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Founders Bad Habit Belgian Quad - Founders Brewing Company

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115 Ratings
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Ratings: 115
Reviews: 102
rAvg: 3.6
pDev: 15.56%
Wants: 57
Gots: 2 | FT: 1
Brewed by:
Founders Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Quadrupel (Quad) |  9.80% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: CRJMellor on 02-22-2004)
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Photo of Phyl21ca
3.98/5  rDev +10.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle: Poured a cloudy amber color ale with a small foamy head with minimal retention and some lacing. Aroma of sweet Belgian style malt with some nice notes of toffee. Taste is a nice enough mix between some sweet malt with some toffee and dry fruits characteristics. Body is quite full with some medium carbonation and no alcohol was discernable. Well done overall but lacking some complexities to be on par with the best of the style and maybe a tad too sweet.

Photo of weeare138
3.55/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to egajdzis for breaking this open...
Appears a hazy, orange toned brown with a small, off white head that fades into a small cap. Spotty lacing is left around the glass. Smell is yeasty, boozy, with notes of peach, nectarines, apricots, caramel, and brown sugar.
Taste echoes the aromas with a standout raisin flavor.
Mouthfeel is medium bodied, fruity, yeasty, boozy, sweet up front with a semi-dry finish.

Photo of MrBen
4.38/5  rDev +21.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Belgian brews can sometimes be real sugar bombs, but I noted that Founders kept the sugar from leaping over the top of the brew. Bad Habit poured a lovely, rust-like color with a fair head. Scent opened up quickly into sweet and mildly spicy and with a bit of alcohol.

Flavor was candy-like and fruity, but the touch of spice I smelled at the pour carried into the flavor profile, somewhat balancing everything out. I also noted a zing from the hops in the background and in the very long finish.

This limited-edition beer is certainly worth a try.

Photo of brewcrew76
3.55/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A - Hazy orange copper with little head and a ring of lace.

S - Fruity, very sweet and boozy, candy raisins, bubblegum and overripe apples.

T - Bubbleyum bubblegum (sugary), boozy, candy raisins, fruity.

M - Medium but slightly syrupy. Sweet and almost cloying.

D - This one is over 1 yr old and still a boozy sweet bomb. Good but on the sweet side.

Photo of younger35
3.03/5  rDev -15.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Review #50

Thanks to JohnGalt1 for this brew. Drank from a nonic pint glass since I didn't feel like dirtying my snifter (thing is hard to clean!).

Appearance- Pours a murky reddish brown with heavy carbonation. Lots of yeast swirling around as they are bounced back-and-forth by the carbonation. Forms a very small off-white head that maintains a decent collar for the duration of the beer. Semi spotty lacing slowly traces down the glass while you drink and eventually dissipates to nothing.
Smell- Lots of sweet dark fruits such as cherry, plumb and grapes. Very musty from the yeast and semi bready from the malt. Light alcohol vapors.
Taste- Very sweet upfront. Almost too sweet. Has a malt liquor like quality to me. The alcohol is very prominent. Like the nose, there is still a big fruit punch from this with a almost orangeish like quality to it. There is a cherry like dirtiness to this brew that isn't as horrible as it sounds.
Mouthfeel- Heavy champaign like carbonation with a heavy, malty feel. Lot's of alcohol warming and semi dry finish.
Drinkability- Although this isn't the worst attempt at a Belgium I've had, it wasn't exactly made by a monk. It has some flaws but is not undrinkable by any means. If you're looking to try something different and new in an old style, maybe give this a shot. If you want a terrific quad, find something made by a monk.

Photo of Beertracker
3.83/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Founders Bad Habit Belgian Quadruple is best served at cool cellar (40-45°F) temperatures from a tulip or pear shaped stemmed glass or chalice. This bold, flavorful Belgian-style Quadrupel pours up rather meager with a small, barely lacy whitish head that's barely sustanable over a hazy, deep bronzish-tawny brown body. The clarity suffers initially from chill-haze, but becomes very bright as it warms in hand. The enticing aroma is filled with a large intermingling of spicy (cracked pepper, grated lemon-rind/coriander, cinnamon-nutmeg & vanilla) plus fruity (banana schnapps, black currant, cordial cherry-chocolate) notes. There's also plenty of alcoholic warmth and a hint of Slovenian hops underlying the rich, almost cloying-honeyish malt notes.The satisfying flavor starts off very rich & chewy with a sweet candied Melanoidin maltiness that carries all the way to the finish with just the faintest touches of spicy, hop influenced bitterness that eventually overtakes the big time, in your face maltiness that packs a surreptitious alcoholic warmth. Founders Quad is a serious malt monster that could easily create a Bad Habit for any malt lover!

