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Founders Dissenter Imperial India Pale Lager - Founders Brewing Company

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Founders Dissenter Imperial India Pale LagerFounders Dissenter Imperial India Pale Lager

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Reviews: 181
Hads: 1,584
Avg: 4.08
pDev: 29.9%
Wants: 75
Gots: 304 | FT: 16
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Founders Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
American Double / Imperial Pilsner |  8.70% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: JohnGalt1 on 05-02-2014

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Photo of MHurley
4.16/5  rDev +2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Light in cold, orange with a nice size head, smell of tropical fruit. Lacing is thin and does not stick around to long. Taste im getting is more piney, lightly hopped.

Pretty good beer and id definitely drink again if i could find. Was lucky enough to pick one bottle up and a local store.

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Photo of dcotom
4.39/5  rDev +7.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

I found a bomber of this on a closeout shelf at the supermarket and figured it would be worth a try for the price. After I found out that it was a one-off, I wish I'd bought them out. Pours a light amber, with a malty aroma. Taste is somewhat sweet, with a lasting bitter finish and a nice bite from the alcohol. Hope to run across this one again.

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Photo of Jadjunk
3.88/5  rDev -4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

No label information. Dissenter Imperial IPL is brewed in the style of an India Pale Lager, released in 750 ml. and on limited draft as part of the Backstage Release series.

Poured from a 750 ml. bottle to a tulip glass. Served above 52 degrees Fahrenheit.

(Appearance) Pours a frothy foam head of a golden cream color over a moderately hazy golden amber body with light, relaxed carbonation. Retention is good and lacing is light and spotty. 4

(Smell) Hop aromas forward, floral, grassy and soft tropical fruit hops atop a clean pilsner and pale malt body with a mild sweetness, suggested ideally as an imperial pilsner for a moderately enhanced body. Potency is moderate. 3.5

(Taste) Sharply bitter up front, with pithy citrus peels, raw grass and resinous pine. A malt body of cracker malt with some mild pale malt sweetness and caramel underneath grants a soft body to rest on. This is a very hoppy lager forward with a strong bitterness throughout, but an enjoyable one that invites each subsequent sip. 4

(Mouthfeel) Texture is slick, silky, clean, moderately dry. Carbonation is moderate, generating a medium frothiness and a moderately crisp finish. Body is medium+ for the style, medium+ overall. Balance is moderately bitter over sweet. Alcohol presence is mild and there are no off characters. 4

(Overall) Dissenter is a fine example of Founders talents expanded into the Lager scene, in profiles where the brewery has not experimented in quite some time, but this beer, simple as it may seem amongst the Backstage Series lineup, is a soundly crafted IPL with an excellent and boldly bitter hop profile and reserved but substantial enough malt body to appropriately pair. The heightened price may make some craft beer drinkers wary of purchasing a 750ml. bottled lager, but I think it warrants a try especially if it can be found on draft, where the price may be far more reasonable. 4

Founders Brewing Company's
Dissenter Imperial IPL

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Photo of do_ob
4.08/5  rDev 0%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bomber into a pilsner glass. I don't get to use these glasses enough! Pours a hazy golden with lots of carbonation. 2 finger head of white, sticky foam rests on top, and eventually fades into a lacing about half way through. This beer...smells like marijuana. Not even joking, this beer reeks of skunk weed. I'm not a smoker, but damn, this thing smells awesome. Also some hints of grapefruit and orange in there somewhere. Light weight, and very crisp and clean mouthfeel. Lots of hops up front with a decent bitterness. Malty on the back end. A little bitterness hangs around for the aftertaste.

In a blind taste test, not sure I could tell this apart from an IIPA, but it does have a bit of a hop-to-malt character with little taste in between. More malt-forward as it warms up, but IMO, it's best consumed cold. I feel like this beer was made to get you drunk on a nice, summer evening with no questions asked. 8.7%, but by the bottom of the bottle, you'll swear it was 11%. Good stuff.

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Photo of mchegash
3.13/5  rDev -23.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25

Appearance - 4/5
Pours a nice golden-orange-amber color. Extremely clear. About 1 finger of slightly beige foam head. A small amount of carbonation can be seen rising slowly to the top.

Smell - 3.5/5
Pine citrus hops, lemon, another flavor I can't pick out. Basically it smells like an IPA. I assume the lager-ness will come out more in the taste.

