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Founders Bad Habit Belgian Quad - Founders Brewing Company

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BA SCORE
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115 Ratings
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Ratings: 115
Reviews: 102
rAvg: 3.6
pDev: 15.56%
Wants: 57
Gots: 2 | FT: 1
Brewed by:
Founders Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Quadrupel (Quad) |  9.80% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: CRJMellor on 02-22-2004)
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Photo of Nipitato
3.83/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Purchased a bottle at Julio's Liquors in Westborough, MA

A: Visibly effervescent. Glowing deep amber color. No head.

S: Strong clove like phenols predominate. Slightly malty background. Complex interplay with clove like phenols and fruity esters.

T: Raisiny esters take the lead in this complex ester, phenol, alcohol, malt tango. Spicy phenols less present than smell would indicate. Alcohol taste also present.

MF: Medium body. Effervescent. Alcohol warming but subtle like a triple.

D: Sit back and relax with theis big boozy beauty. It will catch up with you if you are not careful.

Photo of shbobdb
2.2/5  rDev -38.9%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 1.5

Aventinus had begun that day like any other -- preening infront of a mirror. He was, after all, one of the finest beers in existence and he knew it.

But Gambrinus is a capricious god and does not tolerate such egoism. So, he decided to play a trick on prideful, prideful Aventinus. Now, there are many variations of the old story floating about -- some say that Aventinus could only love himself and that Gambrinus granted Aventinus's wish by having his female counterpart, Aventina walk through the mirror one morning. Others say, in a story which is perhaps much closer to the truth, that Aventinus was slumming in some seedy bar near the Kellog plant and had a tryst with some flashy (but ultimately unfulfilling) macro lager.

While the details are lost to us, the result is not -- Bad Habit (possibly named for either Aventinus's narcissism, or for his habit of slumming -- this is the strongest piece of evidence for the latter version of the story).

So, what is Bad Habit? Well, the smell is initially fairly exciting -- bits of banana, hints of clove. It really takes after his father, very weizenesque with a hefty dose of alcohol warmth to cut the spice.

But it is all downhill from there. A razor-thin mouthfeel leaves a great deal to be desired, while the potenital of the malts and sugars are left completely behind as raw banana takes over. Nothing exciting, nothing interesting, no wheat-spice nor even clove (really) to back it up. It tastes like a homebrew that was fermented far too hot. Some say that it was merely recessive genes that Aventinus had always had, but rarely manifested all comming to the fore -- others insist it was a legacy from its macro-lager mother.

Regardless, this is a child that would have been better served by being locked up in the attic, never to be heard from again.

Photo of ChainGangGuy
2.4/5  rDev -33.3%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

Appearance: Pours a light, hazy copper body with no real head or lacing to speak of.

Smell: Stinging aroma of concord grapes and rubbing alcohol. Quite similar to a cheap, well brandy.

Taste: Harsh and astringent, to say the least. Hints of dry, stale bubblegum mixed sweetened fortified wine paint a picture of a beer gone horribly awry. However, any amiss flavors are immediately drowned out by the blisteringly hot alcohol burn. In a word: Yeesh!

Mouthfeel: Thin-bodied, with an oily, sticky mouthfeel.

Drinkability: All of the wonderous qualities that make for a truly delicious quadruple were totally abandoned for this brew. Definitely the most un-quad "quad" I have ever tasted, and a real stomach churner, too.

Photo of AndoBrew
2.15/5  rDev -40.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 1

*I hated it and will never taste it again.. thankgoodness*

app: looks normal and ok, sept this dont look like no quad at all.

smell: belgian candy smell, but a bad one. very lite and fruity.. a touch of a medicine nose.

taste: OH NO!! this is not good at all. the booze taste like cough syrup flavoring.. it all tastes very fake and off.. fake candy belgian sweetness, fake booze flavoring.. I would not be shocked if it were all artificaly flavored. way to sweet, not depth or complexity. upset.

mf: why do i bother. this feels like bad beer.

drinkable?: NO!! I can not even fake it!

