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Founders Bad Habit Belgian Quad - Founders Brewing Company

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Founders Bad Habit Belgian QuadFounders Bad Habit Belgian Quad

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102 Reviews
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Reviews: 102
Hads: 114
Avg: 3.64
pDev: 15.11%
Wants: 55
Gots: 2 | FT: 1
Brewed by:
Founders Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Quadrupel (Quad) |  9.80% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: CRJMellor on 02-22-2004

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Reviews: 102 | Hads: 114
Photo of Sammy
3.9/5  rDev +7.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Thanks jpm30. Good aroma of fresh yeast and fruit. A great tasting beer, though quad is an amazing style. Good soapy bubble white head on golden body. Tasty yeasty drinkable Belgian, unique taste, with spicy secondary. Good significant carbonation. Medium bannana mouthfeel. Funky. Satisfying.

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Photo of brentk56
3.34/5  rDev -8.2%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Appearance: Pours an apricot nectar color with burnt orange highlights; the modest amount of foam quickly declines to a ringlet

Smell: Fig, bubblegum and a dollop of toffee

Taste: Figgy, up front, but a souring medicinal element kicks in rather quickly; by mid-palate, however, a caramel sweet tone starts to subsume the other flavors, while adding a fusel alcohol character to the fray; after the swallow, the alcohol and fruit flavors buttress the finish

Mouthfeel: Medium to full body with low carbonation

Drinkability: Age has not been particularly kind to this beer; though the complexity is intriguing, it is all over the map and the sum is not equal to the parts

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Photo of Phyl21ca
3.97/5  rDev +9.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle: Poured a cloudy amber color ale with a small foamy head with minimal retention and some lacing. Aroma of sweet Belgian style malt with some nice notes of toffee. Taste is a nice enough mix between some sweet malt with some toffee and dry fruits characteristics. Body is quite full with some medium carbonation and no alcohol was discernable. Well done overall but lacking some complexities to be on par with the best of the style and maybe a tad too sweet.

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Photo of BuckeyeNation
3.05/5  rDev -16.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

"Bad habits are like a comfortable bed: easy to get into, but hard to get out of."


Harvest orange with butter rum colored trim. Unfortunately, the beige crown is small, soft, less than sticky, fizzy and isn't exactly coating the glass with lace. It's difficult to imagine a Belgian-style ale that looks less Belgian. The high ABV may be a foam killer, but I've seen plenty of high-ABV ales that were more attractive than this.

The aroma sketches the faint outlines of the style when bold brushstrokes are called for. Each sniff delivers cherries and berries macerated in Stolichnaya. If the beer is this boozy now, it must have been something else back in the fall of '06. Will it be more competently buried on the palate?

Founders is one of my favorite American craft breweries. I had to get that in because Bad Habit is not a good quadrupel. In fact, it's a car crash of a big ale that, nevertheless, isn't a *total* loss. Where the hell do I start?

A considerable cherry cough syrup sweetness is cut off at the knees by a rubbing alcohol quality that undermines the whole operation. The remainder of the flavor profile includes butter toffee, black cherry, red raspberry and pink bubblegum. Can BHBQ possibly be brewed with nothing other than malt, hops, yeast and water?

It feels stupid to grant an average taste score since Bad Habit is anything but average in the 'run of the mill' sense. With respect to quality, however, the above score is entirely appropriate. I think I'm starting to hallucinate. Are we sure this stuff isn't 14.8%?

The mouthfeel isn't as big or as sticky as anticipated. It starts out that way, then dissolves into lightly viscous and modestly mouthcoating. A few too many fine bubbles don't help the cause.

Founders is not in the habit of brewing less than delicious beer. However, they missed the mark widely with Bad Habit Belgian Quad. They should either go back to the drawing board or should forget this colorful mess entirely and concentrate on brewing the beers that we all know and love. Breakfast Stout, Kentucky Breakfast Stout, Imperial Stout, Red's Rye, Black Rye, Centennial IPA, Devil Dancer... and on and on and on.

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Photo of mikesgroove
4.5/5  rDev +23.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

murky orange brown with a large three finger high head of thick gooey and sticky lace that really clung around for a good long while before finlly settling down

The aroma was very bourbonesque with a weird almost off color woodiness to it that was difficult to place. As it warmed some other almost fuity like aromas started to come out with hints of figs, and plums really dominating the profile as it came up to room temperature. Lots of dark fruity flavors were the favorites here and really served to push the envelope a little bit in try to bring out some of the other flavors. There was a nice and very deep underlying earthy flavor that really seemed to ry to bring balance to the whole thing, however this was comletely thrown out one the alcohol flavors decided to get involved and really flex their muscles, and flex they did completly overpwoering the rest of it until it warmed enough to allow the subtle hints of fruity yeast to trounce back to the surface.

