Charbonniere - Brasserie Dieu Du Ciel

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92 Ratings
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Ratings: 92
Reviews: 55
rAvg: 3.77
pDev: 11.67%
Wants: 15
Gots: 6 | FT: 1
Brewed by:
Brasserie Dieu Du Ciel visit their website
Quebec, Canada

Style | ABV
Smoked Beer |  5.40% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 05-03-2002

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Ratings: 92 | Reviews: 55
Photo of leaddog
3.66/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Appearance - Pours a chestnut brown with a finger of bubbly head.

Smell - smoked malts, smoked meat aromas, campfire smoke.

Taste - Dominated by the smoked malts followed by a hint of smoked meat and campfire aromas.

Mouthfeel - Medium bodied with moderate carbonation. Finishes dry with a lingering smokiness.

Overall - A smoked beer that has the elements in place. However, I feel they weren't used to their full capacity. The aroma I felt was far superior to the taste.

Photo of chinchill
3.44/5  rDev -8.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Shared bottle at RBWG-2015.

SMOKY NOSE with smokier flavor. Some dark fruits. Nice smooth body.

Photo of TheDoctor
3.74/5  rDev -0.8%

SERVICE: Bottle
BOTTLED ON: 09/06/14

A:
Pours a clear ruddy brown with a finger or so of fairly thick looking beige head that never amounts to much. Meh retention; chicken pox spots of lacing. (3.5)

S:
Sweet and woody. Smoky with some think caramel smells and a touch of astringency. (3.75)

T:
Clean and malty. Caramel, wood, hard water, brittle astringency, lingering campfire feel/smell/taste in my sinuses. (3.75)

M:
Thin and coating with a lingering aromatic finish and a light body. (3.5)

O:
Pretty decent beer.
I find smoked beers to be a bit hit-or-miss, but was curious to try this one when it showed up at the store I go to.
It looks alright, but won't win any beauty contests. The aroma is good (Slim Jim's). Oh yeah... It is a pretty drinkable beer and has a nice aromatic quality to the taste. Neither the best nor worst (either from DDC or when looking at smoked beers in general).
Would have it again if offered; if you randomly come across it, go nuts, otherwise don't sweat it. (3.75)

Photo of peensteen
3.83/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Reddish brown, ring of white head, some lace. Smell is smokey, meaty with lots of BBQ and campfire aromas, faint touch of peat, more or less a malty smokey affair all the way through. Taste is like the nose, smoke and malt, BBQ and meaty flavours, just a touch of lightly salty peat, more campfire aftertaste. Medium carbonation, medium body, good feel. Solid and worth drinking again, basically a second rate Schlenkerla which is quite the compliment for this style.

Photo of Rutager
3.64/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Big thank you to SebD for this and all the others in a great recent CANBIF box. Cheers dude!

Appearance. Pours a deep amber with some nice red hues, and a finger of creamy light-khaki head. So far so good!

Smell. Meaty, thick smoke. Almost has a salty fried pork fat thing going on. Just a bit of grainy caramel in behind.

Taste. Nice smoke, not too strong and not meaty like the smell. A bit of light sweet caramel malt and even a bit of herby hops in there ...maybe not, but there's a slight bitterness for sure.

Mouthfeel. Medium body, medium carbonation.

Overall. Nice for the style. The smoke is in check which is always nice and the beer comes through. Thanks again SebD!

Photo of SebD
3.89/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: It has a nice dark ruby/brown color to it. It has a nice creamy beige head that dies down moderately and leaves some lacing.

Smell: The aromas definitely give out hints of smoke (mix of campfire & smoked bacon), perhaps some caramel and toffee but it's hard to tell with all the smokiness.

Taste: Like the aromas, it has a some sweet caramelly malts upfront followed by tons of smoke and some faint dark fruit notes.

Mouthfeel: It has a low/medium carbonation with a nice overall balance and feel.

Drinkability: It's a very smooth drinkable beer accompanied with good flavors and aromas.

Photo of Haydn-Juby
3.85/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

A: A clear transparent brown with a little bit of off white head.

S: Smoke. Delicious, delicious smoke.

T: Smokey malts come through as dominant, not overpowering but still pretty dominant. A little bit of some kind of sweet caramel malt also peeks its head providing a subtle change in flavor and depth to the character of the beer. Bitterness is also nicely done. Flavors of ham and other smoked meats instantly come to mind but the beer elements are still there proving that you're not just drinking liquid smoke.

M: The mouthfeel is nicely formed and its not overly thick or thin.

O: Pretty good beer. I found it a bit more potent than Aecht Schlenkerla, which has sort of become the front all smoked beers are now based on, for me anyways. Whereas i found Aecht sessionable or a everyday beer this was a bit more bold, but non the less an astounding beer and kudos to Dieu du Ciel for another great beer.

