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Old #38 Stout - North Coast Brewing Co.

Old #38 StoutOld #38 Stout

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994 Ratings

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Ratings: 994
Reviews: 624
rAvg: 3.83
pDev: 11.23%

Brewed by:
North Coast Brewing Co. visit their website
California, United States

Style | ABV
Irish Dry Stout |  5.60% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
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Photo of riversider76

New York

3.23/5  rDev -15.7%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Pours a nice rich brown with a tan head. Smell was roasted,but sour. I was not crazy about the smell. Mouth feel is watery,with little carbionation, Taste was fairly light and roasted,with a slight hop kick. This beer looks much better than it tastes. It tastes better than it smells.

Serving type: bottle

12-23-2005 00:49:08 | More by riversider76
Photo of Zorro


3.23/5  rDev -15.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Pours a clear deep brown beer that can pass light with a good tan head.

Smell is sharp and a little metallic and soapy to the nose. Lots of dark roasted malt aromas with a bit of chocolate and black coffee aromas. There is a mild herbal aroma to this but it isn't that strong.

Taste roasted and smoky from the very start with a bit more sweetness than I would have expected. Not a lot of extra flavor levels here just coffee and chocolate with roasted malt.

Mouthfeel is OK.

An OK stout but I doubt that I would buy this again. This just doesn't stand out from the crowd of other stouts on the market.

Serving type: bottle

02-19-2006 23:27:31 | More by Zorro
Photo of nsmartell


3.23/5  rDev -15.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

I enjoyed this beer from the comfort of my own living room. From the 12oz bottle to a standard pint glass.

Appearance: Pours a dark brown color with a fluffy off-white head that didn't stick around for too long.

Smell: Roasted malts and a hint of coffee.

Taste: Just as the smell suggests, tastes of roasted malts and coffee.

Mouthfeel: Medium-bodied and smooth.

Drinkability: Would try again, but won't be seeking out anytime soon.

Serving type: bottle

02-22-2009 13:00:41 | More by nsmartell
Photo of phantomwyse


3.25/5  rDev -15.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: Medium roasted black coffee, more brown than black. Tannish 1-finger head, i expected more from a stout.

S: Understated chocolate notes, weak milky coffee, some roasted sweetness.

T: Roasted coffee, milk chocolate, slight woodsmokey.

M: Silky dry.

D: Drinkable, yes, but there are much better representations of the style out there.

Serving type: bottle

09-26-2008 02:49:10 | More by phantomwyse
Photo of Overlord


3.25/5  rDev -15.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Pours dark, but with an almost ruddy, translucent brown look to it. Not quite "stout-ish." Big light tan head.

Smells ... hmmm...charred, and almost ... sour? Taste is, again, weirdly sour. If I didn't know better, I'd say this was an oatmeal stout (I only know better cuz' I looked up the style). Sour, charred malt, not much balancing sweetness, a bit wearying, even in a 12 oz. bottle. Not too much aroma or flavor to it.

Not my cup of tea, and too thin.

Serving type: bottle

08-15-2009 07:25:20 | More by Overlord
Photo of harrymel


3.25/5  rDev -15.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottled unk

A: dark, single finger of toasted cream falls to a sheet of the same. Spot lace.
S: dry, leather, coffee, oats, soil.
T: follows the nose well.
M: full and hi carb. Dry finish
O: pretty good. Likely would prefer on nitro or even with a shot of espresso in it.

Serving type: bottle

11-30-2011 08:38:00 | More by harrymel
Photo of The_Kings_Quart


3.25/5  rDev -15.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A: Nice dark mocha pour with about a finger's worth of creamy head that fades to a thin skim along the top.

S: Very delicate chocolate and spice. Little bit of coffee and a less than pleasant hit of yeast now and then. Gives it an almost metallic smell at times.

T: Nicer than what the smell left me with. Much milder compared to others of its kind, but there's a very faint tartness that's a nice touch. More coffee to the finish, which is a bit oily, but still clean enough.

MF: Airy and a little too susceptible to foaming in the mouth. Mild carbonation. Nothing particularly thrilling here.