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Photo of ChainGangGuy
2.4/5  rDev -34.1%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

Appearance: Pours a light, hazy copper body with no real head or lacing to speak of.

Smell: Stinging aroma of concord grapes and rubbing alcohol. Quite similar to a cheap, well brandy.

Taste: Harsh and astringent, to say the least. Hints of dry, stale bubblegum mixed sweetened fortified wine paint a picture of a beer gone horribly awry. However, any amiss flavors are immediately drowned out by the blisteringly hot alcohol burn. In a word: Yeesh!

Mouthfeel: Thin-bodied, with an oily, sticky mouthfeel.

Drinkability: All of the wonderous qualities that make for a truly delicious quadruple were totally abandoned for this brew. Definitely the most un-quad "quad" I have ever tasted, and a real stomach churner, too.

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Photo of feloniousmonk
3.42/5  rDev -6%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Hazy, amber-toned hue, slim whitish head atop....

Nose is sweetish, and citric, but lightly played..candyish, really, like candy corn...not good. A bit plastic.

Taste: Big, fat orange flavor, but more like circus peanuts...plastic, again...dark and bright fruits shine in this, but they don't feel right, they feel artificial. It's a fake Belgian, that we know, but it doesn't have to feel fake.
Very odd, and off, and out of sorts, this one. Doesn't resemble quads, as I know them...maybe a sugary tripel? 9.8%, and feeling it, a bit...but still lacking finesse and ...well, not a bad beer, but more heat than true character, here, more bigness than real flavor. Rather dismissable, sorry to say.

Full-bodied, with a long, hot, citric finish...but not a recommended Quad, if you like to limit your experiences to the very best, This ain't one of them, but me, I try 'em all!

thanks to trbeer!

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Photo of BARFLYB
3.38/5  rDev -7.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

12oz bottle poured into a regular snifter, recieved as an extra. Not sure when this was brewed.

A- Bad Habit pours a dirty tan color out of the bottle while settling to a dark brown/ mahogany color once in the glass. Some debris can be seen also. Up to light a nice deep orange bronze color. Not much head and no lacing.

S- Smell consists of a bunch of dried fruit with apples and a off caramel malt sense. A bunch of alcohol as well. Toffee with syrup. A bit of a candi essense. Some raisin with warming and some plum.

T- Starting off I got a nice apple taste with caramel from the malt following and of course some alcohol, that can't be denied. The toffee came with warming along with even more sweetness with raisins which did not mesh well.

M- This quad was a bit lively once first opened but quickly lost it's feel and became quite flat. I prefer this in very small sips as anything more and your in for sweet alcohol. A step above medium bodied.

D- The flavors don't collide well leaving me scratching my head. I'm glad I tried it but won't miss it. Hopefully founders releases a revamped version later in time, as this bottle may be past it's prime(Not sure the year on this).

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Photo of weeare138
3.57/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to egajdzis for breaking this open...
Appears a hazy, orange toned brown with a small, off white head that fades into a small cap. Spotty lacing is left around the glass. Smell is yeasty, boozy, with notes of peach, nectarines, apricots, caramel, and brown sugar.
Taste echoes the aromas with a standout raisin flavor.
Mouthfeel is medium bodied, fruity, yeasty, boozy, sweet up front with a semi-dry finish.

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Photo of Wasatch
4/5  rDev +9.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to NucularGeorge for this brew.

Poured into a chalice a cloudy light amber color, nice carbonation, nice little fizzy off-white head, basically no lacing at all. The nose is malty, yeasty, bready, and grapes. The taste is slightly sweet, tangy, malty, yeasty, grapey. The ABV is pretty pronounced though, slighty dry finish. Medium body. Drinkable, this is a nice quadrupel, recommended.

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Photo of JohnGalt1
2.68/5  rDev -26.4%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

12oz picked up in trades (sorry I don't remember everyone who has sent me one of these, I promise I am keeping better trading notes now.) Poured into my red wine glass and am still listening to Sasha's Involver mix.

