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Péché Mortel (Imperial Stout Au Cafe) - Brasserie Dieu Du Ciel

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3,960 Ratings
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Ratings: 3,960
Reviews: 1,640
rAvg: 4.4
pDev: 8.86%
Wants: 523
Gots: 597 | FT: 59
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Quebec, Canada

Style | ABV
American Double / Imperial Stout |  9.50% ABV

Availability: Rotating

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(Beer added by: Popsinc on 06-09-2003)
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Photo of BradLikesBrew
4.47/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Huge thanks to Paul Springs (best bestman ever) for bringing this gem to my wedding. Reviewed from notes from my mindbogglingly awesome beer infused pre-wedding party on 10/10/08.

a :Pitch black body, not light making its way through this one.

s: Super roasted malt, chocolate and coffee.

t: "That's deep" Intensely bitter coffee and dark chocolate. A rich, deep, and complex stout.

m: Thick and creamy.

d: One of the best coffee beers ever made. Wow.
These guys know what they're doing. My second hugely hyped beer of the evening and this too exceeded expectations.

BradLikesBrew, Oct 24, 2010
Photo of mrnobody
4.15/5  rDev -5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

12oz. bottle poured into an oversized tulip. Pours pitch black with 3 fingers of thick root beer style head which recedes to a ring of foam with some sticky lacing. Smells of coffee, chocolate, caramel and smoke. Smells bitter (if that's possible) and roasty. The taste is strong coffee, licorice, alcohol. The mouthfeel is perfect for an imperial stout, thick and chewy but not too heavy; the carbonation does not get in the way. Except for the hotness, I'd say the drinkability of this is fairly high; I'm betting a little age will make this a monster!

As an aside, this is a very good beer from the bottle. On tap at the brewpub, this is probably the most delicious beer I've ever tasted. If age improves these bottles, I will try to remember to re-rate.

mrnobody, Oct 24, 2010
Photo of Naugros
4.38/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Not as much of a head as I had hoped for, but the streaks of lace left behind by the ring of foam does have some staying power, but the glass is eventually left clean. The color is the proverbial used motor oil, super dark brown.

As expected, the nose is mostly chocolaty, bitter coffee. As an added bonus it smells as if someone threw in a shot of Grand Marnier. The sweetness of the coffee smell comes across as some molasses. I hope it tastes as nice as it smells.

The taste is very similar to the smell except that the molasses abates, leaving a clean finish which is a great end to wonderfully silky smooth body. Even warmed up the bitterness is pretty strong, but that's a good thing here. The alcohol is almost undetectable...only shows as a slight burn at the back of the tongue... which makes this dangerous. It's delicious and I could drink one after the other, but I know I'd pay for it in the morning.

Naugros, Oct 23, 2010
Photo of ATPete
3.68/5  rDev -16.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

11.5 oz bottle

Id say this one has about a year on it or so. Pours a deep ruby brown color, near black. A large brown head creates lots of stickiness as it slowly dissipates. Burnt dark malts, bitter chocolate and roasted coffee beans, a slight vanilla note, grape jam? Prunes or figs maybe, a rich fruit note for sure is beginning to develop. Nice texture, good weight to it also. Mild in sweetness, the base flavors seem to be clashing a little bit, a bitterness at the end sticks around for a while followed a drying wave of alcohol, not too intense. A nice coffee stout for sure, but it doesnt even begin to compare to some of the other heavy hitters in the style. Would definitely drink again, id like to try a fresh bottle.

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ATPete, Oct 19, 2010
Photo of CaptainIPA
3.88/5  rDev -11.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours motor oil black with a one-finger head that drops to a tan-colored rimming of foam. Dominant aromas of bourbon, dark chocolate and roasted coffee.

Strong bitter opening with bites of semi-sweet baker's chocolate mid-palette. Suggestions of bourbon surface, followed by some 9.5% ABV heat. Intense waves of espresso rise to the forefront, before fading into extreme bitterness on the finish.

Mouthfeel is thick and slick with understated effervescence. This Imperial is brewed for slow sippin' and the reflection that comes with it. And here's what I reflected upon: Damn good, yet not quite in the league of Central Water's Brewhouse Coffee Stout. Here, the coffee presence seems to reside behind an oppressive wall of hop and chocolate bitterness.

Then again, not giving it a second try would be considered a Mortal Sin. Would it not?

CaptainIPA, Oct 19, 2010
Photo of case4816
4.43/5  rDev +0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A- Very dark brown to black in colour. Completely opaque. Poured Vigorously and no head; then a big foamy dark brown head came out of no where. Sunk down to a light lacing fairly quickly.

