Chaman - Brasserie Dieu Du Ciel

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171 Ratings
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Ratings: 171
Reviews: 82
rAvg: 4
pDev: 9.25%
Wants: 17
Gots: 16 | FT: 1
Brewed by:
Brasserie Dieu Du Ciel visit their website
Quebec, Canada

Style | ABV
American Double / Imperial IPA |  9.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: Popsinc on 06-10-2003

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Photo of 01121987
4.61/5  rDev +15.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

darkish not so pale hazy appearance. looks fresh. and smells it too!
intense american hop aroma
refreshing and explosive bitterness is restrained by a strong malt backbone...excellent balance. incredibly perfect hop flavor and aroma.
full bodied and slightly sweet but bitterness balances nicely and prevents from being cloying.
an exceptional beer that is very drinkable for its strength!

More User Reviews:
Photo of Popsinc
4.2/5  rDev +5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

La Mondix is also known as the 10th Anniversaire du Mondial, brewed specifically for the 2003 Montreal beer festival.

A nice amber pour with a generous head. I found both the nose and palate to have a good combination of fruitiness and hoppiness giving this beer excellent balance. It did have a nice alcohol kick to it, seeing as how this beer sits at 9.0%

As far as IPA's go, this beer is a pleasure and a fine example.

Photo of JohnnyBarman
3.83/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Single bottle, shared with a friend of mine as part of a beer tasting session. Can't get enough of DDC's artwork, this bottle looks fantastic.

Poured a hazy amber-copper colour, with a thin but persistent white head.

The nose was surprisingly underwhelming given the nature of the brew and DDC's track record for these things. Biscuit, citrus, a bit of hops, bread, caramel.

One of those rare brews whose personality is almost entirely found in the taste. A boisterously hoppy finish is prefaced with a surprisingly mellow malty entry with notes of bread, caramel and fruit. Neither oppressively hoppy nor boozy, Chaman is a surprisingly balanced brew. Lower carbonation, thicker and slightly syrupy, Chaman reminded me a great deal of a barleywine in terms of its mouthfeel. A bit more carbonation could have perked this brew up.

An enjoyable brew, though not the flavor explosion I was expecting from the same brewery that makes Peche Mortel and Rigor Mortis. Still, the balance to this beer is quite nice, which nicely masks any alcohol content. A dangerous brew indeed.

Photo of BGDrock
4.14/5  rDev +3.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

From notes:

Appearance: unfiltered and as a result very cloudy; pale amber; decent head with fine suds

Aroma: green, grassy hops jump out; some floral hops too; mild sweetness in background somewhat like apples or grapes; hint of spice

Taste & Mouthfeel: slightly creamy texture, some light, sweet malts at start but quickly turns to hop bitterness that keeps on building; added character from the unfiltered yeast is an interesting dynamic

Overall: great variety and play of flavours, even if it's not much to look at

Photo of biboergosum
3.88/5  rDev -3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

341ml bottle at 9% ABV. My favourite Quebecois brewer plus my favourite beer style - c'est tres bien, I'm hoping.

This beer pours a hazy, frosted medium copper amber hue, with two fat fingers of puffy and tightly foamy beige head, which leaves some grotto-esque lace around the glass as it recedes, all slow and steady like.

It smells of bready, biscuity, and doughy malt, a middling American citrus and pine hop bitterness, a hint of the medicinal essences of the titular wise man, and further boozy perfumed florals and spiked tropical fruit punch notes. The taste is a huge comparative broadside switcheroo - puckering bitter pine and anonymous citrus hops up front, and floral at the same time, amongst a seemingly dry honeyed biscuity bready malt, ethereal and wan caramel sweetness tics, and nary a scant warning/warming from the 18-proof alcohol.

The carbonation is on the low side, barely a tickle to indicate otherwise, the body medium-heavy in weight, smooth enough, and a little creamy, in a hollow, airy sense. It finishes more sweet than dry, the besotted breadiness and slowly evolving caramel character washing over the now sadly waning hops.

At times, a confusing rendition of the Imperial IPA style (but then, they do omit the 'I' in IPA, so what's that all about?), but everything eventually comes up balanced, enjoyable, and scarily drinkable. Maybe the booze exists in the intermediary world of the eponymous entity?

Photo of Sammy
3.92/5  rDev -2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Enjoyed on tap at the brewpub. Cloudy orange and white head. A very good bitterness, a double pale. Well malted, just in case. Nice citrus flavour comes through just fine, there is a good mouthfeel. Foamy mouthfeel, carbonation and temperature just right.