O: Had two bottles of this because the first tasted like liquid tinfoil. Second bottle was good, but this is still much better on tap as far as I'm concerned. Nevertheless, a decent brew, and worth trying.

Serving type: bottle

10-03-2012 04:24:36 | More by The_Kings_Quart
Photo of ByTor2112

North Carolina

3.28/5  rDev -14.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

I first tried this way back in the day when nobody on the East Coast knew of this stuff. Thanks to HimerMan for sending this to me as an extra with a trade.
Poured very dark, a hint of garnet when the light passed through it on the side of the glass. Nice espresso colored head that left no lacing.
Dark roasted malt aroma, a little coffe is there also.
Initial taste is dark malt and a burnt tatse, not bad. The hops give a good balance with decent bitterness that combines well with the dark malts. The hops get really earthy as this stout warms up.
Good no-nonsense stout.

Serving type: bottle

10-26-2006 17:06:26 | More by ByTor2112
Photo of danielharper


3.3/5  rDev -13.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Purchased from Great Spirits, Huntsville, AL.

A: Dark black, thick brown head that dissipates slowly.

S: Roasted malty aroma, no hops.

T: Very sweet up-front, with some notes of coffee and a very dry finish.

M: Moderate, not watery but not overly thick. Refreshing. About as expected.

D: Overall about average for a dry stout. Not the greatest beer in the world, but fans of the style should like it.

Serving type: bottle

12-07-2006 23:46:57 | More by danielharper
Photo of botham


3.3/5  rDev -13.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

12 oz bottle poured into a nonic pint. pours deep brown with garnet highlights and a sizable light brown head that remains for a couple minutes, leaving moderate lacings.

aroma is roasted, with a marshmallowy sweet character, and a side note of caramel and dark fruit. odd mix for an irish dry.

taste is roasted, with the same dark fruit base and notes of caramel, coffee, and a lightly burnt quality. not bad.

mouthfeel is medium bodied with a thin texture and a smooth finish of residual chocolate and caramel, with a bit of dark fruit.

drinkablility is good. this is a decent irish dry, though there is much better out there.

Serving type: bottle

04-23-2008 01:37:38 | More by botham
Photo of adamette


3.3/5  rDev -13.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Live review. Poured from a 12 oz bottle purchased as a single for $1.89 from Cost Plus World Market in Mentor, Ohio yesterday into my Sierra Nevada Anniversary Ale pint glass.

A Almost completely black body (holding it up to direct light reveals a deep, dark mahogany color, maybe 5% light comes through) under a medium brown, creamy looking head.

S Dark Roast malt, maybe with a touch of chocolate. Inviting, interesting.

T Dark malt, not a strong taste. A rather basic Stout taste to me. Gone is the chocolate notes that I thought I smelled.

M Smooth but not as creamy as the look had suggested.

D Fine for a Stout which are not particularly drinkable normally.

Notes: When you consider that you could simply get Old Rasputin (same brewery of course, a superior, masterful beer) then this is certainly second tier from North Coast. That being said, this is a fine Stout.

Serving type: bottle

07-31-2009 04:17:41 | More by adamette
Photo of Popkas


3.3/5  rDev -13.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

A: Pour is a dark brown (almost black with red hues). Minimal head quickly recedes leaving a touch of lacing from what head there was.

S: Hmm. Bittersweet and smell of dark fruit.

T: Flat malts upfront and then a bitter coffee like ending.

M: Fiz fills the mouth - a bit distracting.

D: Drinkability is average at best.

Serving type: bottle

02-07-2010 00:52:27 | More by Popkas
Photo of ChainGangGuy


3.33/5  rDev -13.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Appearance: Pours a distinctly brown color, with a mediocre tan head that quickly subsided while my head was turned for a few moments to watch a Seinfeld episode.

Smell: Black malts and bittersweet chocolate lead with some toffee and floral hop notes lingering in the background. There's a slight sourness here.

Taste: An unmistakable roasted malt taste from beginning to end. A brief suggestion of chocolate, but its mostly just a coffee-like flavor throughout. Again, slightly sour.

