Old #38 Stout - North Coast Brewing Co.

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Old #38 StoutOld #38 Stout

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644 Reviews

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Reviews: 644
Hads: 1,178
rAvg: 3.83
pDev: 10.18%
Wants: 47
Gots: 54 | FT: 1
Brewed by:
North Coast Brewing Co. visit their website
California, United States

Style | ABV
Irish Dry Stout |  5.60% ABV

Availability: Year-round

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Beer added by: kbub6f on 10-18-2001

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Photo of feloniousmonk
3.6/5  rDev -6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Color is completely black, with a fine, creamy tan head.

Aroma is largely roasted, espresso notes, nutty, some hints of chocolate.

Very toasty and warm. Palate is smooth, and very, very dry. Finish is brief. Altogether, a solid and tasty, no-frills stout.

Perfect for effortless drinking, and I'd take one over a Guinness any day. (342 characters)

Photo of drabmuh
3.45/5  rDev -9.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Beer is black / dark brown with a few tan bubbles, no lacing, low carbonation.

Aroma is sweet, malty, with a kind of roasty.

Beer is sweet and medium body. Beer has a coffee-ish bitterness at the back but it's weak. The beer overall is weak, it's sweet and roasty and finishes nicely, I doubt I'll ever have it again. (319 characters)

Photo of jwc215
4.42/5  rDev +15.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours pitch black with a one-finger head that slowly descends to a lasting thin cover, then a lasting patch that leaves trailing lace.

The smell is of robust coffee with chocolate notes. Mild roasted smokiness in the background.

The taste is of chocolate and espresso cofee. Dark roasted grains give a slight smoky character. Hints of dark fruitiness. Sweetness well-balanced by toasty bitterness. Suggestions of chocolate-covered fruits in the long, dry, bittersweet finish.

Thins just a tad to pull from expected full body to a higher side of medium. Nice, smooth, creamy texture.

Easy to drink - rich and complex without being overly powerful. Alcohol is well-covered. This is one very nice stout! (712 characters)

Photo of superspak
3.78/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

12 ounce bottle into pint glass, no bottle dating. Pours very dark brown, almost black color; with a 1 finger dense tan head with good retention, that reduces to a small cap that lingers. Light spotty soapy lacing clings down the glass. Aromas of cocoa, chocolate, roasted malt, light char, toast, molasses, raisin, toffee, light coffee, and roasted earthiness. Nice and pleasant aromas with good balance and complexity; decent strength. Taste of cocoa, chocolate, roasted malt, toast, light char, molasses, toffee, light raisin, light coffee, and roasted earthiness. Lingering notes of cocoa, chocolate, roasted malt, toast, molasses, toffee, light raisin, and earthiness on the finish for a short bit. Very nice balance and complexity of roasted flavors with some light fruitiness; with good robustness, and zero cloying flavors present after the finish. Medium carbonation and body; with a lightly creamy, chalky, and fairly crisp mouthfeel that is good. Alcohol is very well hidden with almost zero warming noticed after the finish. Overall this is a very good dry stout style. Good balance and complexity of nicely robust flavors; and very smooth to drink. A nicely enjoyable offering; but I probably got an old bottle judging by the fruitiness and molasses notes. (1,269 characters)

Photo of chinchill
4.1/5  rDev +7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

undated 12 oz bottle served in a Porter Bar goblet.

A: Pours with a well-proportioned, creamy tan head. The liquid pours dark brown and somewhat clear, but is essentially opaque and nearly black in the glass. As the head settles, the glass gets partially coated with sticky lace.

S: The nose features dark roasted grains, of course, but also has a considerable note of spicy hops, as well as hints of toffee and vanilla.

T: Fine dark roasted malt flavor, with no burnt elements. The hops are way less evident in the flavor but a great sweet/bitter balance is obtained. Hints of chocolate, coffee, dark fruits and vanilla, with some hop spiciness coming through.

