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1800 Old English IPA - Minneapolis Town Hall Brewery

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BA SCORE
91
outstanding

93 Ratings
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Ratings: 93
Reviews: 45
rAvg: 4.09
pDev: 10.27%
Wants: 15
Gots: 0 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Minneapolis Town Hall Brewery visit their website
Minnesota, United States

Style | ABV
English India Pale Ale (IPA) |  8.20% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
Recreated from an IPA recipe Mike Hoops found from the year 1800. The recipe was altered slightly with the british style hops additions (5 lbs per barrel) spaced out more during the boil to allow the beer to be drinkable now instead of months after a sea voyage.

(Beer added by: feloniousmonk on 07-30-2004)
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5/5  rDev +22.2%

millelacsmark, Nov 14, 2011
Photo of surlyseth
4.88/5  rDev +19.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Had a Masala Mama pint and took this growler for the road.

A: IPA-looking. Quite clear from the growler. Nice loose head. Some lacing, but not much.

S: Floral, but a tinge of earthy goodness.

T&M: Wow. Mostly AIPA'ish, but definitely some English dankness with the Kent and Fuggles. Soooo nice. Hop Head delight, but a nice change from all the citric, piney C varieties I've been chasing.

D: Restraint is an arduous, ongoing process with this one.

One of the best ever, for me.

surlyseth, Jun 11, 2008
Photo of dogger6253
4.8/5  rDev +17.4%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

This beer is cloudy as all hell! It's got this sort of milky-honey color to it, darker mocha-like shade near the bottom. The thick inch of head lasts forever. Looking at it after it settles a bit, kind of looks like maple syrup. The lacing left behind is most ultimate, totally covering the sides of the glass.

A nutty smell mixed with some hops: almond, cashews and pine nuts with bits of honey, raisins and ginger perhaps.

I was amazed at how fruity this is! Hops take the foreground, but there definite notes of orange in here as well, even a lime kind of tang to it. Nutty flavor, malty-sugary sweetness, kind of buttery too.

So creamy, so thick, so good. Absolutely amazing beer.

dogger6253, Sep 21, 2007
Photo of ZAP
4.78/5  rDev +16.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Update-

This years batch is incredible. Just loaded with flavorful but not bitter hops....I'm getting a lot of fuggles and Hallertau....what a showcase for Eurupean hops....massive floral aroma....big firm body...sweet tasting blend of malts and hops....this is incredible...

2005 notes=4.1 rating

Rich golden color...big frothy head....big hops on the nose...strong citrus (oranges, tangerines, grapefruit)..

Taste is more balanced than I expected...a nice english malt backing but the hops still bat cleanup...not a real bitter beer, just a very fresh hop flavor...finishes a little dry and peppery..

Body is bigger than I expected...on the high side of medium..creamy mouthfeel...

Hell of a tasty IPA...a little bolder than most of the english IPA's I've tried but I'm not complaining.

ZAP, Dec 30, 2005
Photo of will4240
4.78/5  rDev +16.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

I have always been a big fan of the Town Hall, but when I had this beer I decided to start going there religiously...

A- Beautiful golden orange... the lace stuck around til the very end, from the top down...

S- HOPS!!! as a hop head I can say that even I was overwhelmed by the intensity.

T- Holy Balls, the hoppiest IPA I have ever had (some imperials such as unearthly by Southern Tier and the Elliott Brew would be the only beers that could really compare). The hops are prevalent, but the presence of a solid malt background balances out the beer quite nicely.

M- Again, the presence of the malt really helps here.

D- The hops presence makes you want to slow down a bit. Best drunk as a sipper. It may be a bit strong for the faint of heart.

