Charbonniere - Brasserie Dieu Du Ciel

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92 Ratings
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Ratings: 92
Reviews: 55
rAvg: 3.77
pDev: 11.67%
Wants: 15
Gots: 6 | FT: 1
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Brasserie Dieu Du Ciel visit their website
Quebec, Canada

Style | ABV
Smoked Beer |  5.40% ABV

Availability: Year-round

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Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 05-03-2002

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Ratings: 92 | Reviews: 55
Photo of Andy
4.42/5  rDev +17.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A rare smoked beer in Canada. Smoke and toasted hints in aroma from a very light colored beer (as far as most smoked beers go). Smoke flavors are balanced by a pleasant malt sweetness. The smoke flavor is not overwhelming.

Photo of canucklehead
4.32/5  rDev +14.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to Meisterburger for this one:

Poured into my Sam Adams perfect pint glass this is a slightly reddish dark brown beer with a reasonable head. What you really notice is the intense smoky nose that grabs your attention. The beer is a solid ale with all sorts of smoked malt. The finish is dry and the smoke lingers on your tongue. Great beer as I love smoked beer and cheese. Goes well with Morrocan Lamb Stew

Photo of mikesgroove
4.22/5  rDev +11.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Decided that I was going to go on a fridge cleaning for the next week before I need to take a break for a while. Went with this mixed sixer last night in an attempt to clean out some lighter fare. Served cold and poured into a pint glass, this was consumed on 11/03/2010.

A new one from a brewery I have always had great luck with, I jumped at the chance to try this one. Pours out a nice dark brown with a head of tan that reaches a height of around an inch or so before settling back down and leaving some nice lacing along the sides.

Aroma is full of campfire smoke right off the bat. I had been expecting it but it really came off quite strong and full. Really nicely done here I have to admit. Nice notes of light chocolate and big roasted malts are always a welcome treat. Flavor carries this over quite well as the chocolate and earthy notes lay underneath that wonderful smoky campfire like flavor that leaves a long finish with rich development across the tongue.

Overall a very fine example of the style and one that is extremely drinkable. I had no issues with putting this one down quickly and easily.

Photo of the42ndtourist
4.22/5  rDev +11.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Smoked Red Ale. Charbonniere - loosely, a place that makes charcoal. (I think).

Red with a brown tinge. Garnet is a good description. Head is a couple fingers' worth and drops back to a moderate covering layer. Nose holds smoke, obviously, but to my surprise there's more. The rest of the beer holds its own. There's some hoppiness to the taste, and the smoke is more akin to that of smoked sausage. (and indeed, that's what I was eating while drinking this - a smoked deer sausage)

A very tasty and quaffable smoked. Kudos to Dieu du Ciel for daring to make a smoked beer where the smoke is restrained. Don't get me wrong, I love my Smoked Porter and my Aecht Schlenkerla - it's just refreshing to find something different.

edit: had a pint at the brewpub. everything I said last year stands. This is a great beer. For the record - I've had rauchbier in Bamberg that wasn't as smoky or half as tasty as this. ('twas the Spezial).

Photo of lacqueredmouse
4.22/5  rDev +11.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

On tap at Sydney's Local Taphouse for the Canadian SpecTapular.

Lightish red-amber hue, with a fine but slightly filmy head of white bubbling. Some fine carbonation, but not a lot. Looks decent without being exceptional.

Definitely lots of smoke on the nose, but it's a big peaty and earthy kind of smoke aroma. Even a little roasted grain coming through. All of this succeeds in balancing the nose quite well. Very nice.

Taste is superb. A really big and robust smoke presence throughout, matched with some fresh, green, slightly herbaceous characters, and a light drying of the palate to create some crispness on the back. Smoke continues to the end though, leaving a lingering whisper of wood-fire and turned earth. All too often the smoke in a beer appears on the nose, but gets lost on the palate. This one is a winner.

A really wonderful smoked beer, full of flavour and very classic.

Photo of liamt07
4.18/5  rDev +10.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle courtesy of freud, bottled March 2011. Into a tulip, thanks Fred! Love me some smoke.

Pours a deep violet/burgundy, creamy offwhite cap that laces well. Nose is a rich meaty and woody smokiness, with some faint underlying sweetness. Taste is a slight change of pace as smoke and rich caramel notes present themselves in unison, taking turns presenting themselves on the palate. Great malt flavour. Smooth mouthfeel, with moderate lingering smoke and caramel sweetness. Heavy medium in body and a lower medium carbonation. Very drinkable and solid, if on the sweeter side, smoked offering.