Mouthfeel/Drinkability: Short, simple, and to the point. Not unlike this review itself. A rather thin body - thankfully the carbonation remains somewhat low. A very "easy" stout. Let me just finish with a joke. What do you get when you cross a baked potato with a


Serving type: bottle

12-12-2005 04:07:17 | More by ChainGangGuy
Photo of illidurit


3.33/5  rDev -13.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Dark walnut brown, nearly black. Creamy tan head, okay lacing, decent retention. Cocoa, graham, and light roasty aromas. Flavor is very roasted, with coffee notes and a slightly charred bitterness. Semisweet chocolate provides a touch of sweetness. Mouthfeel is decent, but the carbonation is too high. This style would be better suited to a light carbonation to enhance a creamy body. Nonetheless, this is miles tastier than the standard Irish stout fare like Guinness and Murphy's.

Serving type: bottle

11-19-2008 08:34:12 | More by illidurit
Photo of webbcreative


3.33/5  rDev -13.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Jan 25, 2009
black. little head to speak of. smells of a bit of coffee. flavors are kind of everywhere, not to well balanced to my pallet. Dry obviously, but also roasted malts, and bitter finish, i like all the flavors individually, but together, they just arent working properly in this one....not a drain pour, just not something i will be having again....

Serving type: bottle

02-27-2009 02:47:22 | More by webbcreative
Photo of Duhast500

Rhode Island

3.33/5  rDev -13.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a 12oz. bottle into a pint glass

The color is a dark black with a deep maroon color when held to the light. Some slight head but no lacing.

The smell is light but has a malty flavor that has a pin of brown sugar and a little chocolate flavor as well.

The taste is some dark chocolate and a little roasted malt. Is a nice even flavor but not too strong.

It seems to be missing a little something but that may be me getting used to Imperial Stouts, otherwise this beer is a nice beer experience. It has a nice even medium body and feels great going down. It dies have a slight aftertaste but only the briefest.

Serving type: bottle

12-04-2009 04:49:25 | More by Duhast500
Photo of BeerAngel


3.35/5  rDev -12.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Pours a very dark brown color (nearly black) and has a thick medium tan head. The smell of roasted mocha coffee and malts get the mouth watering. First taste of each swallow reveals an odd twang, but then fades to a more pleasant chocolate and roasted malt flavor. It has a rather thin mouthfeel and light clean finish for a stout. It could stand a little tweaking to get rid of the strange twang, but maybe it’s on purpose. Not bad, and I can struggle through the trenches to get through the twang ;-) since I have a few more of these. Cheers!

Serving type: bottle

11-04-2002 18:18:17 | More by BeerAngel
Photo of mjohn27603


3.35/5  rDev -12.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Poured with a 2 inch head. Deep brown in color. Taste is very much of coffee not too bitter. The mouthfeel is a bit disappointing, being a bit on the watery side. Sweet taste. Nothing outstanding or objectionable.Slight bitter aftertaste starts to settle in after a while. This one doesn't really stand in North Coast's lineup.

Serving type: bottle

03-07-2003 18:44:13 | More by mjohn27603
Photo of HardTarget


3.35/5  rDev -12.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Aroma: Nice chocolate and roasted malts with a hint of licorice.
Appearance: Very black with brown edges in front of a good light. Thin tan head of less than half a finger, but I was a little too gentle on the pour. It left a sheet of solid lace that ended up in a classic lace pattern.
Flavor: Wow, quite a kick. No hops in the aroma, but they pop right out in the taste with a slightly harsh bitter. It’s lighter in alcohol, but comparable to Old Rasputin in taste (oh yeah, North Coast makes that as well). After I got used to the hops, some of the roasted character started coming through.
Mouthfeel: It has a medium body with a slight mouth coat with a hop pucker at the end.
Overall Impression: A bit toward the bitter side of the equation for a stout, but a rich and complex taste. Much like Old Rasputin over all, and while I’m a big fan of Old Rasp, the toned down version just didn’t click with me. Worth a try, and a happy karma point, but don’t think I’ll be getting another soon.