Wow, just wow. One of the most enjoyable hop bombs I've had in a while.

will4240, Sep 24, 2009
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4.75/5  rDev +16.1%

billhelm, Apr 18, 2014
Photo of morimech
4.7/5  rDev +14.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

I know this is sacrilege, but I prefer this to Masala Mama. I had this on-tap and immediately followed it up with it on cask. The cask is better looking and has nicer mouthfeel and a tick more drinkablity, but the on-tap version really makes the hops pop in the aroma and taste. It appears a hazy amber with one inch of white head that had good retention. Moderate amount of lacing is left on the glass. Wonderful Fuggles and Golden hop aroma. Floral and citrus elements go along with a toffee note from the malt. This is more bitter than other English IPAs I have had but it is not over-the-top and harsh. The flavors meld perfectly. Medium body and perfectly carbonated depending on the prefered delivery method. This beer is dangerously drinkable. The high ABV is the only thing holding this beer back. I see this is offered in growlers. Good to know.

morimech, Jan 30, 2010
Photo of MrBluto
4.68/5  rDev +14.4%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

I really liked this beer, and this was after having a different beer first (their Scotch ale) which may have affected my pallete. Even though it is an IPA (English) I thought it was very well balanced and not overly hoppish. It had a thick 1" head that settled like a Guinness but lasted throughout the drink. It had a floral nose, and the first sip was sweet, though it didn't last long...very nice! It was full bodied with a nice mouth feel and very light carbonation. The finish was moderate with a light bitterness. And the fact it was served at standard cask temperature (around 52 F) made it an overall enjoyable beer. I would definitely order again!

MrBluto, Sep 03, 2012
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4.68/5  rDev +14.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This is what an EIPA should taste like (read: more like an American IPA). Glear copper color big off white head. Smell was grapefruit hops down to the core. Taste was very reminiscent of Masala, but there is a lot of citrus bitterness in here, hardly anything sweet. Hop levels are almost at a DIPA level, but the mouthfeel doesn't reinforce the higher ABV at all, as it is fairly thin (a welcome change, that I think adds tot he drinkability of this beer). Excellent offering, and was a good beer to get started with, after finishing with a pint of the abyssmal Festivus.

TastyTaste, Dec 31, 2004
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4.65/5  rDev +13.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Hazed apricot orange tone. Nice looking off-white head. Lacing is spotty in nature but ample. The aroma is heavy on the hops. Earthy and pungent at the same time. Grassy and herbal. And the nose also contains sufficient malt tones to it. The beer feels great in the mouth. Medium-full body and a nice little prickle to it. The bitterness of this IPA is quite clean and nice. Not over the top, but it's fucking there. Hops impart some grassiness and herbal qualities. The malts are dripping in caramel and toffee sweetness. And I think it's the yeast that's giving some fruity tones of nectarine/apricot-like origin. Another damn fine brew from the Hall. What can I say. I'm lucky to live close to such a consistent high quality brewery/brewer.

Bighuge, Jan 05, 2005
Photo of KeefD
4.63/5  rDev +13.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Pours a super-hazy orange color with a large white head that left great lacing down the glass. Bold hoppy aroma, with a nice herbal and orange quality, backed up by lightly sweet bready notes. Flavor is a nice balance between toasty malts, sweet breadiness, and an orange marmalade hop flavor that's bitter, but never becomes exceedingly so. Perfect balance in this beer. Body is medium-full, ample carbonation. Great brew, and probably the best English style IPA I've had.

KeefD, Feb 01, 2010
Photo of KarlHungus
4.6/5  rDev +12.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

This beer pours a hazy reddish bronze color. The head is one inch in height, and recedes slowly into nice lacing. The aroma is of a flower bed with hints of grass and grapefruit. The taste is a balance of soft floral notes, and a firm bitterness. The aftertaste is long and vibrant. The mouthfeel is medium bodied with lively carbonation. Overall, this is a very good IPA. I don't think it is as good as the Mama, but how many beers are? However, I am a huge fan of English IPAs, and find this one to be a great change of pace if you are in the mood for something hoppy, but different.

KarlHungus, Dec 23, 2007
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4.55/5  rDev +11.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Growler from 12/29/08. Menu listed this batch of 1800 at 8% abv.

Pours a slightly hazy peachy orange with golden edges. Thick finger of creamy, very lacy, light beige head. Heady nose of toasted bread, sugary fruits, toffee, marmalade, and minty hops. Nicely balanced nose that brings out that toast and marmalade English IPA quality nicely.