Photo of Alieniloquium
3.65/5  rDev -8.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

12 oz. bottle poured into an RR -tion glass. Thanks to Phyl21ca for this bottle!

Appearance - Nice cream colored head atop a very hazy amber body. Dark looking for an IPA. Looks like 90 min. I fear this could be a malt monster. Lots of sediment pouring into the glass. It started halfway through the pour.

Smell - Smells like a malt monster. Good bouquet of hops up front. Not dominating. It's got a strong sweet and caramel smell that really dominates. I smell a bit of booze too.

Taste - So malty IPAs aren't what I like, but hey, they still taste good. Some hops up front, but really it's a malt-forward IPA. Sweet, but not too bad. Strong bitter finish, but it might be more from sediment than from hops.

Mouthfeel - Heavy bodied for an IPA, but not syrupy. The malt leaves its mark. A little sluggish to drink. Strong bitter finish from the sediment.

Overall - Just the positive side of average. Too many good IPAs out there to be drinking this more than a couple times. And what's with the floaties?

Photo of Yoonisaykul
3.53/5  rDev -11.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Happy to see this at the store. Hadn't seen anything new and interesing in a while.

A- Clear golden caramel color under a yeloowish and heavy-looking head.

S- Butterscotch and rose water followed by alcohol and a faint vegetable aroma. Not a very strong aroma.

T- Lots of butterscoth malt followed hop spiciness and finally vegetable. Nice alcohol and hop burn in afer-taste.

M- Medium to low carbonation.

O- Pretty good. Fun for a different type of big ale. But every sip kind of gets me looking for a bolder Double IPA taste. Bottle indicates this is an Imperial Pale Ale rather than a IIPA. I guess that's why it's not as hoppy.

Would probably buy more ofit if it was cheaper. I don't feel ripped off though.

Photo of joemcgrath27
3.95/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A - cloudy burnt orange with a solid off white head that dissipated slowly, leaving respectable lacing
S - herbal and spicy with grassy, nutty, and grainy accents
T - strong floral and herbal hoppiness up front with hints of lemon and pepper, backed up with nutty and light caramel malts
M - medium to full body with a biting bitterness and alcohol kick
O - a unique enough DIPA to be tempting and enjoyable, the alcohol is well hidden in taste but has some teeth in the back of the throat, but once again I love and respect the experimental nature of DDC's brews

Photo of wspscott
3.83/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz bottle in Sam Adams glass
bottled 4/14
purchased at La Duchesse in Quebec City

A: Very orange with a little bit of haze from a not so careful pour, thin off-white head with very little lace.
S: Not a lot going on, just a hint of hops, very surprised given what seems to be a massive amount of late hops that so little appears in the nose.
T: Orange, tangerine, candied citrus, no bitterness at all, just a lot of hop flavor combined with some caramel sweetness. An odd hint of spice that makes me think Belgian yeast, but it is very subtle, not unpleasant.
M: Crisp, yet mouthfilling/tongue coating. Easy to drink
O: A very dangerous beer, if you told me this was a 6% beer I would try to finish the six-pack, absolutely no sign of the 9% alcohol level. I wish I had bought more, highly recommended.

Photo of eat
4.03/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On tap at Dieu du Ciel in Montreal. Listed on the menu as 8% ABV and as an Imperial Pale Ale (no India).

Translucent and glowing reddish-copper in colour with a complete but thin cover of cream coloured head. Awesome lacing.

Smells of caramel malt, grapefruit, floral and piny hops and candy. Good smell; not enough presence.

This is an intense brew. The first thing that hit me was whole wheat bread. It seems to be a touch too sweet and almost too bitter as well. Very sweet and bitter. The hop profile is somewhat hidden under the above-average malt presence (for a pale ale) and is almost soley obvious in the form of a general bitterness. A touch of slightly floral grapefruit shines through. The ABV shows itself fairly strongly for 8%, although it's not unpleasant, matching the intensity of everything else.

Sticky medium body with medium carbonation.

I like this but couldn't see myself drinking more than a pint of it; it's too intensely bitter and sweet. This is a big, flavourful beer.

Photo of Goldorak
4.05/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Sampled at the anniversary party, bottle dated September 2004, so one year old.