S- Strong coffee smell at the tip; like a very high quality Arabica coffee. Lots of dark chocolate smell also comes to the nose with a wonderful smoothness. A small hint of Vanilla is also detectable with the chocolate.

T- The coffee flavour is very strong with his one (geeky I know). It's like a coffee punch to the mouth. Very falvourful coffee which blends in perfectly with the light flavour of the malts. The chocolate flavour also molds into the coffee beautifully along with the light vanilla hints. Also very bitter from some hops that are detectable at the end of this very complex beer.

D- Very wonderful stout. All the complexities in this are very well paired, and the beer goes down very smooth. Not an everyday beer, but a beer that has to be had and every once and a while for sure.

case4816, Oct 18, 2010
Photo of Klgkenny
4.38/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Poured from a chilled bottle into (unfortunately) a red plastic cup. (I am moving and have no glassware) A great creamy, coffee colored head sits atop this black, black beer. I am shining my 10,000 lumen flashlight into this beer, but no light penetrates.

The smell is so strong. Roasty malts layered over coffee with a faint undertone of alcohol.

Tastes like bitter roasts and broken coffee beans... In a good way. As you would expect, when the beer warms, the alcohol becomes more prevalent. A very "wow" taste smacks you in the face.

Thick, creamy mouthfeel. Like full cream milk, but delicious, dark beer instead.

This beer should be enjoyed on a chilly, winter afternoon as the sun drops below the treeline. If not for the almost 10% abv, this would rate higher.

Very enjoyable.

Klgkenny, Oct 17, 2010
Photo of JohnnyBarman
4.63/5  rDev +5.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Been looking forward to this for a long time...

Bottle picked up from the LCBO, bottled in August 2010.

Poured into a Duvel goblet. Nearly pitch black, with a half inch of tan, frothy head. Leaves lovely swirls and island patches on the surface, a thick ring that retains well, and a few patches of lacing. Looks terrific.

The nose is rich in roasted espresso beans, toasted malts, cream, marshmallow, a touch of alcohol (bourbon and sherry) and mild hoppage as well.

The taste is a tremendous burst of espresso flavor, which attacks the tongue with vigor. As the brew warms a touch (and after the tastebuds acclimatize to all the espresso goodness), I'm also picking up some subtle notes of caramel, dark fruit, and just a touch of bourbon. The finish is surprisingly dry, boasting peppery hops and coffee bitterness. Although I can certainly detect the alcohol, it is warming and flavorful. Long, bitter finish.

Chewy, velvety, and with a fine, creamy carbonation, this brew is going down trememdously well.

Once again, Montreal proves to be among the finest brewing cities. A fantastic brew, certainly well worthy of the hype (and the wait). One of the finest uses of coffee/espresso I've seen in a stout. Seriously, I'm almost getting a coffee buzz here, despite nearly being at 10% alcohol! About two bottles of this would be about all I can handle in an evening, but nevertheless, the drinkability for such a thick, hearty, high ABV stout is still high for me. I will most definitely be back for a few more for cellaring and extensive sampling on my part.

JohnnyBarman, Oct 16, 2010
Photo of heebes
4.13/5  rDev -6.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Part of thr LCBO fall seasonal releases.
341 ml, bottled 09/10

Pours a thick black with a foamy tan head which holds for a long while. Great retention and sticky lacing.
The nose is of roasted malts, molasses, strong coffee and dark chocolate. Getting a warm alcohol smell there too.
Big malt taste which is a heavy and chewy feel on the palette. Dank/resiny, warm sensation initially then a long finish with a bitter hop taste.
Overall this is one of the thickest heaviest stouts I've tried. Bold flavour which would seem to age well to tame some of the alcohol taste. 9.5% puts this as a sipper and a stand alone brew.

heebes, Oct 15, 2010
Photo of Soonami
4.33/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Peche Mortel (Mortal Sin) is a tremendously good coffee-flavored Imperial Stout. It has a great aroma, with coffee, roasted malt and caramel. The beer taste better than it smells, with a dark roasted coffee acidity and sharpness, bittersweet chocolate, molasses, burnt raisin and earthy hops. It was delicious.

Soonami, Oct 15, 2010
Photo of lovetranquillity
5/5  rDev +13.6%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Color of dark roasted coffee 1 cm of brown head, lacing sticking to the sides. Looks very inviting and looks like it tastes good even before trying it.

Smells like espresso with cream,dark chocolate and raw cacao nibs.

