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Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale) - Founders Brewing Company

Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)

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rAvg: 4.01
pDev: 11.22%


Brewed by:
Founders Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Old Ale |  9.80% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
50 IBU
Old ale brewed with molasses and oak-aged.

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MetalMountainMastiff

California

4.13/5  rDev +3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Bottled poured into tulip

A -Pours very smooth, A dark reddish orange, head immediately disappeared to a thin line around the rim.

S - Cranberrie, raisns, Dark fruits, Caramel, syrup, yeast. Sweet, sugar

T - Raisins, malt, oak, Dark fruits, Tea.

M - Full bodied, but mildly carbonated.

O - Pretty awesome, A lot more fruity than expected, definitely enjoy it.

Serving type: bottle

04-22-2014 19:41:37 | More by MetalMountainMastiff
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Badger6

Virginia

4/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a 12oz bottle to a snifter.

A: Deep caramel color, small head that dissipates fast. Little visible carbonation. Minimal lacing.

S: Abundant dark notes: molasses, plums, raisins, significant candied sugar.

T: The flavor closely follows the nose. Sweet with hugely present plum, raisin, molasses, candied sugar flavors. Slightly boozy, but not overwhelming.

M: Heavy body, thick on the palate. Slightly carbonated, fades fast. Easy to drink.

O: Excellent example of the style. Unlike many, this is very drinkable, and pleasant, right from the start. Definitely will go in the category to have again. 4s across the board. Well done, thanks of brewing this one for us.

Serving type: bottle

04-22-2014 02:07:46 | More by Badger6
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martyl1000

Wisconsin

3.96/5  rDev -1.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

UPDATE: I'm having to downgrade my quick rating of 7/13/12 (4.25).

Pours a brandy brown , with a nice off-white head that sticks around pretty well.

The aroma seems to really hold back. What little one gets is sweet malt and dark dried fruits, prune in particular. A whiff of banana taffy.

Definitely the best old ale I've tried, though I think I've now determined I don't like old ales. This beer approaches the general vicinity of sweetness. But other flavors dominate: wet cardboard, mild leather, rum. Hop bitterness? I think so, though certainly a refracted hop flavor. And what sweetness there is is of the cloying variety.

Great mouth feel. Smooth, well-carbonated, viscous. The abv definitely introduces itself.

I can intellectualize the quality of good old ales. But I think I just don't like them. This one definitely carries a much less offensive combo of cardboard and leather I've seen in others, like North Coast Old Stock or Anchor Old Foghorn (wait, that's an English barley wine). I actually love Bell's Old Ale, so, what're ya gonna do?

Serving type: bottle

04-18-2014 01:11:35 | More by martyl1000
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Chasmill70

Minnesota

3.89/5  rDev -3%
look: 4.75 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

a - a beautiful beer. Head dissipates rapidly, probably because of the alcohol content.

s - the most disappointing part of the beer. Very light malty aroma or oak character here. Does have the characteristic treacle aroma, but I would have liked more complexity.

t - delicious, with dark fruit, malt and some oak character in the finish. The hot alcohol flavor and hop bite in the finish detract from the enjoying of the flavor, however.

m - velvety and smooth.

o - another fine offering from Founders! I'm hoping aging will mellow the hot alcohol flavors...they definitely have a "headache" flavor. I hope it relaxes into the body in a few months.

Serving type: bottle

04-16-2014 02:16:37 | More by Chasmill70
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Alextricity

Michigan

4.1/5  rDev +2.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Bottled 2/06/14 and poured 4/15/14. $3.49 a single.

Appearance: Pours a "quiet" red/orange color with a nice off-white head and lacing at the start.

Smell: Wow. Dark fruits, barrel, molasses sweetness, oak... just as I expected from the label and style. There's also a slight hint of booze as well.

Taste/feel: Just looking at it in the glass, it looks sweet. That's probably just because I know there's molasses in it though. This beer is sweetsweetsweet, which you should figure if you know the style, see that this beer is brewed with molasses, or see that the IBUs are "only" 50 IBUs. Molasses, candied dark fruits, oak, rich and heavy caramel malts with a bit of a toasted malt aftertaste with an underlying subtle bitterness to keep it from being sickly sweet. Just looking at it in the glass should give you an idea of how it feels. Very mild carbonation with a pretty full body. Some would call it "flat", but it's a mild carbonation that I'm liking for this beer. Also, the body is big, but it's not to the point where it's syrupy/cloying. Then again, the nice depth of flavor also helps that. Don't get me wrong, it IS a very sweet beer, but it's not a chore to drink by any means. 9.8% is hidden perfectly as well.

