Founders Dissenter Imperial India Pale Lager - Founders Brewing Company

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Founders Dissenter Imperial India Pale LagerFounders Dissenter Imperial India Pale Lager

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Ratings: 1,551
Reviews: 192
rAvg: 4.08
pDev: 10.29%
Wants: 72
Gots: 300 | FT: 18
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Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
American Double / Imperial Pilsner |  8.70% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: JohnGalt1 on 05-02-2014

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Ratings: 1,551 | Reviews: 192
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Photo of superspak
4.1/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

750 ml bottle into lager glass; no bottle dating, but was just released. Pours crystal clear pale golden color with a 1 finger dense white head with good retention, that reduces to a small cap that lingers. Nice spotty soapy lacing clings down the glass. Aromas of big tangerine, grapefruit, pineapple, lemon zest, apricot, floral, grass, pine, cracker, bread, and floral/grassy earthiness. Damn nice aromas with great complexity of bright citrus/tropical/pine hops and moderate pale malt balance; with great strength. Taste of big tangerine, grapefruit, pineapple, lemon zest, apricot, floral, grass, pine, cracker, bread, and floral/grassy earthiness. Good amount of earthy pine/grassy bitterness on the finish; with lingering notes of tangerine, grapefruit, pineapple, lemon zest, apricot, pine, cracker, bread, and floral/grassy earthiness on the finish for a while. Damn nice complexity of bright citrus/tropical/pine hops and moderate pale malt sweetness; with a nice malt/bitterness balance and zero cloying flavors after the finish. Medium carbonation and body; with a very smooth, crisp, and moderately sticky mouthfeel that is great. Alcohol is well hidden with minimal warming present after the finish. Overall this is an excellent IPL. All around great complexity and balance of citrus/tropical/pine hops and moderate pale malt sweetness; and very smooth and crisp to drink for the ABV. A very enjoyable offering.

Photo of BEERchitect
4.03/5  rDev -1.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

When the goal of IPA it to heighten hop character to the max, but to also suppress malt influence in order to let the hops stand out; why have the "India pale lagers" been so slow to mature? Well, wait no longer- that beer is here and in imperial form!

Bright gold to the eye, its appearance is the classic IPA stature but with a paler tone. Bright and floral to the nose, its perfume and grassy scent is somewhat mild, timid to release its tasty secrets. But once released, its short grain sweetness gets out of the way in a hurry in order to usher in those dominant hops.

Bold and citrusy white grapefruit, lime and under-ripe berries frame the bulk of the middle, especially after the wafer-thin malts dissolve, carrying with it a tangy and earthy taste.

Its building bitterness is unrelenting as the hops grip the throat tightly and refuses to release. Gaining bitterness sip after sip, its grassy, herbal and woodish spices tighten their grip, weaving in citrus piths, leaf and grass along the way- en route to a piquant alcohol warmth that's indicative of its high strength. Its mild astringency is unavoidable with not malt taste or texture to buffer out the hop and alcohol rougher edges.

Photo of bsp77
4.03/5  rDev -1.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Serving glass: Poured from bottle into IPA glass.

Appearance (4.5): Cloudy honey color with good sized white head and respectable lacing, especially for a lager.

Smell (4): Strong citrus (grapefruit and orange), making it smell like an old school APA/IPA. Some light toasted notes and booze.

Taste (4): Very hoppy with mostly grapefruit and orange. Malts are somewhere between a toasted IPA and a fruity Maibock. Certainly sweeter than an IPA would be, despite the bitter finish. Some lingering Maibock flavors.

Feel (4): Feels mostly like a Maibock, with moderate carbonation, a medium to full body that is smooth and mostly clean, semi-dry finish.

Overall (4): Very nice IPL, better than many, and some of these recent examples have helped this become a more viable style.

Photo of emerge077
4.25/5  rDev +4.2%

Thanks to Joe for sharing this one!

Pours a deeply saturated golden orange, with a thin froth on the surface. Spotty lace around the edges. Lasting surface coverage. 4.5

Tropical fruit aromas, dried mango and orange peel. 4

Creamy feel with a strong hop character, citric and fruity. Resinous with a building bitterness that lingers into the aftertaste. Light mango and orange notes initially. Well built and drinkable, also pretty strong so take your time. 4/4.25/4.25

Photo of metter98
4.06/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

A: The beer is crystal clear yellow in color and has a light amount of visible carbonation. It poured with a quarter finger white head that died down, leaving some lacing on the surface and a collar of large bubbles around the edge of the glass.
S: Moderate aromas of citrusy hops are present in the nose—oranges seem to stand out in particular.
T: Much like the smell, the taste has lots of flavors of orange citrus hops along with underlying notes of pilsener malts and slight hints of alcohol. There is a light amount of bitterness.
M: It feels medium-bodied and a little clean and crisp on the palate with a moderate amount of carbonation.
O: Except for the cleanness in the mouthfeel and the light amounts of crispness and bitterness, it's hard to tell this beer apart as being a lager compared to an IPA or a DIPA. This beer isn't that difficult to drink as the alcohol is rather well masked from the taste, except for some hints in the taste.

