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Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale) - Founders Brewing Company

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Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)

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Ratings: 3,290
Reviews: 1,083
rAvg: 4.01
pDev: 10.97%
Wants: 123
Gots: 584 | FT: 42
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Founders Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Old Ale |  9.80% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
50 IBU
Old ale brewed with molasses and oak-aged.

(Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 08-31-2005)
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Photo of dtivp


3.88/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured a dark amber color with a very slim off white head which disappeared very quickly.

Sweet malty aroma with molasses and oak.

Big roasted malt taste , with vanilla and dark fruit. Slight taste of alcohol. As the beer warmed the sweeter dark fruit taste became more prevalent.

Medium body beer with slight carbonation. Alcohol isn't over powering , however, if you didn't sip the first one, you should consider sipping the second. A nice ale by Founders

Serving type: bottle

04-12-2010 03:03:21 | More by dtivp
Photo of kzoobrew


3.88/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours ruby color with a creamy off white head. Decent retention with some clingy lacing.

Sweet aroma overall. Dark fruit and molasses are picked up easily up front. Oak aged also has left its mark on the smell.

Big malt up front. Sweet thick maltiness you can expect from an old ale. Warming alcohol is noticeable but not overly done. There is an earthiness imparted from the oak. Dark fruit flavors are there but not as dominate as the smell would suggest.

Medium bodied and low carbonation. Does drink smooth but is definitely a sipper.

Very enjoyable to brew to enjoy over time. Not one to go back to after finishing the first.

Serving type: bottle

11-07-2008 23:41:37 | More by kzoobrew
Photo of Meerkey


3.88/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Very thin head. Clouded dark copper.

S: Soy sauce. Brown sugar. Malts. Grains, yeast. A little fruit - dried apricots. Some alcohol.

T: Kind of weird. Malty and sweet. Fruit comes out with some tartness and then an alcoholic bite. Some soy sauce again. Yeast, a little sour. Bitter and dry at end. Can't quite decide how I feel about it.

M: Smooth, tingly. Strong and full flavor.

O: Pretty weird, but I think I like it. Takes a little while to get used to.

Serving type: bottle

07-19-2011 03:32:02 | More by Meerkey
Photo of schwemjw


3.89/5  rDev -3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

A: dark copper, brownish with no head to speak of, a thin lacing around the glass.
S: Molassis, sweet malt and a touch of oak. A tart cherry in the finish. good stuff.
T: Dark molassis, sweet caramel, oak in the middle with a sticky buttery brown sugar and cherry finish. A little cinnamon in there as well.
M:Meduim to full bodied, like a syrup at times.
O: Wonderful lingering finish leaves me coming back for more. The oak and molassis really shine! /88

Serving type: bottle

05-21-2013 20:58:21 | More by schwemjw
Photo of Chasmill70


3.89/5  rDev -3%
look: 4.75 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

a - a beautiful beer. Head dissipates rapidly, probably because of the alcohol content.

s - the most disappointing part of the beer. Very light malty aroma or oak character here. Does have the characteristic treacle aroma, but I would have liked more complexity.

t - delicious, with dark fruit, malt and some oak character in the finish. The hot alcohol flavor and hop bite in the finish detract from the enjoying of the flavor, however.

m - velvety and smooth.

o - another fine offering from Founders! I'm hoping aging will mellow the hot alcohol flavors...they definitely have a "headache" flavor. I hope it relaxes into the body in a few months.

Serving type: bottle

04-16-2014 02:16:37 | More by Chasmill70
Photo of hops202

District of Columbia

3.89/5  rDev -3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

2014 vintage Bottle poured into a game of thrones snifter.

A - ruby with hints of gold and bronze.

S - certainly malt and yeast present. Some sort of fruit - possibly apricot and oak from the barrels are present.

T - vanilla and slight caramel in there. Flavors of oak as well mixed in with the sweetness. Bitterness at the end to balance everything out well.

M - medium carb with full body.

O - a decent showing here by the (OLD) curmudgeon. May he age with the best of them.