Herbal hop bitterness up front along with toasted grains. Sweetish fruits and toffee malt follow; herbal hop bitterness remains and even increases. Orange marmalade and mint hop flavors come through near the finish. Toffee and bready malts hide out among the numbing hop bitterness. Toasted malts linger in the citrus-y finish. Medium-full body with a creamy, excellently-drinkable feel. Very nice! Man, the Town Hall can sure crank out some unbelievable IPAs!

alexgash, Jan 03, 2009
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4.53/5  rDev +10.8%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Served on tap into a pint glass.

A. Pours a nice golden yellow, a nice one finger head, resides to a thin foam ring with a nice island.

S. Smells very flora, mild hops and a nice sweetness.

T. Tastes of sweet hops, barley, a little malty with a mildly bitter finish.

M. Medium thin body, slightly chewy with a sweet dry finish.

O. A great beer. Light and easy to drink even with the high ABV. This could easily be a session beer for me. Just a good beer to drink anytime. Well balanced and smooth.

MBrausen, Jan 23, 2012
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4.5/5  rDev +10%

GRG1313, Jul 21, 2012
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4.5/5  rDev +10%

MITCHELLMPLS, Feb 03, 2012
Photo of TheLongBeachBum
4.5/5  rDev +10%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Presentation: Yet another one of those funky brown Grolsch like, flip top, EZ Cap brown glass bottles. Has the number ‘1800’ in black pen scrawled on the white ceramic top. More imbibational goodness that found its way to Long Beach all the way from Minneapolis thanks to one of the Sites most awesome BA’s.

Appearance: Once the flip top was released there was little in the way of a release, I was a little worried, but I shouldn’t have fretted. Although this bottle was filled almost to the brim from a Growler, once poured into my 20 ounce Mug, the furry and pellucid peach body has a gorgeous off-white head which has a creamy texture and remains at a healthy and stiff ½” thick throughout. Some nice Saturn ring lacing persists. Above average carbonation, it survived the journey exceptionally well. Nice presentation!

Nose: I got the Hops as soon as I poured this one. A more detailed examination reveals pungent orange perfume, tangerines and a citric bitterness that benefits from a juicy acidic kick. Soft fleshy peaches and apricots mingle with some lightly toasted malts.

Taste: Very bitter start – juicy hops mix and intermingle with a stark acidic citric bite, the sort of effect you get from biting through orange/lemon rind before you hit the fleshy middle. Some very light malts, but barely enough to even affect the bitter hops, let alone offset them. Very dry and Bitter - with a strong orange peel middle, juicy hoppy finish. Very dry in the finish. Lingering juicy end.

Mouthfeel: A medium to full feel in the mouth, citric and sharp, juicy and somewhat tart, dry and yet fluid. Thick orange peel skid-marks on the tongue after the swallow. Hop juices abound.

Drinkability: Somehow clean and yet raw enough to entice and excite. Fresh and inviting, it just asks to be downed by the Gallon.

Overall: A solid, juicy, yet bitter IPA that has lots of tangerines and oranges to entice the Imbiber. Attractive and different, refreshingly nice to try an IPA that is not in yer face, but more in yer mind, this one makes you think, an intellectuals IPA so to speak.

A Big Huge Cheers to BigHuge for this lovely E-IPA. Worth seeking out.
They should bottle this one for the masses.

TheLongBeachBum, Jan 16, 2005
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4.5/5  rDev +10%

taospowder, Feb 07, 2013
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4.5/5  rDev +10%

plumcrazyfx, Nov 17, 2011
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4.5/5  rDev +10%

Kenai4, Apr 24, 2014
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4.5/5  rDev +10%

psychotia, Jan 29, 2012
Photo of feloniousmonk
4.5/5  rDev +10%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

For this beer, brewmaster Mike Hoops found an IPA recipe from the year 1800, and tried his hand at re-creating it, with with one little fudge. The hop additions (Fuggles, for sure, and maybe EK Goldings?) 5 lbs per barrel, were spaced out more during the boil than the original recipe called for, to make it more palatable and allow us to enjoy it now, rather than the length of a boat ride to Bombay.
So, let's drink 'er!

