1800 Old English IPA - Minneapolis Town Hall Brewery

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Ratings: 99
Reviews: 45
rAvg: 4.08
pDev: 10.05%
Wants: 21
Gots: 0 | FT: 0
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Minnesota, United States

Style | ABV
English India Pale Ale (IPA) |  8.20% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: feloniousmonk on 07-30-2004

Recreated from an IPA recipe Mike Hoops found from the year 1800. The recipe was altered slightly with the british style hops additions (5 lbs per barrel) spaced out more during the boil to allow the beer to be drinkable now instead of months after a sea voyage.
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Photo of MattyG85
4.34/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

64 oz. growler bought from the brewpub with a date of 2/22. Poured into a Town Hall Chalice glass.

Appearance: Pours a deep copper amber orange with a moderate amount of bubbles. Starts with a big four finger off white head that quickly fades into a thin patch. Leaves a decent amount of lacing around the glass.

Smell: Aroma is a bold but very balanced mix of bitter hops and sweet malts. Earthy and citrus hops with hints of orange, grapefruit, tangerine, and lemon. Some spicy pine and floral aromas. Big malt profile with good hints of bready biscuit, caramel, toffee, yeast, nuts, and grains. Some candied sugar and a little hint of honey. Leans a little more to the bready malt side but the balance is pretty good with a strong hop presence. A nice spicy full aroma.

Taste: Like the aroma hints, although the malt presence is even stronger. Very bready toasted malt presence up front with a taste of biscuit, grains, caramel, toffee, yeast, and nuts. Some sweet sugar and honey notes linger around. Solid hop presence with a nice spicy kick of floral hops and pine resin. Notes of citrus orange, grapefruit, lemon, and tangerine. The spice is so noticeable that it seems like there is some rye in the mix as well. A pretty good balanced taste.

Mouthfeel: Medium bodied with a moderate amount of carbonation. Creamy, spicy, and smooth. Alcohol heat is masked well.

Overall: A very good take on the style. Very English with a strong malt balance to the hops. Really nice spice going on here.

Photo of ADR
3.87/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

On tap at the brewpub...

Hazy apricot color, floating and flat yellowish head, fairly thin. Laces in sheets but with very thick ropes. Spicey sort of pumpkin pie aroma. Thick mouthfeel but lots of carbonation. Cinnamon hot flavors, resiny hops that are sprue-ridden and a licorice and caramel mixture to the malt flavors. gets a bit sweeter on further sips with plenty of aftertaste. An interesting beer, heavier with a more distinct yeastiness than I thought I was going to get with lots of flavor -- but it plays out very different. Becomes somewhat peppery and almost like celery greens at the end of the glass.

Photo of cokes
4.13/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Iridescent daffodil, under a milky, never-ending, never fading tide of white.
Smells of peaches, but only the fuzzy dehydrated skins, all butchered and impaled upon stakes of rusted iron, hung above tapestries of toasted pale malts and reaching tendrils of booze...which only grow higher and higher as the brew gains warmth.
Begins dry, full of toasted English muffins patted gently with butter. Fruitiness appears through phantoms. Misty shrouds of oranges, apricots, and red apples. Perky minerality foreshadows the quinine and lemon rind hop bombast. Alcohol is noted on the finish with its lingering gin like cues.
Lowly and appropriately carbonation. Starts a bit sparse and scattered, but congeals as it warms into a focused English Hop bomb.

In the true spirit of a circa 1800 IPA, this particular growler took a circuitous and adventurous rout to my doorstep. It was well worth the wait. Many thanks to Captain 'Monk for the trusty vessel. Ahoy!

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Photo of tempest
4/5  rDev -2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On-tap at the brewpub. Appears a hazy gold-amber with a short white head. This beer is basically a British IPA with the hops dialed to 11 or 12. They're big, but just balanced enough to keep this drinkable, with grassy, herbal, citrus rind and a slight bready malt backbone. If you dig english hops, this beer is for you. Certainly more an American IPA than British, but a fun beer to drink.

