Juliet - Goose Island Beer Co.

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Reviews: 336
Hads: 1,473
rAvg: 4.18
pDev: 8.13%
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Goose Island Beer Co. visit their website
Illinois, United States

Style | ABV
American Wild Ale |  8.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 10-15-2008

A rye beer aged in French oak (Robert Craig Cabernet Sauvignon) with blackberries and Brettanomyces.
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Photo of drabmuh
4.27/5  rDev +2.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle opened by Paul (Lunch) at a small tasting. Thanks Paul. Beer is amber to ruby red and forms a pink head of small bubbles. Leaves some lacing on the glass. Looks good.

Aroma is GREAT! Lactic with some leather and mild acetic notes to it. Very good.

Beer is thin and moderately acidic. The sourness comes through but its more subtle than the aroma would lead you to believe. Body builds on you and there is some growing tartness in the back. Overall its a good example of a brett beer. (492 characters)

Photo of superspak
4.32/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22 ounce bottle into tulip glass, bottled on 12/11/2010. Pours lightly cloudy red-orange color with a 1-2 finger foamy off white head with decent retention, that reduces to a thin cap that lingers. Light spotty soapy lacing clings around the glass, with a good amount of streaming carbonation retaining the head. Aromas of big tart blackberry, raspberry, green apple, red grape, oak, clove, red wine vinegar, hay, straw, pepper, musty brett funk, leather, rye, toast, and yeast earthiness. Fantastic aromas with great complexity and balance of tart fruit, fruity/funky brett, malt, and barrel notes; with great strength. Taste of tart blackberry, raspberry, green apple, red grape, oak, clove, red wine vinegar, hay, straw, pepper, musty brett funk, leather, rye, toast, and yeast earthiness. Good amount of fruity acidic tartness on the finish; with lingering notes of tart blackberry, raspberry, green apple, red grape, oak, clove, red wine vinegar, hay, straw, musty funk, rye, pepper, and yeast earthiness on the finish for a while. Incredible complexity and balance of tart fruits, wine barrel, and big fruity/funky brett presence; with a great malt/acidity balance and zero cloying flavors after the finish. Medium carbonation and body; with a very smooth, crisp, and acidic mouthfeel that is nice. Alcohol is very well hidden with only a slight warming present after the finish. Overall this is an incredible fruited sour ale with 3 years of age. Big brett presence with great balance of wine barrel and blackberry fruit flavors; and very smooth to sip on with the balanced acidity. A highly enjoyable offering. (1,618 characters)

Photo of mothman
4.35/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Had this on Darkness Day

Bottled Aug. 14, 2009

Pours a light peach pint color. The head is white with a pink hue to it.

Aroma: tart fruits, very sour, raspberries, strawberries, and more fruit.

Taste: Very sour again with a lot of raspberries. Big strawberry flavor. Fresh hops. Very nice and well done.

Mouthfeel: Fresh feel to it and very refreshing. Very clean. Medium bodied. High, but good carbonation. Sour and tart.

Overall, another one of those beers that I just want more of. Easy drinking and a ton of nice sour flavors. I can't wait to see what age does to this one. (584 characters)

Photo of Mora2000
4.07/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Thanks to Exiled for sharing this bottle.

2009 vintage. The beer pours an orange-pink color with a large white head that has a pink tint. The aroma is pretty tart with some blackberry and oak. The flavor is not near as tart as the aroma led me to believe it would be. I get some oak with a hint of blackberries as well as some lemon tartness. The fruit comes out more as the beer warms up. Fizzy carbonation and a medium mouthfeel. The beer is very prickly on the tongue. The beer reminded me a little bit of LeBleu, but that may just be the mouthfeel and carbonation. I wish the carbonation was toned down a bit. (614 characters)

Photo of stakem
4.07/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Several samples of this care of CaptinRedBeard, thank you Corey for sharing. Poured into a 6oz snifter this brew appears a light almost orange color with a redish ruby hue all about it. The head appears as even a redish stained cap of foam that is more than a finger strong with quite a bit of fizz to it. Lacing sticks in patches and slips to just a layering of bubbles around the interior perimeter of the glass.

The nose of this brew is dominated by brett. Loads of earthy bretted goodness smelling of wet leather run all through the nose of this brew. Some slight, almost cheesy suggestions are evident. Once the glass was emptied and before another sample was poured, the smell of berries was left clinging inside the glass. It was a very fresh smelling fruity scent reminescent of raspberry and it is a shame it is hidden beneath the brett while the glass is full.