Taste - 2.75/5
Still taste like an IPA. Pine citrus flavors, and the beer is kinda syrupy and has a weirdly sweet taste. Don't really like it. I know there is a difference in how the brewing happens for an IPA vs. and IPL, but you could have told me this was an IPA and I would have been none the wiser. Kinda disappointed, was hoping for something more lager-y.

Mouthfeel - 3/5
Fairly syrupy, though the sip crisps up near the end. Medium-bodied. Light to medium carbonation. Quite bitter, but still fairly smooth.

Overall - 3.25/5
I was not really a big fan of this beer. My best succinct description of it would be "a syrupy IPA".

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Photo of Tucquan
3.99/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Had this on 2015-03-07 in Clarksville, IN from a bomber bottle

A - Hazy golden-orange with a short while head and mild lace.

S - Peach, mango, candied orange, rising bread, floral. Sweet.

T - Lightly toasted sourdough bread with tart orange marmalade. Herbal, and plenty bitter.

M - Medium body and carbonation. Smooth going down but prickly in the aftertaste.

O - Nice combination of flavors. More bitter/aggressive than Sierra's Hoppy Lager. The candied fruit sweetness in this beer saves it from being too bitter. I like it.

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Photo of dukeandduke
4.05/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

2/20 Bottle - Nice solid golden clean pour with a clean white head. Smelled of orange, lemon, and fruity hops. Tasted somewhat bitter, hoppy which I enjoyed it a lot. Higher carbonation than expected, it good drinking. The beer felt stronger/ more intense afterward than I expected based on the ABV, but clean taste and smooth going down. This is another very good offering by Founders, and I look forward to more pours of this and other offerings down the road

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Photo of Ego
3.58/5  rDev -12.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

the head is jumping out of the bottle like a jack Russel in pursuit, almost three fingers of soapy white asteroid-esqe head (I think I saw han solo hiding in there but I'm not sure), golden straw glowing hue, plenty of carbonation mixes around, lacing is super nice as well as the head retention (barely dropped one finger of height while I spewed out all this blather)

grainy with hints of orange, dry yeast, slight green hops playing with the orange notes, mild but nice (more like an APA really)

taste etc...
after the first sip I am swept off in a tide of hop after glow that really... really... lingers, slightly fruity, the carbonation kind of kicks in late, this is some ultra smooth ass stuff here, the body has just enough heft to have weight but is light enough to forget you are sipping a near 9% brew, in a way it's non descript with some nice highlights

hoppy in the back end, smooth and easy to drink... but for me it was like some movies that won best picture, I get what went into it and how well it is executed, but it just does not speak to me

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Photo of TBoneJones
4.48/5  rDev +9.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Pilsner glass poured: Very clear golden body, thin appearance, frothy white header, little visible carbonation and decent lacing.
Smells hoppy and grainy and fantastic. Floral, fruit of cherry/ pineapple, pilsner malts, peanut-butteresque dank resin. No detectable alcohol.
Taste is grain and mineral with a healthy balance of dank hops flavoring, with biscuit and just a hint of the fruit-laden nose, and with the extra bitterness that usually follows well-hopped beers. Subtle burn at the end, but clean sipping throughout.
Smooth and crisp. Medium body, somewhat dry finish.
Overall, a superb Founders limited brew that has a bitter, earthy, fruit-hinted hop-bite, and sips quite well despite it seeming at times to exceed the 8.7% abv. as labeled. To me it seems a fine line between a DIPA and an IPL (as this is labeled). Dissenter's hop profile reminds me of Stone's Enjoy By. That's a great thing.

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Photo of SHODriver
4.25/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

A: poured into a pilsner glass to a fairly hazy yellow topped by a finger of dense white head that retains well
S: smells of citrus, pine, orange marmalade and a light honey sweetness. slightly resinous
T: taste is citrus rind, pine oil, a little orange, slight bready malt and some faint sweetness hop resin as well. swallow is a little orange marmalade, and more resinous pine and citrus
M: lighter side of medium on the palate with slightly prickly carbonation. The finish on this beer is oily hops and is overall refreshing
O: This is a great IPL. Great hop flavors and the malt struggles to balance. decent complexity and a solid mouthfeel as well. Not a lot of clarity but I won't hold that against it. If you like clean hoppy beers this is a good one to try.

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Photo of stephens101
4.34/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Golden yellow with a sprightly white head. Smells vociferous with pine, melon, and citrus zest. Tastes of more citrus and other light fruits. Slight chalk and cracker in the middle. Full on pine in the finish. Has a medium, well-rounded body. Alcohol asserts itself in the end. A grand example in a style that shouldn't work but does.

