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Founders Breakfast Stout - Founders Brewing Company

Founders Breakfast StoutFounders Breakfast Stout

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Ratings: 10428
Reviews: 3162
rAvg: 4.52
pDev: 9.07%


Brewed by:
Founders Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
American Double / Imperial Stout |  8.30% ABV

Availability: Fall

Notes/Commercial Description:
Brewed with flaked oats, bitter and sweetened imported chocolates, Sumatra and Kona coffee.
60 IBU
Released on Sept. 1, 2010.

(Beer added by: marburg on 07-26-2003)
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EmperorBevis

United Kingdom (England)

4.11/5  rDev -9.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

It's jet black
thick black body
with quite a rambunctious tan head that though diminishing
still covers the surface a good 90% and clings 3mm thick on the edges

Full on, good freshly ground coffee aroma with hints of dark chocolate and full tar red Marlboro

That buttery expresso that is somehow dreamy but in no way milky
that is here in the taste alongside a freshly opened golden Virginia roll up where the baccy is sticking out of the Rizla and you can taste the tobacco
some chocolate at the back.
Not the taste bulldozer I was expecting, however this meant it wasn't overbearing
a nice coffee level instead of almost gagging on imaginary grind that has leaked through a tattered cafetiere.

The mouthfeel is the best thing about this
downbeat carb, almost flat
and deceptively drinkable you forget the big 8.3 abv

Classic, undeniably and this has made me a happy camper
but not the world beater I was envisioning.

Serving type: bottle

02-13-2014 00:33:00 | More by EmperorBevis
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hansenm72

Wisconsin

3.73/5  rDev -17.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Good beer and will not hesitate to pick up a pack or two every year. Smell is a great coffee, chocolate. Taste is slightly bitter, not-so-slightly coffee with a tobacco-y hint to it. Good beer, not my favorite from Founders but they have so much great beer how can you choose?

Serving type: bottle

02-12-2014 20:34:00 | More by hansenm72
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DougT

Ohio

4.89/5  rDev +8.2%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.75

Poured gently down the middle of a Guinness Stout glass.

Black with 1 finger milk chocolate head of dense foam. Little lace but a nice layer of foam that lasts and lasts.

Smells of malt, roast, coffee, prunes, yeast, and hops. Wonderfully inviting aroma.

Sweet and bitter at the same time. Malt richness and hop bite with some smoke flavors along with coffee, chocolate, and some dark grain bitterness. Complex and very tasty. Aftertaste as good as the front, but where the front is more bitter the back is more balance. Can not detect the alcohol even at over 8%.

Full bodied, but not overpowering, smooth, rich and creamy, but with an effervescent fizz. This is what stout should be.

Inviting, refreshing, interesting and intriguing all at the same time. You want more as soon as you pour the first, but be careful. It may not taste it, but it's still a powerful brew!

Serving type: bottle

02-12-2014 05:18:01 | More by DougT
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OneEye78

Texas

4.46/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Drank from a bottle poured into a pint glass. Pours a nice black with little head. The smell is dominated by coffee with a hint of dark chocolate. Very complex taste, with a strong taste of coffee backed by bitter chocolate. This is a very smooth beer, and easy to drink, despite the strong flavor profile. The chocolate seems to add a bit of heft to the consistency, but not as chewy as some. Overall, this is a very enjoyable beer and a good mainstay for the winter months.

Serving type: bottle

02-11-2014 03:44:18 | More by OneEye78
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BeerFMAndy

Wisconsin

4.71/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

12 oz bottle poured into a Founders snifter.
8.3% ABV, 60 IBUs, Bottled on 11/25/13

A - Inky black in color, Breakfast Stout pours like day old bottom-of-the-pot coffee; quiet but thick and viscous, the only difference is the beer's tall, loose mocha head and all the lace it leaves caked to the snifter!

S - Gritty French-pressed coffee awakens the senses while dark chocolate-covered raisins melt in warm brown sugar-sprinkled oatmeal with vanilla bean ice cream. Smells like breakfast in a glass!

T - Black, heavily roasted coffee strikes bitterness at the heart of the milk chocolate under body while morsels of molasses coated oats, sticky raisins, and notes of burnt brown sugar trail through the background.

M - Bitter, black coffee thins out Breakfast Stout's otherwise viscous body, adding a gritty feel and dryness to the finish but the oats counteract and give the medium-full body a lush smoothness that leaves a lasting impression on the palate.

