Chaman - Brasserie Dieu Du Ciel

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Ratings: 171
Reviews: 82
rAvg: 4
pDev: 9.25%
Wants: 17
Gots: 15 | FT: 1
Brewed by:
Brasserie Dieu Du Ciel visit their website
Quebec, Canada

Style | ABV
American Double / Imperial IPA |  9.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

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Beer added by: Popsinc on 06-10-2003

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Photo of Sammy
3.92/5  rDev -2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Enjoyed on tap at the brewpub. Cloudy orange and white head. A very good bitterness, a double pale. Well malted, just in case. Nice citrus flavour comes through just fine, there is a good mouthfeel. Foamy mouthfeel, carbonation and temperature just right.

Photo of Phyl21ca
3.95/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bottle: Poured a deep copper color ale with a large foamy head with good retention and some mild lacing. Aroma consists of citrus and earthy hops with some clear bitterness. Taste is also dominated by citrus and earthy hops with light resinous feel and some dry caramel malt notes as well. Body is slightly fuller then average with good carbonation and no apparent alcohol. Well brewed with great drinkability factor though lacking some dry-hopping.

Photo of mikesgroove
4.23/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

my canadian connections are getting better and better! served into a pint glass and consumed 5.14.11

Rich dark amber color with a ton of orange highlights mixed in throughout. Tond of haze and a nice two inch foam top that never wanted to settle. The bottom of the glass was riddled with sticky foam once i was done. Really very well done here for sure.

The aroma was tons of sticky, resin like hops all the way. Oodles of pine aroma, mixed in with some rich orange and tangerine. Sight hint of a sweet malty base around here as well. The flavor here was much of the same. Rich pine hops, sticky with a resin like flavor and a good bready and biscuit like base to it. Nice balance here, but still way leaning towards the hops in terms of a definte direction. Nice medium feel was morethen adequatly carbonated and the alachol was soo well hidden, I plowed through this one much quicker then I should have,

Overall this was a solid beer.

Photo of biboergosum
3.88/5  rDev -3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

341ml bottle at 9% ABV. My favourite Quebecois brewer plus my favourite beer style - c'est tres bien, I'm hoping.

This beer pours a hazy, frosted medium copper amber hue, with two fat fingers of puffy and tightly foamy beige head, which leaves some grotto-esque lace around the glass as it recedes, all slow and steady like.

It smells of bready, biscuity, and doughy malt, a middling American citrus and pine hop bitterness, a hint of the medicinal essences of the titular wise man, and further boozy perfumed florals and spiked tropical fruit punch notes. The taste is a huge comparative broadside switcheroo - puckering bitter pine and anonymous citrus hops up front, and floral at the same time, amongst a seemingly dry honeyed biscuity bready malt, ethereal and wan caramel sweetness tics, and nary a scant warning/warming from the 18-proof alcohol.

The carbonation is on the low side, barely a tickle to indicate otherwise, the body medium-heavy in weight, smooth enough, and a little creamy, in a hollow, airy sense. It finishes more sweet than dry, the besotted breadiness and slowly evolving caramel character washing over the now sadly waning hops.

At times, a confusing rendition of the Imperial IPA style (but then, they do omit the 'I' in IPA, so what's that all about?), but everything eventually comes up balanced, enjoyable, and scarily drinkable. Maybe the booze exists in the intermediary world of the eponymous entity?

Photo of MasterSki
3.96/5  rDev -1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Bottle from papat444. Dated April 2012, so approximately three months old when consumed. Served in a Russian River tulip.

A - Transparent golden body topped with an off-white foam that settles to a thin cap and spotty lace.

S - Unfortunately this has faded quite a bit, as you'd expect from a 3-month old IIPA. Toffee and honey-dipped breadymalts, with light notes of pine, lemon citrus, herbs, grassy, and floral hops. I suspect this was a fairly balanced beer to begin with, and the malt character has sufficient depth to keep things interesting.

