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1800 Old English IPA - Minneapolis Town Hall Brewery

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BA SCORE
91
outstanding

93 Ratings
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Ratings: 93
Reviews: 45
rAvg: 4.09
pDev: 10.27%
Wants: 17
Gots: 0 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Minneapolis Town Hall Brewery visit their website
Minnesota, United States

Style | ABV
English India Pale Ale (IPA) |  8.20% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
Recreated from an IPA recipe Mike Hoops found from the year 1800. The recipe was altered slightly with the british style hops additions (5 lbs per barrel) spaced out more during the boil to allow the beer to be drinkable now instead of months after a sea voyage.

(Beer added by: feloniousmonk on 07-30-2004)
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Photo of surlyseth
4.88/5  rDev +19.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Had a Masala Mama pint and took this growler for the road.

A: IPA-looking. Quite clear from the growler. Nice loose head. Some lacing, but not much.

S: Floral, but a tinge of earthy goodness.

T&M: Wow. Mostly AIPA'ish, but definitely some English dankness with the Kent and Fuggles. Soooo nice. Hop Head delight, but a nice change from all the citric, piney C varieties I've been chasing.

D: Restraint is an arduous, ongoing process with this one.

One of the best ever, for me.

surlyseth, Jun 11, 2008
Photo of mnstorm99
3.38/5  rDev -17.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Dark gold pour with a nice white head that laces well throughout the experience.
Aroma is floral, but I am not getting much other than the nice hop aroma.
Taste has some light carmel, and biscuit. The hops come through but mostly bitter, flavors are floral and citrus from the hops though.
Mouthfeel seems a little thin, but only for my preferance in an IPA. Maybe even a little over carbonated.
Drinkability, this is a nice beer, but I am not going to rush for another one. It seems a little off in the balance between Bittering, flavor and aroma hopping. This is more of a cross between an EIPA, and an AIPA, which is good in my book.

mnstorm99, Jun 09, 2008
Photo of HopDerek
4.03/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured a clear golden yellow color with 1 finger of bubbly white head, good retention and great sticky lacing. Smells of grass, floral hops, biscuit, honey, and light citrus notes. Tastes of grapefruit up front briefly followed by lightly toasted grain and biscuits. Finishes with a touch of lemon, dry grass, and pine. Medium in body with nice strong fizzy carbonation. Sweet, malty, and bitter with a great balance. A good English style IPA with a little American twist to it.

HopDerek, Jun 07, 2008
Photo of KarlHungus
4.6/5  rDev +12.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

This beer pours a hazy reddish bronze color. The head is one inch in height, and recedes slowly into nice lacing. The aroma is of a flower bed with hints of grass and grapefruit. The taste is a balance of soft floral notes, and a firm bitterness. The aftertaste is long and vibrant. The mouthfeel is medium bodied with lively carbonation. Overall, this is a very good IPA. I don't think it is as good as the Mama, but how many beers are? However, I am a huge fan of English IPAs, and find this one to be a great change of pace if you are in the mood for something hoppy, but different.

KarlHungus, Dec 23, 2007
Photo of dogger6253
4.8/5  rDev +17.4%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

This beer is cloudy as all hell! It's got this sort of milky-honey color to it, darker mocha-like shade near the bottom. The thick inch of head lasts forever. Looking at it after it settles a bit, kind of looks like maple syrup. The lacing left behind is most ultimate, totally covering the sides of the glass.

A nutty smell mixed with some hops: almond, cashews and pine nuts with bits of honey, raisins and ginger perhaps.

I was amazed at how fruity this is! Hops take the foreground, but there definite notes of orange in here as well, even a lime kind of tang to it. Nutty flavor, malty-sugary sweetness, kind of buttery too.

So creamy, so thick, so good. Absolutely amazing beer.

dogger6253, Sep 21, 2007
Photo of ppoitras
4.18/5  rDev +2.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Screw-cap growler provided via trade by Faro. Thanks for the opportunity.