O - Breakfast Stout awakens the senses with a burst of French-pressed coffee backed by chocolate-covered raisins and warm oatmeal but the beer's viscosity isn't quite as rich as it might smell. The coffee addition works to thin things out with some dry bitterness leaving the beer a bit more drinkable as opposed to a throat-coating, sweet stout, at any rate, minus the bacon and eggs, this is breakfast in a glass.

Serving type: bottle

02-11-2014 01:20:32 | More by BeerFMAndy
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Flopjack

Michigan

4.5/5  rDev -0.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle into snifter

Appearance - Black with a thin and elegant white head that settles to a thin ring around the glass, nice lace.

Smell - Dark rich chocolate, strong coffee, aromatic roasty wood, caramel sweetness.

Taste - Very much in the order of the nose. Starts with a balanced and flavorful burst of rich dark chocolate bitterness. The bitterness keeps its presence while leading into more of a strong dark coffee roast. The end begins with smoky wood and caramel sweetness.

Mouthfeel - Medium-Full bodied, medium carbonation, somewhat refreshing but more so satisfying, smooth.

Overall - Fantastic beer. This beer is such a spectacular ride through a progression of flavors and characteristics that are mind blowing and most of all satisfying to the last drop.

Serving type: bottle

02-10-2014 04:21:49 | More by Flopjack
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ranger7

Texas

4.16/5  rDev -8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Poured from the bottle into a pint.
Review from notes: January 10th, 2014.

A: Dark and black, tan head with great lacing.

S: Toasted chocolate.

T: Rich. Very malty. Toasted chocolate with a somewhat bitter finish.

M: Foamy and thick.

O: This stuff is pretty rich and delicious. I may have rated this higher if I hadn't had higher expectations going in.

Serving type: bottle

02-09-2014 21:50:24 | More by ranger7
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alexspiller29

Kentucky

4.84/5  rDev +7.1%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

I found this breakfast stout to have a very good smell. It definitely had the aroma of chocolate and coffee in it. The taste is even better. The chocolate is rich but not over powering with a medium coffee flavor. The after taste is sweet and not as bitter as you would expect from a a beer with coffee flavor. Overall I would say this stout is fantastic for anybody that really enjoys a full body stout and coffee.

Serving type: on-tap

02-06-2014 19:52:51 | More by alexspiller29
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Patches0Who

Massachusetts

4.88/5  rDev +8%
look: 5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

Delicious hints of coffee, oat, chocolate, very rich full bodied creamy. On the first sip the chocolate and roasted coffee become very present followed by oats and smooth roasted malts on the backbone. Extremely smooth and easy drinking stout for 8% ABV, an all time favorite and go too in my book!

Serving type: on-tap

02-05-2014 05:00:21 | More by Patches0Who
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Jay_Ulreich

Indiana

4.38/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Rarely do I see something talked about as much as this beer and do I think it deserves the hype. This one takes the cake. It is cake. It is a chocolatey delicious coffee yummy amazing I probably WILL have one for breakfast tomorrow cake. Recently I saw a thread on "wow" beers. This is that beer for me. I want to give it all 5's. I do. But, nothing can ever reach that high. Its about the chase, man.
A- Black. I hold it up to the light and I can barely get a redish color at the very bottom peaking through. Great lacing. Odd colored head, well, I guess just not what I was expecting...Its a tannish gray color. (thats not a bad thing)
S- Ahhh.... breath-taking. Coffee, roastiness, chocolate... I find myself wanting to invent words. If I take a very long inhale through the nose of this beast, I can begin to detect the alcohol. But man is it just begging me to slam it down. I refuse! I MUST sip slowly and chew each mouthfull, to make it last as long as possible. Love.
T- As I said before, this beer is a piece of cake. Chocolate cake with hints of coffee. Again I want to invent words to describe it. You know the best dark chocolate youve ever had? The best Italian dark roast coffee you ever had? Best chocolate cake you ever had? Well, imagine a blend of that made into a beer, your other favorite thing. Thats actually a horrible description, as it is lacking in even beginning on how to project how great this really is...
M- I had to change it from 4.25 to 4.5. This is my ideal mouthfeel for this style. Other stouts bow down to its full chewyness. This brew is thick in the way that shes got T n A that are fat but in the best way and you love it. Can we just replace coffee with this beer? Lets replace her, too. If I could wake up to this every morning, lets just say Id be a wayyy nicer guy :)
Overall you MUST get this and sip it and love it. I had this years ago and dont quite remember it being this good. Founders, thank you.