T - The flavor is heavy on caramel and brown sugar malt sweetness mid-palate before yielding to a piney hop finish and moderately bitter aftertaste. Alcohol is well-disguised.

M - Medium-bodied, with a nice toasty texture and dry finish. Pleasant moderate carbonation, with a hint of alcohol warmth. Pretty easy to drink for 9%.

D - I'd like to re-evaluate this with a fresher sample (ideally on-tap at Dieu Du Ciel), as it seems to be a very unique and unconventional Imperial IPA. I appreciate the opportunity all the same though.

Photo of smcolw
4.64/5  rDev +16%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Dark gold and clear; modest head which dies; no lace. This is the weakest part of the beer.

First thought is of how fresh this beer smells; lots aromatic floral hop. Enough malt to provide the base.

Rich body without the oiliness; great malt start and then the hop. Oh, the glorious hops which stick to the tongue without being overpowering. Unbelievably balanced for the style. One of the best!

This is simply a superior beer!!

Photo of Alieniloquium
3.65/5  rDev -8.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

12 oz. bottle poured into an RR -tion glass. Thanks to Phyl21ca for this bottle!

Appearance - Nice cream colored head atop a very hazy amber body. Dark looking for an IPA. Looks like 90 min. I fear this could be a malt monster. Lots of sediment pouring into the glass. It started halfway through the pour.

Smell - Smells like a malt monster. Good bouquet of hops up front. Not dominating. It's got a strong sweet and caramel smell that really dominates. I smell a bit of booze too.

Taste - So malty IPAs aren't what I like, but hey, they still taste good. Some hops up front, but really it's a malt-forward IPA. Sweet, but not too bad. Strong bitter finish, but it might be more from sediment than from hops.

Mouthfeel - Heavy bodied for an IPA, but not syrupy. The malt leaves its mark. A little sluggish to drink. Strong bitter finish from the sediment.

Overall - Just the positive side of average. Too many good IPAs out there to be drinking this more than a couple times. And what's with the floaties?

Photo of biegaman
4/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Dieu Du Ciel! Chaman isn't your typical sunny, tropical DIPA and it shows in its somewhat gloomy appearance; its dark orange colour is completely overcast and proffers little highlighting and no clarity whatsoever. Tiny bubbles swirl like souls in the inferno and, once surfaced, forgo making any head to just be immortalized right onto the sides of the glass.

One sniff of Chaman will have you seeing green. Mint, flowers, grass clippings, leaves and tree resins - there's such a general 'earthy' profile that it's actually real easy to see the forest for the trees, so to speak. Rounding out the bouquet is dried orange peel and a little bit of onion skin smell that is not unheard of for DIPAs. It wouldn't make the fainthearted, well, faint.

Ample hopping provides a mouthful of savory dried herbs, tangy orange peel as well as a shot of lemon acidity in the finish. There's enough grass and florals to instill a "spring day" feeling. Crisply toasted malts also give way to caramel sweetness and a wholesome breadiness. Does that label read 9% or 6%? Alcohol is blended right into the flavour and is thus much easier to take.

Unlike other Canadian examples this doesn't allow the malt to interfere too much with the hops. At the same time, however, its earthy and herbal profile is a far cry from the lip-splittingly citric fruitiness that is most often associated with the style. All in all, it provides enough hoppiness to scratch a hop-head's itch but it won't render them weak in the knees or anything.

The double-IPA originated on the American West Coast but has found true admirers and raison d'être amongst brewers and consumers all over the world. This French-Canadian rendition is a bit different - apparently Quebecers like even their beers to be distinctive - but still provides a satisfying amount of big, green, pungent hoppiness. Like anything by DDC, it's worth trying.

Photo of liamt07
4.08/5  rDev +2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle courtesy of ZorPrime, 341ml bottle into a tulip. Bottled May 2011, and listed at 9%ABV. Thanks Eric.