Photo of dragonWhale
4.16/5  rDev +10.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

From the depths of the fouled cellar..bottled 3/10. It is time to drink this!
Pours brown, dark amber highlights, a creamy head, and the bbq pit leaps out at me. Some brilliant lace trails. Smells brilliant, the smoke is big but there's some sweet malt poking out.
Excellent taste, too. Peaty, smoky, but not overpowering, not caustic in the throat. Sweet malt fades into the smoke, leaving a pleasant smoky aftertaste. This is a really nice beer. First time I've had it and with the year on it, it's really held up well. Now to seek it out fresh..the new chore upon me.

Photo of BearsOnAcid
4.15/5  rDev +10.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4.5

Man, this beer was delicious!

Pour out a clear brown with an off white head. Smelled like smoked bacon, salami, and caramel malts. The taste as packed with a huge smoked meat taste. Very smooth and not overpowering though. The flavor lasted a while after you swallowed and you get a nice integration of a campfire flavor and brown malts. I wish this beer wasn't so thin. I would've liked it to have some more body. This was definitely one of the best smoked beers I've had and I'm not a very big fan of the style.

Photo of wordemupg
4.15/5  rDev +10.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

341ml bottle poured into DDC tulip april 21 2010

A clear deep amber with lots of bubbles floating up to half a glass of light tan head that has great retention and leaves a few partial rings of lace. the foam ever so slowly falls to a island but I finish the beer before its gone

S an earthy, woody, smokey smell like your wool sweater after sitting next to a campfire all night, perhaps a little smoked meat is hiding in there to

T all the things I smell but just a little weaker in the mouth, I also pick up on a little chocolate that was no where to be found on the nose

M thick enough to please and it fluffs up a bit in your mouth due to decent carbonation

D no issues with this beer interesting at the very least, I'm not sure if this is something I would drink all day in the hot summer sun but it would be an ideal treat sitting in the back yard at sundown

thanks hoser for this one and the glass I poured it in to for that matter. my only regret with this beer is I have no BBQ to pair with it and no campfire to hypnotize me while I drink it

Photo of zhooker
4.14/5  rDev +9.8%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

From tap to a 12oz white wine glass. Dark amber and opaque, with a clean filtered look. Healthy head that dissipated quickly, but left some pretty lacing.

The smell is, well, unmistakeably a rauchbier aroma. The following comment may seem sacrilegious, and it definitely reveals my former teenage snack food preferences -- but the first thing that always comes to mind when I whiff a rauchbier is the classic Slim Jim. Fortunately this is not accompanied by a screaming Macho Man Randy Savage. Back to the aroma -- smoky, meaty, a little sour.

The smoke owns the flavors here. Not nearly as strong or forward as the great Bamberg Aecht Schlenkerla Rauchbier, but definitely thick and meaty.

Smooth mouthfeel, surprisingly crisp on the tongue.

This was my first from Dieu du Ciel, and I was overall impressed. I would much prefer this to the Aecht Schlenkerla Rauchbier, which is a little too overwhelming to enjoy an entire bottle of. However, the smokiness is still very much more pronounced than something like Stone's Smoked Porter, or other beers where the smoke flavor is just an addition (opposed to the centerpiece). Would only recommend to those familiar with rauchbiers, but because of its mildness, serves as an excellent introduction to the style.

Photo of PicoPapa
4.12/5  rDev +9.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Taken from notes from a recent trip to Montreal and Vermont. This beer was classified as a Rauchbier at the Brewpub.

On tap at Dieu du Ciel!. Pours a dark mahogany color with an inch of frothy head. Lots of lacing. The aroma reminds me of a campfire. Smokey malts with an almost meaty smoke aroma, kind of like bacon. The taste is of the smokey malts and earth. Burnt leaves and a campfire. Dry with some charred oak. The mouthfeel is somewhat light and thin which help makes this brew more drinkable considering the amount of smoke flavor. I love this style of beer but haven't been able to find many really good ones. Overall, this is the best Rauchbier I have ever had (thus far).

Photo of bobsy
4.07/5  rDev +8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 5

TJ hooked me up with this one - thanks man! Shared it with Eric and some delicious burgers.

