1800 Old English IPA - Minneapolis Town Hall Brewery

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Ratings: 99
Reviews: 45
rAvg: 4.08
pDev: 10.05%
Wants: 21
Gots: 0 | FT: 0
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Minneapolis Town Hall Brewery visit their website
Minnesota, United States

Style | ABV
English India Pale Ale (IPA) |  8.20% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: feloniousmonk on 07-30-2004

Recreated from an IPA recipe Mike Hoops found from the year 1800. The recipe was altered slightly with the british style hops additions (5 lbs per barrel) spaced out more during the boil to allow the beer to be drinkable now instead of months after a sea voyage.
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Ratings: 99 | Reviews: 45
Photo of birchstick
3.18/5  rDev -22.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Pour an amber orange with a nice creamy head that retains really well. Smells a little strange, with floral bitter hops and cereal malts. Taste was unexpectedly sweet with a nice cereal malt malt base from the marris otter and is rounded off with some citrus, grass, and floral hops. There was something in the mix I couldn't put my finger on but was a little strange. When it comes to IPAs here, I'll stick with the Mama, but this is pretty decent.

Photo of mnstorm99
3.38/5  rDev -17.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Dark gold pour with a nice white head that laces well throughout the experience.
Aroma is floral, but I am not getting much other than the nice hop aroma.
Taste has some light carmel, and biscuit. The hops come through but mostly bitter, flavors are floral and citrus from the hops though.
Mouthfeel seems a little thin, but only for my preferance in an IPA. Maybe even a little over carbonated.
Drinkability, this is a nice beer, but I am not going to rush for another one. It seems a little off in the balance between Bittering, flavor and aroma hopping. This is more of a cross between an EIPA, and an AIPA, which is good in my book.

Photo of brewdoc75
3.47/5  rDev -15%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Had on cask initially and brought home a growler.

A: Pours a nice orangish color with very slight amber hue. Good carbonation, but not too much. I would prefer to see some more amber but pretty spot on for an English IPA.

S: Pungent hoppy bitterness. Hops are floral and earthy with faint citrus aromas. The malts are definitely here with toasty biscut aromas and mild caramel as well.

T: Very strong bitterness initially. This is followed by a nice malt profile with toasty biscut flavors. Not a whole lot of caramel and toffee. Pleasant floral hoppy finish. Unfortunately I felt the malts fell short for an English IPA.

M: Smooth, nicely carbonated and medium bodied.

D: Overall, a pretty good English IPA. It seemed it had a little too much of a harsh bitterness. The malts were a little lacking as well. It was definitely better on cask than in the growler. Maybe this was truly meant to be drank as a "real ale." I'll have it on cask again, but probably won't try it on tap or in a growler.

Photo of mothman
3.55/5  rDev -13%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Poured into Flying Dog Pint Glass

Pours 1 and 1/2 finger of creamy beige head. Color is an appealing slight hazed dull copper orange. Decent retention with some splattered lace.

Aroma: Some dulled down hops mixed with citrus. This is a very bready smelling beer. Has some grapefruit and lemons.

Taste: I can definitely tell this is an English IPA. The malts are so bready. Some dulled down citrus, but for the most part I am really not feeling this beer.

Mouthfeel: Bitter, but ever so chewy. Medium bodied and the same goes for the level of carbonation. Ends with a dry, hoppy aftertaste.

Overall, either I don't like this style or this beer just isn't clicking together. I like many of Town Hall's beers, but this one seems a little subpar to me. My growler got shared with a few people in order for it to be finished.

Photo of tmcelvain
3.57/5  rDev -12.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Pale gold pour with a bright hint of orange; thin head poured out of the growler.

Earthy, almost musty smell with just a hint of floral hops.

A very complex taste. the hops are way forward, but they are less floral and a lot darker than typical american hop profile. Musty, almost funky wild taste that is balanced with just a hint of bready malts.

Not quite up to par in the mouthfeel. The earthy/funky malts contribute to a grainy mouthfeel that keeps this from a bright, hoppy feeling ale you might expect from the taste, and especially the smell.

This is complex enough to keep you interested through a few, though this pour does not seem quite balanced.

Photo of Chriscrundwell12
3.58/5  rDev -12.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

10 oz pour on draft into a snifter.