Photo of morimech
4.67/5  rDev +14.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

I know this is sacrilege, but I prefer this to Masala Mama. I had this on-tap and immediately followed it up with it on cask. The cask is better looking and has nicer mouthfeel and a tick more drinkablity, but the on-tap version really makes the hops pop in the aroma and taste. It appears a hazy amber with one inch of white head that had good retention. Moderate amount of lacing is left on the glass. Wonderful Fuggles and Golden hop aroma. Floral and citrus elements go along with a toffee note from the malt. This is more bitter than other English IPAs I have had but it is not over-the-top and harsh. The flavors meld perfectly. Medium body and perfectly carbonated depending on the prefered delivery method. This beer is dangerously drinkable. The high ABV is the only thing holding this beer back. I see this is offered in growlers. Good to know.

Photo of Boilermaker88
3.95/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a 64oz growler bestowed upon me by feloniousmonk. This English-styled IPA had a lightly hazed coppery color, a firm, resilient white head that lasted throughout, and a huge volume of tight, fine carbonation.
The nose had a robust citrusy bitterness which surpassed the milder caramel and soft malt aromas.
The taste had an immediate and pungent bitter flavor; lots of grapefruit rinds and the pithy innards of citrus fruit vice the actual juicy fruit itself. This brew lays on the bitter in a big way!! Some biscuity malt and light caramel flavor try to provide a countering sweetness but it's really all in vain. The bittering has a leafy, fresh taste that's nice but in the end it still has a rather harsh tone to it. The feel was medium in body, lushly creamy to start and then Sahara-like in dryness, further withering the tongue.
Overall, I enjoyed this offering from Minneapolis Town Hall. It's interesting to try a brewer's attempt at bringing back a recipe from the past. Taking that information into consideration, I imagine 1800 Old English IPA could stand a bit of time on a boat (or a cellar) to take the harsh edge off the hoppiness. Still, a darn tasty brew.

Photo of MrBluto
4.68/5  rDev +14.7%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

I really liked this beer, and this was after having a different beer first (their Scotch ale) which may have affected my pallete. Even though it is an IPA (English) I thought it was very well balanced and not overly hoppish. It had a thick 1" head that settled like a Guinness but lasted throughout the drink. It had a floral nose, and the first sip was sweet, though it didn't last long...very nice! It was full bodied with a nice mouth feel and very light carbonation. The finish was moderate with a light bitterness. And the fact it was served at standard cask temperature (around 52 F) made it an overall enjoyable beer. I would definitely order again!

Photo of MBrausen
4.53/5  rDev +11%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Served on tap into a pint glass.

A. Pours a nice golden yellow, a nice one finger head, resides to a thin foam ring with a nice island.

S. Smells very flora, mild hops and a nice sweetness.

T. Tastes of sweet hops, barley, a little malty with a mildly bitter finish.

M. Medium thin body, slightly chewy with a sweet dry finish.

O. A great beer. Light and easy to drink even with the high ABV. This could easily be a session beer for me. Just a good beer to drink anytime. Well balanced and smooth.

Photo of ppoitras
4.18/5  rDev +2.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Screw-cap growler provided via trade by Faro. Thanks for the opportunity.

Poured into an imperial pint glass, formed a 1" light beige head over the clear light amber brew. Frothy head lasts nicely, and laces that way as well, lots of foamy bits. Aroma is tangerine hops coupled with biscuity malt sweetness. Taste finds the same sweetness cut with plenty of hops bitterness, even more than I would expect for an English-style IPA, with notes of citrus. Mouthfeel and drinkability are both great. Another hit of a Town Hall IPA...

Photo of Thorpe429
4.07/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

On tap at Town Hall in June 2010. Reviewed from notes.

Pours a nice golden color with a bit of a white head. Very minor lacing as this goes down. The nose is nice with some floral and earthy hops. A tiny amount of grass in the background. There's a bit of malt underlying the taste on this, but not really all that much. Light bread. Mostly some nice, earth-driven hops with a slight floral presence. Good bitter feel. This drinks quite well. Town Hall can do no wrong with hops.