Note: 2014 vintage

Photo of SHODriver
4.25/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

A: poured into a pilsner glass to a fairly hazy yellow topped by a finger of dense white head that retains well
S: smells of citrus, pine, orange marmalade and a light honey sweetness. slightly resinous
T: taste is citrus rind, pine oil, a little orange, slight bready malt and some faint sweetness hop resin as well. swallow is a little orange marmalade, and more resinous pine and citrus
M: lighter side of medium on the palate with slightly prickly carbonation. The finish on this beer is oily hops and is overall refreshing
O: This is a great IPL. Great hop flavors and the malt struggles to balance. decent complexity and a solid mouthfeel as well. Not a lot of clarity but I won't hold that against it. If you like clean hoppy beers this is a good one to try.

Photo of Barnoloid
4.06/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Brings out some deep hop notes amidst a clean palate and crispy smooth mouthfeel. Light floral feel on the nose. Bold and layered. There is an IPA feel but this is rooted firmly in the lager camp, which sort of makes it an odd and unique hybrid. A diversion from the usual Backstage series offerings but worthy of a look nonetheless.

Photo of HannibalNectar
4/5  rDev -2%

This is no lager, but what it is, is a very enjoyable brew! Cheers!

Photo of Phocion
4/5  rDev -2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Notes scribbled on scratch paper I discovered in a jacket pocket. No date on the review but if my memory serves me correctly it was Octoberish.

750ml bottle poured into glass a clear, fairly light gold color with two fingers of retentive white foamy head. Solid sheets of clingy lacing.

Hop-forward aroma. Tons of fruits; grapefruit, lemon, tangerine, and berries. Zesty and a touch of floral notes. Lightly sweet grainy maltiness.

Flavor is slightly more balanced, but still malt-forward. Light bitterness along with floral and piney hops, plus the massive fruitiness in the nose. Somewhat of a juicy sweetness along with a generic grainy sweetness and fairly high alcohol flavors. Luckily there's a bit of astringency to balance it out. Clean.

Medium body and fairly highly carbonated. Crisp but warming (due to ABV) mouthfeel.

Overall this isn't a style I'm usually fond of, but this beer was good. Not something I'm going crazy over, but still enjoyable.

Photo of brentk56
3.93/5  rDev -3.7%

Appearance: Pours a crystal clear golden color with a very impressive cap of foam; plenty of squiggly lacing

Smell: Hop candy sweetness with sugary tropical fruit tones (pineapple, tangerine and lemon)

Taste: Candied hops dominate from the outset, with the pineapple, tangerine and lemon tones building through the middle; some alcohol burn and shortbread malt appears, after the swallow, but the finish is dominated by the hops with some grassiness also detected

Mouthfeel: Medium to full body with moderate carbonation

Overall: I have never been thrilled by Imperial Pilsners and this one is no exception; I often find them too sweet and that is the case here, as well

Photo of UCLABrewN84
3.85/5  rDev -5.6%

Thanks to GRG1313 for sharing this one at drewone's tasting.

Pours a clear golden-yellow with a foamy bone head that settles to a partial film on top of the beer. Small streaks of lace form around the glass on the drink down. Smell is of malt, grain, citrus fruit, and citrus zest aromas. Taste is much the same with citrus fruit and citrus zest flavors on the finish. There is a mild amount of hop bitterness on the palate with each sip. This beer has a lower level of carbonation with a slightly crisp and sticky mouthfeel. Overall, this is a pretty good beer that is tasty and easy to drink.

Serving type: bottle.

Photo of mothman
4.05/5  rDev -0.7%

White head. No lace. Color is a clear golden orange. It looks oily.

Flavor profile: Big orange and clementine flavor. Tropical. Mangoes. peaches, and grapefruit. Bready malts. Kind of has a steam ale malt profile to it. A bit biscuity. Floral notes. Piney and hop resiny.

Mouthfeel: Bitter and sticky. Medium bodied. Good carbonation. Ends dry with some hops in the aftertaste.