Poured into an imperial pint glass, formed a 1" light beige head over the clear light amber brew. Frothy head lasts nicely, and laces that way as well, lots of foamy bits. Aroma is tangerine hops coupled with biscuity malt sweetness. Taste finds the same sweetness cut with plenty of hops bitterness, even more than I would expect for an English-style IPA, with notes of citrus. Mouthfeel and drinkability are both great. Another hit of a Town Hall IPA...

ppoitras, Jul 30, 2006
Photo of dfried
4.43/5  rDev +8.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Thick, slightly off white head sticks around for a while before fizzing into a ring, the body is caramel amber in color. The aroma has a malty character to it, but is mainly of an array of hops, first I got a pine-like floral smell, then a citrus/lemon peel zing. This is from a recipe from England in 1800, so it's hard to argue that it is an English IPA, but the taste is closer to what is now considered an American IPA. A good malty character, but not too caramel-like, fresh floral hops rule this beer, then start a bit more floral but end up really citrusy, a lot of orange flavor in the finish. Average 'good' mouthfeel, very drinkable. Maybe not one to put a lot of effort into seeking out, but it is a damn good beer.

Edit: the 2007 batch is awesome, I liked it more than the feeling I got reading through my '06 review, and I bumped its score up a bit. Good complex hop flavor.

dfried, Jul 17, 2006
Photo of ZAP
4.78/5  rDev +16.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Update-

This years batch is incredible. Just loaded with flavorful but not bitter hops....I'm getting a lot of fuggles and Hallertau....what a showcase for Eurupean hops....massive floral aroma....big firm body...sweet tasting blend of malts and hops....this is incredible...

2005 notes=4.1 rating

Rich golden color...big frothy head....big hops on the nose...strong citrus (oranges, tangerines, grapefruit)..

Taste is more balanced than I expected...a nice english malt backing but the hops still bat cleanup...not a real bitter beer, just a very fresh hop flavor...finishes a little dry and peppery..

Body is bigger than I expected...on the high side of medium..creamy mouthfeel...

Hell of a tasty IPA...a little bolder than most of the english IPA's I've tried but I'm not complaining.

ZAP, Dec 30, 2005
Photo of TheLongBeachBum
4.5/5  rDev +10%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Presentation: Yet another one of those funky brown Grolsch like, flip top, EZ Cap brown glass bottles. Has the number ‘1800’ in black pen scrawled on the white ceramic top. More imbibational goodness that found its way to Long Beach all the way from Minneapolis thanks to one of the Sites most awesome BA’s.

Appearance: Once the flip top was released there was little in the way of a release, I was a little worried, but I shouldn’t have fretted. Although this bottle was filled almost to the brim from a Growler, once poured into my 20 ounce Mug, the furry and pellucid peach body has a gorgeous off-white head which has a creamy texture and remains at a healthy and stiff ½” thick throughout. Some nice Saturn ring lacing persists. Above average carbonation, it survived the journey exceptionally well. Nice presentation!

Nose: I got the Hops as soon as I poured this one. A more detailed examination reveals pungent orange perfume, tangerines and a citric bitterness that benefits from a juicy acidic kick. Soft fleshy peaches and apricots mingle with some lightly toasted malts.

Taste: Very bitter start – juicy hops mix and intermingle with a stark acidic citric bite, the sort of effect you get from biting through orange/lemon rind before you hit the fleshy middle. Some very light malts, but barely enough to even affect the bitter hops, let alone offset them. Very dry and Bitter - with a strong orange peel middle, juicy hoppy finish. Very dry in the finish. Lingering juicy end.

Mouthfeel: A medium to full feel in the mouth, citric and sharp, juicy and somewhat tart, dry and yet fluid. Thick orange peel skid-marks on the tongue after the swallow. Hop juices abound.

Drinkability: Somehow clean and yet raw enough to entice and excite. Fresh and inviting, it just asks to be downed by the Gallon.

Overall: A solid, juicy, yet bitter IPA that has lots of tangerines and oranges to entice the Imbiber. Attractive and different, refreshingly nice to try an IPA that is not in yer face, but more in yer mind, this one makes you think, an intellectuals IPA so to speak.

A Big Huge Cheers to BigHuge for this lovely E-IPA. Worth seeking out.
They should bottle this one for the masses.

