Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale) - Founders Brewing Company

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Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)

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Ratings: 3,752
Reviews: 1,111
rAvg: 4.02
pDev: 10.7%
Wants: 144
Gots: 714 | FT: 45
Brewed by:
Founders Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Old Ale |  9.80% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
50 IBU
Old ale brewed with molasses and oak-aged.

(Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 08-31-2005)
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1/5  rDev -75.1%

Photo of ultralarry2006
1.18/5  rDev -70.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 1 | taste: 1 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 1

Poured from a 12 oz. bottle. Left a slight head that quickly dissappeared into just a ring at the edges. Body was medium brown.

Smell - bourbon, it actually smells like I've poured a glass of bourbon, not beer. It's really bad for me so far. Some diacetyl as well ( which I sort of expected, but not the bourbon ) .

Taste - bourbon, some diacetyl, more bourbon. Aftertaste of bourbon.

Mouthfeel - full, not smooth, low carbonation, alcohol astringency.

Drinkability - not at all. I do not like bourbon.

Photo of mattcrill
1.2/5  rDev -70.1%
look: 3 | smell: 1 | taste: 1 | feel: 2 | overall: 1

Stubby brown twist-off bottle. No useful label information.

Aroma: Bourbon, oak, and alcohol...this could be ugly for me.

Appearance: Cloudy brick red pour with a thin wispy white head. The head quickly fades to a perfect ring around the glass.

Flavor: Vanilla bean and oak. Gimme a break. No malts, hops, or anything that resembles a beer.

Mouthfeel: Medium bodied with light carbonation.

Overall impression: Drain pour. Glad I bought a single. Would someone please STOP the barrel-aging, over-oaked, over-bourboned silliness??? It's tired and it does nothing to showcase a brewer's talent or anything that fine beer ingredients can provide in terms of flavor. Avoid.

Photo of B967ierhunter177
1.35/5  rDev -66.4%
look: 2 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 1 | feel: 1 | overall: 1

This beer pours a very cloudy copper with no head or lace. The aroma is of grapefruit, caramel, and bread crust. The flavor leads with a bitter grapefruit smack, like an IPA, followed through with a cloying, sticky sweet caramel with a medicinal warmth in the finish. The mouthfeel is sticky and sickeningly sweet. Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale) is a disappointing beer, not recommended.

Photo of Phyl21ca
1.55/5  rDev -61.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 1 | overall: 1.5

Bottle: Poured a deep cloudy brown color ale with a small foamy head with small rings of lacing. Aroma is super sweet, almost disgustingly so with some notes of alcohol. Taste is a huge mess between some intense sweetness, oily texture with some cloying notes of alcohol. I couldn’t find anything close to old ale but more of an American barleywine with some unbalance feature. I usually love product from this brewery but this beer did not profit from barrel-aging.

Photo of Grant35
1.75/5  rDev -56.5%

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1.75/5  rDev -56.5%

Photo of Zonian1
2/5  rDev -50.2%

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2/5  rDev -50.2%

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2/5  rDev -50.2%

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2/5  rDev -50.2%

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2/5  rDev -50.2%

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2/5  rDev -50.2%

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2/5  rDev -50.2%

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2/5  rDev -50.2%

Photo of wardough
2.03/5  rDev -49.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 4 | overall: 1

As a fellow Michigander, I was disappointed by this beer. Founders makes some great beers, so this must be an anomaly. It poured a beautiful dark amber into my glass. It poured very dense, almost like syrup, which is very inviting. It foams up to 1 finger then dissipates down to a light, white lacing. Smells is of vanilla and raw coconut. The coconut flavor overwhelms the smell of the beer. Taste is a little better. Hops, then raw coconut and vanilla, followed by a heavy alcohol finish. Mouthfeel is heavy, but lightly carbonated. The coconut flavor of the beer was so strong that this beer is not drinkable. Perhaps this would be alot better if it were better balanced.

Photo of Arbitrator
2.1/5  rDev -47.8%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 1

Chilled bottle into a glass. An extra courtesy of busch03 (and a second from onix1agr). Thanks guys!