A- One finger off white head, nice carbonation, some lacing, orange bronze color, nice lacing
S- Very similar to 1776 , malts upfront, hops are not as apparent, slight citrus and lemon, really bready and nutty.
T- Tastes exactly as it smells, sweet and slight bitterness, malts take over, bready and nutty, slight citrus and earthy notes.
M- Medium mouthfeel, moderate carbonation, easy drinkability, smooth.
O- Solid beer as usual from Town Hall, glad I was able to try it, easy drinking but nothing special.

Photo of trxxpaxxs
3.79/5  rDev -7.1%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Big thanks to LaCoursiere for sending me this brew...

A: Pours a translucent honey with shades of red and orange. There is about a half finger of pure white head that settles quickly. There is very little lacing as it drinks.

S: The smell of this beer is big bitter hops, caramel malt, rose, and rust. It starts out ok, but it's terrible as it warms.

T: There is a nice initial kick of hoppy bitter, but that doesn't last too long. I'm bombarded by floral and citrus notes. There is a big malt undertone, but it ends with is huge grapefruit kick.

M: Medium bodied beer. Big bitters up front and a dry finish.

O: I'm not overly impressed by this beer. I might even be a bit disappointed.

Photo of vette2006c5r
3.82/5  rDev -6.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

1800 Old English pours a slightly dark golden color, with not much head. There was a nicely balanced malty/hoppy aroma. The taste is the same good balanced between hops and malts, but still bold flavors. Good full body, and strong flavors, and has a good dry finish. Overall a nice potent English style IPA.

Photo of MasterSki
3.85/5  rDev -5.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

On-tap at Minneapolis Town Hall. Served in a pint glass.

A - Served with a finger of eggshell foam that settles to a thin cap and leaves some lacy fingers. Lightly hazed golden orange body.

S - Smells like an English IPA? Sweet honey and lightly toasted malts mingle with floral hops and a kiss of lemon zest.

T - Taste is a little more bready and zesty. Some nice caramel malt and floral character. Where's the bitterness?

M - Medium-low carbonation, medium body, clean finish. This batch was listed at 7.7% and I couldn't sense any alcohol.

D - Very easy to drink, but not something I'd go out of my way to revisit. There's an interesting historical aspect to this, and the 200+ year old recipe actually yielded a pretty solid brew.

Photo of ADR
3.87/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

On tap at the brewpub...

Hazy apricot color, floating and flat yellowish head, fairly thin. Laces in sheets but with very thick ropes. Spicey sort of pumpkin pie aroma. Thick mouthfeel but lots of carbonation. Cinnamon hot flavors, resiny hops that are sprue-ridden and a licorice and caramel mixture to the malt flavors. gets a bit sweeter on further sips with plenty of aftertaste. An interesting beer, heavier with a more distinct yeastiness than I thought I was going to get with lots of flavor -- but it plays out very different. Becomes somewhat peppery and almost like celery greens at the end of the glass.

Photo of boomer31
3.88/5  rDev -4.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Got growler on 7/3 and took THB advice to fill up before the Holiday.

A - Beautiful transparent gold with white lacing that slides down the glass as the beer disapears.

S - Given the style of beer I wasn't expecting a hop bomb so I was pleasantly surprised by the grassy and herbal nose. Not overpowering by any means but its their. There is also perhaps a hint of alcohol but it may also be the hops playing tricks on me.

T - The grassy hops hit first and the bitterness lingers through til the end. Nice malt back especially as it warms but the hops are the main character in this beer. Very nicely done.

M - Nice light carbonation and smooth. Feels like a 7% ABV IPA should taste on tap.

D - This is a great beer on a hot muggy day like today. The hops are present but not overpowering. The growler will be gonge soon and refilled with Masala

Overall another nice offering from THB. I opted to take this home vs Masala and I'm not disappointed at all. I'm usually not a fan of English pale ales but the bitterness in this keeps me satisfied.

Photo of younger35
3.88/5  rDev -4.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Another Saturday, another pint at good ol' Town Hall. Drank from a generic pint glass.