Hazy muddy orange pour... waaaay to big of a head. Lacing is good.. but nothing even remotely great.

Bazooka Joe bubblegum, banana and harsh Belgian yeast spicyness dominate the nose.... sugar syrup with lively fruits.. plums... plums... a little bit nutmeg. Alcohol is hot... If it was warm enough, I could set it on fire.

Flavor is candy sweet... Hefeweizen banana and cloves... too much, way too much fruitiness... I normally need a little sweetness to tie together the Quad flavor nuances, but this is nearly off the charts. Mouthfeel is heavy/thick and cloying... I've been sitting on my last bottle of Bad Habit for close to a year now (thinking that time would do it well) ... My notebook reviews show the same disdain... although, this review is not nearly as bad as when I first had it back in January. I wrote, "Bad Habit needs a recipe reformulation and this bottle needs a LOT longer bottle time". That being said, I would really like to score another 4-6 of these and not touch them for 3-4 years.

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Photo of rhoadsrage
3.58/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

(Served in a chalice)

A- This beer has a glowing hazy deep ambler body when held to the light but looks pretty dark on the table. There are lots of tiny bubbles rolling up the sides of the glass. The creamy meniscus of light tan head forms sheets of foam over the glass after each sip only to slide back down into the beer.

S- The smell of circus peanuts is strong even during the pour. With a closer sniff, notes of banana are the strong and increase when it gets warmer. There is a nice soft sweet caramel note in the background.

T- The big banana and circus peanut note gives way to a strong alcohol flavor in the finish. Notes of sweet caramel and white sugar are followed by notes of banana taffy when it warms a bit.

M- This beer has a medium-full mouthfeel with an alcohol head that really dries out the finish with the tight little fizz.

D- This beer has a sweet sugary taste which is only balanced by a big alcohol heat. There is not much depth of malt flavors. I think age would help the alcohol settle down but I don't think there are enough malt flavors to come through after a bit of age.

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Photo of akorsak
3.62/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A 12 oz stubby bottle from a Dark Lord day trade with Sephiroth.

A: The ale is a hazy orange-brown mixture, closer to orange at the thinner points on the glass (and where more light sneaks through). The head was small, less than a finger, and sat atop the beer as a small white pool.

S: Aromatically, the nose is quite fruity. Sweet (non-maraschino) cherries, green grapes and hints of cinnamin create a swirling nose that promises a lot flavor-wise.

T: The initial flavors from a sip are rather thin. So thin that I questioned the ale for a brief second. As that first dull flavor passes, the ale opens up to a huge alefruit, grain and alcohol presence. The dry green grapes, dark raisins and sweet cherries create a strong fruity grain presence that could warm the coldest night. Mixed in with the grainy alefruit is a strong, hot alcohol flavor that announces the beer's strength in bold terms. The finish channels some fruit alongside the alcohol.

M: The ale has a strong malty body that projects a dry but sweet alefruit body.

D: This beer has a huge alcohol presence that limits the drinkaiblity. Stick with one and you'll sleep soundly.

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Photo of ppoitras
2.23/5  rDev -38.7%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

12oz bottle purchased as a single from Julio's, Marlboro, MA.

Poured into a heavy glass chalice, formed a minimal 1/8" layer of bubbles over the cloudy orangey amber brew. Head is down to a spotty layer of swirly teeny bubbles almost immediately, with little to no lacing. Aroma is syrupy fermented apples. Taste starts with a quick flash of malty sweetness, quickly overtaken by a strong licorice flavor in the middle, and closes with a powerful shot of alcohol. Mouthfeel is tough to handle, and drinkability is cut short by the burn. Not one I'd go searching out again anytime soon.

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Photo of Derek
3.94/5  rDev +8.2%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I sampled this at the Michigan Brewers Guild Summer Fest.

A: Brownish-amber, off-white head, no retention or lace.

S: Prune, bread, slight spice/phenolic aroma, pleasant fruityness (pineapple & melon).

T: Prune; bread; spicey, but not too phenolic or fusil; a little pineapple & melon; fig; alcohol becomes more assertive as it warms.

M: Light to moderate carbonation, moderate to full body, slight hint of acidity.

D: Good.