The taste of this brew is very carbonated. Continuous swirls attempt to release the carbonation and tame this brew down a little. It takes some effort to make it drinkable but it is worth it. A flavor of brett runs rampid through this brew with a taste of wet leather and minor puckering quality. Quite drying finish with earthy notes that are almost grassy and cheese like that hang inside the mouth. This is a light bodied brew that is excessively carbonated. Overall though it was quite enjoyable. (1,373 characters)

Photo of Huhzubendah
4.47/5  rDev +6.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Paul shared this at a recent tasting. Thanks man!

A: Ruby and orange hues with a medium-sized white head filled with tiny bubbles.

S: Fantastic aromas of brettanomyces and cherries.

T: This beer is not incredibly sour, but refreshingly tart. The taste is world class. I thoroughly enjoyed my glass and savored every drop. Blackberry flavors shine.

M: Lactic start and acetic in the finish. High carbonation in the feel with a little kick at the end.

D: A really great beer. Highly recommended. (498 characters)

Photo of Gueuzedude
4.15/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Jan 2009 Bottle; Sampled November 2009
This pours into my large Tripel Karmeliet tulip with a two-finger thick, pale beige colored head. It is a murky amber hue that shows a honey-like, somewhat clear hue when held up to the light. The aroma is funky, musty and reminds me of an overly ripe, funky farmhouse cheese, perhaps even some moldy toe-jam character as well as a musky, goat-like, huge Brettanomyces funkification; this last being the most dominant aromatic note. Hints of fruit are just noticeable underneath the Brettanomyces onslaught; berry seed like aromatics, musk berry (almost elderberry like), tannic berry skin aromatics; this doesn't have a dominant, clean or bright berry character to it, which is usually what I like to find in a fruit beer. The fruit character evokes thoughts of cherries, some rose and perhaps a touch of Brandy more than it makes me think of raspberries. There are some pepper-like aromatics here, some spicy wood character as well as a touch of toasted oak that is noticeable at times.

My first impression of the flavor is that this has a fizzy carbonation that is mixed with a lightly bracing tartness. This is quite sour and has a carbonic bite to it in the finish as well. This is quite dry feeling, with the finish leaving an oak-flavored, slightly astringent, palate drying character that lingers on the tongue. This couples with a slightly phenolic, musty cotton ball note. The fruitiness is quite dry with a slightly tannic fruit-skin character, some grass-like berry-seed flavors and the tartness evokes hints of sour berry flavors. There is a firm oak character that provides structure to this beer; it is perhaps the most noticeable character here, especially after the palate adjusts to the lactic acidity. The oak boosts the body / palate presence and provides flavors of fresh cut wood -planks as well as a sometimes Bourbon like spiciness. The oak and acid combination make me think of a white wine at times, though there is a touch of berry-fruit flavors here too. Overall this has a medium'ish body to it that is not heavy and even somewhat light, but it has a palate presence that can even be creamy in texture at times.

As the beer warms up the berry notes come out more in the nose; even some jam-like notes become noticeable (a sort of cranberry, cherry and blackberry mixed jam of sorts). My second pour is a bit more murky and the aroma even gets more funkified in its wild farmhouse cheesiness. The funk is here in the flavor, though it is not nearly as noticeable as it is in the aroma; musty, somewhat musky flavors and a butyric bite all contribute to the flavor profile.

This is an interesting, funky beer that is quite enjoyable. The oak can be a bit much at times and despite the complexity, it isn't as well balanced as I would like. This is a very solid offering though, but I definitely prefer Sofie to this beer. The funkiness of the nose is much appreciated by this lover of funky beers though. (2,973 characters)

Photo of billab914
3.7/5  rDev -11.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

2009 vintage poured from a 22oz bottle into my Allagash glass. It poured reddish amber in color with a full and active white head overflowing from the glass.

The aroma has a good dose of sourness to it. I get some sharp, acidic notes followed by some tart, fruity flavors. I get a little of a blackberry or cherry flavor coming out as well as just a hint of the oak barrel.

The taste shows more of the sharp sourness to it up front. It's a little acidic but not too bad. In the finish more of the fruity, blackberry, cherry like flavors come out and bring some tartness with them. A good amount of earthy Brett shows in the finish as well. It's more towards the acidic and tart side than the funky sour side. It's good, but didn't have the depth of some of the best in the style.

The mouthfeel is medium bodied for the style and carbonation is very high. Overall it was a pretty good beer, but not one of the best of the style. It felt lacking depth at times and a little acidic as well. I enjoyed it, but the Cisco sour I had earlier was much better. (1,057 characters)

Photo of smakawhat
4.28/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured from the bottle, vintage 2012, into a tulip glass.