Photo of MasterSki
3.73/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Thanks to Sean for this one. Served in a snifter.

A - White foam settles to a thin collar, wisps, and minimal lace. Very dark brown body that's transparent when held to the light. Could use more head volume, but otherwise quite attractive.

S - Smoked malts, honey-drizzled ham, a bit of cocoa. Not particularly complex, but on point for the style.

T - The taste isn't quite as good, as the balancing malt sweetness is a bit overwhelmed by char, smoke, and burnt malt flavors. Gets a tad bitter and astringent after a while, although it's still in the acceptable range for a smoked beer.

M - Zesty carbonation, dry texture with lingering smoke on the palate. Medium body, and predictably no alcohol warmth.

D - A decent smoked beer. I'd drink it again if there were limited options available, but I can think of plenty of smoked beers or Dieu du Ciel offerings I'd much prefer. Appreciate the lower ABV.

Photo of PicoPapa
4.12/5  rDev +9.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Taken from notes from a recent trip to Montreal and Vermont. This beer was classified as a Rauchbier at the Brewpub.

On tap at Dieu du Ciel!. Pours a dark mahogany color with an inch of frothy head. Lots of lacing. The aroma reminds me of a campfire. Smokey malts with an almost meaty smoke aroma, kind of like bacon. The taste is of the smokey malts and earth. Burnt leaves and a campfire. Dry with some charred oak. The mouthfeel is somewhat light and thin which help makes this brew more drinkable considering the amount of smoke flavor. I love this style of beer but haven't been able to find many really good ones. Overall, this is the best Rauchbier I have ever had (thus far).

Photo of Foudebiere
3.44/5  rDev -8.8%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poor from a 341ml bottle.

A: Nice brown beer with almost not head, I didn't have time to taste it.
S: Smoke, smoke, smoke!!!
T: Of course the primary taste is smoke, but it's not overbearing like the smell could let us think. It's a little sweet at the end.
MF: It seems that I have ashes in my mouth, but surprisingly, it's good!

Photo of jrenihan
3.92/5  rDev +4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bottled April 2011. Older than I expected- hope its OK!

Beer is a very dark caramel colour, brown but with orange elements. A small beige head.

Smell is quite smokey and peaty. Hard to get beneath, but there seems to be some caramel malt, a bit of a toffee scent. All of the reviews that mention smoked ham or bacon are pretty accurate.

The smokey peat is very prominent in the taste, but is more willing to share than the nose is. Accompanied by caramel, some dark fruit, a bit of a grassy flavour. Finish, like the start, is quite smokey.

Medium bodied, moderate carbonation. Quite smooth.

Overall, nice stuff. The taste is not as overwhelmingly smokey as the nose suggests. Still pretty intense, but more balanced and quite enjoyable.

Photo of cbutova
3.97/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Love smoked anything, had to find this in Montreal. Peluso had some bottles, yay.

A- Pours with a light brown hue into a pint glass. Light tan head forms to a nice size and has a foamy texture. Retention is OK and lace is spotty.

S- Intesne, like an Islay Scotch. Seriously strong notes of leather, campfire, burning wood, BBQ, all things smoky. Some caramel and fruit in the very background.

T- Not as intensely smoky as the nose but still very strong. Most of the flavor is smoke, burning campfires and leather. The other part is caramel malts, yeast spice and dark fruits.

MF- Foamy body with a smooth overall feel. I hate to add smoky here but it kind of has a bitter, acrid spike on the palate.

If you like smoke, you get a ton here. Kind of takes an Islay malt flavor profile on. If you don't like smoke, go elsewhere.

Photo of jzeilinger
3.92/5  rDev +4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

First of all, thank you to papat444 for this bottle. Cheers!

A - Pours a dark ruby chestnut color, I tried to keep the sediment in the bottle but managed to get some of the floaties in the glass which is no big deal. The head was minimal on this beer and leaves a very fine light aramel colored ring around the top of the tulip glass. Carbonation is sluggish.

S - The dominating aroma is smoked bacon/meat and a some dark roasted malts. The smokiness reminds me of a campfire setting.

T - Follows the nose with a nice smokiness from start to finish with roasted malts. I purposely sat on this bottle for many, many months and it still retains a nice smoke character. The malt has a small amount of nuttiness and there's some dark roasted caramel.

M - Light medium body with gentle carbonation on the tongue.

O - I haven't had many Rauch style beers and this was very enjoyable and refreshingly different to what I normally drink. I paired this with pepperjack cheese and it was nice combo.

Photo of kjyost
4/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Consumed Nov. 19, 2011 at Inaugural Bottle Share. From notes. Thanks Nicole!