CHEERS! Beertracker

Photo of cokes
2.7/5  rDev -25%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 3

It pours to barely translucent honeyed auburn color topped with a quick and short rise of sand.
Fried banana and stewed apple nose, all slathered with drywall, and drowned in some sort of shitty, vinegary, cooking wine.
It begins all in fruit and stays there for, basically, the entire durations. But this is fruity in the way things like Skittles are fruity...that is, sweet and generally reminiscent of some type of fruit you've had at some point in your existence, and it is absolutely impossible to tell exactly what the fuck that little pink one is supposed to be. This is that little pink one.
Let's call it a pomegrantangeloplantainkiwiblackcherry fruit. Good enough, and it sounds marketable. It's more or less concentrated extract here, because it is loud and syrupy sweet, in the realm of "18% Juice / 82% High Fructose corn syrup fruit "cocktails".
All nonsensical digressions aside, it starts and stays with the heavy sweet fruitiness, edged with a rindlike tartness. It's muddled partially with pervasive gauze-pad and dried tea pastiness, which is essentially the Belgian yeast strain and hops rolled into one semi-obnoxious counterflavor. Still, this is more Hawaiian Fruit Punch than St Bernardus. Even the alcohol, which is strong on the swallow, is painted over with the syrupiness. And that's fucking saying something.
The only beer it even sort of brings to mind is North Coast's Old Stock Ale, and that one at least had some degree of balance on it's side. This is more a horrible Barleywine, unbalanced and oversweet, than some sort of interpretation of a Belgian style. Actually, it tastes more like a poorly made daquiri, except it's not frozen.
Heavy, clingy and cloying. The mouthfeel is a mess.
Ultimately, it's not terrible as the sugary fruit hues, artificial as they are at times, have some small degree of likeability, just as Kool Aid and Skittles do. But on the whole (and more importantly, as a BEER), it's well out of whack.

Photo of BlindPig
1.93/5  rDev -46.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 1

A- Thin tan head that fades fast. Cloudy red/brown body.
S- Sweet toffee malts, light fruits, alcohol, some grapes, and a few things I just can't put my finger on.
T- Really sweet tasting toffee. Alcohol comes in strong with some light spices, fruits, grapes, and just this strong bad flavor I can't seem to narrow down. Alcohol warms up back of throat.
M- Medium body with low/medium carbonation.
D- This is just a bad beer. Bad flavors and just a bad blend of flavors.

Photo of akorsak
3.6/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A 12 oz stubby bottle from a Dark Lord day trade with Sephiroth.

A: The ale is a hazy orange-brown mixture, closer to orange at the thinner points on the glass (and where more light sneaks through). The head was small, less than a finger, and sat atop the beer as a small white pool.

S: Aromatically, the nose is quite fruity. Sweet (non-maraschino) cherries, green grapes and hints of cinnamin create a swirling nose that promises a lot flavor-wise.

T: The initial flavors from a sip are rather thin. So thin that I questioned the ale for a brief second. As that first dull flavor passes, the ale opens up to a huge alefruit, grain and alcohol presence. The dry green grapes, dark raisins and sweet cherries create a strong fruity grain presence that could warm the coldest night. Mixed in with the grainy alefruit is a strong, hot alcohol flavor that announces the beer's strength in bold terms. The finish channels some fruit alongside the alcohol.

M: The ale has a strong malty body that projects a dry but sweet alefruit body.

D: This beer has a huge alcohol presence that limits the drinkaiblity. Stick with one and you'll sleep soundly.

Photo of jaxon53
4.05/5  rDev +12.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Received this beer from brandoman63, in the brews-n-tunes summer '07 tour.Served at just about cellar temperature in a snifter, from a stubby twelve ounce brown bottle.Poured a deep brownish orange with some ruby highlights. Beer showed up somewhat murky in the glass. About two good fingers of soapy, off-white head rose from the glass. Head had decent retention and left some sticky lace on the glass. Smelled of raisin, plum, cherries, alcohol, and some sweet sugary sweet notes. Hopefully it tastes as good as it smells. Flavors were very fruity. Again, raisin, plum, rum, yeast, candy sugar with a somewhat grainy taste. Also could taste cherries from a can of fruit cocktail. Had a nice full, complex mouthfeel. Left a little bit of an alcohol burn on the back of the tongue. Plenty of carbonation. Very drinkable and enjoyable!