Overall, an incredibly tasty choice for those who dig a big, bold, malty, sweet beer. It may not be something that I'd personally drink very often (I'm already a "ticker" as it is...), but there is absolutely no denying that this is a phenomenal beer that warrants a try to any beer aficionado. I may go buy myself another single just to see how this thing ages. It is sweet as hell, but it is equally as tasty.

Serving type: bottle

04-15-2014 21:30:25 | More by Alextricity
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Mavigo

Michigan

4.29/5  rDev +7%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Had this a few times before. Served in a snifter.

A: Pours a sumptuous ruby, mahogany color that is accompanied by a 1/4 inch tan head that lingers for a few minutes before dissipating completely. Has a few patches of lace but not much.

S: Incredible aroma, smells of licorice, oak, honey, caramel, plums, yeast, molasses, cinnamon, malts, spices

T: A quite sweet and flavorful beer. It's a bit syrupy but not overtly so, honey, oak, molasses predominate with tinges of plums, yeast, and cinnamon coupled with a slight alcoholic kick at the end.

M: Full bodied, slightly carbonated, very thick and rich. Drink slowly.

O: Conforming to all my other experiences with Founders beers, this was incredible. I rarely drink old ales, I know this is not my first but I can't remember my last but this one will always stick with me. Expensive yet it's nose and mouth candy, got to have this one.

Serving type: bottle

04-13-2014 19:44:22 | More by Mavigo
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dank203

New Jersey

4.26/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

ale with good medium fruity sweet sugary notes and definitely oaky notes. hints of cinnamon and nutmeg spice. hint of an apple or some lighter fruit. pretty complex and drinkable, not overly sweet. well balanced and just really nice, well rounded beer, not much hop presence

Serving type: bottle

04-13-2014 00:02:48 | More by dank203
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Uanof

Texas

4.13/5  rDev +3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: deep caramel to light mahogany in color, the head dissapeared as fast as i served the beer, shows little carbonation. No visible yeast or particles.

S: sweet and rich in dark notes like plums, molasses, raisins and dark candy sugar.

T: profoundly sweet, this beer is wildly big on dark notes. Plenty of plum and raisin like flavors. No alcohol or wood notes present at the moment.

M: as thick as can be, slightly chewy, flavors don't linger around for much, which might get you drinking it faster than you should.

O: a very true representation of the style and one mighty balance if i may add. This is an old ale definitely worth looking for and for saving some.

Serving type: bottle

04-12-2014 06:09:21 | More by Uanof
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wordemupg

Alberta (Canada)

4.15/5  rDev +3.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

355ml bottle poured into pint glass 7/4/14

A almost clear amber with some fine sediment, thumbs width of tan foam hangs around for ages leaving 4 distinct rings followed by random patches, looks great

S heaps of caramel and toffee, candied cherries, brown sugar, sugar coated raisins, vanilla, leather, just a hint of oak and molasses

T slightly more oak and less of the caramels but still quite sweet, some hazelnut I didn't smell, some spice I can't place, tastes solid but I preferred the smell

M thick and syrupy, low carbonation but to be expected, no heat at all, my lips are stuck together, sweet woody finish

O the booze is invisible, quite drinkable for 10%er, lots of sweet malt and just a little barrel, well rounded stuff

I didn't expect to see this want of mine on the bottom shelf of a random store in Australia. If I didn't need to fly across the Pacific I might have grabbed a few to sit on.

Serving type: bottle

04-07-2014 07:31:01 | More by wordemupg
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RollBounce

New York

3.9/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 4.75

bored with very little leasing slightly amber and cloudy notes smell is lately muted in glass with hints of cinnamon brown sugar and bread some tropical notes are found. Overall it is a white tropical compared to the aged old curmudgeon that I sat on for 2 years ahead papaya and mango now it's definitely better in the bottle but worth a try.

Serving type: on-tap

04-05-2014 15:56:29 | More by RollBounce
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NuckleDragger

Michigan

4.33/5  rDev +8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

A: Pretty brownish/red copper color

S: Caramel and molasses. Almost like a fruitcake. Ripe bananas.

T: The molasses and wood age come through great. Taste like you're eating a piece of grandmas banana nut bread.

M: Very full mouth feel with just the right amount of carbonation.

O: Another solid seasonal from Founders. Never tasted a beer with these specific traits. Excellent. Plus, it helped me pick out a new nickname for the old lady.

Serving type: bottle

04-04-2014 15:26:55 | More by NuckleDragger
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reebtaerG

Maryland

4.36/5  rDev +8.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Had on tap at Fireworks Pizza

A-Brown appearance with a small tan head and light lacing.

S-Aroma of caramel, molasses, dark malts, chocolate, earthy hops, oak, dark fruit, toffee and licorice.