Serving type: bottle

02-04-2014 03:41:55 | More by Jay_Ulreich
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Beric

Indiana

4.65/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Serving: Bottle into snifter
Served: 1 February 2014

Appearance: Pours a pitch black with a thick two finger brown head that collapses quite quickly due to the ABV. Leaves great lacing. Alcohol legs visible.

Smell: Fresh, dark roasted coffee, some milk chocolate sweetness.

Taste: Huge coffee notes followed by a sweet malt finish. The coffee is the dominant flavor on the palate and compliments the rest of the beer nicely. Chocolate sweetness comes in after the initial coffee blast, followed by a mellow, semi-dry finish. Warming alcohol.

Mouthfeel: Nice malt backbone and oatmeal give this beer nice body. Good carbonation- not too overpowering, but not exactly silky smooth either.

Overall: An incredible beer, especially for coffee lovers. An incredible beer. I'm cellaring one bottle from this year's barrelage to see how age changes this one. Highly recommend.

Serving type: bottle

02-04-2014 02:29:21 | More by Beric
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AUGRAD06

Alabama

5/5  rDev +10.6%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

So I had heard that founders breakfast stout is amazing. I didn't think it could live up to all the hype, but it has. This is a fantastic dark and smooth stout. Being a double chocolate stout I expected it to be on the sweet side, but it was perfectly balanced. Without a doubt my go to stout now. Absolutely fantastic. If you see it, get it. You will not be disappointed.

Serving type: bottle

02-02-2014 23:52:04 | More by AUGRAD06
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poolemhore

Maine

4.68/5  rDev +3.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

A - poured into your standard pint glass a dark brown/black color with a very thin (Less than a finger) brown head. Brown lacing on the glass persists through the drinking experience.

S - roasted and coffee notes and can smell the alcohol in there on this one.

T - excellent! Coffee and a bit of sweetness, maybe a hint of vanilla very light dancing around through the other flavors.

M - not too thick but definitely not light, just right. Smooth and more dry than wet.

O - this is an outstanding stout! Superb balance and very drinkable for its darkness and alcohol content. Perfect winter/spring beer in my opinion. I will definitely purchase this again.

Serving type: bottle

02-02-2014 18:01:28 | More by poolemhore
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Flounder57

Massachusetts

4.49/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

12 oz bottle was poured into a snifter.

Appearance: This beer poured a one finger mocha head that reduced to a thin layer. It Is a pitch black color with no clarity or vision of bubbles coming up through the glass. Mocha lacing down the glass as the beer was drank.

Smell: Roasted and earthy coffee, chocolate, bready oats, and smoke.

Taste: Coffee is definitely up from with sweet milk chocolate, ash, char, bready oats, and some mild bitterness.

Mouthfeel: Smooth, medium bodied, creamy, medium carbonation, chewy, super roasty, and delicious.

Overall: I have had this beer a lot lately in bottle and draft. Noticed I didn't review, so doing it before it's gone for the year. Thank goodness I have another four pack.

Serving type: bottle

02-02-2014 07:02:17 | More by Flounder57
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Carolvs

Texas

3.58/5  rDev -20.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Served out of four-pack bottle, Wilbraham, Massachusetts.

A - Impenetrable black with a slim toffee head.f

S - chocolate and coffee - exactly what's in it

T - sweet, definite taste of coffee and chocolate

M - thick, porridge-like

O - This is a very good beer, no doubt, but I fear that a bit of group-think has taken over on this one. A very clever marketing campaign seems to have overwhelmed people's sensibilities, if not the 8%+ alcohol content. Bottom line: I enjoyed it, I'll drink it again for sure, but perhaps it's not quite the apotheosis of brewing that some make it to be. For an all-around great stout that's also world class and a bit more affordable, try Samuel Smith's Oatmeal Stout.

Serving type: bottle

02-01-2014 20:42:00 | More by Carolvs
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HopAlongG

New Hampshire

5/5  rDev +10.6%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

I love this stout. 8.3%? You'd never know...drink and enjoy all night long. I'm not sure how a stout gets better than this. As soon as the thermometer drops below 30 feed me this every Friday night.

On tap or in the bottle...equally good. Founders has a beer god at the helm.

Serving type: on-tap

02-01-2014 02:36:49 | More by HopAlongG
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Bighead6365

New York

4.66/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

Such an overall amazing beer. There isn't anything that really isn't to like about it. I'm not sure how the alcohol is hidden, and I'm not sure how it drinks so smooth. I've had it on nitro, and in the bottle, and they are both great. Drink up and be merry.