M: full body, and very creamy, with an excellent level of carbonation. An inevitable warming from the high ABV. [4.25]

O: an exceptional stout; well worth seeking out. [4.25] (844 characters)

Photo of WesWes
4.02/5  rDev +5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

The beer pours a deep black color with a thin off-white head. The aroma is good. It has a nice black malt/ roasted scent that is a bit dry and awfully malty. The taste is good. It has a rich black malt flavor that is dry and dark tasting. It goes down easy and finishes with a black malt aftertaste. The mouthfeel is great. It is a medium/full bodied beer with adequate carbonation. This is a fine stout with great flavor and mouthfeel; an excellent sessions brew. (464 characters)

Photo of GClarkage
3.53/5  rDev -7.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12/09/04- Purchased at Bevmo in San Mateo, CA

Appearance- Nice black pour with a 1/2 inch head and nice lacing left in the inside of my glass.

Smell- Roasted malt and chocolate. Maybe some caramel and toffee. Hops?

Taste- Kind of like a weak bittersweet chocolate. Definite roasted malt and definite bitterness.

Mouthfeel- Very full feeling stout with a medium carbonation level.

Drinkability- Nice stout that I would try again if given the chance. Would really like to try it at the brewery on tap. (514 characters)

Photo of Gueuzedude
3.85/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours with a frothy, three finger thick, brown tainted, tan colored head the leaves a light lacing pattern on the sides of the glass. The beer itself is a almost black color with a brownish tint to it. The aroma smells softly of dark grain and burnt raisins. A light roast grain tartness hangs around towards the end of the aroma along with black coffee aromatics and heavily toasted malt notes. In the middle there is a soft, sweet, dark chocolate note that helps to mellow out the other more roasted notes.

The beer starts out soft and creamy with a mouth coating quality to it, but the carbonation quickly adds a zippy note that tends to balance this out. Finishes with a burnt grain and hop bitterness as well as a black acidity. Sweetish, dark malt notes intermingle with chocolate and a sweetened espresso character never quite balancing out the dominant dry roasted grain notes. This beer strikes a light crispness up front despite the color, yet in the finish has a mouth coating creaminess to it that adds to a perception of heft.

All in all this is a great beer to sit down with over a couple pints. Light and quaffable, yet at the same time chewy and interesting. If I had to perfect this I would add a touch more chocolate and sweet malt notes to balance the roast acidity, but then it would not be nearly so quaffable. (1,337 characters)

Photo of BARFLYB
3.58/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Single bottle poured into a Flying Fish pint glass.

A- Old 38 is a very deep dark brown but not exactly black on a closer look. A nice tan colored cap rose up a faded into little islands of foam on the surface.

S- Big roasted malt and a nice hop scent coming from this. Some creamy milk with some tootsie roll in the background. Chocolate scents coming through.

T- Not expectng much from this I was actually surprised that this had a nice taste to it, with a fairly nice balance as well. Chocolate comes out more with malt giving off more sweetness. Hops really dont make a dent in the taste but are lingering afterwards.

M- Kind of reminds me more of a regular stout than a dry Irish but either way this has a nice full feel with a nice but short aftertaste. This one feels thin and is light in carb.

D- Good enough to get again and it is light in alcohol so this passes the drinkability test for me. I finished my 12oz in no time. For some reason I found this in a dingy liquor store and I don't see this paticular beer carried in a lot of places, i wonder why? (1,070 characters)

Photo of Gavage
3.91/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: pours a black color with a fluffy 3" head that lasts a while.

Smell: roasted malts and some floral bitterness comes from the glass.

Taste: roasted malts, dark chocolates, and some softer espresso notes are the core flavors. The bitterness is a bit stronger than expected.

Mouthfeel: medium bodied. Smooth from start to finish and a hint of dryness late. Aftertaste is long as the roasted tones linger a while in the mouth.

Drinkability: easy to drink stout that is strong on the roasted tones with a bitter profile. A few of these can be had in a session. (573 characters)

Photo of tdm168
3.91/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a deep, dark black with a half of an inch of brown head that has good retention. The nose is roasty with a hint of chocolate and yeast. The taste is roasty, chocolaty, charcoally, burnt, and mildly yeasty. The mouthfeel is medium to full bodied, smooth, and has little carbonation.