Serving type: bottle

05-07-2014 22:52:20 | More by hops202
Photo of warriorsoul


3.9/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Huge thanks to malty for this one...
Cloudy cherry rust color with less than 1/4 finger of off-white head...disappears before the pour is finished and leaves some thin, sporadic lacing.
Vanilla oak scent with a faint candied fruit finish...a bit off when served even slightly chilled, but real attractive at room temp.
Rum soaked raisins up front with quite a fruity hop profile bittering up the finish...rock candy comes to mind and an earthy aftertaste.
A bit too sweet up front for my liking, but as it warms, it becomes so much more balanced. Alcohol is well hidden...although the rum flavor really makes you think that what you are drinking is much stronger than it is...I like that.
Mouthfeel is nice and the carbonation is where I like it.
This would be a one and done for me...would be much more enjoyable in the colder months, but I had to try it fresh. Hopefully more will make its way into my possession to see how it changes in six months.
Not my favorite Founders brew...still a nice offering.

Serving type: bottle

05-23-2006 00:22:53 | More by warriorsoul
Photo of beerthulhu

New Jersey

3.9/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: Poured a dark Brazilian cherry with a non-developing head and a good haziness of micro particles that drifted lazily about within the drink. Effervesce was limited to one or two bubbles visible at any given moment that rose at a fairly rapid rate to the surface. The coloring was perhaps the most intriguing here.

S: The aroma was quite odd and hard to identify at first. A fuzzy navel was the first to come to mind (a mixture of orange juice and vodka). Along came a fresh fruitiness of apricots, honey, and a sweet sugary grainy nature that was followed by a dry burbon backing that was light to medium in strength. Overall a quite odd, but intriguing aroma keeps you guessing and sniffing for more.

T: The flavor starts out with sweet sugary caramel and dry burbon. There is a fruity booziness at the very beginning of oranges and apricots that is sweet and brief before giving way to a dry caramel and dry burbon alcohol booziness that lingers on well after the swallow (4-5 seconds) creating a good warmth of sweet, boozy dry nature.

M: medium full, very slick and smooth texture wise with an incredibly light, almost absent carbonation presence makes this slide around the tongue with ease.

D: good, a bit boozy and dry drinking much bigger then its advertised 9.8% abv. Your not gonna be drinking to many of these at one time, best sampled by itself in a chalice or goblet at a moderately warm temp (55-60F) on a chilly winter night.

Serving type: bottle

10-22-2009 22:23:45 | More by beerthulhu
Photo of philbe311


3.9/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A - A very slight creamy tan head rises post pour and fades away almost immediately leaving an extremely thin veil of lace and a collar of bubbles around the edge of the glass... A murky medium brown color with hints of aubergine... A couple of very small, very slow paced carbonation bubbles can be seen rising towards the top of the glass... Some minor lacing clings to the side of the snifter...

S - Sweet red grapes... Caramel... Brown Sugars... Golden raisins... Fig... Rum...

T - The sweetness eluded to by the nose continues on the palette... Rum soaked raisins... Fig... Butterscotch... Honey... Raisins... Sweet grapes... A very minor medicinal presence...

M - Medium to full bodied... Syrupy and sticky... A tad chewy... Just a very very slight carbonation on the tongue... A slight alcoholic warmth...

D - This beer is slightly over the top in terms of sweetness... Oddly though that only seems to add character of this brew... Founders makes one brew after another that push boundaries and this is not exception...

Serving type: bottle

12-09-2009 03:06:32 | More by philbe311
Photo of markmiller

New York

3.9/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured bottle into a snifter.

Dark rusty color and a full head that is creamy off white like french vanilla milkshake. As it drinks, it leaves excellent lacing on my glass.

Nose is a bit of raisins and malt, not much there.

Taste is mellow and caramel sweet, strong, warming. A bit of vanilla and bitterness.

Mouthfeel is sticky and full. A touch of dryness with the bitter finish.

I enjoy this beer quite a bit. To me it's like a relaxing beer to be sipped and enjoyed to unwind.

Serving type: bottle

06-15-2012 01:56:36 | More by markmiller
Photo of rlee1390


3.9/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

The bottle I had was a year old

A-Cloudy amber, some carbonation, lots of sediment, two finger head

S-Lots of malt, some pine and dirt, molasses is still there.

T-Malt bomb primarily, grassy notes, some wheat and orange, malasses once again. Rather sweet.

M-Not much carbonation, smooth, medium bodied.

O-At a year old it seems to be past its prime, lots of malt and not much else

Serving type: bottle

04-22-2012 16:55:51 | More by rlee1390
Photo of mjaskula

New York

3.9/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Served in a pint glass. Pours dark copper with a bunch of suspended sediment. The thin off white head faded fast and only leaves a tiny bit of lacing.

The aroma is sweet with some floral hops and a bit of smokiness. Flavor is smooth and complex, sweet and malty with some nuttiness. Hop flavor is mild, floral and piney. Malt flavor has carmel and toffee. Alcohol is apparent.