Appearance: Opaque, murky peach, with a few flecks of yeast deposits swirling about, topped with a patchy, off-white lace.

Smell: I wasn't expecting much from an aged IPA, but the hops were definately present and pleasant, oily and resinous.

Taste: An exquisite balance of dessicating alcohol, cloying malt and smooth but persistant hop astringency. Not overly hoppy, in fact nothing was out of place. Of all the aged bottles we had that night, it was the one that I had the lowest expectations, and it just might have been the best of the lot.

Photo of CrazyDavros
3.79/5  rDev -5.3%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.75

Pours amber with a fading head.
Nose shows rich sweet malt with a little piny and resinous hops too. Some bready malt and golden syrup.
Similarly sweet flavours, loads of malt. Some booze and mild hops attempt to balance it out. A bit one-dimensional.
Could use more carbonation.

Photo of Rutager
4.08/5  rDev +2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks Hoppypocket for this quebec treat!

Appearance. Pours a hazy gold amber with a finger of creamy white head.

Smell. Toasty and slightly sour light grains. Herby, earthy and citrus hops.

Taste. Lemons and oranges, good bitter hops, well-toasted grains, slightly floral. Pretty nice, lots of flavour.

Mouthfeel. Medium+ body with medium-low carbonation.

Overall. Really stands out from the crowd as far as hop bombs go. Tons of bitter hops and bright citrus fruits ...with that ddc sophistication.

Photo of Phyl21ca
3.95/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bottle: Poured a deep copper color ale with a large foamy head with good retention and some mild lacing. Aroma consists of citrus and earthy hops with some clear bitterness. Taste is also dominated by citrus and earthy hops with light resinous feel and some dry caramel malt notes as well. Body is slightly fuller then average with good carbonation and no apparent alcohol. Well brewed with great drinkability factor though lacking some dry-hopping.

Photo of TheSevenDuffs
3.58/5  rDev -10.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottled on 05/12. So about 3 months on this one. Poured int o tulip.

A - Medium orange with a golden glow along the bottom. One finger of cream coloured head.

S - Sweet caramel up front with floral and piney hop aromas and a touch of spice in the background.

T - A big bitterness up front that immediately gives way to a big sweet malt profile. The hops return in the finish adding some lemon, pine, herbal and grassy flavours that are somewhat muted.

M - Medium body with a lot of sticky hop oils and a good chew. Light carbonation.

O - A very good balanced DIPA. The ABV is well hidden. Would love to try this fresh and/or on tap.

Photo of ZorPrime
4.27/5  rDev +6.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

I've been waiting to try this one for quite some time now. Lets do this, I've got high expectation for this one. Tasted June 1st, 2011. Review notes says:

Beer color is copper with some orange notes in there. Nice creamy head on top of it. It sticks quite good on the glass. The aroma is of medium intensity, I would have expected more intensity here. Tropical fruits. citrus, grapefruits. A strong base of caramel malts. Taste, it is more intense. It is however a sweet beer, due to the malt base. The finish is all hops with a strong bitterness. Very balanced. Easy to drink. A nice beer from Dieu du Ciel.

Photo of mikesgroove
4.23/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

my canadian connections are getting better and better! served into a pint glass and consumed 5.14.11

Rich dark amber color with a ton of orange highlights mixed in throughout. Tond of haze and a nice two inch foam top that never wanted to settle. The bottom of the glass was riddled with sticky foam once i was done. Really very well done here for sure.

The aroma was tons of sticky, resin like hops all the way. Oodles of pine aroma, mixed in with some rich orange and tangerine. Sight hint of a sweet malty base around here as well. The flavor here was much of the same. Rich pine hops, sticky with a resin like flavor and a good bready and biscuit like base to it. Nice balance here, but still way leaning towards the hops in terms of a definte direction. Nice medium feel was morethen adequatly carbonated and the alachol was soo well hidden, I plowed through this one much quicker then I should have,

Overall this was a solid beer.

Photo of Beelzebeer
4.23/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

341ml bottle, in DDC tulip

A - mahogany colour with medium density head, about 1", with good lacing. Looks like alot of carbonation

S - good balance of biscuit malt and citrus hops. Grapefruit, with a little pine.

T - biscuit malt off the top, with some bitter coming in afterwards. Surprisingly nice grapefruit/passionfruit after taste. Alcohol is well hidden, and barely noticeable at all. Good balance of malt and body/hop.