Serving type: bottle

02-01-2014 01:33:42 | More by Bighead6365
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GCBrewery

Connecticut

4.56/5  rDev +0.9%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

A- Very dark out of the bottle, although great clarity with 1-2 cm visibility

S- Black coffee dominates, very bitter, maybe some burnt raisin

T- More bitter than I was expecting, I guess I shouldn't have been surprised though with unsweetened chocolate and coffee beans comprising most of the flavor profile. Easier to drink once the palate overcomes the initial bitter shock. Finishes very smooth with a long very dark chocolate aftertaste

M- Very pleasant, nice and full, creamy and clean. Just the way a good stout should be

O- A great stout overall, quite drinkable especially for the high ABV and intense flavor profile. Not my personal favorite, but I am certainly happy with the purchase

Serving type: bottle

02-01-2014 00:06:16 | More by GCBrewery
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HopBomb515

New Jersey

4.86/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

A - Jet black, thick looking pour, small tan head that leaves a fine tan cap and a little lacing on the drink down.

S - Espresso, coffee dominates the nose and reveals layers of chocolate, smoke, char and cereal grains.

T - coffee/espresso forward revealing bitter chocolate that rides an oat grain wave to a bitter finish with some char and roasted malt notes. Rich and complex.

M - Smooth! Creamy mouthfeel that's full bodied and brings just a slight carbonation kick.

O - This beer is amazing. Smooth, complex and rich. If coffee is your thing this is a must have.

Serving type: bottle

01-31-2014 02:27:56 | More by HopBomb515
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JasonLovesBeer

British Columbia (Canada)

4.19/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

Thanks to my friend Ashley for bringing this back from Philly, no such thing as Founders around here.

A: Inky black with brown edges, head is small and disappears to a ring fairly quick.

S: Bitter chocolate meets a powerful aroma of medium roast coffee grounds. Smells like I freshly ground a bunch and took a whiff. I'm used to just picking up generic coffee in beers but this stuff you can get much further into, picking out the roast quality and flavour of the coffee beans themselves. Strikes me as a light roast, which is perhaps less common than dark roasts in beer.

T: While I smell the coffee as I take a sip, the taste is almost exclusively baker's chocolate and granola bar to start things off for me. Only after a few seconds does the coffee come back. I get much better resolution on the coffee in the nose. Coffee comes across as a nutty medium roast to me.

M: Thinner than I expected from such a highly acclaimed stout. Compared to BCBCS or Ten Fidy, this stuff feels like water. But it IS creamy and rich, just not thick.

O: This stuff has powerful flavour all around, from the coffee to the chocolate and even the oats. I was surprised to find no detectable hop flavour really, but then again, there isn't any sweetness that it needs to counteract. This stuff is huge dark chocolate, huge coffee, and huge oatmeal. And almost nothing else at all. While I really enjoy it, I find myself a little surprised by its notoriety compared to some other big stouts.

Serving type: bottle

01-30-2014 05:08:07 | More by JasonLovesBeer
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mattm77777

Minnesota

4.44/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Bottled on 10/13/13, poured into a pint glass

A: Dark black, with a thin tan head that dissipates quickly. A great looking, midnight-oily beer, but in all honesty, stouts are usually all great looking beers.

S: Outstanding. Just like a Starbucks at first whiff, a nice deep roasty smell hanging subtly underneath.

T: I love it. Actually a bit disappointed at first, thinking that the coffee taste was overpowering the rest of the beer, but after a couple more sips, I could really pick up the chocolate and other subtle flavors. Missing the musty, leathery taste that downgrades other stouts for me, which is awesome.

M: Very pleasant.

O: Really a great beer. Makes the exact point that (I think) it is intending to. Very reasonably priced as well. Founders makes consistently better stouts than any other brewery I've tried.

Serving type: bottle

01-30-2014 03:25:25 | More by mattm77777
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funkengruven

Ontario (Canada)

4.86/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 5

Wow. where to start. My brother picked up some of these some time last year and they sat in my cellar since then. Figured I'd give one a go today. This poured a deep black with some tan head. Held to a desk lamp the light does not penetrate this brew. Smell is very nice, Chocolate and coffee dominate the nose here, (Smells like what the label says it should). Taste is nice and smooth, a bitter beginning with a strong chocolate body and a coffee finish. The coffee aroma stays with you a few minutes after you've already downed it, quite pleasant.