Mouthfeel is a bit viscous, but i think that's expected. Overall I really like this beer, and wouldn't mind drinking a couple of these.

Serving type: bottle

10-09-2010 04:30:35 | More by mjaskula
Photo of RollBounce

New York

3.9/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 4.75

bored with very little leasing slightly amber and cloudy notes smell is lately muted in glass with hints of cinnamon brown sugar and bread some tropical notes are found. Overall it is a white tropical compared to the aged old curmudgeon that I sat on for 2 years ahead papaya and mango now it's definitely better in the bottle but worth a try.

Serving type: on-tap

04-05-2014 15:56:29 | More by RollBounce
Photo of TheHoppiest


3.9/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a squat Founders 12 oz bottle into an oversized snifter glass.

Pours a rich copper color, with a thin skin of head that quickly dissipates to a ring of head clinging to the glass.

Has a buttery, bready smell. There are notes of caramel, toffee, and malt.

Buttery in taste and texture, this is a rich beer. Toffee, alcohol, and straw combine for a taste that is "old", yet deeply complex. This is definitely a "fork and knife" beer.

This has a thick mouthfeel that adds to its depth in character.

Definitely a sipper, I don't think I could have two of these in a week, let alone in one night. However, it is enjoyable if you're in the mood for a hearty brew.

Serving type: bottle

08-01-2010 21:00:40 | More by TheHoppiest
Photo of ccm414


3.9/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured from a 12oz bottle...

A- Pours with little to no head. Very cloudy with much sediment. Almost a brown/amber color.

S- Caramel is the first scent that comes across. Some dried fruits are also noticeable. I get some light peanut smells, as well.

T- Taste much molasses and caramel malts. I also get MUCH black cherry and a lot of 'brandy-like' flavors. A slight bitter finish, but not much on the back end besides the light alcohol warmth.

M- A medium bodied brew with very little carbonation. Dry on the palate with warming from the alcohol.

D- Not very drinkable, definitely a slow drinker with this one, especially at the 9.8%abv. This would definitely go well on a cold night at a fire.


Serving type: bottle

04-09-2011 00:15:25 | More by ccm414
Photo of Pellinore1


3.9/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours deep, cloudy amber, producing minimal head, which quickly fades to some light lacing.

The aroma is all malt, and makes me think of bread, fruit, and honey.

I taste all of the sweet malt foretold by the smell. Fruit, caramel, and biscuits are all here, followed by just a touch of alcohol warmth.

This beer is thick and smooth, with a bit of carbonation to lighten things up. Reasonably drinkable, considering the ABV, but I wouldn't want to have too many.

Serving type: bottle

01-04-2011 04:16:21 | More by Pellinore1
Photo of sjverla


3.9/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Nose: Molasses, caramel and alcohol. Definitely raisins. Very faint whiff of banana bread. Deep and rich, balanced by mild solvency.

Appearance: Beautiful hazy copper, kicked up about a half-inch of head that settled fast. Appears to hold the sides well.

Taste: Raisin heavy. Mellow caramel and toffee. Alcohol spice. Chewey and rich witha hot finish. Very desserty and festive tasting.

Overall: A heart, uncompromising brew. Definitely looking forward to aging it a bit.

Serving type: bottle

05-26-2012 01:52:47 | More by sjverla
Photo of TreyIsWilson


3.9/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Pours a ruby red with a one-finger white head. The head dissapates leaving sticky lacing.

S - Sweet caramel, dark fruits, and noticeable alcohol.

T - Sweet caramel malts, dark fruits - raisins & plums, and burnt sugar. The hops are present in the finish giving a lingering bitterness.

M - Medium bodied with low carbonation. Sticky mouthfeel. Boozy finish.

O - This is a nice beer. Definetly a slow sipper. Another winner from Founders.

Serving type: bottle

06-05-2013 04:10:34 | More by TreyIsWilson
Photo of cvstrickland

North Carolina

3.9/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A 12-ounce bottle served cellar-cool, poured into a small tulip glass yields a dark copper body capped with a half-finger-deep layer of creamy foam a shade darker than 'ivory'. The head recedes rather quickly into a medium-thick collar that leaves wispy lacing on the glass.