Pours a copper-orange, with a fluffy and dense pearl coloured head. Sheets of lace and good retention. Nose has some orange, citrus, some slight melon notes, and some floral and herbal qualities. A noticable bread component, with some honey, vanilla and bit of alcohol as well. Lots of stuff going on there. Taste is interesting as well, and quite different from most DIPAs I've encountered. A large malt base comes thorugh with some whole wheat/dark bread type flavours, lots of melon/honeydew, a slight sweetness and alcohol again. Light floral and herbal notes strike again. Mouthfeel is medium full, decent bitterness and drinkability is only hindered by the alcohol which impedes at times. Solid and I'm really loving the melon notes I've picked up in a few DIPAs recently.

Photo of TheSevenDuffs
3.58/5  rDev -10.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottled on 05/12. So about 3 months on this one. Poured int o tulip.

A - Medium orange with a golden glow along the bottom. One finger of cream coloured head.

S - Sweet caramel up front with floral and piney hop aromas and a touch of spice in the background.

T - A big bitterness up front that immediately gives way to a big sweet malt profile. The hops return in the finish adding some lemon, pine, herbal and grassy flavours that are somewhat muted.

M - Medium body with a lot of sticky hop oils and a good chew. Light carbonation.

O - A very good balanced DIPA. The ABV is well hidden. Would love to try this fresh and/or on tap.

Photo of Derek
4.25/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

I think this is more of a hopped-up Belgian strong pale ale.

A: Rosey-copper, white head, very little retention, more of a leg than a lace.

S: Spicy tangerine, slight citrus & pine, light caramel, fruity esters & alcohol.

T: Warming alcohol (hints of phenolic spicyness) & tropical fruit. I think they've used a Belgian yeast. I should've asked the brewer (as I was sitting next to him at the bar). Perhaps the fermentation temperature just got a little warmer with this batch. Bitterness is up front & sharp. The malt plays backstage here, with only a light caramel flavour. Tangerine with hints of citrus, pine and woody spicyness. Very unique.

M: Moderate body and carbonation, well attenuated, slight hint of acidity, dry finish.

D: Great for its weight.

Photo of DrJay
4.03/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Hazy tangerine colour with yellow highlights and a dense, cream coloured head. Excellent retention and thick clumps of lace were left on the glass. Fresh hop aroma and caramel maltiness dominate, but there's some fruit in there and a bit of alcohol that peeks through. Overall, a good balance of strong flavours. Lots of malty sweetness and bitterness throughout, with moderate floral hops and alcohol. Fruitiness was on the light side and it finishes balanced and warming. Creamy, viscous texture with a full body and some dryness. It seems lighter than it really is, nicely balanced, and easy drinking for the alcohol content.

Photo of Viggo
4.12/5  rDev +3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On tap at the brewpub.

Pours a very lightly hazed yellow gold, very thick and tight white head forms, drops down to a solid layer and ring, lots of lace sticks to the glass.

Smell is nice, very hoppy, tons of citrus, grapefruit and orange, some lemony zing, floral, a bit of pineapple, some caramel and malt sweetness, alcohol, hops really run the show.

Taste is similar, alcohol kick, quite boozy, grapefruit, caramel, some biscuit, sweet through the middle, some floral, more citrusy hops, lightly peppery in the finish, solid bitterness but not overdone.

Mouthfeel is medium bodied with low to medium carbonation, some warmth but goes down pretty easy. Real nice!