Fantastic.. Next time I take a trip south I'll be sure to bring back a few more of these.

Serving type: bottle

01-26-2014 23:28:24 | More by funkengruven
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shacawgo24

Illinois

4.96/5  rDev +9.7%
look: 4.75 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 5

A-Coffee brown-black. Put cream in your coffee and that is the color of the head, tan. Head is one finger thick, sudsy, and dies quickly. No lacing. But maybe with a double bottle serving instead of one, lace would appear and head would be thicker. Still, a dark beauty of a beer.

S-Dark cold coffee. Cocoa bean. Hot cereal. Oats. Milk. Leather. Tobacco. Ink. Brownie batter. Resinous. Hemp. Dark chocolate. Chocolate pretzels. Smoked meats. So many possibilities of smell detecting here. A litany can be compiled.

T-Tag team of coffee & chocolate wrestle on the palate. Molasses. Toffee. Charcoal smoke. Plum even. Cream of Wheat. Oatmeal. Cocoa Rice Krispies. Wheat grain. Ink. Resin. Hemp. Tobacco. Dark sour dried fruits: prunes and raisins. I think the beginning, middle and end is a uniform sip. You can take your time and pluck out multiple flavors one by one. The aftertaste is a mild sour. With inky vapors on the breath.

M-Perfect medium body. Spritz-y, bright low-medium carbonation is a constant. Always sizzles from start to finish. Goodness, this beer warms you when it is ICE COLD. That is the definition of perfect carbonation. Not a typical dead feeling stout, Breakfast Stout has life. Root beer float and/or milkshake sudsy feel is present, and yet is fluid enough to be soft and velvety. Nice sour alkaline aftertaste, gentle. Bitter resins on the after as well. The body does thin out though, feeling liqueur like with time. But the carbonation gives a consistent sizzle down your chest, like boiling sugar. Sticky. If the beer was thicker, consistently, this would be the best feeling beer around.

O-Possibly the best four-pack of beer you can buy. I like experimenting with the pours on this beer. Slow pour and it becomes a flavorful dark liqueur with no head. Hard pour and you get more of a stout look, with better head retention and lacing possibilities. This beer must be in a snifter or an oversized wine glass at all times, to impart better smells and expand better tastes. Top shelf. This beer doesn't have to be improved, but if the body were thicker and the head were as well, Breakfast Stout would be literally perfect. But what is perfect in life? Breakfast Stout is the epitome of NEAR PERFECT.

Serving type: bottle

01-26-2014 20:37:54 | More by shacawgo24
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BucannonXC5

California

4.43/5  rDev -2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Type: 12-oz. bottle
Glass: 8-oz. glass
From: Eddy’s Beverage Inc. in Saratoga, N.Y.
Price: $12.99 for a 4-pack
Purchased: Jan. 15, 2014
Consumed: Jan. 19, 2014
Misc.: Bottled on Oct. 19, 2013

Poured a dark mahogany, almost pitch black color with 2-to-3 fingers of tan head. Sporadic spots of above average lacing along the sides. Average retention.

Smelled dark chocolate, crayon, coffee, fudge, cocoa, oatmeal and faint brown sugar.

Tasted bitter coffee beans, dark chocolate fudge, crayon, sight smoky fire and oatmeal. So smooth.

Full body. Creamy texture. Average carbonation. Long, smooth finish.

This beer really grew on me as it went on. Just fantastic.

Serving type: bottle

01-25-2014 05:32:40 | More by BucannonXC5
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Cfeezy

New Jersey

4.1/5  rDev -9.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Picked up a 4 pack to try out and share with some friends.

A - Beer poured black as night without much life and had no head to speak of.

S - Nose is very, very nice; coffee and rich chocolate are prominent.

T - Taste is oaky/"oaty", chocolate, and coffee blended well. The various flavors are well balanced and not overdone as to overwhelm the beer.

M - Mouthfeel is expectantly flat without much life to it. It does, however, carry a nice feeling of density with it.

O - Overall this is a wonderfully crafted brew with tons of flavors throughout several layers of complexity. Would be curious to try a stout like this with a tad more carbonation, although not an option. Glad I tried it, not something I personally will be pining for though.

Serving type: bottle

01-24-2014 17:31:20 | More by Cfeezy
Founders Breakfast Stout from Founders Brewing Company
100 out of 100 based on 10,428 ratings.