Photo of orbitalr0x
4.03/5  rDev +11.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

12oz bottle pours a deep red/amber bordering on brown with a small ring of light tan bubbles on top. A bit light for a quad, with plenty of carbonation rising up from the bottom. Aromas of raisins, caramel and brown sugar quickly met by phenolic aromas of bubblegum, banana and a nice yeasty spiciness. Light puffs of alcohol as well.

First sip brings a sweet caramel maltiness upfront with notes of raisin, brown sugar and a bit of cherry in there as well. Flows down with a mix of bubblegum and banana notes. Spicy yeast makes up the finish. Sweet throughout but it never gets too cloying. Minimal alcohol flavor, this is a tasty brew overall.

Mouthfeel is medium bodied and smooth which eases drinkability. Good carbonation. Not the best Quad I have sampled but it's a solid take on the style overall. I'll age one of these and see whats happens after lying it down for a bit.

Photo of Wasatch
4/5  rDev +11.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to NucularGeorge for this brew.

Poured into a chalice a cloudy light amber color, nice carbonation, nice little fizzy off-white head, basically no lacing at all. The nose is malty, yeasty, bready, and grapes. The taste is slightly sweet, tangy, malty, yeasty, grapey. The ABV is pretty pronounced though, slighty dry finish. Medium body. Drinkable, this is a nice quadrupel, recommended.

Photo of brewdlyhooked13
3.73/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3

Appearance - pours a reddish copper with a thin head of white. Moments later, the cover is bare save for an uneven ring. Somehow manages to place a few bits of lacing here and there. Turns pretty cloudy/chunky with the last few ounces added.

Aroma - sweet with a base, indistinct fruitiness. Hints of yeast at times and a full vapory alcohol effect on a deep inhale. Smells pleasant enough if somewhat plain.

Taste - before the grains can make any impact, a rush of sweetness and alcohol move in and set up. A bubble gum or maybe Pez candy flavor, a big alcohol effect which ducks any harshness. The swallow begins a trail of warmth from the back of the throat all the way down to the stomach, like the tail of a comet. I'm no expert on the style, but as far as I know this tastes pretty good and would probably also do well if aged a while. The aftertaste is more like an after-thought, mostly just shadows of the candy flavor and the abv.

Mouthfeel - an element of heaviness, syrupiness that helps without overdoing. Bubbles are lively, well done.

Drinkability - I'm glad I bought these at the Founder's Brewing Company event sponsored by the Dilly Deli, but this isn't something I'd keep around.

Photo of Shovelbum
4.05/5  rDev +12.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours a glowing clear red-orange body with a thin ring of head around the edge of the glass. While there is next to no head the color of the body is spectacular. Aromas of sweet caramel malt, pear, and mild estery clove and pepper. Flavor is rich sweet caramelized malt and candi sugar upfront, followed a respectable citric hop bitterness that takes it through to the finish. There are subtler berry and pear notes as well, that lend a low-level fruity complexity. Body is mid to full, with a substantial sweetness and smooth creamy mouthfeel. The 9.8% ABV is hardly detectable.

A pleasing ale for the nose tongue, and especially the eye. A tad on the sweet side, but there is enough carbonation (despite the meager head) and bitterness to lend a saving balance. That being said the bitterness actually seemed a just a tad crisp and could probably benefit from some aging (not sure how old this particular bottle is, but probably <6months). I’ll definitely look for this again.

Photo of malcontent
3.55/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours the color of a red anjou pear with no head whatsoever and a ring of foam around the edges. Pretty color but rather still looking otherwise.

Tons of alcohol up front with sweet bubblegum and ripe fruit (apples, apricots) lingering in the nose. Nice aromas although they are a bit all over the place.

Sweet but not cloyingly so, alcohol is very apparent but given that it's cold outside I'm willing to forgive it. Fruit is far more toned down than in the nose although bready flavors come on strong after the initial sip. Raisin and medicinal tastes compete with a funky bitterness on the finish. Yummy but unbalanced. Perhaps this could benefit from some aging.

Mouthfeel is thick and somewhat syrupy which is to be expected from the style. Unexpected carbonation melds with satisfying creaminess for a very pleasant feeling brew. Drinkability is OK although as previously noted, some maturation could do this one some good. NOTE: paired with some Italian black truffle cheese the drinkability of the beer dramatically improved as some of the harsher edges of the flavor mellowed quite a bit.