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Photo of lilsmizzul1225
4.24/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

An interesting concoction from Founders in a relatively new style: the India Pale Lager. It's hoppy and bitter in the beginning like an IPA but the maltiness comes in and mellows it out on the finish like a real lager. Fairly good and worth a try!

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Photo of M_C_Hampton
3.92/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: poured from a 750 ml bottle into a pint glass, pale golden colored with a foamy white head that lingers leaving good lacimng, clear

S: heavy on pine and citrus hops, big aggressive nose, floral reminiscent of a west coast IPA

T: heavy on bitter hops, grapefruit peel, grassy, light grain sweetness

M: surprisingly light for the alcohol content which is well hidden

O: nice crisp hoppy version of the hybrid style

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Photo of infinitebruner
3.8/5  rDev -6.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

January 12, 2015

750 ml, pilsner glass

A – Deep straw to medium gold. About a half inch of white bubbly foam, moderate retention. Mostly clear with a little bit of chill haze.

S – Prominent hop aroma, grapefruit and mango, along with passion fruity. Slightly bready, malty sweetness. Fairly clean, but very similar to an IPA.

T – Passion fruit, perhaps some kiwi, mango, and a lot of hop bitterness. Not much coming from the malts, also some floral notes.

M – Moderate to moderate-low carbonation and mild malt sweetness, but high, high level of bitterness carries throughout. Dry and bitter finish, demanding the next drink.

O – Very much like an IPA, but with mostly absent malt character, allowing hop aroma, flavor, and bitterness to be showcased. Bitterness might be a bit out of whack, but this is a very good imperial pilsner, a lot more interesting than I expected.

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Photo of Phocion
4/5  rDev -2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Notes scribbled on scratch paper I discovered in a jacket pocket. No date on the review but if my memory serves me correctly it was Octoberish.

750ml bottle poured into glass a clear, fairly light gold color with two fingers of retentive white foamy head. Solid sheets of clingy lacing.

Hop-forward aroma. Tons of fruits; grapefruit, lemon, tangerine, and berries. Zesty and a touch of floral notes. Lightly sweet grainy maltiness.

Flavor is slightly more balanced, but still malt-forward. Light bitterness along with floral and piney hops, plus the massive fruitiness in the nose. Somewhat of a juicy sweetness along with a generic grainy sweetness and fairly high alcohol flavors. Luckily there's a bit of astringency to balance it out. Clean.

Medium body and fairly highly carbonated. Crisp but warming (due to ABV) mouthfeel.

Overall this isn't a style I'm usually fond of, but this beer was good. Not something I'm going crazy over, but still enjoyable.

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Photo of Barnoloid
4.06/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Brings out some deep hop notes amidst a clean palate and crispy smooth mouthfeel. Light floral feel on the nose. Bold and layered. There is an IPA feel but this is rooted firmly in the lager camp, which sort of makes it an odd and unique hybrid. A diversion from the usual Backstage series offerings but worthy of a look nonetheless.

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Photo of scootny
4.02/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22 oz bottle. A hazy deep golden liquid with a large firm white head. Nose is initially a topical fruit bouquet, some dough like malt and a bit of heat. Taste is much the same. clean pilsner malt and yeast leave plenty of room for the hops and they cascade in wave after wave of pine and tropical cones. As a pils there isn't much to counter the hop onslaught and that's OK. Finish is lager clean and dry, short and refreshing. Hops oil lingers as well. A hint of alcohol. Feel is imperial lager, thick across the tongue and an easy drinking swallow. Finish is lightly minted and a phantom of malt. Leafy and faintly fusel. This stuff is quite drinkable as I went through the bottle in short order.
A solid take on the style.

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Photo of angrybabboon
4.14/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Consumed 12/30/14, with some unusually strong memories of drinking this beer when it was fresher, back on 9/7/14, when I thought I already reviewed this

A: Light chill haze, tangerine-gold in color - pours with a medium-sized, white head, leaves some really nice lacing

S: Rich, ripe, well-rounded citrus - juicy, ripe orange, ruby red grapefruit, and grapefruit flesh and juice - very floral - resinous and lightly leafy - some mint - pale, clean malts, bread dough, and a faint touch of alcohol

T: An abundance of ripe citrus - ripe orange, ruby red grapefruit, grapefruit - flesh, juice, and some zest - herbal and resinous with some pine - pale malts with some caramel - white bread and bread dough - fairly clean overall, with a touch of booze that works oddly well with the flavor profile

M: Medium to full body, very smooth, nicely carbonated, easy to sip or drink like it were not almost 9%

O: I assent

This was great the first time I imagined reviewing it, and it's remarkably still great nearly 4 months later. This might still be worth picking up if it's collecting dust on a shelf. It does not reach the glory of some of the hoppy lagers from Jack's Abby, but that's not really a fair comparison.