This is a smooth drinking, refreshing Irish Dry Stout. Everything about this beer is traditional. I would have this again for sure. (420 characters)

Photo of Halcyondays
4.13/5  rDev +7.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

12 oz. bottle,

A: Dark ruby red/black, with a thick, tan head, which leaves excellent lacing, in a glass. A great looking stout, in my honest opinion.

S: Roasted malts, predominately, with smooth, milk chocolate, dark chocolate, baker's chocolate, coffee, mocha, and a hint of vanilla, it smells really good.

T: Dark, black coffee, with dark chocolate, and a hint of hops in the end, holding it all together.

M: Pretty full-bodied, smooth, and creamy, with a soft, subtle, roasty bitterness, a good Irish-style dry stout.

D: A great beer, easily sessionable, I could drink this all day, a great product from North Coast, kind of like a mini-Old Rasputin in a way. (668 characters)

Photo of Billolick
3.77/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12 ouncer, twist top, no freshness indicator to be found. Pours dark molasas, fairly light for a stout. moderate head/carbonation. Leaves only minimal lacing. Nose is caramel, and coffee. Rich and thick mouthfeel, especially as this one warms up abit. Toffee, expresso, burnt flavors, pleasant and drinkable. Decent, lighter then average stout. Probably needs some more black grains to beef up the roasted flavors and "ooommph" of this one. (440 characters)

Photo of smakawhat
4.02/5  rDev +5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Poured on nitro tap, into a labelled Old #38 Stout shaker pint glass at Matchbox pizza. (I think the head was a little too large but I wont split hairs...)

Classic creamy head, very light tan in appearance. There's some noticeable large soda like bubbles on the side of the glass but not too many, maybe even some cola carbonation strangely. Classic dark walnut brown, and lots of thick lacing of course for nitro.

Very impressive nose, a fruity quality of red berry, cherry, reminds me of Barney Flats, even a hint of sourness that is just playful but not overbearing or disturbing.

Taste matches the nose on the palate nicely. Milk chocolate with a silky classic nitro texture, hinting at some light bodied wetness for a typical Irish Dry. Afterfinish hits with a taste of just light carbon, maybe even some decent coffee.

Overall real solid, and really like this slight fruit angle to this stout. Great stuff! (916 characters)

Photo of DoubleJ
3.99/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Stubby 12 ounce bottle from Tom's Farm, on to the beer:

Opaque appearance with chocolate ruby brown hues on the edges and a short head on top. Breathe in...yummy...chocolate! Bits of brown sugar lava cake poking through. To the taste we go...mellow, sweet, mello, sweet. The carbonation is a bit much upfront. but for the taste, semi-sweet chocolate and hops are the way it's rolling. Coffee is found in the lingering aftertaste. Very pleasant to drink on.

My only complaint is the carbonation level is wound up too high. Model it after the flavor; let it mellow. (566 characters)

Photo of tempest
3.97/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I don't about the style, but this certainly is a tasty beer. I got big milk and dark chocolate flavors along with chocolate grains and an aroma to match. There's a medium body with a balancing bitterness and touch of citrus hops flavor. Overall this is a great dessert beer and I'd love to see a coffee version of this. (319 characters)

Photo of johnnnniee
3.5/5  rDev -8.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Bottle from Londonderry Quick Stop.
Pours a dark brown bordering on black with a huge off white head that takes a few to recede. Aromas of roast and hints of caramel, dried fruit, and chocolate. The flavor follows the aroma quite well. Slightly tart roasted grains with a hint of caramel and chocolate. Meidum bosy with a moderate level of carbonation and a slick almost creamy mouthfeel. Decent stout, I could drink it, but its not one of my favorites. (453 characters)

Photo of lacqueredmouse
4.07/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours a pleasantly dark, but rather fine and light-bodied black-brown, with a silky smooth head of beige film. Lacing is complex and delicious. It's a pretty light-bodied stout, but apart from that it looks great.

Nose is smooth and bittersweet, with pleasant brown roasted characters giving dark chocolate and light coffee hints, along with a velvety vanilla sweetness. At the edges, you can pick up the real roastiness, and even a hint of smoke, but for the most part, it's smooth, approachable and delectable. Very nice.