Overall, a really solid beer. Very enjoyable. You can definitely tell this is a lager, but it is still really hoppy like an IIPA. Good stuff.

Photo of joe1510
4.15/5  rDev +1.7%

750ml
$10.49
Herman's Package Store - Ottawa, IL

Dissenter, an Imperial IPL with a tarnished copper hue. When backlit gold becomes dominant. Clusters of bubbles rise from a different surface of the glass each time, rushing to the surface. The foam is a white that has yellowed, slightly off, a little dirty. It initially rises to a finger in height but quickly falls to a skimming and chunky ring. The ring leaves patchy but sticky lacing.

The nose is clean and robust. Hops dominate with a big fruity, candy quality. Orange oils, candied peel, and orange liqueur all play a role. There are some minor tropical notes on the periphery with mango and papaya playing their roles, a little apricot as well. All these great hop aromas have a dusting of florals. The malt profile is semi-sweet, soft white bread. Peppery alcohol adds some depth.

Citrus and tropical fruits lead the way yet again. Orange oils, candied peel, grapefruit pith, mango, zesty lime, and papaya are all present before apricot wraps it up. The hop profile brings a ton of depth. The lime becomes vibrant as it warms, while undercurrents of florals and even a soft herbalness run through occasionally. What little malt is noticeable tends to lean toward white bread while adding a touch of sweetness for some semblance of balance.

I've had "Imperial IPL"s n the past, there always seems to either be too much sweetness or a lack of cleanliness. Dissenter has neither. The body is moderate, impressive at an 8.7% monster. The finish dries quickly to the likes of the Sahara. Bitterness is up there and I like it. Drinkability is, to dust off an old chestnut, dangerous.

Dissenter is crisp, clean, packed with hops and bone dry. It's everything most Imperial IPLs try to be and fail. Founder's nailed this guy and while this is still a bit of an odd style to me at times this version works well. As usual, go buy this beer that Founder's brewed, you won't be disappointed.

Photo of oberon
4.25/5  rDev +4.2%

This is the best IPL I have had to date,the hops are dripping in the nose and are spot on the palate,just a great beer.

Photo of barhoc11
4.25/5  rDev +4.2%

I thought drinking a fresh bottle of this was very good. Nice fruity hops with a crisp lager finish

Photo of Franziskaner
3.84/5  rDev -5.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Rich golden colored with good clarity. A fingernail of off white heads covers the top. Brussels lacing. Lucious aroma of grapefruit emerges from the glass. The taste is very much as advertised by the nose. Grapefruit like flavor with a very smooth finish. The malt is dulled due tot lagering. Very easy drinking hop forward beer,but the back of the palate is pretty tame.

Photo of pat61
4.5/5  rDev +10.3%

Big hoppy nose with pine, herbs and citrus.
Pours brilliant straw gold under a 1" finely bubbled persistent bone white head. Very lacy.
Big hops dominate a rich malt backbone but in a very drinkable and pleasant way with citrus and grapefruit rind bitterness in the lead giving way to a light herbal flavor in the finish. A hint of sour in the finish.
Medium full body and medium high carbonation. The carbonation is soft and fine giving the beer a delightful creamy texture.

Photo of MattyG85
4.4/5  rDev +7.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Poured from a 750 ml bottle into a big Founders CBS glass.

Appearance: Pours a bright golden orange with a moderate amount of bubbles. Solid two fingers of white head which slowly fade into a thin creamy layer. Leaves a good amount of lacing.

Smell: A juicy and earthy hop forward aroma with big hints of citrus fruit. Upfront citrus hops with hints of grapefruit, orange peel, mango, lemon zest, pineapple, tangerine, apricot, and melon. Earthy and floral hops with hints of fresh cut grass and pine. Solid malt background with hints of bready biscuit, caramel, lager yeast, and cracker. A pretty good hop forward aroma.

Taste: Like it smells, a juicy, earthy, and piney hop driven taste with big notes of citrus fruit and dank pine. Citrus hops with upfront notes of grapefruit, mango, orange peel, lemon, apricot, pineapple, tangerine, and melon. Earthy and dank hop presence with notes of grass and pine resin. Solid lager malt backing with notes of caramel, biscuit, cracker, and lager yeast. Also some mild sweet honey like notes. A very good taste.

Mouthfeel: Fairly full bodied with a moderate amount of carbonation. Juicy, oily, and pretty drying on the finish. Alcohol heat is mild.

Overall: A very solid take on a hopped up lager. Big citrus and pine notes with a solid malt backing. A lot like Double Trouble with a lager background.