A: Pours a murky chestnut-amber body with no head whatsoever. A smattering of bubbles and a light collar around the brew. No lacing to speak of. Kind of disappointing , but I have had this experience with Founders a number of times...

S: Leans toward the sweet, malty side with a dark raisin and cherry character. Some molasses, toffee, slight wood, and booze.

T: Sweet caramel malt with a thick raisin, maple syrup, and molasses flavor behind it. Progresses into a slightly nutty toffee character with some wood and cherries. The finish is brown sugar with booze. It could use some balance. It began to get very syrupy and cloying after a while.

M: Full-bodied, with low carbonation that brings out the flavor -- good for the style. Alcohol is apparent in the taste and has a warming effect on the way down.

D: Tastes like diabetes. Disgustingly sweet, and a drain pour about halfway through -- and this is from someone who is generally to cheap to waste beer. Yecch.

Photo of bobhits
2.13/5  rDev -47%
look: 4.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 1.5

cloudy thick dark amber. LARGE pieces of debree. Thin off white head.

Strong alcohol and malt explosion in the nose.

One dimensional beer. Strong malty flavor, carmel, off tasting candy, some hops in there just barely. Barrel aging can be great, but this one looses flavor and lacks complexity.

The mouth needs more carbonation, and well the flavor just doesn't ask to be consumed. The alcohol kicks fairly hard and doesn't work well for me.

This beer just either needs age or just is a rare strike for founders. I think most beer lovers will enjoy this beer, but it's just not up to par.

Photo of mrasskicktastic
2.17/5  rDev -46%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 2.5

A - Pours an opaque dark sienna color with absolutely no head. If I really excite the beer - and I mean practically stick this sucker ion a paint shaker, then I get about a half finger of head. It will leave tiny specks of lacing on the glass.

S - Oak, butter, caramel malt, alcohol and vanilla - in that order.

T - A smokey sweet bourbon oak flavor meshed with a caramel malt. These have a lot of buttery diacetyl and a fair amount alcohol underneath.

M - Very thick, a little harsh and actually a little parching. (Can something be a little parching?) It has a buttery texture that coats my mouth with a film.

D - I'm not a fan, but it is something I can handle. It isn't a terribly unpleasant experience either. It just isn't for me. I won't have this again. The closest beer I can think to compare this to is Avery's Samael's Oak Aged Ale. This doesn't come close in pleasantness though, it lacks all the pleasant fruit flavors and has a shitload of butter. It also reminds me a bit of Weyerbacher's Prophecy, but not as offensive, at least in my opnion anyway. This is just way too buttery throughout. If you like drinking bourbon butter, then drink this. Otherwise avoid it.

Photo of ibbjamin
2.25/5  rDev -44%
look: 2 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Paid $3.49 for a 12oz bottle from Discount Liquor in Milwaukee, WI. I pour into a snifter to review.

A thick brownish orange elixir pours from the bottle. No head or carbonation.

Bourbon-like boozy nose with candied raisin, oak and caramel malt. Has an organic earthiness to it and even some slight butterscotch hints.

Taste is more reminiscent of a boozy barleywine than an old ale. A bit hot from the alcohol which is poorly hidden. Fermented dark fruits, bourbon, oak some caramel malt.

Almost no carbonation detected in the mouth. Medium-full body with an almost chewy texture and long finish.

Even taken as a boozy sipper, it really is not all that great. If I wanted to sip on booze, I'd go for some fine bourbon on the rocks, not a boozy old ale.

Photo of Azrael
2.25/5  rDev -44%

Photo of Michands
2.25/5  rDev -44%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

A- Common, I really never judge on appearance.

S- Negativity bitterness of oak flavor

T- Awry for old ale and oak aged. Too bland.

M- Nothing much exciting. Nearly none flavor except flavor of oak

O- Wouldn't recommend. So bland. Except high ABV which is benefit for NASCAR redneck fans.

Photo of RobertColianni
2.25/5  rDev -44%

Photo of Nichols33
2.25/5  rDev -44%

Photo of heddar33
2.5/5  rDev -37.8%

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Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale) from Founders Brewing Company
90 out of 100 based on 3,752 ratings.