T-Similar flavor, rich and malty with medium sweetness and minimal to light bitterness.

M-Full body, slick and smooth with soft carbonation.

O-Pretty surprised, very enjoyable, great sipper.

Serving type: on-tap

04-02-2014 02:14:27 | More by reebtaerG
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itsscience

Florida

3.64/5  rDev -9.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Dark brown in appearance with some light getting in around the edges. Less than a finger of head even with a vigorous pour, and it fades rather quickly. The nose is rather imposing with molasses, sweet malt, burnt sugar, coconut, toasted oats, and oak. The same profile comes out in the taste along with some raisin and fruity esters. It's reminiscent of a Belgian dubbel but overly boozy. Not much of a hop presence here: this is all malt. Carbonation is low and the body is medium.

Serving type: bottle

03-27-2014 01:08:06 | More by itsscience
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BoldRulerVermont

Vermont

3.98/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Poured from the 12 oz bottle into a snifter.
Nice medium copper color, clear and with moderate head. Solid lacing.
Aromas are mild, sweet, some alcohol and decent malt backbone present.
Taste is nice. Definitely a good deal of molasses flavor but without being too sweet. Lots of good oak in here as well. Alcohol is there but much less than I was expecting.
My favorite part of the beer was the mouthfeel, a touch syrupy, a touch chewy. Perfect carbonation.
Overall, this was a much easier drinking beer than I was expecting! :)

Serving type: bottle

03-21-2014 12:12:31 | More by BoldRulerVermont
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CrazyDavros

Australia

4.15/5  rDev +3.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Pours dark copper with a large off-white head.
Nose shows vanilla oak notes, sweet rich molasses, chocolate malt, hazelnut and sweet caramel.
Similar woody and vanilla oak characters as flavours alongside some light roasted malt, booze and heaps of sweet syrupy malt.
Nice moderate carbonation and syrupy body.

Serving type: bottle

03-03-2014 03:42:52 | More by CrazyDavros
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deadchef

Michigan

4.49/5  rDev +12%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

poured into a snifter....

a: slightly hazy, couple floaters. almost non-existing head. quickly dispersing head. copper/red color.

s: beautiful caramel, spice, sweet, bourbon and oak.

t: sweet, cola, bourbon, shortbread wafer, alcohol heat, carbon.

m: thick, medium carbonation.

o: this beer is amazing. lands in the night cap category. high alcohol with tons of bourbon characteristics. would go great with a sweet dessert.

Serving type: bottle

03-02-2014 05:12:58 | More by deadchef
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Immortale25

North Carolina

4.23/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Had on-tap at Appalachian Vintner Asheville. Served in a tapered 12 oz glass.

A- Pours a somewhat murky dark amber color with a 1/8 inch head that doesn't retain very long before becoming a thin ring around the edge of the glass and a full sheet of sheer surface foam. Resilient lacing leaves a honeycomb pattern behind.

S- Notes of raisin, vanilla and a touch of wood with a nice toastiness. A bit of a booze fume.

T- First thing noticed is a subtle maple sweetness that works well with the toastiness of the malt. Alcohol is certainly present but not overbearing. Actually, everything is very well balanced as there's a mild hop bitterness.

M- Slightly sharp from the alcohol and a tad sticky. Medium-low carbonation and a body leaning toward the fuller side.

O- A very easy drinking high ABV old ale that has incredible balance but keeps me interested all the way to the last sip.

Serving type: on-tap

02-20-2014 19:44:34 | More by Immortale25
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brutusmuktuk

Michigan

4.33/5  rDev +8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours a murky copper color with a very weak head. Has a malty aroma, with light hints of fruit. Feels heavy like molasses, and has a lightly sweet molasses and malty flavor. There is a hint of bitterness at the end to offset the subtle sweetness. Very enjoyable, complex ale.

Serving type: bottle

02-19-2014 18:00:20 | More by brutusmuktuk
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CowsandBeer

Kansas

4.16/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

One of the first beers I put down in my cellar. 2012 bottle. Served chilled in a Blind Tiger Brewery snifter.

Appearance: Poured down the side produced a ring of white sudsy head that stuck around. Dark reddish brown body. Lots of little sediment flakes could be seen floating around.

Aroma: Heavy sweet malts; boozy plums, dates, molasses and leather. Also a very nice butterscotch note.

Taste: Follows the nose. Lots of sweet malts; caramel, molasses, and the nice butterscotch. Boozy plums and floral alcohol. Also a surprising hop presence with a lingering alcohol bite.

Mouthfeel: Very warming. Has a low carbonation with and almost syrupy medium mouthfeel.