Real gorgeous body color, a clear to mild opaque red raspberry and orange peach hued body. Head doesn't form much but leaves barely a collar, settles like a nice wine. Looks like an amazing lambic, love this color.

Nose is red fruits of cherry and raspberry. Jammy. Mild tartness, off the pour it seemed strong from a distance, but closer it's subdued. No sense of heat, or real punching yeast, just like a good solid lambic.

Bent first hints with a tomato V8 quality. As it warms up, more of the fruit action comes in with a nice tartness. Mouthfeel is very crisp, prickly, but not detracting. No sense of heat alcohol, or sharp yeast. Good acidity without any craziness.

Seriously, while the tomato action really reminds me of Zwanze 2011, this brew could easily pass for a solid Cantillon. Very impressed (869 characters)

Photo of Alieniloquium
4.1/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

650 mL bottle poured into a chalice. Bottle dated 1/26/2012.

Appearance - Pinkish. Cloudy with a nice white head. Settles to a white collar.

Smell - Vinous winey acidity. Red wine notes. Musty and maybe some brett.

Taste - Fruity grape sourness. More vinous wine notes. Pleasantly tart, but not intense by any means. Oaky and malty in the finish.

Mouthfeel - A touch sweet from the fruitiness, but the tartness balances it out. Medium bodied.

Overall - Solid. Better than Lolita by a fair margin. Muted fruit notes yield a nice sour beer behind it. (553 characters)

Photo of johnnnniee
4.07/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Received in trade from ajzy, thanks for the opportunity!
Pours a lightly hazy deep golden color with a huge fluffy bone white head that that dissipates as quickly as the bubbles in a glass of ginger ale. Tart and funky fruit dominate the aroma here. Lemons, cherries, and berries with lots of lactic sourness and funk make up most of the nose with hints of brown sugar deep in the background. The flavor puckers your face up front with lemons and tart cherries. Light brown sugar malt sneaks in before the citric return and burns a hole deep into your nether region. Medium body with a moderate level of carbonation and a slick tart puckering mouthfeel. Nice American wild, I'm glad I got to try it. (699 characters)

Photo of HopHead84
4.47/5  rDev +6.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Thanks to Torry for this one. The beer is ruby tinted orange with a small, off white head. As Goose Island says, rose is an accurate description of the color.

The initial aroma is of Brett. Musty barnyard with a bit of horse blanket and some oak. Tannins, vinegar, and blackberries are evident. There are some earthiness and wine notes.

The beer is sweet and slightly tart with some wood and tannins. The tart blackberries add a unique spin to the beer, and cabernet notes are apparent. The beer has a low level of tartness to it, with an interesting buttery character in the finish.

The beer is light bodied with low carbonation and a sticky mouthfeel.

A really enjoyable sour from Goose Island. The first I've had from them. (730 characters)

Photo of John_M
3.65/5  rDev -12.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Last beer of the evening (at least for me) at Dyan's the other night.

The beer pours a hazy rose color with good head retention and lacing. Nose is pretty unusual, with a blend of raspberry and sour funk. The funk and sour aren't too overwhelming, and like the flavors on the palate, this is not an intensely aromatic beer. Flavors replicate the nose, but seem just a bit muddled. It comes across as pretty much a dumbed down sour, a beer where the sour dominates but there just isn't all that much flavor. Mouthfeel is fairly light, and the beer is a bit short on the finish. Drinkability is fair in this simple, one dimensionable sour beer from Goose Island.

I guess it's not bad for a first effort, but can't say I was overwhelmingly impressed. (751 characters)

Photo of rhoadsrage
4/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

(Served in a chalice) bottled Aug14
A- This beer pours a cranberry red body with a slight hazy and a sea of microbubbles boiling at the surface. There is a thick wispy head with tiny berry specks suspended in it.
S- This beer has a dry tartness wit a grapefruit rind note and a plastic note that grows in the finish. The finish has a white wine note that grows with a hint of clorine.
T- This beer has a big tartness with some berry qualities and a soft brett note. There is a bitter bite in the finish that has some grapefruit rind qualities with a dry berry hint and a concord grape note.
M- This beer has a light mouthfeel with a soft astringency and a fizz bite in the finish.
D- This beer has a big tartness and a big grapefruit bite but not much else. I don't know if age will help but the brett notes are pretty soft in the background. (847 characters)

Photo of akorsak
4.12/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to autumnaldave for this unlabelled 750 mL bottle from Batch 1. A wild rye beer with blackberries? Sign me up.