Photo of wordemupg
4.22/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

650ml bottle poured into abbey glass july18 2010

A hazy golden orange with a few bubbles popping up to feed a thumbs width of head that falls to a film leaving a few patches of lace along the way

S caramel is hard to miss along with some floral and citric hops

T a little sweetness with some tangerine to go along with what I smell, some malt comes out to but still pretty hoppy and when you consider this bottle is almost a year old it's quite impressive

M thicker then expected with a slightly syrupy feel and just enough carbonation to give it some life

D this is a pretty sexy dipa when all's said and done, I'm impressed how well the hops stand up to time. I will drink this again

A big thank you to hoser for a chance to try this one at his British Open Sunday tasting. I can't wait to get to the brew pub to try this fresh it must be amazing

Photo of spinrsx
4/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

341ml Bottle

Appearance - Hazy orange colour with a fairly large size frothy beige coloured head. The haziness makes it hard to see the carbonation level and there is some excellent lacing on the sides of the glass. The head lasted for 5 minutes before it began to dissipate.

Smell - Malts, caramel, hops, oranges, pineapples

Taste & Mouth - There is an average amount of carbonation and most of the taste is made up of caramel and malts mixed with hops. There is also a lot of pineapple flavour mixed with some oranges and I can taste the alcohol. The beer finishes with a boozy pineapple and malt aftertaste with some light lingering hop bitterness.

Overall - This is a very drinkable DIPA. I found the flavour got better as the beer approached room temperature. There is a lot of tropical fruit flavour and and the taste is well balanced.

Photo of tbeckett
3.96/5  rDev -1%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Bottle from Broue HAHA.

A - Poured with a solid, thick and creamy one finger eggshell head. Tons of carbonation. Hazy dark copper. Looks really nice with the carbonation streaming up all the sides. Great retention with the full finger staying around the whole time. Great rings of lacing. Great.

S - Citrus hop, pine, malty balance. Good resinous, hoppy strength. Sticky in the nose almost.

T - Big juicy hop presence. Tropical fruits and thick pine sap sorta taste. Big malt presence too but it takes the appropriate back seat to the hop body. Resinous and juicy.

M - I expected more bitterness. Great carbonation and a medium body. Not the best.

O/D - A good DIPA from DDC. Not bitter enough and the hops don't grab you as much. It's balanced well but more hop aggression would be better. Good but room for improvement.

Photo of CrazyDavros
3.79/5  rDev -5.3%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.75

Pours amber with a fading head.
Nose shows rich sweet malt with a little piny and resinous hops too. Some bready malt and golden syrup.
Similarly sweet flavours, loads of malt. Some booze and mild hops attempt to balance it out. A bit one-dimensional.
Could use more carbonation.

Photo of francisweizen
4/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Notes from a recent trip to the mother land in 2006.

Fresh from the tap.

In my glass is a light orange fluid with a nice off-white cappa cappa of foam. Nice legs/lacing as well. Aromas hit up with Canadian/American hops and a nice Belgian spiciness as well. Taste is a nice melange of american hop varietals, pillsbury doughy malts, and Belgiany yeast characteristics. Mouthfeel is medium bodied and smooth, drinkability is nice.

Good stuff for sure

Photo of dar482
3.5/5  rDev -12.5%

On tap at DDC.

The beer comes in a clear deep amber orange.

The flavor hits of lots of spicy and piney hops. A bit of resinous character. The beer in general is quite sweet with a touch of spicy character on the back end that almost hits like alcohol. Herbal bitterness hits on the finish, but it is quite light on bitterness.

Just a sweeter maltier DIPA and a slight failure in the style.

Photo of Rutager
4.08/5  rDev +2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks Hoppypocket for this quebec treat!

Appearance. Pours a hazy gold amber with a finger of creamy white head.

Smell. Toasty and slightly sour light grains. Herby, earthy and citrus hops.

Taste. Lemons and oranges, good bitter hops, well-toasted grains, slightly floral. Pretty nice, lots of flavour.

Mouthfeel. Medium+ body with medium-low carbonation.

Overall. Really stands out from the crowd as far as hop bombs go. Tons of bitter hops and bright citrus fruits ...with that ddc sophistication.

Photo of andrenaline
4/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Pours a murky caramel colour, two fingers of beige head with solid retention and nice chunky lacing.

