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Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale) - Founders Brewing Company

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Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)

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Ratings: 3,949
Reviews: 1,154
rAvg: 4.02
pDev: 10.7%
Wants: 158
Gots: 795 | FT: 49
Brewed by:
Founders Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Old Ale |  9.80% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 08-31-2005

Old ale brewed with molasses and oak-aged.

50 IBU
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Ratings: 3,949 | Reviews: 1,154
Photo of MadeInTheMitten
3.35/5  rDev -16.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 2.75

A quarter of a way through and I can tell its heartburn waiting to happen. Which is a shame! Still a good beer!

After finishing this one, my lips are sticky ass hell. Take that for what it's worth. The heartburn never came, but I'm still feeling like I drank a heavy stout.. Must be the molasses.

Photo of ovaltine
4.42/5  rDev +10%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Look: Rich amber, 1-1/2 fingers of opaque white head.

Smell: The oak is present, but the molasses and toffee aromas sneak in to make your mouth water.

Taste: The oak takes a vanilla flavor, and the molasses and toffee flavors balance that perfectly. This is a traveshamockery good dessert beverage, if you choose to go down that path.

Feel: Nice carbonation for a beverage this big, the malt bill is a syrupy balance that fits this beverage very well.

Overall: I have a bottle of KBS aging in my beverage fridge that I just assumed would go to the head of my Founders class. That is no longer a safe assumption after enjoying this magnificent Old Ale. Well done by an iconic American brewer.

Photo of BeerAndGasMasks
3.96/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Dark (but not black) old ale. Enjoyable.

Photo of Csikic93
4.33/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Looks like a dark copper. Malts and clove on the nose. Starts smooth and finishes with a cinnamon and clove flavor

Photo of lilsmizzul1225
4.52/5  rDev +12.4%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Tried a fresh bottle and initial thoughts were great! Have a second bottle cellared for a year as a follow up. Will probably rerate once I've had the cellared bottle.

Photo of tedvr
4.13/5  rDev +2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Pours dark amber, with a white medium head. Smells are of sweet malt and mild caramel. Tastes are caramel with a malt backbone. Somewhat carbonated with an interesting finish. Overall and interesting beer that I wonder what it would be like if it was aged.

Photo of Ian_B
3.95/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

I am so conflicted because this tastes like a beer version of CocaCola, but unfortunately is almost as sweet and less carbonated. Definitely still better than Cola, though lacking some bitterness to balance while still being pretty tasty.

Photo of mchegash
4.08/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Appearance - 4/5
Darker shade of red-brown, which has a particularly vibrant bright red dimension if you hold it up to the light right. Fairly clear, but defintely a little hazy and particles can be seen in the beer. A finger of light-tan head which dissipates down to a thin layer. A slightly lower than average amount of carbonation can be seen rising up the beer.

Smell - 4/5
Sweet fruity flavors, sweet and roasty malts. A noticeable cinnamon spiciness. Has some earthy and citrusy elements as well. A little oakiness and booziness as well.

Taste - 4.25/5
A complex mix of delicious rich malts, along with some fruit notes, strong cinnamon-esque spiciness, bubblegum, oak, and boozy flavors as well.

Mouthfeel - 3.75/5
Medium bodied, light carbonation. Fairly smooth, more creamy than crispy.

Overall - 4/5
Overall this is a great beer, with a quite distinct taste. Would highly recommend it.

Photo of mynie
4.12/5  rDev +2.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Can't believe I never reviewed this. This was the first weird, high-ABV beer I ever regularly consumed. This was back when spending, wait for it, TEN WHOLE DOLLARS on a six pack was considered extravagant--so extravagant, in fact, that this would sit on shelves for ages.

Then, similar to BCBS, they upped the price even further, triggering some weird Thorstein Veblen impulses in our nation's monied classes that actually drove up demand. I hadn't seen it sitting on a shelf in ages, and since I'd had so many in the past, I never really felt like seeking it out.

But it was just sitting there the other day, a mere three times more expensive than the last time I sampled it. I couldn't resist.

Pours dark red and very limp. Smells like honey, spices, and booze. Little hints of whiskey, I guess. Some vanilla. Not nearly as intense as I remember, but that's what a decade of scorching your pallet will do to you.

Tastes super sweet but balanced out nicely by a prominently boozy back end. Honey up front, malt syrup in the middle, vanilla, bread, and english toffee at the end. Very nice. It holds up even today.

Photo of classixIII
4.07/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Hazy dark copper, fair amount of bubbles but little to no head. Sweet molasses and oak definitely come through in the smell and taste. Hit of alcohol and bitterness at the finish. Nice Old Ale!