A: The ale has a reddish maraschino cherry glow. Despite the fuller syrupy red color, it remains translucent. A thin, negligible band of white head lounges around.

S: Blackberries and brett. The dark sugary sweetness stands out against the tart funk. It follows a regimented order every time, blackberries first, then the funk. Oak runs through both elements, a vanilla dose, a nuanced aroma.

T: The fruit has been completely run out of the body, elbowed out by the brett and its insatiable appetite. The brett is funky, citrusy with a lemon pungency, that leaves the ale bone dry. Lemon is a stand-out near the end of each sip, showcasing the brett. The wood presence isn't as firm as in the nose, getting lost behind the brettanomyces, as everything seemingly does in this ale. Funny, larger sips, whole mouthfuls even, reveal more of the wood and even some blackberry. Lost in the smaller doses, they linger around the big picture. Blackberry even hangs around in the finish, a lightly sugared sweetness.

Prior to the finish, a wall of tart funk, more than just brett too. The only drawback is that I can't find any rye. It's been enveloped by the brett and the barrel and the fruit. I initially wrote down 3.5 for taste but the complexity has grown on me so I'll go with a 4.0.

M: The mouthfeel can't avoid the bretty and funky tartness. It takes some time and patience before the blackberry and oak come through. The dry finish reminds me of a red wine.

D: The alcohol is moderate and never gets in the way. The acidic funk gets a little filling at times, but that is a minor issue. It can be both delicate and forceful. (1,749 characters)

Photo of liamt07
4.15/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle shared by Pino, bottled December 11, 2010; into a tulip.

Pours a cloudy brownish red, with an transient offwhite that falls to a think collar. Nose gives off sour notes immediately, cherry, raspberry and some less noticeable blackberry. Wild notes and lots of funk, oak and some sweetness as well. Taste echoes the nose, piercing sour cherries and raspberry throughout. Some tannins, puckering and juicy feel. Some vanilla and general barrel character as well. High carbonation, and an impressive sour. (510 characters)

Photo of aasher
4.08/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Poured a 2009 Juliet, it burst open and foamed everywhere for about five minutes, the activity in the beer was insane

Appearance: poured very slowly with a billowing foamy head, took about five to ten minutes to calm down, had a creamy white head with flashes of burgundy here and there, good amount of sediment in the foam, very very active and carbonated, a rich burgundy in appearance

Smell: smelled of wine and sour raspberries

Taste: sour and flavorful, tastes of sour raspberries and is kind of wine-esque yeasty after taste

Mouthfeel: very active and a lot of carbonation, great appeal, medium bodied

Drinkability: it's a good beer but is a little too sour for my liking, it's worth a try but beware of the exploding batch from 2009 (744 characters)

Photo of Viggo
4.15/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22 oz bottle, big thanks to Lexx for a bottle, and I believe autumnaldave hooked me up too.

Pours a lightly hazed reddish orange, neat fruit juice colour, medium sized big bubbled off white head forms, settles to a thick ring around the glass and layer, small bubbles rise up from the bottom of the glass.

Smell is neat, very acidic and funky, blackberries, strawberries, cherry candies, a bit of orange and pineapple, wood, vanilla, caramel, some sugary sweetness, assorted fruit juice, some barnyardy funk and sourness.

Taste is neat, very tart, acidic, some vinegar, lambic like, some wheat and sugar in the middle, lots of berry character, blackberries, wild cherries, strawberries, wood, vanilla, caramel, oranges, a bit of charred wood and big tartness in the finish, like unripe berries.

Mouthfeel is light bodied with high carbonation, very tart and dry in the finish, pretty neat stuff. (899 characters)

Photo of Bitterbill
4.33/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

I got this bottle in yet another great trade with joe1510. Thanks Joe!

Bottled Jan '09

It pours from the 22oz bottle(filled almost to the lip of the bottle) a cloudy red-orange with a 1 finger head of foam. It looks gorgeous.

The smell is sour and fruity and yeasty and nice! The fruit comes across for me as blackberries and some cherries and I want to dive right in with the taste.

The taste has oodles of sourness with the cherries and blackberry semi sourness, a light malty breadiness, wood, yeast, and a very light bit of funk. Tasty! And after every sip, a ton of lacing is left on the glass.

The mouthfeel is on the low side of medium, the carbonation is medium bordering on high, and it finishes as it starts with a nice sour send off.

Drinkability? I wish it was in a 750ML bottle cuz it's disappearing way too quickly for my liking.