Photo of rhoadsrage
3.58/5  rDev -0.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

(Served in a chalice)

A- This beer has a glowing hazy deep ambler body when held to the light but looks pretty dark on the table. There are lots of tiny bubbles rolling up the sides of the glass. The creamy meniscus of light tan head forms sheets of foam over the glass after each sip only to slide back down into the beer.

S- The smell of circus peanuts is strong even during the pour. With a closer sniff, notes of banana are the strong and increase when it gets warmer. There is a nice soft sweet caramel note in the background.

T- The big banana and circus peanut note gives way to a strong alcohol flavor in the finish. Notes of sweet caramel and white sugar are followed by notes of banana taffy when it warms a bit.

M- This beer has a medium-full mouthfeel with an alcohol head that really dries out the finish with the tight little fizz.

D- This beer has a sweet sugary taste which is only balanced by a big alcohol heat. There is not much depth of malt flavors. I think age would help the alcohol settle down but I don't think there are enough malt flavors to come through after a bit of age.

Photo of neonbrown82
3.68/5  rDev +2.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

This is a decent beer. Nothing too special. I have yet to try an american quad that really blows me away, however. The beer pours to a clear ruby color with a small white head. Much more light and clear than I would have expected. Retention is fairly poor, as expected, and lacing is non-existent. Carbonation looks good, however, though the etching in the bottom of my Unibroue goblet helps.

The smell is the best part of the beer. Nice and caramel malty sweet along with a great banana ester and candi sugar presence. A hint of clove phenols and other spices as well. Very bubblegummy.

The taste is very similar to the aroma, though it is a bit more rough. Nice sweet caramel malt and candi sugar presence in the beginning, followed by a nice bubblegum and banana ester. The finish is intensely spicy. Has a rough and dirty biscuity malt flavor in the finish, along with a lingering bitterness.

The body is medium to heavy. Fairly big alcohol flavor in the finish. The aftertaste is not very pleasant, and it lingers forever. Probably not something I would want to drink again in the future. If I want a quad, I'll have a Rochefort 10 or a St. Bernardus Abt 12, maybe even Nostradamus or Westvleteren if it happens to be available.

Photo of Westsidethreat
3.5/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to NucularGeorge for this one.

A: Rust colored brew with a fair amount of sediment running through it. Body is calm with out a lot of motion to it. Head only has a beige ring around the glass with just a spill of minor bubbles across the top of the body.

S: Bananas, caramel, brown sugar, toast and dusty cloves.

T: Cotton candy and bubblegum sweetness is the first thing that crosses the palate with a lot more sugar on the way. Fruity esters of apple, raspberry, banana and cantelope are some main components here. Quite spicy with hints of cinnamon, nutmeg and coriander add some pizazz. Bready backbone of raw cinnamon rolls coast this one to finish. Finishes with over the top sweetness with alcohol vapors rolling up the nostrils.

M: Medium body, syrupy and full.

D: I once read a book about brewing that said most brewers are afraid of using too much sugar in their Belgian beers. This beer, has used enough and perhaps too much. Becomes a bit too cloying after a while. Perhaps some age would do this one some good.

Photo of rousee
2.88/5  rDev -20%
look: 2 | smell: 2 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 3

Not impressed with this offering from Founders. Pours a brown-ruby, almost no head at all and it disappears quickly. Smell is vinous and bubble gum-esque in too strong of a fashion. You can almost smell the heat that you expect this beer to exhibit on the palate. It should be more concealed and hidden than this.

The good news is it actually tastes a little better than it smells. You get the essence of bubble gum and grapes reminding me of grappa. There is some alcohol heat but it is delievered in a somewhat unpleasant way--a little more gentle than it smells but still one of the poorer examples of a quad that I have tried. I still love Founders as a brewery. I will just chalk it up to a style that they didnt quite hit right.

Photo of SPLITGRIN
3.45/5  rDev -4.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Very carbonated foggy deep amber brown body. Hosts a very quick fading light tan head, which is surprising considering the carbonation presence. Nose is very sweet with noticeable banana taffy kink of feel, also has honey and vanilla present. A buzz of banana, anise, and a back bone of slightly malty rich wheat. Alchol is soured somewhat but overall well hidden and doesnt impeed the brew. Does warm the belly well after about half way through. Slightly syrupy thick on the mouthfeel. A little sweet for everyday. Might age well though.