Photo of ARoman
4.04/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 3.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

12oz bottle poured into a belgian tulip glass. The beer is a murky bronze orange color and is topped by a sparse, soapy white head that has a decent, messy retention and light lace. The initial aroma is a bright sugary toffee / molasses with some nuttiness. This evolves to a more bourbon maltiness with and alcohol touch and a hint of a floral spice and later settles on molasses and wood. The taste is a medium high sweet, complimented by a medium bitter finish. It's thick and malty with a sticky texture and light foam carbonation. The full body has a flavor profile that's nutty with molasses and a bourbon caramel and finishes with an alcohol warmth and wood quality with a spicy kick. The aftertaste is dry and cloying with a waxy citrus bitterness and spice and a hint of nuts amd caramel. It's a strong and lingering aftertaste but not offensive.

Photo of pat61
4.5/5  rDev +11.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Had at the Bryant lake Bowl on tap.
A: Copper amber with a slight haze under a 1” off white clingy foam collar.
S: Herbal hop note, spice, toffee, raw sugar, malt.
T: Big flavors of caramel, toffee, cardamom, a hint of anise, cola, vanilla.
F: Chewy, creamy, some astringency from the oak.
O: a big bold beer for sipping.

Photo of Bone53
3.92/5  rDev -2.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Not as good as i expected from Founders. A little thin, weak, and not rich enough for the style. I also get very little oak character. More like a fairly good barleywine to me. I will not seek this one out again

Photo of riverotterrob
3.97/5  rDev -1.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

It's mahogany color, only issue in the appearance is the head, which is minimal and short lived. I like how the brewer used the oak's astringency coupled with the hops and alcohol. The Fact founder's only adds oak, not oak and bourbon is also nice because the oak only adds a note to the beer's overall profile, without dominating it. It's a good beer that's fairly unique.

Photo of JonB25
4.85/5  rDev +20.6%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

Had on tap at Founders

Photo of AppaZappa
4.28/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Pours honey color, great looking beer with nice lacing. Smell is dried fruit, molasses, alcohol, oak. Molasses and malt, sweet and smooth. Very nice sipper!

Photo of jasonpeckins32
3.91/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 3.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 5 | overall: 3.75

Pours a transparent, crystal clear amber color and has nearly no head at all. Much lighter in color than I was expecting.

A fruit-like, maybe even wine-like aroma leaps out of the glass at me.

Flavor is immensely rich and strong. Malty characteristics combine with a sweet, almost syrupy flavor (not feel) and is flanked by a supreme bitterness on the sides of my tongue. That bitterness quickly gives way to a wine-esque alcohol warmth. Lingering sweetness and a mild bready flavor continue after tasting.

The mouthfeel is a little bigger than this beer's appearance leads on. And its nearly perfectly carbonated.

Photo of todbell
3.46/5  rDev -13.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Poured from tap at long wells nebr. Nice color with creamy white head. Oak barrel taste really comes out. Bitter bite at the end.

Photo of SpamMusubi
4.98/5  rDev +23.9%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 5

A near perfect beer. Body was a little lighter than I expected it to be. Felt like it should have been a little richer in mouth feel.

Photo of Sandalwood
3.92/5  rDev -2.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Pours a cloudy brownish red color with a small off white head and good carbonation. The odor is sweet, candy like, malty, dark fruits, berry, plum, raisin, vanilla, dry wood, oak, rich, slightly floral. The taste is woods, oak, dried fruits, plum, malty, sweet, spices, grapefruit. Bitter dry throughout.

Photo of ajm5108
3.93/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Biscuity feel, very chewy, definite sense of the molasses and some dark fruit, has a scotch ale linger, with a oak aged flavor as well.

Photo of MacMalt
4.79/5  rDev +19.2%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

Poured a beautiful honey color with thick, milky head and light lacing; a very attractive beer. The smell is complex with fruit and spicy oakiness. The initial taste is the molasses and malts but is quickly followed by a blast of bitterness. Medium-bodied, pleasant mouth feel. Overall, I really like this beer and stock up when it's released in the Spring.

Photo of jeffdillon
4.76/5  rDev +18.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 5

I bought a glass on tap at the Barrel Chest last weekend and loved it! I understand it may be here in the bottle soon, can't wait!

Photo of oregonduck
2.58/5  rDev -35.8%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Smell is different than the taste. Smells a bit odd and sour, with some spice. Yet taste is very malt forward and overwhelmingly sweet, with a bit of a spiciness. Sweetness lingers on the finish. No noticeable hop presence to balance it out. Hard to finish as it is so sweet and strong. WNBA.

Photo of tone77
3.77/5  rDev -6.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Poured from a brown 12 oz. bottle. Has a dark bronze color with a 1/2 inch head. Smell is of oak, dark fruits. Taste is oak, alcohol, dark fruits, malts, a light sweetness. Feels medium bodied in the mouth and overall is a good quality beer.

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Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale) from Founders Brewing Company
90 out of 100 based on 3,949 ratings.