Serving type: bottle

04-11-2004 23:58:45 | More by HardTarget
Photo of HalfFull


3.35/5  rDev -12.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Poured into a pint glass from a 12 oz. bottle. Pours a solid and dense black in color with half an inch of mocha foam. Clear and dark mahogany in the light and offering decent retention initially, glassing off a bit by mid pint.

Nice roasted malt nose with a fair amount of chocolate and some roasted coffee bean notes. Smell reminds me of some bigger stouts. Lighter in flavor than the nose and pour might suggest and offers a bit of dark fruit with a somewhat thin body. Some texture returns on the finish then the dry roasted character returns and lingers moderately along with some chocolatey spice. Quite dry overall with a bit too much of overly roasted coffee underpinning the taste and feel for me though decent nonetheless.

Serving type: bottle

05-13-2010 05:00:11 | More by HalfFull
Photo of facundoCNB

New Jersey

3.35/5  rDev -12.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A - poured a thick dark black with a nice amount of dark tan head, leaving behind lots of lacing.

S - malty, slightly boozy/sugary (almost a hint of rum), hints of fruit

T - very light in taste surprisingly. bitter hops, sweet malts.. very well balanced

M - very crisp stout (just looked at the description and it's a dry stout so that makes sense). nicely carbonated

O - not a bad stout, my 2nd review for an irish dry stout, and it's not as good as black sun, but it's still pretty awesome in its own way.

Serving type: bottle

02-15-2012 16:00:57 | More by facundoCNB
Photo of brewmudgeon


3.38/5  rDev -11.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

4 A decent lacework, ring of light (for a stout) foam. some amber highlights amid the coffee darkness
4.5 S chocolatey, deep, rich, red wine, brownies
3.5 T what i think of as "classical" stout flavors, but more muted than the aromas
2 M plenty carbonated, but too thin given the aromas and flavors. swishing about the mouth doesn't help much. could benefit from the addition of oats? this is one of the rare beers where for me appearance and mouthfeel are not well correlated.
2.5 D due to the watery texture that for me proved a poor match to the other characteristics, i will not be buying regularly.

Serving type: bottle

09-07-2008 15:14:45 | More by brewmudgeon
Photo of popery


3.38/5  rDev -11.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

An ok stout without much body and somewhat lacking in the taste department. This beer is dark but rather transparent for a stout. The smell is mostly roasted malt, chocolatey malt. There is even an interesting hop character in the background. The taste is similar but the feel is so light that it kind of washes out the beer's potential. I guess it's fairly drinkable, but it wouldn't be my choice for a stout. It's not bad, and if you like light stouts, it's probably a good choice. It's just not my thing.

Serving type: on-tap

10-22-2008 00:26:08 | More by popery
Photo of yoko


3.4/5  rDev -11.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

The pour was dark with a garnet hue - clear - thin. The head rushed to a good 2 fingers with a soap suds top. In just a few minutes the head was gone and the suds remained. The nose was of roasted malts and barley mirroring a mellow roasted grain coffee with an ever slight chocolate. Somehing came up and tickled my nose - must have been hops. The mouth was thin, high toned, and short. It was semi-crisp, smooth, with a slight hop underlying and mingling with the malt. Underneath it all was nothing. It was as if only the top third was palpable. The finish was thin, slightly dry and very short. Guess I expected more. I've so enjoyed North Coast brews especially the Old Rasputin.

Serving type: bottle

03-04-2005 23:03:50 | More by yoko
Photo of mltobin


3.4/5  rDev -11.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

12 ounce bottle purchased in Fairfield County, Connecticut.

Appearance is black tone with a thin one finger head.
Smell is strong, like black licorice.
Taste is thick and slightly sweet.
Mouthfeel is alright, but makes you thirsty and leaves you wanting to drink some water.
Drinkability is average, I much prefer some other irish stout options out there.

Serving type: bottle

07-25-2008 01:37:32 | More by mltobin
Old #38 Stout from North Coast Brewing Co.
86 out of 100 based on 994 ratings.