Lovely bright orange color. opaque and appealing, with a huge, creamy white head, (helped some by the Duvel glass I employ in this tasting).
Big, citric aroma, a mix of grapefruit, orange, peach and more, floral, sweet and sout, very arousing.
BAM! ooof! Kapow! This one grabs the palate and pulls it in for some major puckering! "Bitter much?" Powerful play in the mouth, very tart and citric. Mellows some after a while, leads into some juiciness, then it dries.
Well-balanced, but the hops are king here, not quite enough of a showing from the malty side, but it holds ground well enough. Long, bitter citric finish, lasts long in the tastebuds.
More fruit shows up throughout the glass, more peach, apricot, and also I'm noting some tiny green particles floating at the bottom. hmmm. It was a clean glass...I knew it was unfiltered, but never expected to find hop pieces floating about. Huh!
Damn, this is nice! I find myself thinking it's not like any English IPAs I've had, but yet it is one, it's made from all English ingredients. Perhaps the problem arises from how far afield they are today from their origins...well, we'll leave those matters for elsewhere and when, and just state that this is damned tasty, and I know that I'll be going back for more, while it lasts!

12-30...it's back! and it's better than ever!

feloniousmonk, Jul 30, 2004
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4.5/5  rDev +10%

ahbithwabm, Aug 09, 2013
Photo of Buebie
4.43/5  rDev +8.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Picked up this growler yesterday 2/01/10 from Town Hall. The abv listed here is lower then what the brew pub now lists it, which is 8% abv. So it was a bit more on price because of this. Went in there with an empty to swap and cost was $13.60 or so. Which is about $4 more then a reguler growler fill of masala mama or other beers. This is also listed as a seasonal.

Poured from the growler into my Surly pub glass, producing about an inch of off white head. Settling to leave a solid collar of retention and a thin froth across the top. Color is a pale amber with some chill haze present. Appearance is great, with a slight haze that resembles a dry hoped non filtered look.
Light thin lace drapes the glass of this also.

Aroma is a bit ashy with an odd perfume shampoo aroma. A nice grain smell coming from this too with a touch of biscuits and caramel pils malt.

Taste is quite good, plenty of malt kick in here, with more bicuits, sweet caramel and a touch of nuttiness too, loads of fresh grain flavors. It starts out sweet with a divine amount of delicious malt and grain flavors.
A touch of ashyness through the middle as well as earthy mildly spicy hops. Becoming a bi more bitter into the finish, mild pine and grapefruit as well as more earthy floral hops.
A touch of pine resin flavors. Malt sweetness pursuing hops all along the way.

Mouthfeel is crisp with some body to it. Carbonation is perfect, medium amount providing crispness to the feel.

This is an outstanding brew with wonderful balance. Incredibly drinkable, no heat or warmth suggesting an 8% abv. I love the English style ipa not too hoppy in a way that would overwhelm grain flavors. Allowing malt to shine as well as hop flavors to come forward. A terrific brew, highly recommend.

Buebie, Feb 02, 2010
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4.43/5  rDev +8.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Thick, slightly off white head sticks around for a while before fizzing into a ring, the body is caramel amber in color. The aroma has a malty character to it, but is mainly of an array of hops, first I got a pine-like floral smell, then a citrus/lemon peel zing. This is from a recipe from England in 1800, so it's hard to argue that it is an English IPA, but the taste is closer to what is now considered an American IPA. A good malty character, but not too caramel-like, fresh floral hops rule this beer, then start a bit more floral but end up really citrusy, a lot of orange flavor in the finish. Average 'good' mouthfeel, very drinkable. Maybe not one to put a lot of effort into seeking out, but it is a damn good beer.

Edit: the 2007 batch is awesome, I liked it more than the feeling I got reading through my '06 review, and I bumped its score up a bit. Good complex hop flavor.

dfried, Jul 17, 2006
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1800 Old English IPA from Minneapolis Town Hall Brewery
91 out of 100 based on 93 ratings.