Photo of TastyTaste
4.65/5  rDev +14%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This is what an EIPA should taste like (read: more like an American IPA). Glear copper color big off white head. Smell was grapefruit hops down to the core. Taste was very reminiscent of Masala, but there is a lot of citrus bitterness in here, hardly anything sweet. Hop levels are almost at a DIPA level, but the mouthfeel doesn't reinforce the higher ABV at all, as it is fairly thin (a welcome change, that I think adds tot he drinkability of this beer). Excellent offering, and was a good beer to get started with, after finishing with a pint of the abyssmal Festivus.

Photo of Wisconsinality
3.93/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Had at Town Hall Brewery.

A- A nice deep burnt orange with a slight haze to it. About a finger's worth of head to it that left a nice cap on the beer and left some great lacing on the side of the glass.

S- The predominant scents were that of some malt and some dark fruits. The hops were barely even noticeable. This one reminded me of an English Barleywine.

T- The sweetness of the malt was the first thing my tongue identified. The hops are pretty well hidden and there is a hint of some dates and maybe even black cherry.

M- What beer from a cask is all about. It has made this beer tremendously smooth with a medium to full body. That's really all I can say about it, smooth.

D- Goes down very easy and that's what it is all about. A pretty good offering from Town Hall.

Photo of KeefD
4.6/5  rDev +12.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Pours a super-hazy orange color with a large white head that left great lacing down the glass. Bold hoppy aroma, with a nice herbal and orange quality, backed up by lightly sweet bready notes. Flavor is a nice balance between toasty malts, sweet breadiness, and an orange marmalade hop flavor that's bitter, but never becomes exceedingly so. Perfect balance in this beer. Body is medium-full, ample carbonation. Great brew, and probably the best English style IPA I've had.

Photo of KarlHungus
4.62/5  rDev +13.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

This beer pours a hazy reddish bronze color. The head is one inch in height, and recedes slowly into nice lacing. The aroma is of a flower bed with hints of grass and grapefruit. The taste is a balance of soft floral notes, and a firm bitterness. The aftertaste is long and vibrant. The mouthfeel is medium bodied with lively carbonation. Overall, this is a very good IPA. I don't think it is as good as the Mama, but how many beers are? However, I am a huge fan of English IPAs, and find this one to be a great change of pace if you are in the mood for something hoppy, but different.

Photo of mnstorm99
3.38/5  rDev -17.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Dark gold pour with a nice white head that laces well throughout the experience.
Aroma is floral, but I am not getting much other than the nice hop aroma.
Taste has some light carmel, and biscuit. The hops come through but mostly bitter, flavors are floral and citrus from the hops though.
Mouthfeel seems a little thin, but only for my preferance in an IPA. Maybe even a little over carbonated.
Drinkability, this is a nice beer, but I am not going to rush for another one. It seems a little off in the balance between Bittering, flavor and aroma hopping. This is more of a cross between an EIPA, and an AIPA, which is good in my book.

Photo of TheLongBeachBum
4.5/5  rDev +10.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Presentation: Yet another one of those funky brown Grolsch like, flip top, EZ Cap brown glass bottles. Has the number ‘1800’ in black pen scrawled on the white ceramic top. More imbibational goodness that found its way to Long Beach all the way from Minneapolis thanks to one of the Sites most awesome BA’s.

Appearance: Once the flip top was released there was little in the way of a release, I was a little worried, but I shouldn’t have fretted. Although this bottle was filled almost to the brim from a Growler, once poured into my 20 ounce Mug, the furry and pellucid peach body has a gorgeous off-white head which has a creamy texture and remains at a healthy and stiff ½” thick throughout. Some nice Saturn ring lacing persists. Above average carbonation, it survived the journey exceptionally well. Nice presentation!

Nose: I got the Hops as soon as I poured this one. A more detailed examination reveals pungent orange perfume, tangerines and a citric bitterness that benefits from a juicy acidic kick. Soft fleshy peaches and apricots mingle with some lightly toasted malts.

Taste: Very bitter start – juicy hops mix and intermingle with a stark acidic citric bite, the sort of effect you get from biting through orange/lemon rind before you hit the fleshy middle. Some very light malts, but barely enough to even affect the bitter hops, let alone offset them. Very dry and Bitter - with a strong orange peel middle, juicy hoppy finish. Very dry in the finish. Lingering juicy end.