Photo of joedon
3.65/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a murky amber brown with a rapidly fading off-white head. Big, estery Belgian aroma. I smelled the fruity pear and pineapple notes as well as some bubble-gum.
Taste isn't quite up to a quadrupel. Lots of caramel and burnt sugar flavors. Some hop bitterness that doesn't match up to the residual sugar. A lot of phenolic-yeasty flavors.
Mouthfeel is good with a lot of alcohol warmth.
This is not a bad beer and is pretty drinkable for 9.8%. That said, I'd still choose La Trappe or St. Bernardus for my quad drinking.

Photo of phisig137
2.5/5  rDev -30.6%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 1

Pours a clear amber copper color, with a one finger head. Pour retention leaves nothing behind.

Aroma is a train wreck of booze. There is a tiny hint of caramel malt aromas, but it is overwhelmed by the alcohol. Pretty bad smelling.

Flavor is luckily a bit better. Some malt flavors up front, with nice toffe and biscuity notes. Sweet, and with a distinct presence of candi sugar. The finish is pure alcohol burn. Mouthfeel is heavy, slick, and coating. Drinkability is pretty low, due to the outrageously prevalent alcohol.

Overall, I think this is pretty bad, which surprises me, considering the quality of other founder's beers. Borderline drain pour, if I wasn't sipping it slowly. Normally, I LOVE Belgian quads.... this one just misses the mark.. by quite a bit. If you like rubbing alcohol, this may be your beer, otherwise, I wouldn't recommend it. Thanks to DeeJayDan for sending it to me, I am very glad I got a chance to try it.... it's just not something that I'd spend my money on again.

Photo of feloniousmonk
3.43/5  rDev -4.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Hazy, amber-toned hue, slim whitish head atop....

Nose is sweetish, and citric, but lightly played..candyish, really, like candy corn...not good. A bit plastic.

Taste: Big, fat orange flavor, but more like circus peanuts...plastic, again...dark and bright fruits shine in this, but they don't feel right, they feel artificial. It's a fake Belgian, that we know, but it doesn't have to feel fake.
Very odd, and off, and out of sorts, this one. Doesn't resemble quads, as I know them...maybe a sugary tripel? 9.8%, and feeling it, a bit...but still lacking finesse and ...well, not a bad beer, but more heat than true character, here, more bigness than real flavor. Rather dismissable, sorry to say.

Full-bodied, with a long, hot, citric finish...but not a recommended Quad, if you like to limit your experiences to the very best, This ain't one of them, but me, I try 'em all!

thanks to trbeer!

Photo of scruffwhor
4.05/5  rDev +12.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The color is an awesome candy coated cognac and brandy with its luscious amber hues. But alas, very little head after the pour and none what so ever about two minutes after. Also lacking in the bubble or lacing department as well. The kick ass color saves this beers appearance. The aroma is heavy on candied bananas, rose petals, burny malts, and some corn syrup. Yes, it does have a smell. Not like most other Quads I've had before, but I like it's unique nature. Very malty sweet, not too many dark flavors, more like light, alcoholic flavors to be precise. Some floral, even hoppy note intgrated with amaretto and medium toasted malt flavors. The tongue hasa mild velvety silk of alcohol. Feels like a lighter scotch might. Very nice and different. Would like to buy again and share with some open minded friends.

Photo of Sycodrummer
3.98/5  rDev +10.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured from the stubby 12oz. bottle into a Chimay chalice the beer was a dark cherry red color with one-finger of frothy white head that sustained well and left ample lacing. A steady stream of carbonation bubbles eminated from the center of the glass. A solid looking beer.

The nose is quite aromatic with aromas of alcohol and "belgian" yeast predominant. Some dark fruitty flavors of plum and raison come through but are not overly abundant. A slight black berry currant aroma with some phenolic medicinal notes as well.

The taste has some alcoholic hints up front but not overly hot. Light berry and fruit flavors grab the palate with some raisony flavors coming through. Phenolic flavors and alcohol intensify as the beer warms as does the yeast character and the hot dark fruit flavors associated with the style. Some grape/wine like notes in the finish and the body seems a tad thin.

Medium body, seemingly a little thinner than comparable examples of the style. About average carbonation, that does not get in the way.

This represents a very nice interpretation of the quad by an american brewer. The body lacks a little depth and the alcohol really sneak up on you here. Alcoholic flavors seem muted throughout, but soon make their presence known. All in all an enjoyable beer.

Founders Bad Habit Belgian Quad from Founders Brewing Company
82 out of 100 based on 115 ratings.