Overall: I opened this one a bit before the two year mark since I’ve heard it does not age very well. However, this is drinking quite fine at the moment and I think it could keep progressing. Lots of nice sweet maltyness, floral alcohol and a surprising hop bite. Recommend stock for your cellar.

Serving type: bottle

02-19-2014 05:31:32 | More by CowsandBeer
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chinchill

South Carolina

3.73/5  rDev -7%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

12 oz bottle with a bottled on date of Jan. 2013.
Pours hazy, orange-brown with a small, weak head.

Aroma: sweet and boozy with a clear trace of oak. hints of citrus and toffee.

Flavor: Mildly sweet; hints of over-ripe soft fruits and toffee; pretty good until the finish and aftertaste, then notably better.

Feel: medium-full body; slightly harsh (ABV); warming.

O: interesting strong ale.

Serving type: bottle

02-18-2014 02:23:52 | More by chinchill
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tmm313

Georgia

4.73/5  rDev +18%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

Bottled: 2/15/13
Drank: 2/11/14

A- Dark reddish, brownish amber in the glass. Poured a gorgeous creamy 2 finger head. Awesome sticky lacing. Some floaties in their as well.

S- Extremely inviting. Rich caramel and molasses, raisins, woodsy oak, vanilla, bourbon, and a little bit of pine on the back end.

T- Very nice. Big caramel, molasses, and dark fruit up front, giving way to slight bourbon, oak, pine, a touch of vanilla, and earthy hop spice. Super subtle alcohol burn and citrus rind on the finish.

M- Lighter side of thick body. Creamy and smooth. Slightly drying with a very nice aftertaste.

O- Don't you just love it when you drink a beer not expecting to like it, but walk away with a new favorite? I. Loved. This. Beer. Super balance, huge decadent flavors, and awesome complexity. I will be buying a sixer as soon as humanly possible.

Serving type: bottle

02-12-2014 14:54:19 | More by tmm313
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CaptJackHarkness

New York

2.5/5  rDev -37.7%
look: 2 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 2

From twelve ounce bottle states bottled 04/13/12.

This beer is a New style for me and I was not sure what to expect. Also, from the date, perhaps too old old ale! That said,
Aroma was a boozy, sweet caramel. Poured headless , cloudy ruddy body. Holding to light shows floating particulates. Taste is alcoholic and bitter/acidic. Overall : Nasty!

Serving type: bottle

02-05-2014 05:21:40 | More by CaptJackHarkness
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Josh012012

Minnesota

4.38/5  rDev +9.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Must have drank hundreds of these. I Having said that, I feel these are best just above freezing and from the bottle. Sorry.

For me the drinkability of this old ale is what sets it apart from the crowd. These go down way too easy for me. I am usually a stout sipper but sometimes I just want to get drunk. When I am in that kind of mood this is my go to beer. Served just above freezing, these provide me with a great tasting malty beer that gets the job done quick. For me the best tasting most complex beer I can drink in large quantities.

Serving type: bottle

02-03-2014 23:38:29 | More by Josh012012
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heygeebee

Australia

3.7/5  rDev -7.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Not too sure how many Old Ales I have had...

Looks good, deep copper body, one finger head... Immediately into sweet aromas and taste, almost like a cross between a Quad and an English strong ale. Lots of brown sugar and malts and yes molasses. Really quite sweet overall. The alcohol comes thru... Was not aware of the high ABV but on drinking port notes are evident, as is alcohol burn. Unwelcome slightly astringent note on back palate.

Odd in some ways, tho, almost like a base strong beer had a ton of sugar added. Very late.

One to cellar methinks.

Serving type: bottle

01-25-2014 10:46:19 | More by heygeebee
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KajII

North Carolina

3.78/5  rDev -5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.75

[Suggested Glassware: Snifter]

The pour was a murky caramel brown with a slight reddish hue and an average (1-2 fingers) off white creamy head that was mostly lasting, reducing to a puddled film and medium collar with excellent sheets of sticky lacing.

The aroma was of a toasted biscuit malt and a sweet doughy yeast with notes of caramel, toffee, vanilla, dark fruit (raisons & cherries), oak cask and a little above mild scent of alcohol.

The taste was malty sweet with a decent touch of caramel and toffee early on, and then progressed with a mild yeast presence, a light fruitiness, a hint of oak and had a sweet alcohol finish. The flavor lasted an average duration after the swallow, with the malty sweetness and a slight alcohol warming left to linger on the taste buds a bit longer.

Mouthfeel was medium in body and syrupy in texture with a nice soft carbonation.

Overall what is there to be said but 'This brewer does it again". This is a really good brew, with a great balance and awesome taste...

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Serving type: bottle

01-23-2014 19:02:41 | More by KajII
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Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale) from Founders Brewing Company
90 out of 100 based on 2,896 ratings.