Photo of wcudwight
3.9/5  rDev +8.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Sampled with Enola while assembling Christmas gifts. Thanks for the help Enola!!!
Pours a peachy sunset color with some maple mixed in. Nice coloration...good mixture between lights and darks. Small head, but what little head there was had good retention.
Smells of banannas and alcohol. The bananna aroma dominates the alcohol though.
Nice fruity flavors. Bananna, peach, cheeries. Very sweet. Candy like sweetness with a crisp warming finish of alcohol.
Crisp, smooth, medium bodied in the mouth.
Due to the high alcohol this one is a sipper for sure. Drinkability wasn't bad, but I think this one could use another year or so cellering.
Overall a good beer that I recommend. I have swedejay to thank for this brew.

Photo of tendermorsel
4.28/5  rDev +18.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

This beer poured very smoothly into my snifter...
Great color and head. The head disapated nicely.
Good aroma. Very sweet. Tastes of bubble gum.
A bit too much yeast for my liking. One of the bottles in my 4 pack had clumps of yeast:(

Overall a very unique Quad and well worth tring if you see it.

Photo of Enola
4.05/5  rDev +12.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

This was a good beer. The style is a newer one to me but this beer was a good beer to have at 2:00am Christmas morning. The color was a light orange and there was a small head with plenty of carbonation. The smell was of alcohol and it was fairly fruity. The taste was of dried bananna chips and the alcohol was evident. The mouthfeel burnt a little due the the abv. This beer is a sipper for sure.

Santa got some chocolate chip cookies and a Belgium Quad this year.

Photo of ndekke39
4.38/5  rDev +21.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Poured from the 12 oz bottle. Pours a slightly cloudy tawny orange, with a thin white head. Small, continuous stream of fizz keeps the head on it. Smells sweet: caramel, yeast, banana, bread. Tastes much of the same... warm, bready, yeasty, bananas, alcohol. Overall the beer features bread and soft fruits like banana and pears. Very small fizzy bubbles that continue to form. Very drinkable beer, although the higher alcohol content (9.8% ABV) requires some caution.

Photo of ultralarry2006
3.05/5  rDev -15.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Poured from a 12 oz. bottle. Leaves less than one finger of a tan tinted head that fades to just a foam ring at the edges, and it leaves no lacing. Body is a hazy light garnet.

Smell - horse blanket, cloves and bananas, and hints of plums and apricots, and a hint of spicy alcohol.

Taste - horse blanket with sour cherries, plums, apricots, and a hint of saltine crackers, all washed through with some medicinal alcohol.

Mouthfeel - thin bodied, and fluid.

Drinkability - this is decent, but not great, and the high abv holds down the sessionability.

Photo of BelgianAleSlut
3.7/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Saw this 12 oz single while picking up the weekend beer selection, thought I'd give it a try. Founder's has been reliable thus far. Screw cap?

Poured into goblet, semi-cloudy caramel color which appears on the flat side with no foam/lacing. Smells of apple-cider vinegar and has a good belgian ale type note. Has tastes of sweet and sour, not sure if I picked up a bad bottle or this is the desired flavor. Mouthfeel is o.k., good weight and slight stinging on the tongue is nice. Wondering if the small bottle hinders this beer to develop properly. Drinkability increases as the tongue gets accustomed to sharp edges.

Visiting family near Grand Rapids around the holidays. I may give it a try of the tap, but will not purchase bottle again. As far as quads go, La Trappe (Koningshoeven) still ranks better.

Photo of CharlesDarwin
3.38/5  rDev -6.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Originally reviewed on October 14, 2006. 12 Oz Bottle. Aroma blasts forth a heavy phenolic crush of banana skins and ripe fruits. Surprising for the style. This is carried along with a quite hot alcohol. Flavor is more of the phenolic yeast character, but moreso in a sweet, bright crisp fruity schnapps character, yet a little shallow. The flavor runs a current of milder malts and not a depth of sugars. There are some noticable aged belgian style hop characters. Alcohol is very warm and biting and the beer could use a little more depth for the style. Really not terrible though.

Photo of IntriqKen
2.8/5  rDev -22.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Pours a nice dark Golden orange with a half finger of white that melts to a ring of white lace.
Aroma is definite belgium....soft sweet fruits like apricots and peach with Belgium bready yeast and a hint of the alcohol in this brew coming on the tail end.
Taste is candied fruits...candied apricot and peach....then heavy on the alcohol. A slight bubblegum taste as an aftertaste.
Mouthfeel is rich and full with lots of tiny carbonation tingling the tongue.
To me, this Belgium quad just misses the mark. The elements are there...they just aren't there balanced or right.