Mouthfeel: A medium to full feel in the mouth, citric and sharp, juicy and somewhat tart, dry and yet fluid. Thick orange peel skid-marks on the tongue after the swallow. Hop juices abound.

Drinkability: Somehow clean and yet raw enough to entice and excite. Fresh and inviting, it just asks to be downed by the Gallon.

Overall: A solid, juicy, yet bitter IPA that has lots of tangerines and oranges to entice the Imbiber. Attractive and different, refreshingly nice to try an IPA that is not in yer face, but more in yer mind, this one makes you think, an intellectuals IPA so to speak.

A Big Huge Cheers to BigHuge for this lovely E-IPA. Worth seeking out.
They should bottle this one for the masses.

Photo of Buebie
4.42/5  rDev +8.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Picked up this growler yesterday 2/01/10 from Town Hall. The abv listed here is lower then what the brew pub now lists it, which is 8% abv. So it was a bit more on price because of this. Went in there with an empty to swap and cost was $13.60 or so. Which is about $4 more then a reguler growler fill of masala mama or other beers. This is also listed as a seasonal.

Poured from the growler into my Surly pub glass, producing about an inch of off white head. Settling to leave a solid collar of retention and a thin froth across the top. Color is a pale amber with some chill haze present. Appearance is great, with a slight haze that resembles a dry hoped non filtered look.
Light thin lace drapes the glass of this also.

Aroma is a bit ashy with an odd perfume shampoo aroma. A nice grain smell coming from this too with a touch of biscuits and caramel pils malt.

Taste is quite good, plenty of malt kick in here, with more bicuits, sweet caramel and a touch of nuttiness too, loads of fresh grain flavors. It starts out sweet with a divine amount of delicious malt and grain flavors.
A touch of ashyness through the middle as well as earthy mildly spicy hops. Becoming a bi more bitter into the finish, mild pine and grapefruit as well as more earthy floral hops.
A touch of pine resin flavors. Malt sweetness pursuing hops all along the way.

Mouthfeel is crisp with some body to it. Carbonation is perfect, medium amount providing crispness to the feel.

This is an outstanding brew with wonderful balance. Incredibly drinkable, no heat or warmth suggesting an 8% abv. I love the English style ipa not too hoppy in a way that would overwhelm grain flavors. Allowing malt to shine as well as hop flavors to come forward. A terrific brew, highly recommend.

Photo of ThePeskyDingo
4.08/5  rDev 0%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

picked up a growler of this about 2 weeks ago, and finally am gettin the chance to crack it.

Pours a clear rusty orange color with an off white 1.5 finger head. Shows small carbonation.

Smells of lots floral hops with a good malt profile coming in through the background.

Tastes of very bitter floral hops flavor right off the bat which moves into the malts which have a bready slightly toasty taste to them.

Mouthfeel is very smooth and creamy with light, fine carbonation. Body feel of the beer is on the mid to upper part of the medium side. Finishes pretty clean.

Drinks very nicely. Just opened the growler tonight and will probably finish it.

Photo of dfried
4.42/5  rDev +8.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Thick, slightly off white head sticks around for a while before fizzing into a ring, the body is caramel amber in color. The aroma has a malty character to it, but is mainly of an array of hops, first I got a pine-like floral smell, then a citrus/lemon peel zing. This is from a recipe from England in 1800, so it's hard to argue that it is an English IPA, but the taste is closer to what is now considered an American IPA. A good malty character, but not too caramel-like, fresh floral hops rule this beer, then start a bit more floral but end up really citrusy, a lot of orange flavor in the finish. Average 'good' mouthfeel, very drinkable. Maybe not one to put a lot of effort into seeking out, but it is a damn good beer.

Edit: the 2007 batch is awesome, I liked it more than the feeling I got reading through my '06 review, and I bumped its score up a bit. Good complex hop flavor.