Pours brown and clearish with a light tan ring that doesn't last. Smells of smoky meat and BBQ. The body begins with a very BBQ finish with burnt meat notes in it. Lingers with bacon. No perceptible bitterness, but the smoke lasts forever on the palate. I could imagine enjoying this beer with a good pulled pork...

Photo of ADZA
3.65/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a dark ruby hue which leaves a two finger head that dissapates to leave an outer rim of lacing that also coats the sides of the glass,the smell is smoked ham,roasty malts and a touch of herbal hops,the mouthfeel is light bodied and has tastes of smoked malts,stonefruits,a touch of cherry,caramel and is finished with a spicy dryness and overall this is a nice smoked beer that lets the other flavours shine through but for me i like a little more smoke and in saying that this would be a nice crossover for the person who doesnt like a full smokey SB cheers.

Photo of CrazyDavros
3.72/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Pours brown with a large lasting head.
Immediately noticeable in the aroma is smoked ham, campfire and bacon in large quantities. Underneath is some barely noticeable caramel.
The smoky character is nor as overpowering as a flavour, allowing sweet caramel, nutty malt and a soft roasty character to come into play.
Carbonation is a little full on.
Got nothing on Aecht Schlenkerla, but nice stuff none the less.

Photo of dgilks
3.98/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Clear mahogany colour with a big, fluffy, light tan head. Good head retention.

Double smoked bacon with some burning rubber. Nice and smoking. Mild fruitiness. Good.

Smoky malt with some slightly tart fruitiness. This rates with some of the German Rauchbiers I've had. I like it.

Medium light body with moderate carbonation. The fizz just helps to make the smokiness pop.

A really nice Rauchbier. Obviously this style isn't to everyone's taste but I think it works really well and is a delicious example of the style.

Photo of liamt07
4.18/5  rDev +10.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle courtesy of freud, bottled March 2011. Into a tulip, thanks Fred! Love me some smoke.

Pours a deep violet/burgundy, creamy offwhite cap that laces well. Nose is a rich meaty and woody smokiness, with some faint underlying sweetness. Taste is a slight change of pace as smoke and rich caramel notes present themselves in unison, taking turns presenting themselves on the palate. Great malt flavour. Smooth mouthfeel, with moderate lingering smoke and caramel sweetness. Heavy medium in body and a lower medium carbonation. Very drinkable and solid, if on the sweeter side, smoked offering.

Photo of dragonWhale
4.16/5  rDev +10.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

From the depths of the fouled cellar..bottled 3/10. It is time to drink this!
Pours brown, dark amber highlights, a creamy head, and the bbq pit leaps out at me. Some brilliant lace trails. Smells brilliant, the smoke is big but there's some sweet malt poking out.
Excellent taste, too. Peaty, smoky, but not overpowering, not caustic in the throat. Sweet malt fades into the smoke, leaving a pleasant smoky aftertaste. This is a really nice beer. First time I've had it and with the year on it, it's really held up well. Now to seek it out fresh..the new chore upon me.

Photo of Agold
3.92/5  rDev +4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Picked this up on a trip to montreal. Completely different beer now from the frist time I had it. The beer is almost porter-like in how dark it is. It has a nice dense white head which lingers and leaves a bit of lacing. This beer smells like eating bacon and beef jerky at a campfire. There is a little bit of grainyness and nuttiness but really it is all about the smoke here. The taste just has more and more hickory bacon smokiness with a mild nutty sweetness to lend a bit of balance. The mouthfeel is a little light and is also lacking a bit of carbonation. Would definitely benefit from a bit more. Overall, this beer is an experience more than anything else. Huge smokiness when fresh. I would love to see something like this as a bigger beer, but I would be afraid I couldn't handle any more smoke.

Photo of Sammy
3.92/5  rDev +4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours lightly smokey yellow with lasting three-eighths of an inch lasting head. Slightly smokey aroma. very good taste, with controlled smoked malt, and a sweet spicey finish that satisfies. Average mouthfeel, smooth, Very drinkable.A lovely smoked beer, thanks Luc!

Photo of ludachris
3.72/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

The body is sludge brown with murky orange highlights peaking through. Quite hazy with miniscule bits of suspended sediment revealing themselves around the edges of the beer, where the light shines through. A good finger's worth of cream coloured head retains nicely and leaves brush strokes of patchy lace behind.

For a 5.4% beer, this one really packs a punch. Strong notes of pork, hickory, charred wood, sublte toasted malts and light caramel pour out of the glass. The meaty character is quite pronounced and borders being sweet. The caramel notes, subtle as they may be, play very well with the rest of the beer.

The sweetness from the caramel and toasted malts come in more forcefully, nearly eqaulling the beer's meaty base. Pork and hickory make their presence known towards the end with a welcomed smokey edge that asserts its presence for some time after the finish.