Appearance- Pours a light orange yellow with a nice one finger creamy off-white head. A decent cap and collar remains along with a bit of random spotty lacing.
Smell- Fairly fruity (which surprised me considering the hops) with a lightly earthy berry like smell. I'd almost say juniper berries or something of the sort. Not sure if this is dry hopped but I'd be surprised if it wasn't. Maybe a little bit of grassiness mixed in for good measure too. Check that - as it warms it smells really grassy.
Taste- Big bite of hoppy goodness right from the get go with an herbally and earthy bit of numbing. The hops don't taste nearly as fruity as they smelled as the bitterness is fairly grassy with a light peach undertone. Dandelion greens and maybe a touch of pine sap sneak in. The malt backbone adds just a touch of honey like sweetness for the hops to play on but still let them dominate. Finish is bitter with a lingering bit of lemon pith and more grass.
Mouthfeel- Nice and hefty with a thick oily feel and nice numbing hoppiness.
Drinkability- Pretty tasty but I'm just not a giant of the English style hops. They are too earthy and dank for my tastes as I tend to like the fruitier versions. Saying that though, the beer is still tasty and I had no problem enjoying this brew.

Photo of tjkinate
3.92/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Had been waiting a long time to travel up to Minnesota and check out this brewery's beer.

A: First off I noticed this IPA had a striking orange amber color that resembled an american hefe, it was topped with a meager white one finger head that dissipated quickly and only exhibited average lacing.

S: Highly malted with only hints of floral hops, sweet honey was also very prevalent.

T: Fairly sweet IPA, with lower amounts of bitter hops than most of this variety.

M: Fairly average for the variety

O: I enjoyed this unique tasting beer, showed me this brewery isn't content with making their beers taste like all the rest.

Photo of Wisconsinality
3.93/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Had at Town Hall Brewery.

A- A nice deep burnt orange with a slight haze to it. About a finger's worth of head to it that left a nice cap on the beer and left some great lacing on the side of the glass.

S- The predominant scents were that of some malt and some dark fruits. The hops were barely even noticeable. This one reminded me of an English Barleywine.

T- The sweetness of the malt was the first thing my tongue identified. The hops are pretty well hidden and there is a hint of some dates and maybe even black cherry.

M- What beer from a cask is all about. It has made this beer tremendously smooth with a medium to full body. That's really all I can say about it, smooth.

D- Goes down very easy and that's what it is all about. A pretty good offering from Town Hall.

Photo of Boilermaker88
3.95/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a 64oz growler bestowed upon me by feloniousmonk. This English-styled IPA had a lightly hazed coppery color, a firm, resilient white head that lasted throughout, and a huge volume of tight, fine carbonation.
The nose had a robust citrusy bitterness which surpassed the milder caramel and soft malt aromas.
The taste had an immediate and pungent bitter flavor; lots of grapefruit rinds and the pithy innards of citrus fruit vice the actual juicy fruit itself. This brew lays on the bitter in a big way!! Some biscuity malt and light caramel flavor try to provide a countering sweetness but it's really all in vain. The bittering has a leafy, fresh taste that's nice but in the end it still has a rather harsh tone to it. The feel was medium in body, lushly creamy to start and then Sahara-like in dryness, further withering the tongue.
Overall, I enjoyed this offering from Minneapolis Town Hall. It's interesting to try a brewer's attempt at bringing back a recipe from the past. Taking that information into consideration, I imagine 1800 Old English IPA could stand a bit of time on a boat (or a cellar) to take the harsh edge off the hoppiness. Still, a darn tasty brew.

Photo of tempest
4/5  rDev -2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On-tap at the brewpub. Appears a hazy gold-amber with a short white head. This beer is basically a British IPA with the hops dialed to 11 or 12. They're big, but just balanced enough to keep this drinkable, with grassy, herbal, citrus rind and a slight bready malt backbone. If you dig english hops, this beer is for you. Certainly more an American IPA than British, but a fun beer to drink.

Photo of BeerBuilder
4/5  rDev -2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours to a deep golden color with a minimal white head. The aroma is spicy hops and a bit of fruity citrus hops. A nice solid malt backbone. A bit of alcohol is in the aroma too. The flavor is malty with a spicy noble hop flavor. It is medium in body and very balanced. A nice clean beer, with a slightly drying bitter finish.

Photo of HopDerek
4.03/5  rDev -1.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured a clear golden yellow color with 1 finger of bubbly white head, good retention and great sticky lacing. Smells of grass, floral hops, biscuit, honey, and light citrus notes. Tastes of grapefruit up front briefly followed by lightly toasted grain and biscuits. Finishes with a touch of lemon, dry grass, and pine. Medium in body with nice strong fizzy carbonation. Sweet, malty, and bitter with a great balance. A good English style IPA with a little American twist to it.

Photo of woosterbill
4.05/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

On-tap at the brewpub.