Tastes like espresso, dark chocolate , notes of cacao, some alcohol burn, roasty and warm.

Somewhat thick in the mouth, light carbonations, little bit sticky. Has alot of mouth feel.

Fantastic Imperial Stout. I could have one of these everyday if I could afford the 6 dollar per 12 ounce bottle. It is pricy but totally worth it, I just wish I had more than the one I just drank.

lovetranquillity, Oct 13, 2010
Photo of hophead247
4.78/5  rDev +8.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Black body with dark brown chalky hues at the edges. A dark tan head that is both creamy and loose seals in all that coffee goodness. Nose is roasty and full of espresso notes. Flavors of dry dark chocolate, rich oily espresso, some hazelnut and lots of chewy thick malts. The bitter coffee flavors are really strong and welcoming and the sugars seem to dry up at the end of each sip. The best coffee/espresso flavored beer I have had to this day.

hophead247, Oct 12, 2010
Photo of pmlondrigan
4.13/5  rDev -6.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours jet black with a lovely coffee colored head which fades to a thing ring around my Allagash chalice. Some fine belgian lacing is left by the head. Aroma is coffee up front, chocolate, licorice and heavy dark roasted malts. Slightly one demensional aroma. Off the bat I get dark chocolate and deep roasted malts, some hop presence, in the middle a great cappuccino flavor comes through and the beer finishes with a slightly bitter note that lingers in the back of your palate. Slick mouthfeel, a bit "oily" perhaps put style appropriate.

pmlondrigan, Oct 12, 2010
Photo of MeMyselfNAles7
4.93/5  rDev +12%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

This is a premier example of the style cause it is a straight double RIS but it drinks like a single. Looking foward on getting my hands on more brews from this brewery.

Let it out on a snifter and it pour a dark black brew with a brown creamy crown. Awesome on the nose with aromas of dark roasted coffe, roasted malts and dark cocoa beans. An exact mirror copy on the palate. Firts off is the not overpowering dark coffe followed by the bitter roasted malts and finishig it off with the dark cocoa beans that gives it a perfect finish, with a nice chocolately aftertaste that lingers on smoothly. Great drinkability, very refreshing. Taste even better a little bit warmer.

MeMyselfNAles7, Oct 11, 2010
Photo of TheSevenDuffs
4.4/5  rDev 0%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Bottled on date of September 28, 2010
Poured in to Duvel tulip.

A - Dark black with a finger of foamy light brown head.

S - Bitter dark roasted coffee smacks you in the face up front with a nice but subtle sweetness in the background. There is a robust roasted malt nose but the coffee dominates with some subdued dark fruit and licorice and a hint of alcohol in the background.

T - Dark roasted malts, bitter dark roasted coffee, some licorice. This beer was very fresh and was a touch hot. I have had this 3 or 4 times and never experienced this.

M - Medium body, sikly, lightly carbonated, chewy.

D - A remarkable beer. A touch hot because of how fresh it was.

TheSevenDuffs, Oct 10, 2010
Photo of Kinsman
3.23/5  rDev -26.6%
look: 2 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

This beer poured absolutely pitch black with no chance of light permeating through. However, even with a relatively aggressive pour, it turned up almost no head. There was a brief appearance of a dark tan head, less than a centimeter thick, but quickly faded away, leaving a thin ring around the beer but no foam or lace.

Aroma was weak at first, but as it warmed the notes of espresso started to come out. There was a notable roasted character, but I really had to get close to find it. Not nearly as strong as I would have expected.

Coffee is obviously the dominant flavor, but its not over done. While this may be the coffee-est beer I've ever had, there is still room for flavors to come from the roasted barley. Overall, it's quite an enjoyable flavor, except for a not-so-pleasant bitterness in the finish. Its the kind of bitterness you get from burnt coffee, not just a dark roast, but a truly burnt cup of coffee.

Mouthfeel was smooth but rather thin with almost no sense of carbonation. I often find stouts to not have a lively carbonated feel, but this felt almost completely flat.

Drinkability was probably the highlight of this beer. Even though it looked and felt almost flat, the flavor was tasty enough that I could still drink it.

Kinsman, Oct 10, 2010
Photo of devilben02
3.75/5  rDev -14.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from the bottle with a deep, luxurious chocolate brown under a billowy beige head of densely-packed micro bubbles. The aroma is fairly light and clean, with notes of bittersweet chocolate, a dark roasted malt sweetness, a bit of a mineral quality, and only a faint hint of coffee. The flavor is much more aggressive, but it still doesn't scream coffee for me. The flavor is more of a standard imperial stout, with characteristics of charred malts, bitter chocolate, maybe a bit of black licorice. The coffee is certainly there, but it comes out subtly at first before becoming more prominent in the achingly bitter finish. The texture is smooth but resinous, and although not tremendously boozy, it is easy to tell that this beer is potent.

devilben02, Oct 08, 2010
Photo of Icehouse57
4.25/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottle, warmed for 10 mins from the fridge.