Pours a deep oak with a small cream coloured film that persists and leaves a few lace spots. Unlike a rauchbier like Schlenkerla, this is less meaty in its smoke aroma, and more like a campfire. Light rye bread underneath, but mostly just smoke and minerals, which is good for the style. Smoke and ash dominate against lightly bready malts and a mineral backdrop. Its strength lies in its simplicity - there's not much there, but what there is works. Body is a touch on the light side, but makes the whole experience highly drinkable.

Not bad at all, and a nice pairing with our food. Its certainly very drinkable for a fairly one-dimensional beer.

Photo of papat444
4.05/5  rDev +7.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Enjoyed last night with my supper, hamburgers from the barbecue & macaroni salad.

Poured from a 341ml. bottle, bottled March 2010 (or maybe Feb. as the notch is ambiguous).

Appearance: Massive head, light tan in color. Opaque brown body that looks dark and inviting.

Smell: I get lots of smoke though not overbearing with traces of hickory and beef jerky. My wife smells smoked gouda which is quite true.

Taste: Good smokiness that isn't overdone. Wisps of wood and more gouda with a solid malt body. Different but good stuff.

Mouthfeel: Really good balance. It could have been overdone for the smoke but instead a great complicity is struck. Average carbonation and a very comfortable body in the palate.

Drinkability: Yes, i'd have another. I liked it enough to go back again for this beer.

Overall: I'm not usually attracted to smoke beer but i found this beer to be really good and would recommend it if you can handle a moderate smoky presence.

Photo of ritzkiss
4.02/5  rDev +6.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

12oz bottle shared by Bobsy, thanks man!

Pours a light rusty brown with a smattering of bubbles which stick around, seems a little light for what I would go for...

Smoke jumps out of the nose, more campfire than smoked meat, just a hint of hickory and ash. A bit of minerally malt, just a hint of biscuit.

Very well integrated smoke, doesn't overwhelm like some. Helped out by a nice grassy, minerally hop bitterness in the finish which, when paired with the malt base, almost reminds me of an alt + smoke. A little thin in the body but the lack of heft makes this more of a plain ol' drinker, especially with the well integrated smoke. Would gladly drink it again, paired well with BBQ. Thanks Robbo!

Photo of kwjd
4/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a light brown colour with a finger of tan head. Some mild lacing around the glass. Nice head retention until the end. Smells of campfire/chimney smoke with some roasted malt and chocolate. This seems to be a smoked porter, or at least similar enough to that. Very smooth carbonation level. A nice beer and anyone that likes smokey beers should try this.

Photo of kjyost
4/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Consumed Nov. 19, 2011 at Inaugural Bottle Share. From notes. Thanks Nicole!

Pours brown and clearish with a light tan ring that doesn't last. Smells of smoky meat and BBQ. The body begins with a very BBQ finish with burnt meat notes in it. Lingers with bacon. No perceptible bitterness, but the smoke lasts forever on the palate. I could imagine enjoying this beer with a good pulled pork...

Photo of Goldorak
3.99/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Appearance: Copper brownish, and relatively translucent. A very appealing stream of frothy bubbles dancing on top.

Smell: Very pleasing woody smoke, not at Schlenkerla levels but enough to satisfy Rauch-heads like me, without alienating those who are a bit sheepish or never been exposed to this style before. Really interesting grainy aspect to it as well, and a tiny bit ashy, but not at an unpalatable degree.

Taste: The smoke factor is spread out very well on the palate. It hits you solidly at first, balances out in the middle with a very solid malt structure and finishes long with hickory traces. They should brew this more often.

Photo of ZorPrime
3.99/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A new bottled beer from DDC... I'm so happy.

Dark color beer. It is dark brown with a creamy head on top. As usual with this brewery, the head stick well to the glass. The aroma is smoked!... wow I like this. I get some bacon in there too. No hops. On the taste side, it is smoked again. Everywhere from start to finish. More like a smoked wood than bacon, however. The taste is better than the smell. A bitterness in the end, however it is not strong. One good thing is the taste lingers in the mouth for a good amount of time. We note also the carbonation in the mouth. A good smoked beer.

Photo of dgilks
3.98/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Clear mahogany colour with a big, fluffy, light tan head. Good head retention.

Double smoked bacon with some burning rubber. Nice and smoking. Mild fruitiness. Good.

Smoky malt with some slightly tart fruitiness. This rates with some of the German Rauchbiers I've had. I like it.