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Photo of DrJay
3.97/5  rDev +9.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

nlmartin hooked me up with this one via BC2. Thanks Nate!
Fairly clear and deep reddish orange with a thin skim of foam that formed a solid collar. Some sticky, spotty lace. Significant alcohol in the aroma, but it was fairly mellow with no fusels. Notes of fruity plum, floral hops, toasty and doughy malt filled things out. Very fruity flavour with some sweet malt, plums, strawberry, and a peppery alcohol finish. Some higher alcohols were present. Medium to full bodied with gentle carbonation, warmth and a bit of stickiness. Drinkability was pretty good. I thought the higher alcohols worked for this one, especially since they didn't seem overly hot or solvent-like.

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Photo of scruffwhor
4.06/5  rDev +11.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The color is an awesome candy coated cognac and brandy with its luscious amber hues. But alas, very little head after the pour and none what so ever about two minutes after. Also lacking in the bubble or lacing department as well. The kick ass color saves this beers appearance. The aroma is heavy on candied bananas, rose petals, burny malts, and some corn syrup. Yes, it does have a smell. Not like most other Quads I've had before, but I like it's unique nature. Very malty sweet, not too many dark flavors, more like light, alcoholic flavors to be precise. Some floral, even hoppy note intgrated with amaretto and medium toasted malt flavors. The tongue hasa mild velvety silk of alcohol. Feels like a lighter scotch might. Very nice and different. Would like to buy again and share with some open minded friends.

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Photo of TurdFurgison
4.57/5  rDev +25.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

La Cave Du Vin in Cleveland had this on tap this week. I never heard of it before I tried it, and now I hope they start distributing it in bottles so I can have more.

Dark orange color with wispy sticky head, candy sweet aroma and awesome Belgian-yeasty flavor. They told me it was 12% alcohol, but it was hard to taste it. Went down really easy.

Get it if you can find it.

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Photo of dirtylou
3.68/5  rDev +1.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12oz single, $2.49, Riley's...rewatching the 2005 ND-Stanford game

appearance: pours into a la chouffe tulip...very lovely dark garnet body, deep and full bodied appearance, light beige head with not much retention

smell: big banana nut bread aroma that kind of struck me by surprise, sweet sugar aroma, original flavoured bubble yum, caramel malt, touch of hops noticeable after a while

taste: this is a big beer...brown banana, a bit nutty, strong boozy nature lingers throughout, sweet boozy fruit - apple, plum, banana...caramel malt backbone, holiday spice attributes that could make this a nice december release...interesting but out of control quadruple that stretches the style

mouthfeel: alcohol a bit hot, medium-full body

drinkability: its big, but i'll manage it

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Photo of RoyalT
4.12/5  rDev +13.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance - This was a perfect brilliant brown in color with a cloudy, off-white head.

Smell - The big alcohol caught my olfactory bulb before I even brought the glass up to my nose. There's a super-strong banana aroma here that reminds me of those banana-strawberry smoothie drinks only without all of the artificial flavoring.

Taste - Yet more alcohol is found at the taste. It is cutting but does little to hide the massive fruit flavors. Again this is mostly banana but I'm also getting a light nutty character like a nut-based liqueur. The malts are all but worn away.

Mouthfeel - This is just shy of medium-bodied and hot hot hot with booze.

Drinkability - It's very drinkable right now but skyhand said it should probably go in the cellar for six months or so to wear away some of the booze and she's probably right. It's not as structured as most other Quads that I've had but the big fruits are juicy and very tasty.

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Photo of jaxon53
4.05/5  rDev +11.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Received this beer from brandoman63, in the brews-n-tunes summer '07 tour.Served at just about cellar temperature in a snifter, from a stubby twelve ounce brown bottle.Poured a deep brownish orange with some ruby highlights. Beer showed up somewhat murky in the glass. About two good fingers of soapy, off-white head rose from the glass. Head had decent retention and left some sticky lace on the glass. Smelled of raisin, plum, cherries, alcohol, and some sweet sugary sweet notes. Hopefully it tastes as good as it smells. Flavors were very fruity. Again, raisin, plum, rum, yeast, candy sugar with a somewhat grainy taste. Also could taste cherries from a can of fruit cocktail. Had a nice full, complex mouthfeel. Left a little bit of an alcohol burn on the back of the tongue. Plenty of carbonation. Very drinkable and enjoyable!