S - Pretty mild on the hop front, with caramel and toffee, touch of citrus and some spiciness is also coming through.

T - Earthy hops that come across quite mild on the tongue, with the caramel and toffee malts coming through on the finish. An oily resin lingers on the palette. The ABV is very well hidden.

M - Lighter bodied ale that can come across a tad syropy. A carbonation lift might be useful here.

O - Overall a tasty DIPA, but not my favourite. Certainly more balanced, offering up fewer hops than I would've otherwise liked. Worth picking up, but if you`re expecting a hop bomb you'll be disappointed.

Photo of jrenihan
3.92/5  rDev -2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bottled May 2011. Not as fresh as could be hoped.

Beer is light orange in colour, caramelly. Small white head, dissipates quickly. Little lacing.

Granted it is five months old, but the scent is quite unexpected. A grapefruity scent, but not in the way that IPAs typically have that smell. A bit soapy. Kind of floral. There is an additional smell that I cannot quite place. Sort of malty but does not have any of the caramel or biscuit scents that often occur. On reading the ingredients, I see that there is wheat in here as well, which explains a fair bit.

Beer is fairly bitter, even in spite of the five months. Citrusy, some pine, a bit tart. The wheat influence is notieable and works well. An unusual taste for a DIPA, very much following the nose. Pretty good!

High carbonation, full bodied, a bit sticky.

A pretty unusual DIPA, but it works well. Quite enjoyable.

Photo of bobsy
4.75/5  rDev +18.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Climbing up Mont Royal has its rewards: a fantastic view of the city below, the pleasure of lying on grass in the middle of the city and soaking up the sun, and the feeling that maybe if we did this more often then maybe it would help us appreciate life's simpler pleasures. Descending Mont Royal also calls for a reward... the climb can be very tiring. Fortunately, Dieu du Ciel is only a 15 minute stroll from the mountain, and to my absolute delight their IIPA is on tap.

It's excellent reputation helped me pick it as my first beer, and very little disappointed. Fantastic orange/amber pour with a more than adequate white cap that laced well. Nose of tangerine, caramel and pine needles. Brilliant hoppy taste well balanced by caramel, and a warming alcohol finish. Fruity notes include tangerine, grapefruit and kiwi. Smooth medium mouthfeel. Excellent, and it seems a lot lighter in terms of alcohol than it is. Definitely worth every cent.

Photo of peensteen
3.95/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a pale orangey-brown colour with a thick white head that settles slowly. This one kind of looks mean...I like that. The nose is piney, citrus and bitter hop is there big time with faint notes of alcohol. The palate is malty up front giving way to a good bitterness, citrus is present here as well, a touch boozy. Medium creamy mouthfeel that is rather enjoyable. Drinks fairly well, although it was boozy at times and the ABV is quite noticeable. Still a solid brew though.

Photo of IronDjinn
4.35/5  rDev +8.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

From a 341 ml brown bottle. I've had a nasty habit of gobbling this stuff up faster than I can review one, so I've finally set some boundaries of self-restraint to write this one up finally. Pours out a cloudy amber hue, coppery tones when held to light, frothy cream coloured head with solid retention.

Tropical fruit esters, yeasty spice, leafy and citrus hops, warming alcohol and rich bready malt in the aroma.

Full chewy bready malt up front in the flavour, lemon and tangerine follows, building with some yeasty twang and dry spicy, leafy hops towards the finish, melding with warm alcohol and grapefruit pith that lingers on into the aftertaste.

Mouthfeel is on the lighter side of full, with a thick creamy texture and moderate carbonation.

This is a DIPA that not only delivers the goods, but exhibits its own character as well compared to many of the style. Far from being one-dimensional there's a fair amount going on here, yet it's not overwhelming or a Gordian Knot of complexity either. Worth seeking out, and I need to stock up on more.

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Chaman from Brasserie Dieu Du Ciel
89 out of 100 based on 171 ratings.