Medium light body with moderate carbonation. The fizz just helps to make the smokiness pop.

A really nice Rauchbier. Obviously this style isn't to everyone's taste but I think it works really well and is a delicious example of the style.

Photo of cbutova
3.97/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Love smoked anything, had to find this in Montreal. Peluso had some bottles, yay.

A- Pours with a light brown hue into a pint glass. Light tan head forms to a nice size and has a foamy texture. Retention is OK and lace is spotty.

S- Intesne, like an Islay Scotch. Seriously strong notes of leather, campfire, burning wood, BBQ, all things smoky. Some caramel and fruit in the very background.

T- Not as intensely smoky as the nose but still very strong. Most of the flavor is smoke, burning campfires and leather. The other part is caramel malts, yeast spice and dark fruits.

MF- Foamy body with a smooth overall feel. I hate to add smoky here but it kind of has a bitter, acrid spike on the palate.

If you like smoke, you get a ton here. Kind of takes an Islay malt flavor profile on. If you don't like smoke, go elsewhere.

Photo of Sammy
3.92/5  rDev +4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours lightly smokey yellow with lasting three-eighths of an inch lasting head. Slightly smokey aroma. very good taste, with controlled smoked malt, and a sweet spicey finish that satisfies. Average mouthfeel, smooth, Very drinkable.A lovely smoked beer, thanks Luc!

Photo of jrenihan
3.92/5  rDev +4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bottled April 2011. Older than I expected- hope its OK!

Beer is a very dark caramel colour, brown but with orange elements. A small beige head.

Smell is quite smokey and peaty. Hard to get beneath, but there seems to be some caramel malt, a bit of a toffee scent. All of the reviews that mention smoked ham or bacon are pretty accurate.

The smokey peat is very prominent in the taste, but is more willing to share than the nose is. Accompanied by caramel, some dark fruit, a bit of a grassy flavour. Finish, like the start, is quite smokey.

Medium bodied, moderate carbonation. Quite smooth.

Overall, nice stuff. The taste is not as overwhelmingly smokey as the nose suggests. Still pretty intense, but more balanced and quite enjoyable.

Photo of jzeilinger
3.92/5  rDev +4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

First of all, thank you to papat444 for this bottle. Cheers!

A - Pours a dark ruby chestnut color, I tried to keep the sediment in the bottle but managed to get some of the floaties in the glass which is no big deal. The head was minimal on this beer and leaves a very fine light aramel colored ring around the top of the tulip glass. Carbonation is sluggish.

S - The dominating aroma is smoked bacon/meat and a some dark roasted malts. The smokiness reminds me of a campfire setting.

T - Follows the nose with a nice smokiness from start to finish with roasted malts. I purposely sat on this bottle for many, many months and it still retains a nice smoke character. The malt has a small amount of nuttiness and there's some dark roasted caramel.

M - Light medium body with gentle carbonation on the tongue.

O - I haven't had many Rauch style beers and this was very enjoyable and refreshingly different to what I normally drink. I paired this with pepperjack cheese and it was nice combo.

Photo of Agold
3.92/5  rDev +4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Picked this up on a trip to montreal. Completely different beer now from the frist time I had it. The beer is almost porter-like in how dark it is. It has a nice dense white head which lingers and leaves a bit of lacing. This beer smells like eating bacon and beef jerky at a campfire. There is a little bit of grainyness and nuttiness but really it is all about the smoke here. The taste just has more and more hickory bacon smokiness with a mild nutty sweetness to lend a bit of balance. The mouthfeel is a little light and is also lacking a bit of carbonation. Would definitely benefit from a bit more. Overall, this beer is an experience more than anything else. Huge smokiness when fresh. I would love to see something like this as a bigger beer, but I would be afraid I couldn't handle any more smoke.

Photo of SebD
3.89/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: It has a nice dark ruby/brown color to it. It has a nice creamy beige head that dies down moderately and leaves some lacing.

Smell: The aromas definitely give out hints of smoke (mix of campfire & smoked bacon), perhaps some caramel and toffee but it's hard to tell with all the smokiness.

Taste: Like the aromas, it has a some sweet caramelly malts upfront followed by tons of smoke and some faint dark fruit notes.

Mouthfeel: It has a low/medium carbonation with a nice overall balance and feel.

Drinkability: It's a very smooth drinkable beer accompanied with good flavors and aromas.

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