A- Dense, black, and thick looking pour. Much like a thick coffee, except for the nice brown head sitting atop the beer. Got about 3/8 inch of head, which isn't bad for a 9.5 beer.

S- Coffee.... and roasted barley. Slightly smoky. A tickle of bitter hops... can't make out the type... but they're masked by the roastiness.

T- Delicious. Coffee. Roasted barley. A hint of malt sweetness in an attempt to wrap some caramel into the mix. VERY NICE. Did I mention coffee?

M- About what you'd expect from a 9.5 beer. It isn't dry. It leaves some of the flavor on the tongue.

D- I always end up rating these high gravity beers lower on drinkability. Just because I don't really feel you can say this is a ultra-drinkable beer. Not because it isn't delicious, just because of the assault on the taste buds. They get tired after one or two of these.

Very nice beer overall. Not my favorite Imperial Stout, but very very good.

Icehouse57, Oct 07, 2010
Photo of liamt07
4.45/5  rDev +1.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

Bottle from the LCBO, part of the Fall beer release. 341ml into a snifter, picked up a couple of these, gonna put some age on another bottle or two and see how those turn out down the line. On with the review.

Pours a perfect pitch black, couple fingers of tan/mocha head. Fantastic retention, and excellent lace. Nose is the epitome of roastiness, dark chocolate and espresso. Huge coffee notes, and I'm sensing a bit of the alkeehawl in the background. Taste follows to a degree, blast of the rich roastiness is the initial impression. More espresso than you can imagine here, the coffee is almost overpowering; I almost get a sense of some cream or milkiness, can't tell if I'm fabricating this because of the mouthfeel or if this flavour is actually present. Regardless, alcohol isn't hidden by any stretch, well known as this hits the back of my throat. Definite creaminess and fullness in the mouth, slick as can be and just coats every part of my mouth, but finishes dry and bitter (coffee bitterness). Thick, fat and sludgy perfection. Drinkability takes a bit of a hit, chances are I couldn't sit down for more than a couple of these but that more a function of the ABV than the beer itself. Exceptional stuff.

liamt07, Oct 07, 2010
Photo of Mit
3.8/5  rDev -13.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Not usually a stout drinker(used to be) but this is a highly rated Canadian Imp Stout so when I saw it in the LCBO I had to pick it up.

a-Dark like a black hole. Sitting in the glass it looks like a pint glass full of strong cofee.

s-alcohol burn followed by dark malty smells.

t-coffee followed by an intense warming sensation. Can def taste the strength of this beer. Roasted malt and coffee dominate this beer.

m-thick, def in keeping with the higher ABV. Not as thick as I would have imagined it.

d-drinkable but I found the coffee and alcohol flavours started to overpower things. I may have enjoyed this more had it been substantially colder out.

Mit, Oct 06, 2010
Photo of FreshHawk
4.15/5  rDev -5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A - Pitch black with deep mahogany hues. A little above average sized, frothy, sticky, sandy colored head. Good retention leaving behind a very nice layer of lace.

S - Heavy coffee aroma with a sweeter coffee aroma starting off which then gives way to a rich black espresso aroma. Some tart dark fruit/anise aroma also comes out in the end. A bit of roasted/burnt bitter aroma along with hints of chocolate. That said, coffee dominates the nose.

T - Similar to the nose with coffee overpowering the other flavors. Rich, dark espresso and and sweeter, creamy coffee flavors mix and fade in and out with each other. Some roasted malt flavors come out along with just a hint of bittersweet chocolate. Some slightly tart anise flavor is present in the background toward the finish of the sip. Also has a bit of an earthy bitterness as well.

M - Fuller side of medium body with a healthy amount of carbonation. Very smooth, silky and creamy. Nice body and feel.

D - Pretty drinkable, although the coffee does get to be a little much. Alcohol is very well hidden and it doesn't get too bitter or sweet.

Notes: Definitely a coffee forward beer. Sometimes the coffee flavors are sweeter and other times they are more roasted and bitter. Overall I liked it but didn't love it, and it just seemed a little out of balance. I would definitely have it again, but with the price I don't know when I would buy it again. Definitely worth trying, especially if you love coffee.