M - Perfect. Low-Medium carbonation, dense, creamy feel. Goes down super smooth.

O - Normally I'm not that big on fruity DIPAs but this one was surprising. I also am normally not into this level of carbonation (it was a little more than a cask would be), but it really worked well. Would like to try it on cask, if it exists, some day to compare. Great job, as always.

Photo of irishkyle21
4.3/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Every beer I had at DDC were great and I barely put a dent in the lineup (but I did put a big dent in the keg of Peche Mortel). Chaman has a good looking amber color, lacing and retention is on par with what I like to see. I like the glasses they use for this beer (and most of their stronger beers).

Smells of caramel malts, piny/citric hops and spices (from the yeast?).

Tastes like it smells, caramel malts, bitter hops, spices and a warming alcohol.

Photo of mtomlins
4.1/5  rDev +2.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a nice copper hue with 1 finger of creamy, off-white head with OK retention but nice lacing. The nose features bready malt and pine and citrus hops. The taste has a big bready malt backbone, sweet but without the cloying caramel notes, and is balanced nicely with sweet citrus hops and some nice pine tar. The body is a bit heavy due to slighly lower carbonation. Overall, a very pleasing brew!

Photo of IronDjinn
4.35/5  rDev +8.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

From a 341 ml brown bottle. I've had a nasty habit of gobbling this stuff up faster than I can review one, so I've finally set some boundaries of self-restraint to write this one up finally. Pours out a cloudy amber hue, coppery tones when held to light, frothy cream coloured head with solid retention.

Tropical fruit esters, yeasty spice, leafy and citrus hops, warming alcohol and rich bready malt in the aroma.

Full chewy bready malt up front in the flavour, lemon and tangerine follows, building with some yeasty twang and dry spicy, leafy hops towards the finish, melding with warm alcohol and grapefruit pith that lingers on into the aftertaste.

Mouthfeel is on the lighter side of full, with a thick creamy texture and moderate carbonation.

This is a DIPA that not only delivers the goods, but exhibits its own character as well compared to many of the style. Far from being one-dimensional there's a fair amount going on here, yet it's not overwhelming or a Gordian Knot of complexity either. Worth seeking out, and I need to stock up on more.

Photo of 3Vandoo
4/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Aged 18 months in bottle.

Goldorak shared this beer with me.

Ruby red with a medium head that slowly let herself go. More carbonated than the version in draft.

Smell of hops and alcohol, floral smells, less floral than the one in draft.

Her taste is more alcohol than her draft sister, very carbonated, sweet, hard on the palate, malty. Shy ester of banana and flowers, more a malty beer.

compared to the Chaman in draft, it is a more mellow version in terms of hops, the floral essence hops are less and the malt take it over.

Photo of the42ndtourist
4.45/5  rDev +11.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

As Popsinc says, this was brewed for the Mondial de la Biere in Montreal (2003), so if you weren't there, I doubt you'll ever find it. And you're missing something!

An Imperial Pale Ale, this exhibited a great hop presence. Even more to my liking was the predominantly British nature of the hops - earthy, spicy, and devoid of grapefruit or perfume flavours. Amply backed by a solid malt base, there was none of the runaway hopping which could be present in such a beer.

Colour was deep red, head showed up at the pour and faded quickly to a ring around the edge. Nose was peppery, spicy, and sweet.

Photo of ritzkiss
3.78/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle at The Only cafe, bottled on date of 05/11, about 5months old. Pours a hazy orange hue with a finger of tightly packed sticky head.

Really malty in the nose, sticky sweet caramel and biscuit with a hint of honey. Some floral hops with a hint of pine. Flavor is also quite devoid of bitterness and hops for a DIPA, the few months have not been kind to this in the hop department. Some grapefruit and lemon, touch of pine. Really well constructed malt profile though, biscuity with some depth, caramel and toffee, toast, maybe some Munich in there as well. Sweet but not too much so, balanced by a drying finish. Tastes almost like a barleywine at this point and a pretty good one. I have to think that with this lack of bitterness, which normally take much more time to fade, this beer was not overly hopped to begin with - typically how DDC goes with their IPAs.

Amazingly good still, despite the hop attack that characterizes a DIPA. I don't really recommend it for those seeking the aggressive character of an American styled DIPA but this is still a tasty brew if you're willing to toss off style restrictions.

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Chaman from Brasserie Dieu Du Ciel
89 out of 100 based on 171 ratings.