The smell is pretty mild overall, but there is a bit of cocoa-dusted caramel and toasty malt to keep me interested. A whiff of tangy unsulphured molasses emerges late in the drink

The taste is savory and toffee-sweet with a sizzle of cocoa bitterness and caramel-infused black coffee. Waves of dark brown sugar interspersed with with rich dark chocolate mostly cover a tangible alcohol note that comes off fresh, vanilla-like, and cleansing.

The drink is full-bodied with a tingle of carbonation and silky feel. Very good drinkability for style.

Serving type: bottle

11-28-2008 02:27:42 | More by cvstrickland
Photo of jdubjacket


3.9/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured one of these into a Stone Barleywine glass.

Pours a copper color with ruby hues. No head to speak of and no lacing.

Smell is sweet alcohol, some brown sugar, and dark fruits.

Taste is dark fruits - raisins and prunes namely, sweet brown sugar, and sweet alcohol. Alcohol is little prominent, but it doesn't detract from the beer.

Overall, a good beer. Tough to drink more than one due to the ABV, but a solid brew.

Serving type: bottle

08-25-2009 01:00:37 | More by jdubjacket
Photo of pzrhsau

District of Columbia

3.9/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Nice burgundy brownish red color with a decent head on it.
S: Slight alcohol notes with nice woody aromas and a slight sour sweetness.
T: This beer puts me in the feel of dark fruit (plums raisins etc) while maintaining a roastiness from the malt with some slight hoppiness.
M/O: Crisp and drinkable with some very good weight from the alcohol. Very good strong beer.

Serving type: bottle

05-28-2011 03:36:03 | More by pzrhsau
Photo of expatsteve


3.9/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: Murky red brown color. Pours a 1/2 inch head with heavy cover and lacing. Low/medium viscosity.

Aroma: Smells like a fresh loaf of whole wheat bread, with toffee, raisins and a hint of booze. Some nice chocolate and cocoa developments as it warms.

Taste: Smooth chocolate, cocoa and honey, with a nice hops/booze finish. A little plum following an upfront breadiness. Nice raisins in the finish. Nice balance complements grainy front and middle palates. A little pine and juniper in the finish.

Mouthfeel: Low carbonation makes for a smooth, creamy mouthfeel that balances the flavors of the beer. Nice bitterness in the aftertaste

Drinkability: Nice, rich and boozy, with great malts and a nice biting finish. Definitely a beer that I'll come back to, particularly as the weather turns colder.

Serving type: bottle

08-02-2006 17:36:35 | More by expatsteve
Photo of IronCitySteve


3.9/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: Pours a hazy orange amber color with a small off white foam head. There is some spotty lacing.

S: Lots of sweet malts, caramel, brown sugar, molasses, alcohol and oak. Really becomes more apparent as it warms up a bit.

T: Not as sweet as I expected, no complaints about that. A nice blend of malty sweetness and the oak. The oak rounds off the sweetness which makes this quite enjoyable.

M: Slick and creamy. Nice medium body.

D: A higher ABV makes this a sipper by the fire. A very well put together Old Ale.

Serving type: bottle

01-11-2011 18:36:15 | More by IronCitySteve
Photo of RblWthACoz


3.9/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a quite foggy rubyhued amber with a thick creme head. Nose is minimal with caramel and dark fruits and a malty overall tone. Slight bit of booze. Flavor carries a kick of liquid aspects (boozy burn) with an earthy tone. Dark fruits. Sweet tone. Feel is thicker on liquid and low on carbonation. For an old ale, this seems a bit...young. It's nice, but I think 2-3 more yearsmight do it justice.

Thanks to spointon for this one!

Serving type: bottle

11-06-2008 07:01:48 | More by RblWthACoz
Photo of roadhouse


3.9/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 12 oz. bottle into a snifter.

Appears a brownish red color with a quarter to half inch off-white head that sinks to a thin skim rather quickly.

Aroma sweet and malty. Lots of caramel and toffee with some raisin and fig character. Perhaps a bit of cherry and a light alcohol.

Taste is initially sweet, but not so much as the aroma would suggest, with the dark fruit character sticking out then it becomes a bit more earthy with a slight bitterness and spiciness that linger on into the finish.

Mouthfeel is medium-full and very soft on the palate. It would be a bit higher but it kind of leaves a weird slick feeling on the palate after the swallow.

Quite an interesting brew and a bit better than the Bell's Third Coast Old Ale that I tried. I would like to get another bottle of this to age alongside my Third Coast and give both another try in a couple months or so.

Serving type: bottle

10-17-2008 19:45:12 | More by roadhouse
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90 out of 100 based on 3,290 ratings.