FreshHawk, Oct 05, 2010
Photo of ChrisCage
3.98/5  rDev -9.5%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 2

A- This is about as dark brown/black a beer as one will find, and that includes Guinness etc....I can't see one speck of light through my glass. The head is tan colored and retains what seems like forever, starting out as a frothy half inch layer, with really fine bubbles, and settling to a thick, dense layer over the brew, which includes puffy clouds of clumpy foam. The lacing is perfect, clinging without even trying in all sorts of fine strings. Very nice looking indeed!

S- Well, I'm not a coffee drinker, but I do love the smell of fresh beans, which this brew has lots of....with a slight hint of vanilla extract mixed in, softening the aroma somewhat. In the background, there are notes of fresh unsweetened chocolate as well as the burnt chocolate malt to sweeten it up somewhat. The finish is actually somewhat meaty/smoky in character rather than a hop bitterness.

T- Wow, this in an intensely flavored beer. Imagine everything I mentioned in the aroma and multiply it by 10! The coffee comes through immediately and is quite dominant, but is smoother than the aroma lets on. The fresh cocoa is sweetened up just slightly with cream and has some very dark raisined fruits....very rich indeed. The finish lingers on with resins of bitter coffee grounds, Espresso and/or an Americano on the palate. Very intense, and very unique!

M- This is full bodied and is very similar to a thick, reduced version of an strong espresso. The carbonation is creamy and the bubbles are fine. Truly reminds me of a strong coffee, as the alcohol is well hidden....there is no way that the 9.5% alc/vol is noticeable...just a very silky smooth brew!

D- This intensely flavored, coffee infused beer is very good, and I recommend having this as a sipping brew rather than something that you drink in large swallows. It really needs a strong cheese to go with it and I think it would be at it's prime with some food. On it's own....very good but I'm done after 1 bottle as it's a very powerful brew. I now know why this beer is rated as the best Canada has to offer....it's superb!

ChrisCage, Oct 03, 2010
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4.88/5  rDev +10.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Vintage 2008 poured into a 4oz tasting snifter.

A-Ink black with a thin ring of milk chocolate colored head. Looks promising!

S-Cold coffee,a light boozy aroma.

T/M-Oh yeah! This is awesome. Very simple and straight to the point. Coffee, coffee, and more coffee. There are some nice, roasty malts mid-palate to hold it together. The 9.5%ABV provides a pleasant warmth on the back of the throat, but this is dangerously drinkable.Mouthfeel is thin and concentrated at first, edging up to a medium-bodied, fairly smooth finish. One of the best coffee stouts I've had to date.

D-I love this beer.

DaveHS, Oct 03, 2010
Photo of CampusCrew
4.6/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

appearance: black like coffee with great head retention head retention and some lacing down the glass.

smell: deep dark malts, lots of chocolate flavor, loaded coffee

taste: low hop profile than i though, lots of deep dark malt flavor. smooth easy drinking high abv coffee stout. lots of bitterness from the coffee flavor on the back

mouthfeel: medum to full, les than expected, but appreciated

drinkability: not over rated. it's world class.

CampusCrew, Oct 01, 2010
Photo of tewaris
4.22/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

Péché Mortel
9.5% ABV
OG?
IBUs?
11.5 oz bottle with a twist-off cap (odd!) and no freshness date poured into big Brandy snifter on September 27, 2010. The guy at the store had told that it was very fresh

Appearance 4.5/5
Pours clear and very dark brown, and looks pitch black in the glass. The head is thick, creamy, dark brown with good retention, but minimal lacing.

Aroma 4/5
Coffee, chocolate, and sweet malts in plenty. No hops.

Taste 4/5
Acidic and fruity coffee notes with some malty sweetness, but the balance is decidedly towards bitter coffee. Medium finish with plenty of roast and a long, luxurious roasty aftertaste, full of coffee bitterness. Warming, but never boozy. Similar to Founders Breakfast Stout, this stout is all about coffee.

Mouthfeel 4.5/5
A bigger body won't hurt this beer and less carbonation would probably make it silkier. This one would be sublime on cask!

Drinkability 5/5
The 9.5% ABV never bothers, yet the body and finish are suitable for this style and alcohol. Very good.

Other
A fine beer, and a treat for coffee lovers. Between this and Founders Breakfast, I will go with the latter because of the price, but that doesn't alter the scores!

tewaris, Sep 28, 2010
Péché Mortel (Imperial Stout Au Cafe) from Brasserie Dieu Du Ciel
98 out of 100 based on 3,960 ratings.