The American Wild Ale is currently my favourite style and Goose Island did a *great* job with Juliet. Thanks a bunch again, Joe! (980 characters)

Photo of HuskyinPDX
4.37/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Bottle opened on 7.25.12.
Bottled 1/26/2012

A - Pours a cloudy amber-red with a small off-white head that fades mostly to the edges.

S - Belgian funk and tart cherries.

T - Tart and funky cherries. Appealing.

D - Great carbonation and a light, tart body.

O - Great sour and tartness with a sweet cherry body. (313 characters)

Photo of wordemupg
4.24/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

650ml 2012 bomber poured into tulip 12/10/12 thanks Mattsander and alpineclimber

A amber with a salmon glow, just a thin fizzy head and little for bubbles and zero lace but I’m liking the color

S sour fruit, strawberry, raspberry, cranberry and cassis but I think the writing on the bottle convinced me of the last one, vinous notes and oaky with some faint funky earth, smelling good

T more sour oaky notes and the fruits faded, quite sour and pretty solid but I preferred the nose, a little burnt sugar as it warms

M medium weight with a bit of a tingle, a little grit and quite the pucker to it, the earthy sour notes linger, well done in this department

O 8%? I’d believe 4%, very well rounded stuff with a nice blend of fruit and woody vinous notes, very well done

I could drink this for a while without getting board, a fair bit going on and I like everything that’s happening, worth seeking out (917 characters)

Photo of scruffwhor
4.12/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Holy head a-roonies!!! I barely get two ounces in the glass an I'm overwhelmed with head. Very spectacular looking, but a bit much at the same time. The color is a juicey and carbonated light merlot and amber. Holy wine barrel aged funk with a little monk! This beer hasthe aromas of blackberry, vine, oak, and some earthy yeast funk. Tart wine grapes mingle with fruity and also tart blackberries. The funky yeast just encourages the wine barrel flavors. Lots of grapes and blackberries, but also a little toasted wood thrown in to this diverse grab-bag. Funky yeast and to different fruit flavors make the flavors of this wild ale pretty complex. The palate is tart and fruity orchard farm funky. Lots of carbonation visible and palatable. Very nice offering from Goose Island. (779 characters)

Photo of TurdFurgison
4.59/5  rDev +9.8%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

650mL bomber, dated JAN 09 on the label, purchased from Binny's in Lake Zurich for about $16 after Dark Lord Day. The beer is faded pinkish lilac color, hazy to the point of opacity, with an off-white thin 1/4 finger of foam that laces with good adhesion to the glass. The aroma is everything you could want in a wild ale, musty leather and horse blanket with a hint of tart berry. The beer tastes just as good, not puckeringly sour, more of an accessible wild ale with just enough bite to keep an experienced palate happy. Undertones of berry flavors (apparently this was aged in wine barrels with blackberries) along with a mellow pucker and hints of lactose, delicious. The beer is well carbonated and light bodied, enhancing drinkability (and only 6.7%). This is definitely one of the better wild ales I've tried, Goose Island is showing strong brewing chops lately. (870 characters)

Photo of bluejacket74
4.17/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22 ounce bottle, it's a 2012 bottle but there's no bottling date printed on the label. Served in a Unibroue tulip, the beer pours an orange/red color with a half inch head that fizzled away quickly. Not much lacing at all. Aroma is nice and sour, it smells like tart berries, oak, and red wine. The taste is pretty much just like the aroma, except that the berry flavor tastes more like sweet and tart blackberries, and that the sourness is stronger in comparison to the aroma. Mouthfeel/body is light/medium, it's a bit slick with a good amount of carbonation. I liked this beer, it's tasty and tart so I can't complain about that! $15.99 a bottle. (649 characters)

Photo of claspada
4.2/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2010 Edition.
Aromas are sweet sour; lots of ripe berries. A little spicy and musty and well.

The taste follows the nose with initial sweet berries and sour brett flavors. You get a nice little kick/bite from the rye malt additions. Oak barrel woodiness emerges more and more as it warms.

The mouthfeel is medium bodied with a light amount of carbonation, would actually enjoy a little more to be honest. There is a moderate to strong amount of dryness.

Overall this is an very good sour beer. It's fairly dry and sour but not the sourest beer I've ever had. I think the berries and rye really add to this beer making it extremely drinkable. I don't think this is the be all and end of of sour beers but another strong offering from Goose Island. (752 characters)

Juliet from Goose Island Beer Co.
93 out of 100 based on 336 ratings.