Photo of WVbeergeek
4.5/5  rDev +10.3%

Completely filtered golden hue with a bright white head, even layered head big bruiser of a lager if you ask me…I can smell the hops from here.

Aroma, blessed to have a second bottle of this stuff so hoppy! Mango, grapefruit pith, citrus flesh, tropical fruit notes including the distinctive Citra hopped passion fruit notes, man does this beer smell delicious.

Flavor tropical fruit floods the palate with each sip, a bit of pineapple flesh, rough citrus rind, and passion fruit with mango juiciness. My goodness there’s never been a pale lager out there to perform on this level. That tropical fruit note has never been more intense followed by a bit of a booze pale malt base, level of sweetness is appropriate for the style…throw this in an IPA glass or a snifter…I’m personally drinking this sample out of a one liter tankard…Fuck yeah!

Mouthfeel coats the palate with hop oils medium bodied sturdy carbonation fills the nares with CO2 with each sip, but resides on the palate easily…a magnificent Backstage Release from Founders go out and get it while it’s here.

Overall, I’ve been blessed to drink this while it’s around a couple generous folks out there including some strangers who saw me sitting in a store without the beer. She decided based on the other beers I was drinking that I deserved to have the last bottle of this beer to go! However I cracked it with a new friend and fellow Italiano that day @ Giant Eagle Market District Robinson’s tasting bar!

Photo of chinchill
3.87/5  rDev -5.1%

Wonderful hoppy aroma: Fruity and herbal.
Flavor îs milder than the aroma suggests, at least at first, with a solid light malt base. The finish and aftertaste had the hop power of an IPA.

Photo of Tilly
4.25/5  rDev +4.2%

Almost clear. Lacy head, short Light amber. Citrus, grass aroma. Strong tangerine. Chewy, citrus, lavender, earthy. Excellent 4.25!

Photo of Auraan
4.25/5  rDev +4.2%

Poured a lovely clear golden body with a thin cap of white foam. It looks quite typical for a lager, but very inviting. Scents of pine resin, vegetal, oniony hops, grapefruit peel notes of tropical fruit, and orange flesh and peel. Overall impression of aroma is of a nicely hop forward beer, that is most like an IPA, despite this being an imperial lager. Very nice and appealing. Flavor begins moderately bitter with notes of pine resin, oniony, earthy, vegetal hops and light grapefruit. In the middle, the same flavors continue, but grapefruit becomes more prominent, as do the earthy, vegetal hops. Finish is earthy, vegetal hops, grapefruit peel, pine resin, and a hint of faint alcohol. Aftertaste is pine resin, floral, bitter hops, light sweet Pilsner malt and grapefruit peel. Overall impression of flavor is of a wonderfully hoppy lager that is clean and thus showcases the hops. Very nice. Mouthfeel is medium bodied with moderate carbonation and a somewhat resinous, drying mouthfeel. Overall impression of mouthfeel is of a wonderful hoppy beer that is easy to drink and pleasant. Overall is an excellent beer that is hoppy in aroma and flavor, with a nice mouthfeel that aids the overall impression. Very nice and highly recommended.

Photo of PBRmeasap1980
3.75/5  rDev -8.1%

Lagers are not my favorite, but this was ok. Approached a double IPA, but had a bit of a lager graininess. Overall it's drinkable, but I much prefer iipa over iipa.

Photo of secondtooth
3.78/5  rDev -7.4%
look: 3.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Appearance: Hazy golden. Slight head. Virtually no lace.

Aroma: Intense hoppy citrus and floral. Pungent and strong on the hops tip. I expect big things!

Taste is potent. Intense bittering citrus hops. Booze is hidden well in this wallop of a lager. Would easily double as a high-octane IPA. Hop-hounds flock to this one, others steer clear.

Photo of Roguer
3.94/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Pours a nice, 2 finger snow-white head from a reasoned pour. Brew is a clear (nearly transparent) golden lager. Retention is quite good, and lacing is thick and lacy.

Aroma is very subdued, featuring a smooth, sweet, earthy malt profile, and pine, floral, and grapefruit hop aromas. Very classic hop profile.

Much stronger flavor than aroma, but featuring all the above. Impressively smooth and balanced throughout, with a sweet malty/earthy/dank kick at the end. More grapefruit (pulp and peel) than resin.

Medium-light body, extremely drinkable, and goes down way too easy. A little syrupy, but very lively. Long bitter finish.

Definitely a solid, smooth, hoppy lager. Very enjoyable.

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Founders Dissenter Imperial India Pale Lager from Founders Brewing Company
91 out of 100 based on 1,551 ratings.