Photo of BeerBuilder
4/5  rDev -2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours to a deep golden color with a minimal white head. The aroma is spicy hops and a bit of fruity citrus hops. A nice solid malt backbone. A bit of alcohol is in the aroma too. The flavor is malty with a spicy noble hop flavor. It is medium in body and very balanced. A nice clean beer, with a slightly drying bitter finish.

Photo of birchstick
3.18/5  rDev -22.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Pour an amber orange with a nice creamy head that retains really well. Smells a little strange, with floral bitter hops and cereal malts. Taste was unexpectedly sweet with a nice cereal malt malt base from the marris otter and is rounded off with some citrus, grass, and floral hops. There was something in the mix I couldn't put my finger on but was a little strange. When it comes to IPAs here, I'll stick with the Mama, but this is pretty decent.

Photo of tmcelvain
3.57/5  rDev -12.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Pale gold pour with a bright hint of orange; thin head poured out of the growler.

Earthy, almost musty smell with just a hint of floral hops.

A very complex taste. the hops are way forward, but they are less floral and a lot darker than typical american hop profile. Musty, almost funky wild taste that is balanced with just a hint of bready malts.

Not quite up to par in the mouthfeel. The earthy/funky malts contribute to a grainy mouthfeel that keeps this from a bright, hoppy feeling ale you might expect from the taste, and especially the smell.

This is complex enough to keep you interested through a few, though this pour does not seem quite balanced.

Photo of tavernjef
4.3/5  rDev +5.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

On-tap at the brewpub: Chill hazed pale yellow, a bit of a rusty orange to it in some light - thin but firm off-white cap, good lacing in thick strings sticks. Aroma is a bit subdued but crisp and fair of some dry leafy hops and biscuit malts. Touches some floral and citrusy things. Taste is where its at with this one. Calm and steady even bitterness from front to back, easy and crisp, with a pleasant tone of pale malts and the hops are floral to start. Ah but the finish, awesome in the return, spicy, herbal, dry with very slight touches of orange citrus pith. Excellent finish. Complex and full of hop character in flavor, but not so much in the bitterness. Bitterness is there though with a citric/floral aspect and keeps a good balance. Feel is clean and crisp with a medium, steadfast body and one fantastic finish of hops which lingers for a good while. Almost a tart-like citrus with a brazen dry spicy/herbal/ floral mix....nice...almost seemed like a super fine bitter then an IPA, but I guess I can see where this does fit a more English style IPA due to its dryer malt base then caramel. Yet another masterfully drinkable ale by Hoops at Town Hall.

Photo of mothman
3.55/5  rDev -13%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Poured into Flying Dog Pint Glass

Pours 1 and 1/2 finger of creamy beige head. Color is an appealing slight hazed dull copper orange. Decent retention with some splattered lace.

Aroma: Some dulled down hops mixed with citrus. This is a very bready smelling beer. Has some grapefruit and lemons.

Taste: I can definitely tell this is an English IPA. The malts are so bready. Some dulled down citrus, but for the most part I am really not feeling this beer.

Mouthfeel: Bitter, but ever so chewy. Medium bodied and the same goes for the level of carbonation. Ends with a dry, hoppy aftertaste.

Overall, either I don't like this style or this beer just isn't clicking together. I like many of Town Hall's beers, but this one seems a little subpar to me. My growler got shared with a few people in order for it to be finished.

Photo of ZAP
4.75/5  rDev +16.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Update-

This years batch is incredible. Just loaded with flavorful but not bitter hops....I'm getting a lot of fuggles and Hallertau....what a showcase for Eurupean hops....massive floral aroma....big firm body...sweet tasting blend of malts and hops....this is incredible...

2005 notes=4.1 rating

Rich golden color...big frothy head....big hops on the nose...strong citrus (oranges, tangerines, grapefruit)..

Taste is more balanced than I expected...a nice english malt backing but the hops still bat cleanup...not a real bitter beer, just a very fresh hop flavor...finishes a little dry and peppery..

Body is bigger than I expected...on the high side of medium..creamy mouthfeel...

Hell of a tasty IPA...a little bolder than most of the english IPA's I've tried but I'm not complaining.

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1800 Old English IPA from Minneapolis Town Hall Brewery
91 out of 100 based on 99 ratings.