TheLongBeachBum, Jan 16, 2005
Photo of mentor
4.1/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Thanks to feloniusmonk for picking up this growler for me in January 2005. Pours a 4-finger cream-colored head over a nearly crystal clear light orange-rust colored liquid. Smell is very mild, mostly of oranges but with some caramel and a bit of rough 'grassy' hop. This smells like an enticing sweet orange candy. The prevailing taste is hoppy bitter, but the kick on this bitter is wonderfully tamed by a smooth creaminess. Additional searching revealed oranges, peaches, and mango (I must say, this is the first time I've ever detected mango flavor in a beer). I find a grassy rough hop character that could be a bit more moderated. Mouthfeel is medium-thick and this is complemented by the afore-mentioned creaminess. Too bad my glass is already empty.

mentor, Jan 14, 2005
Photo of ADR
3.88/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

On tap at the brewpub...

Hazy apricot color, floating and flat yellowish head, fairly thin. Laces in sheets but with very thick ropes. Spicey sort of pumpkin pie aroma. Thick mouthfeel but lots of carbonation. Cinnamon hot flavors, resiny hops that are sprue-ridden and a licorice and caramel mixture to the malt flavors. gets a bit sweeter on further sips with plenty of aftertaste. An interesting beer, heavier with a more distinct yeastiness than I thought I was going to get with lots of flavor -- but it plays out very different. Becomes somewhat peppery and almost like celery greens at the end of the glass.

ADR, Jan 09, 2005
Photo of Bighuge
4.65/5  rDev +13.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Hazed apricot orange tone. Nice looking off-white head. Lacing is spotty in nature but ample. The aroma is heavy on the hops. Earthy and pungent at the same time. Grassy and herbal. And the nose also contains sufficient malt tones to it. The beer feels great in the mouth. Medium-full body and a nice little prickle to it. The bitterness of this IPA is quite clean and nice. Not over the top, but it's fucking there. Hops impart some grassiness and herbal qualities. The malts are dripping in caramel and toffee sweetness. And I think it's the yeast that's giving some fruity tones of nectarine/apricot-like origin. Another damn fine brew from the Hall. What can I say. I'm lucky to live close to such a consistent high quality brewery/brewer.

Bighuge, Jan 05, 2005
Photo of BeerBuilder
4/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours to a deep golden color with a minimal white head. The aroma is spicy hops and a bit of fruity citrus hops. A nice solid malt backbone. A bit of alcohol is in the aroma too. The flavor is malty with a spicy noble hop flavor. It is medium in body and very balanced. A nice clean beer, with a slightly drying bitter finish.

BeerBuilder, Dec 31, 2004
Photo of TastyTaste
4.68/5  rDev +14.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This is what an EIPA should taste like (read: more like an American IPA). Glear copper color big off white head. Smell was grapefruit hops down to the core. Taste was very reminiscent of Masala, but there is a lot of citrus bitterness in here, hardly anything sweet. Hop levels are almost at a DIPA level, but the mouthfeel doesn't reinforce the higher ABV at all, as it is fairly thin (a welcome change, that I think adds tot he drinkability of this beer). Excellent offering, and was a good beer to get started with, after finishing with a pint of the abyssmal Festivus.

TastyTaste, Dec 31, 2004
Photo of cokes
4.13/5  rDev +1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Iridescent daffodil, under a milky, never-ending, never fading tide of white.
Smells of peaches, but only the fuzzy dehydrated skins, all butchered and impaled upon stakes of rusted iron, hung above tapestries of toasted pale malts and reaching tendrils of booze...which only grow higher and higher as the brew gains warmth.
Begins dry, full of toasted English muffins patted gently with butter. Fruitiness appears through phantoms. Misty shrouds of oranges, apricots, and red apples. Perky minerality foreshadows the quinine and lemon rind hop bombast. Alcohol is noted on the finish with its lingering gin like cues.
Lowly and appropriately carbonation. Starts a bit sparse and scattered, but congeals as it warms into a focused English Hop bomb.

In the true spirit of a circa 1800 IPA, this particular growler took a circuitous and adventurous rout to my doorstep. It was well worth the wait. Many thanks to Captain 'Monk for the trusty vessel. Ahoy!