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Photo of FLima
3.9/5  rDev -4.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Bright golden color with a thin head with short retention.
Nice hoppy aroma with notes of grapefruit, mango, caramels, pine and flowers.
Bitter flavor with notes of caramels, grapefruit, perfume, mild grass, lots of lager yeast, honey, soap, grass and minerals. Dry aftertaste with a long lasting bitterness.
Light to medium body with appropriate carbonation. Alcohol of 8.7% is felt but it is harmonic with the overall beer.
Nice Imperial IPL with a clear bitterness backed by a good deal of caramel malts. I found the Fathom a bit better, maybe it is less sweet.

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Photo of bott
4.24/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Finally got my hands on a bomber of this in Dec. '14 (ie, not terribly fresh). Still, very impressed with hoppy, highly floral aroma (with a hint of a soapy/piney backbone) on the front end, followed by a hop-wallop that dissipated nicely into a heavy Pilsner-like finish that was more like a smooth, slightly barley-ish finish. Overall, a very enjoyable IPL, though not quite up to the standard of others (esp. those from Jack's Abby, which are the obvious gold standard). All the same, I'd be in favor of Founders adding this to the yearly seasonal 4-pack rotation along with Backwoods Bastard and Dark Penance.

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Photo of Pencible
3.93/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3 | overall: 4.25

A: This poured a nearly clear gold with a little white head.
S: It smelled like citrus zest and copper, with some floral hops.
T: It tasted like fresh grapefruit and floral hops, with some copper and sweet honey. It had a clean bitter aftertaste with a little alcohol warning.
M: It was somewhat thick with lots of carbonation. Fizzy body.
D: This was a great IPA, not sure about the lager part. Great crisp scent and taste. The body was only ok, and the finish was a little hot, so it was better to sip. Still, a delicious brew.

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Photo of secondtooth
3.78/5  rDev -7.4%
look: 3.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Appearance: Hazy golden. Slight head. Virtually no lace.

Aroma: Intense hoppy citrus and floral. Pungent and strong on the hops tip. I expect big things!

Taste is potent. Intense bittering citrus hops. Booze is hidden well in this wallop of a lager. Would easily double as a high-octane IPA. Hop-hounds flock to this one, others steer clear.

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Photo of Franziskaner
3.84/5  rDev -5.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Rich golden colored with good clarity. A fingernail of off white heads covers the top. Brussels lacing. Lucious aroma of grapefruit emerges from the glass. The taste is very much as advertised by the nose. Grapefruit like flavor with a very smooth finish. The malt is dulled due tot lagering. Very easy drinking hop forward beer,but the back of the palate is pretty tame.

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Photo of beerdrifter
4.54/5  rDev +11.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.5

Slightly hazy yellow-orange pour with a one finger pure white head with decent retention and nice lacing. The nose is fruity, floral, and hoppy with a bold malt profile complementing. Hints of pine, caramel, grass, mango, and butterscotch. The taste follows suit with loads of bitter, resiny hops up front along with hints of pine, caramel, grass, pineapple, mango, brown sugar, and grapefruit. The mouthfeel is chewy and oily with incredible balance and drinkability and a smooth, tangy, bittersweet finish. Overall, this beer really shocked me. So bold and flavorful, balanced and drinkable. Kicking myself for not picking up more of this. Highly recommended!

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Photo of BeerDawgs
4.2/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

A 22oz bomber picked up at Greens, Buford HWY Atlanta, GA

L - Bronze yellow with clarity, 1 finger of head and no lace left on the glass

S - Bitter hops dominate, and thats all I get!

T - Bitter Hops, and lager malts. Nice combo. Very tasty!

F - Light bodied and fully carbonated.

O - A tasty brew. I would consider it a side project of a DIPA. Well done though.

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Founders Dissenter Imperial India Pale Lager from Founders Brewing Company
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