Photo of GbVDave
3.8/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 12oz bottle into a St. Bernardus chalice.

A: Pours a clear ruby brown color. Similar in color to Grade B canadian maple syrup from Trader Joes that I have. No head or lacing.

S: Huge aromas of Bourbon, vanilla, and raw alcohol upon initial pour. As it warmed I detected notes of raisins, pears, and ripe melons.

T: Lots going on here. Bourbon, vanilla, plums, candi sugar, rum soaked raisins, dark over-ripe fruit, and spices.

M: Unexpectedly creamy. I was expecting it to be thin and harsh given it's clarity and obvious alcohol content.

D: Any more than one and you can forget about tasting anything else for a while.

At first I was a little put off by the color and the clarity of this Quad. I prefer my Quads darker in color and opaque. Then I realised that this is just a different interpretation of the style. Not bad at all.

Photo of kboett77
3.53/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3

Wow, quite and experience. The alcohol is quite evident in the odor along with a strong smell of browning banana. The first taste was quite a shock, very sweet and syrupy, a bit much for me at first. However, as the beer warms the flavor improves. The beer cascades down the tongue with a sparkle and a coating sensation. The flavor brings a scotch ale to mind but with out the sophistication. Sweet malty, and banana like, could maybe use more hops?? The beer is quite warming however, and not a bad choice for a cold winter day.

Photo of gpcollen1
3.88/5  rDev +7.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a deep dark amber maple syrup into my Ommegang Chalice. Head is virtually nonexistent within a minute after the pour. Aromas immediately say Quad. I am a bit surprised as I did not expect this too resemble other Quads so much aromiwize. Deep alcohol soaked raisins soaked in molasses – wew.

Taste – well wow that is a big malty bastard. Bold flavors to match the aroma with no sediment/yeast. I never thought I would love the absence of yeast so much but I do. I think you have to be a Quad fan to enjoy this and glad I got to try it.

Many thanks to Vancer!!

Photo of Estarrio
3.4/5  rDev -5.6%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Pours a cloudy, light-raisin brown with some floating yeast sediment. Absolutely no head and zero lacings.

Distinct candy, black licorice aroma with some faint malt smell.

Sweet black Licorice, cherry cough syrup, some malt must mostly a soda-like taste. Some bitterness from the yeast is present.

Syrupy with low carbonation, rather unpleasing palate.

This is completely untrue to the style and a forgettable beer altogether.

Photo of ALESwhatCURESya
2.45/5  rDev -31.9%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

First of all, not what I was expecting for a Belgian Quad.

A-Pours like a barleywine with a copperis body and absolutely no head. The body appears with a syrupy, candy slickness.

M-Not much detected other than fusel alcohol. A harsh acetone smell fills the nose if a deep whiff is taken.

T-Much more like a belgian barleywine to me. (That sounds like a great next homebrew to try!) The spicy hops fight with the strong Belgian yeast strain. A coarse hop flavor finishes with a pseudo-sweet taste. Somewhat medicinal in taste, but not as bad as it probably sounds.

M-This is not a terrible beer, but the harsh finish leaves the tongue like sandpaper. The bittering hops come on too strong for this type of style.

D-High in alcohol and lots of taste, but nothing here blends that well. I wanted a much heavier malt presence in this and it was a bit thin and overboard.

Maybe I am being too hard on this beer, but true quadrupel fans will, most-likely, be disappointed in this attempt by a great brewery.

Photo of lackenhauser
3.1/5  rDev -13.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Very nice-reddish orange hue. No real carbonation to speak of. Low aroma. Sweet malt. Piney and vinuous. Big malty flavor with a tinge of alcohol burn in there. I hate to use the word to describe it but it was "shrimpy" tasting to me. Fishy/metallic like flavors. Good body-I dont have much to compare it to quad wise.Fairly dry in the finish department. Ok overall-not much here to rave about. Most Founders beers knock my socks off-this is too much booze and malt and not much else for me. I would say to at least try and form your own opinion.