A: Clear amber body under a finger of frothy, persistent off-white head. Strong retention, decent lace. Attractive.

S: Whoa - that's a Barleywine: toffee, caramel, and floral hops. Simple, sweet, and enjoyable.

T: Super malty, with toffee, caramel, toast, marmalade, and finally some substantial hops bitterness. Simple and good, but much more like an American Barleywine (albeit with English hops) than any IPA.

M: Fairly full body with lots of soft carbonation. Lovely.

O: If you want something that tastes like a Barleywine but can be consumed in greater quantities, check this one out. Tasty stuff.

Cheers!

Photo of Weli
4.06/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

A- Pale copper colored pint, with ok clarity and half inch of white to off white head

S- Subtle and subdued English hop character, very floral and spicy.

T-Very spicy almost peppery hop flavor, with a mild earthy character, Interesting mix of hops and wood flavors, malt is pleasing, but mainly stay in the background

M- Medium bodied medium carbonation, Dry finish

O-Really interesting IPA, cool drinking an interpretation of a historic beer recipe

Photo of Thorpe429
4.07/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

On tap at Town Hall in June 2010. Reviewed from notes.

Pours a nice golden color with a bit of a white head. Very minor lacing as this goes down. The nose is nice with some floral and earthy hops. A tiny amount of grass in the background. There's a bit of malt underlying the taste on this, but not really all that much. Light bread. Mostly some nice, earth-driven hops with a slight floral presence. Good bitter feel. This drinks quite well. Town Hall can do no wrong with hops.

Photo of ThePeskyDingo
4.08/5  rDev 0%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

picked up a growler of this about 2 weeks ago, and finally am gettin the chance to crack it.

Pours a clear rusty orange color with an off white 1.5 finger head. Shows small carbonation.

Smells of lots floral hops with a good malt profile coming in through the background.

Tastes of very bitter floral hops flavor right off the bat which moves into the malts which have a bready slightly toasty taste to them.

Mouthfeel is very smooth and creamy with light, fine carbonation. Body feel of the beer is on the mid to upper part of the medium side. Finishes pretty clean.

Drinks very nicely. Just opened the growler tonight and will probably finish it.

Photo of mentor
4.08/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Thanks to feloniusmonk for picking up this growler for me in January 2005. Pours a 4-finger cream-colored head over a nearly crystal clear light orange-rust colored liquid. Smell is very mild, mostly of oranges but with some caramel and a bit of rough 'grassy' hop. This smells like an enticing sweet orange candy. The prevailing taste is hoppy bitter, but the kick on this bitter is wonderfully tamed by a smooth creaminess. Additional searching revealed oranges, peaches, and mango (I must say, this is the first time I've ever detected mango flavor in a beer). I find a grassy rough hop character that could be a bit more moderated. Mouthfeel is medium-thick and this is complemented by the afore-mentioned creaminess. Too bad my glass is already empty.

Photo of barleywinefiend
4.12/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

A: Poured a golden-orangish color with a white whispy leaving behind some moderate lacing, faint bubbles..

S: Herbal, bready with some floral notes

T: Initial taste is a bit herbal with floral hop notes riding on the back of a bready malt base. A little bit of lingering bitterness on this but mainly on the back end/finish.

M: Low-medium bodied, well carbonated

O: Traditionally not a fan of the style but if I were to drink a modern day English IPA it would be this one. Very good.

Photo of cokes
4.13/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Iridescent daffodil, under a milky, never-ending, never fading tide of white.
Smells of peaches, but only the fuzzy dehydrated skins, all butchered and impaled upon stakes of rusted iron, hung above tapestries of toasted pale malts and reaching tendrils of booze...which only grow higher and higher as the brew gains warmth.
Begins dry, full of toasted English muffins patted gently with butter. Fruitiness appears through phantoms. Misty shrouds of oranges, apricots, and red apples. Perky minerality foreshadows the quinine and lemon rind hop bombast. Alcohol is noted on the finish with its lingering gin like cues.
Lowly and appropriately carbonation. Starts a bit sparse and scattered, but congeals as it warms into a focused English Hop bomb.

In the true spirit of a circa 1800 IPA, this particular growler took a circuitous and adventurous rout to my doorstep. It was well worth the wait. Many thanks to Captain 'Monk for the trusty vessel. Ahoy!

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1800 Old English IPA from Minneapolis Town Hall Brewery
91 out of 100 based on 99 ratings.