The mouthfeel seemed to be lacking most, taking away from what could have been a hefty and satisfying smoked beer by being both thin and watery with an underwhelming amount of carbonation. Easy to drink? Sure, but a fuller body would have made it a real pleasure to do so.

DDC would sit comfortably in my top 8 Canadian breweries but this beer doesn't do much for its position there. It seems to be one of those cases where a great beer was turned into a good beer by lacking in just one aspect; the mouthfeel. If making a fuller body entails increasing the alcohol content, I'd say it's more than worth it. This one's worth a try but can't contend with many other DDC offerings.

Photo of kwjd
4/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a light brown colour with a finger of tan head. Some mild lacing around the glass. Nice head retention until the end. Smells of campfire/chimney smoke with some roasted malt and chocolate. This seems to be a smoked porter, or at least similar enough to that. Very smooth carbonation level. A nice beer and anyone that likes smokey beers should try this.

Photo of mikesgroove
4.22/5  rDev +11.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Decided that I was going to go on a fridge cleaning for the next week before I need to take a break for a while. Went with this mixed sixer last night in an attempt to clean out some lighter fare. Served cold and poured into a pint glass, this was consumed on 11/03/2010.

A new one from a brewery I have always had great luck with, I jumped at the chance to try this one. Pours out a nice dark brown with a head of tan that reaches a height of around an inch or so before settling back down and leaving some nice lacing along the sides.

Aroma is full of campfire smoke right off the bat. I had been expecting it but it really came off quite strong and full. Really nicely done here I have to admit. Nice notes of light chocolate and big roasted malts are always a welcome treat. Flavor carries this over quite well as the chocolate and earthy notes lay underneath that wonderful smoky campfire like flavor that leaves a long finish with rich development across the tongue.

Overall a very fine example of the style and one that is extremely drinkable. I had no issues with putting this one down quickly and easily.

Photo of StephenRich
3.33/5  rDev -11.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 4

Charbonniere is French for "Coal Woman", and while this beer tastes very little like a woman, it is reminiscent of coal. Really what it is, is a smoke beer. Before kilning and indirect heating was used to dry and malt barley grains, they were smoked over direct fires creating a very distinct and smoky beer. Eventually when maltsters mastered indirect heating, brewers were able to use unsmoked malted barley creating a cleaner, more elegant beer capable of taking on a new variety of flavors.

The old smoked ales though do still exist. They are most famous in Bamberg, the venerable smoke beer capital of the world. Dieu Du Ciel's Charbonniere uses smoked malts hailing from Bamberg to recreate a soft smoky flavor in the beer with a rich malt backbone. It has been brewed since 1999 at Dieu Du Ciel's brewpub and fits perfectly with the astonish lineup of beer's they offer.

The Charbonniere comes in 355ml bottles at 5% abv, and as far as I have seen, they are only available in Quebec. I opened it up cool around 8C (45F) and poured it into a tall tulip glass. The pour was big and frothy forming a lush 2 inch tan brown head with streak of bobbles and a pillowy, creamy cap. The beer stood and amber maroon with glimmers of deep red garnet, purple and hints of gold. It was slightly opaque, and very close to black, showing great dark brick browns. Great depth of color and intensity drew me into this beer.

The nose is classic rauchbier with smooth smoky notes of BBQ, smoked sausage, char and firewood. The smoke is not overpowering and lends into some warm malt sweetness getting close to toffee, but more like slightly burnt brown sugar. No hops are noticeable here, but it does smell fresh and quenching. You should never dismiss a rauchbier from being supremely quenching, they can refresh your palate with the best of pale ales!

A nice big gulp of the Charbonniere reveals smooth and silky smoke flavors guided along by light caramel malts, hints of spice and pepper, and a clean very dry hop finish. The beer is elegant and delicate, and not all showy and blunt. The smoke is soft and smooth gliding over your tongue just glancing at wood fires, and then moves into your cheeks showing off smooth and softly rich flavors of BBQ, char and smoked meat. Hints of pepper and spice make their way along the sides of your tongue and tickle the back of your throat.

Malt does play the primary role here and is the spine and nervous system of this beer. It is smooth and lightly sweet with soft biscuit and caramel on the palate, but an overall dry, slightly sweet feeling. Hops show soft herbal bitterness that touches in at the back of the beer and rounds it out nicely. It is not nearly as potent as the majority of rauchbiers that I have had, but does exemplify great flavors in a delicate and quenching soft smoke beer.

A clean and crisp finish makes the Charbonniere a very easy drinking beer and would pair perfectly with anything off the grill, or even a smooth cigar.

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Charbonniere from Brasserie Dieu Du Ciel
85 out of 100 based on 92 ratings.