Taste is a lot lighter, but still tasty, and the lack of body and alcohol means it's pleasantly sessionable. Smooth dark grain characters meld with the light sweetness to again give hints of bittersweet chocolate and burnt toast. Feel is smooth, but very light bodied, meaning you have to keep drinking it to realise... that you're drinking it. That's not so bad.

Very sessionable brew; in the style of those stouts that give you something full flavoured, but something easy to stick with all night. It's a fine achievement, and this is undoubtedly something I'd be happy to drink often. (1,114 characters)

Photo of Zorro
3.2/5  rDev -16.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Pours a clear deep brown beer that can pass light with a good tan head.

Smell is sharp and a little metallic and soapy to the nose. Lots of dark roasted malt aromas with a bit of chocolate and black coffee aromas. There is a mild herbal aroma to this but it isn't that strong.

Taste roasted and smoky from the very start with a bit more sweetness than I would have expected. Not a lot of extra flavor levels here just coffee and chocolate with roasted malt.

Mouthfeel is OK.

An OK stout but I doubt that I would buy this again. This just doesn't stand out from the crowd of other stouts on the market. (613 characters)

Photo of barleywinefiend
3.5/5  rDev -8.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured a dark brown with a nice tan head.
Nose of roasted malt and quite a bit of cocoa. Roasted tones dominate upon tasting. Taste is dry right off, roasted coffee. Mouthfeel is rather than and dry. Ap retty good example of the style nut not one I would seek out again. (270 characters)

Photo of GarthDanielson
4.01/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Bought a six-pack at the local beer store. Poured into a pint glass. The beer pours a jet black, with a thin, tan colored, dense head. The nose is almost completely coffee, with some molasses and malty notes. The beer has inital flavors of bitter coffee, with a sweet undertone of malt based tastes. There was a smooth, round, full feel to the beer in mouth, and the flavors blend into a decent, light crisp finish. It's more dry than a cream or milk stout, but not as dry as an oatmeal of most dry stouts. The aftertaste is all coffee, but actually without the bitter. The easy aftertaste makes this beer easy to drink all night long. (635 characters)

Photo of rhoadsrage
4.22/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

(Served in a nonic)

A- This beer pours an obsidian black dense body with a tan head that fades to a thin film and a racing carbonation pops up the side of the glass.

S- The earthy dark malt aroma as full notes of black roasted malt and grain with some dark dried fruit hints and some molasses and graham notes coming through in the finish.

T- The dry roasted black malt is earthy with some chocolate malt flavor underneath. There is a chalky flavor to the grain with a slight tartness in the finish and a green hop hint that starts to come through in the finish with a touch of bitterness.

M- The medium-light mouthfeel has a gentle fizz in the finish that enhances the hop note in the finish.

O- This is a wonderful stout that has great full roasted malt but is not bitter or too sweet. Very sessionable. (814 characters)

Photo of jdhilt
3.45/5  rDev -9.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Pours with a two-finger light brown head that fades slowly and leaves a good lace. Virtually black color. Good carbonation. Nose is coffee. Strong coffee flavor, good stout but finishes with a hard water taste. $1.90 for a 12oz bottle from Vintage Cellar Blacksburg, VA (269 characters)

Photo of Wasatch
3.85/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a dark brown/black color, nice carbonation, not much of a head though and quickly disappears, a few nice island appear. Scents of malts, slight hops, coffee, and caramel. The taste is of roasted sweet malts, and a nice caramel dry finish. Medium body. A pretty tasty brew from North Coast, would recommend. Thanks jhammerly. (330 characters)

Photo of liamt07
4.05/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle from Long813 ages ago, 12oz bottle into a pint glass. Can't believe I haven't opened this yet. Thanks again Martin.

Pours a near black, finger of light khaki head fading to a real thin layer and a bit of a collar. Some dark ruby red around the edges when held to the light. Minimal lace. Loads of malted barley and milk chocolate in the nose. Maybe some molasses and licorice here too. Nice and sweet smelling. Tastes mostly of chocolate with a bit of coffee, smooth and a bit watery. Mouthfeel is smooth with only a small amount of carbonation, but this goes down quick. A nice drinker and a nice dry stout overall. (624 characters)

Old #38 Stout from North Coast Brewing Co.
86 out of 100 based on 644 ratings.