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Photo of cokes
2.73/5  rDev -25%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 3

It pours to barely translucent honeyed auburn color topped with a quick and short rise of sand.
Fried banana and stewed apple nose, all slathered with drywall, and drowned in some sort of shitty, vinegary, cooking wine.
It begins all in fruit and stays there for, basically, the entire durations. But this is fruity in the way things like Skittles are fruity...that is, sweet and generally reminiscent of some type of fruit you've had at some point in your existence, and it is absolutely impossible to tell exactly what the fuck that little pink one is supposed to be. This is that little pink one.
Let's call it a pomegrantangeloplantainkiwiblackcherry fruit. Good enough, and it sounds marketable. It's more or less concentrated extract here, because it is loud and syrupy sweet, in the realm of "18% Juice / 82% High Fructose corn syrup fruit "cocktails".
All nonsensical digressions aside, it starts and stays with the heavy sweet fruitiness, edged with a rindlike tartness. It's muddled partially with pervasive gauze-pad and dried tea pastiness, which is essentially the Belgian yeast strain and hops rolled into one semi-obnoxious counterflavor. Still, this is more Hawaiian Fruit Punch than St Bernardus. Even the alcohol, which is strong on the swallow, is painted over with the syrupiness. And that's fucking saying something.
The only beer it even sort of brings to mind is North Coast's Old Stock Ale, and that one at least had some degree of balance on it's side. This is more a horrible Barleywine, unbalanced and oversweet, than some sort of interpretation of a Belgian style. Actually, it tastes more like a poorly made daquiri, except it's not frozen.
Heavy, clingy and cloying. The mouthfeel is a mess.
Ultimately, it's not terrible as the sugary fruit hues, artificial as they are at times, have some small degree of likeability, just as Kool Aid and Skittles do. But on the whole (and more importantly, as a BEER), it's well out of whack.

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Photo of alexgash
3.55/5  rDev -2.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Cool label. Gold auburn body is mostly clear, but a little yeast slipped by and in. Small, ringy off-cream head. Bubblegum (Bazooka) nose with fruit cocktail and spicy booze. Huge estery fruit and bubblegum up front. Light toffee backing, but more sweet fruit punch. Yeasty spice cake and scorched sugar bitterness. Warming, slightly bitter fruit finish. An interesting, fruity “quad.” Moderate body with a syrupy feel. A nice sipper, but a little too bubblegum-centered.

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Photo of merlin48
3.54/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Another interesting find from the wonderful Keg Liquor Store in Clarksville, Indiana. I was prepared to be disappointed by this attempt at a Belgian Quad, but the Founders folks have actually acquitted themselves quite well here. Pours into a goblet a hazy copper color with little to no head and an absence of lacing. Looks like Troeg's Mad Elf.

Aroma is quite profound. Cherries and Bananas, clove and pepper, dark fruits, cinnamon, and some fusel alcohol. Beastly aroma!

Mouthfeel is a bit brash and fusel, but not that unpleasant. Medium bodied.

Taste mirrors the aroma very well. Cherries and bananas, soaked in rum and served with raisins and figs. Drenched with Jamaican dark rum. Flavors are quite bold.There is fusel alcohol here that reminds me of some unpleasant grain alcohol experiments of my younger days. Some anise is also noticed. Middle and finish reveal a solid effort to replicate Belgian yeasts, sugars, and hops complexities.

An excellent American Quadrupel that still doesn't rival the better Belgians.

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Photo of brewdlyhooked13
3.7/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3

Appearance - pours a reddish copper with a thin head of white. Moments later, the cover is bare save for an uneven ring. Somehow manages to place a few bits of lacing here and there. Turns pretty cloudy/chunky with the last few ounces added.

Aroma - sweet with a base, indistinct fruitiness. Hints of yeast at times and a full vapory alcohol effect on a deep inhale. Smells pleasant enough if somewhat plain.

Taste - before the grains can make any impact, a rush of sweetness and alcohol move in and set up. A bubble gum or maybe Pez candy flavor, a big alcohol effect which ducks any harshness. The swallow begins a trail of warmth from the back of the throat all the way down to the stomach, like the tail of a comet. I'm no expert on the style, but as far as I know this tastes pretty good and would probably also do well if aged a while. The aftertaste is more like an after-thought, mostly just shadows of the candy flavor and the abv.

Mouthfeel - an element of heaviness, syrupiness that helps without overdoing. Bubbles are lively, well done.

Drinkability - I'm glad I bought these at the Founder's Brewing Company event sponsored by the Dilly Deli, but this isn't something I'd keep around.

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Founders Bad Habit Belgian Quad from Founders Brewing Company
83 out of 100 based on 102 ratings.