Photo of bruachan
3.45/5  rDev -4.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

it's a copper beer with a thin headfilm. a fair column of bubbles rises in the center of my duvel tulip

the aroma is full of coriander and sharp (only slightly hot) fruitiness. no sign of hops and the malt characteristics are secondary. the flavors match but the alcohol plays a larger role...it's a little much considering the alcohol is sub-10%. it's dry and fruity and really not all that malty. certainly not full-bodied

i'll cellar the rest for mellowing

Photo of brewandbbq
4.08/5  rDev +13.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours hazy, dark copper, with a subtle release of carbonation.
A thin, off-white head appears for only several seconds, and fades to memory leaving a still surface and no lacework.
Aromatics are very promising. Huge bubblegum and fruit, with a fairly complex yeastiness.
Grape jam with the beginnning of rum notes and warming spice.
Aromatics have a lingering alcohol warmth with suggestions of cherries and cloves.
Mouthfeel is a bit sticky, overlapping the mild carbonation.
The pallet is juicy and lightly gummy. Plenty of belgian quad character, with phenols aplenty, but no fusels.
Residuals are still a bit heavy as the brew is a fresh example, but not detracting.
Fruity and warming with rum notes and a fairly complex yeast profile.
Finishes warming and slightly sweet, with bitterness in check.
I can see this one improving for years to come.
A higher level of carbonation would be welcomed to create a more authentic "quad" experience in the nose and pallet.
More karma goes out to Hopasaurusrex for hooking me up. Thanks!

Photo of Sammy
3.9/5  rDev +8.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Thanks jpm30. Good aroma of fresh yeast and fruit. A great tasting beer, though quad is an amazing style. Good soapy bubble white head on golden body. Tasty yeasty drinkable Belgian, unique taste, with spicy secondary. Good significant carbonation. Medium bannana mouthfeel. Funky. Satisfying.

Photo of kmo1030
3.28/5  rDev -8.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

hazed slightly orangey ruby brown with almost no head.
fruity bubblegum aroma with coconut, vanilla, brown sugar, and a little yeast. a little bit of maltiness is detectable as well.
lots of bubblegum in the taste, with coconut and vanialla. it's got a cidery quality that adds some sourness to the mix... malts show up at the end a little with a little caramel and pepper, followed by a little alcholic burn.
pretty full mouthfeel with relatively active carbonation.
decent drinkability... but it's pretty damn sweet like bubblegum apple cider. i'm giong to cellar the other two that i have and see if it improves, it just may.

Photo of ppoitras
2.2/5  rDev -38.9%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

12oz bottle purchased as a single from Julio's, Marlboro, MA.

Poured into a heavy glass chalice, formed a minimal 1/8" layer of bubbles over the cloudy orangey amber brew. Head is down to a spotty layer of swirly teeny bubbles almost immediately, with little to no lacing. Aroma is syrupy fermented apples. Taste starts with a quick flash of malty sweetness, quickly overtaken by a strong licorice flavor in the middle, and closes with a powerful shot of alcohol. Mouthfeel is tough to handle, and drinkability is cut short by the burn. Not one I'd go searching out again anytime soon.

Photo of adammills
2.45/5  rDev -31.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

I am more than a bit disapointed with this beer, it may just be a case of a brewery trying to take a good thing too far. The alcohol was overpowering, almost like the beer was too green. I enjoy a high gravity brews but the alcohol was almost burning with this one. Very spicy, hints of bananas. Not super drinkable. Founders stouts are much better.

Photo of kmpitz2
4.08/5  rDev +13.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

12 oz bottle. This one is a deep golden color with a finger of ivory head that sits very sturdy over the beer. There is a huge outgasing of carbonation through the brew; clarity is moderate. The head falls slowly, but is really chunky even after sitting for a bit. The aroma is full of raisin, a light alcohol spiceyness, as well as a healthy Belgian spiceyness and a little fruity ester from the yeast. I think this one smells nice. Taking a sip, I get a bit of almost smokey phenol that moves to a mild raisin and alcohol, finishing strong in spiceyness, almost a little pepperyness. The flavor actually feels a little muted. It is not as bold as I was expecting. Mouthfeel is thick with a solid moderate carbonation. It is almost a little chewy. I find this one very drinkable. It shows the ABV, but it is never a flaw in the brew. I really think the flavor and aroma marry well. The fruity ester seems a little misplaced, otherwise it is nice.

Founders Bad Habit Belgian Quad from Founders Brewing Company
82 out of 100 based on 115 ratings.