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cokes, Aug 30, 2004
Photo of Boilermaker88
3.9/5  rDev -4.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a 64oz growler bestowed upon me by feloniousmonk. This English-styled IPA had a lightly hazed coppery color, a firm, resilient white head that lasted throughout, and a huge volume of tight, fine carbonation.
The nose had a robust citrusy bitterness which surpassed the milder caramel and soft malt aromas.
The taste had an immediate and pungent bitter flavor; lots of grapefruit rinds and the pithy innards of citrus fruit vice the actual juicy fruit itself. This brew lays on the bitter in a big way!! Some biscuity malt and light caramel flavor try to provide a countering sweetness but it's really all in vain. The bittering has a leafy, fresh taste that's nice but in the end it still has a rather harsh tone to it. The feel was medium in body, lushly creamy to start and then Sahara-like in dryness, further withering the tongue.
Overall, I enjoyed this offering from Minneapolis Town Hall. It's interesting to try a brewer's attempt at bringing back a recipe from the past. Taking that information into consideration, I imagine 1800 Old English IPA could stand a bit of time on a boat (or a cellar) to take the harsh edge off the hoppiness. Still, a darn tasty brew.

Boilermaker88, Aug 24, 2004
Photo of tavernjef
4.33/5  rDev +5.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

On-tap at the brewpub: Chill hazed pale yellow, a bit of a rusty orange to it in some light - thin but firm off-white cap, good lacing in thick strings sticks. Aroma is a bit subdued but crisp and fair of some dry leafy hops and biscuit malts. Touches some floral and citrusy things. Taste is where its at with this one. Calm and steady even bitterness from front to back, easy and crisp, with a pleasant tone of pale malts and the hops are floral to start. Ah but the finish, awesome in the return, spicy, herbal, dry with very slight touches of orange citrus pith. Excellent finish. Complex and full of hop character in flavor, but not so much in the bitterness. Bitterness is there though with a citric/floral aspect and keeps a good balance. Feel is clean and crisp with a medium, steadfast body and one fantastic finish of hops which lingers for a good while. Almost a tart-like citrus with a brazen dry spicy/herbal/ floral mix....nice...almost seemed like a super fine bitter then an IPA, but I guess I can see where this does fit a more English style IPA due to its dryer malt base then caramel. Yet another masterfully drinkable ale by Hoops at Town Hall.

tavernjef, Aug 07, 2004
Photo of feloniousmonk
4.5/5  rDev +10%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

For this beer, brewmaster Mike Hoops found an IPA recipe from the year 1800, and tried his hand at re-creating it, with with one little fudge. The hop additions (Fuggles, for sure, and maybe EK Goldings?) 5 lbs per barrel, were spaced out more during the boil than the original recipe called for, to make it more palatable and allow us to enjoy it now, rather than the length of a boat ride to Bombay.
So, let's drink 'er!

Lovely bright orange color. opaque and appealing, with a huge, creamy white head, (helped some by the Duvel glass I employ in this tasting).
Big, citric aroma, a mix of grapefruit, orange, peach and more, floral, sweet and sout, very arousing.
BAM! ooof! Kapow! This one grabs the palate and pulls it in for some major puckering! "Bitter much?" Powerful play in the mouth, very tart and citric. Mellows some after a while, leads into some juiciness, then it dries.
Well-balanced, but the hops are king here, not quite enough of a showing from the malty side, but it holds ground well enough. Long, bitter citric finish, lasts long in the tastebuds.
More fruit shows up throughout the glass, more peach, apricot, and also I'm noting some tiny green particles floating at the bottom. hmmm. It was a clean glass...I knew it was unfiltered, but never expected to find hop pieces floating about. Huh!
Damn, this is nice! I find myself thinking it's not like any English IPAs I've had, but yet it is one, it's made from all English ingredients. Perhaps the problem arises from how far afield they are today from their origins...well, we'll leave those matters for elsewhere and when, and just state that this is damned tasty, and I know that I'll be going back for more, while it lasts!

12-30...it's back! and it's better than ever!

feloniousmonk, Jul 30, 2004
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1800 Old English IPA from Minneapolis Town Hall Brewery
91 out of 100 based on 93 ratings.