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Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale) - Founders Brewing Company

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Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)

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3,836 Ratings
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Ratings: 3,836
Reviews: 1,129
rAvg: 4.02
pDev: 10.7%
Wants: 152
Gots: 750 | FT: 48
Brewed by:
Founders Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Old Ale |  9.80% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 08-31-2005

Old ale brewed with molasses and oak-aged.

50 IBU
Beer: Ratings & Reviews
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Ratings: 3,836 | Reviews: 1,129 | Display Reviews Only:
Photo of steve8robin
3.72/5  rDev -7.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Tried this at a tasting before and was not too crazy about it. Decided to get a bottle and do an official review. 12oz bottle...

A: Beautiful deep murky copper with a small off white head that fades slowly. Good.

S: Smells like a decent old ale. Sweet sugary malts upfront blended with hints of bready raisin, cherry, and banana. Alcohol bite on the backend. Very Good.

T: Takes a strange turn here. Starts with a very dry metallic taste followed by hints of sugary malt and some dark fruit. Ok.

M: Does not leave a whole lot on the palate. What it does leave is good. Medium body. Good.

D: Once you get past the interesting metallic taste, it goes down good.

All in all, this brew definitely followed suit with the first time I tried it. Just ok, not much special in this one. Not worth hunting and do not make this a priority to try if you have access.

Photo of SPLITGRIN
3.68/5  rDev -8.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours beautiful with an inch and a half of light tan head with foamy bubbles and nice retention. Body is a ruby brown mix that beckons to be drank. Nose has a nice combination of toasted almonds, rum, and dark fruits equaling a very robust feel. Enters the mouth with a resin like nutty oak character. Dark ripe fruits appear on the back of the tongue. Slight spicyness sparkles on the tailend of the palate. A rich spicey thick mouthfeel is the result. Sweetness is all over this beer and it is very bold with a smokey feel. Alchol is well hidden but the belly tells you it is there. Drinkability is decent.

Photo of aforbes10
4.35/5  rDev +8.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

brown and thick-looking. small head that receeds to just a coating of small bubbles. looks like a glass of watered down maple syrup. sweet odor with hints of chocolate bars, ginger, pine, toffee, oak, ethanol and dates. Very delicious taste. sweetness is the first flavor along with kind of a sharp alcohol bite, but this quickly mellows to a fantastic mix of chocolate, cherries, oak, dates and a fudgey/caramelly blend. Extremely smooth mouthfeel. Way to go again, Founder's. Im looking forward to my first breakfast stout and my second kentucky breakfast, both of which are burning holes in my DBF.

Photo of browniewithnuts
4/5  rDev -0.5%

Photo of BlissJunkie
4/5  rDev -0.5%

Photo of M1A2
4.25/5  rDev +5.7%

Photo of JimGlonke
4/5  rDev -0.5%

Photo of sbricker
4/5  rDev -0.5%

Photo of baklo
4.5/5  rDev +11.9%

Photo of Bunuelian
4.25/5  rDev +5.7%

Photo of DavidHume
4.25/5  rDev +5.7%

Photo of soupyman10
4.2/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

UPDATE - 11/02/08: Threw this one under my bed (I use complex ageing systems) and left it for six months. Tried it again and WOW. Totally different flavor than when I had it fresh. Huge whiskey flavors and aromas flying all over the place. Really an incredible drink. Still crazy sweet, but no alcohol at all, just that sort of musky aroma the burbon gives off. I'd like to try cellaring more of these to see what happens...

Pours a nice amber brown color with a finger of slightly off-white head that dissolves to a fine film fairly fast. Solid looking, although the lacing is fairly non-existent. Nose is strong, full of toffee and caramel. Some sweet dried fruit in there too, and maybe a touch of spicy hoppy alcohol. Flavor is spicy and acidic. Quite vinous, with raisins and a sort of acidic aftertaste. Again, principally strong toffee malt but with a nice fruity background as well. A highly sweet beer, and fairly alcoholic (the 9.3% is fairly well hidden in the fruit and spiciness though). Body is medium with very mild, smooth carbonation, as is fairly standard for the style (and for a beer this high in alcohol). Overall, a very tasty one, although the ABV might keep me from having more than one or two. A very good dessert beer. I'm going to try cellaring one and see if the spiciness mellows at all.

Photo of Beer21
4/5  rDev -0.5%

Photo of tclipse
3.78/5  rDev -6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of Hallertau
4.25/5  rDev +5.7%

Photo of deereless
4.05/5  rDev +0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A: The color of a coppery peach juice, lots of floating particles, minimal head - 4.00, S: Lots of heavy and ripe fruits, smell of prune juice, aromatically sweet from a solid malt base but with some noticeable earthy to herbal hops - 4.25, T: Hearty malt base coupled with a decent hop bite, though you sense the alcohol it is very nicely veiled, tastes like a rum soaked fruitcake that is heavy on the raisins - 4.25, M: Quite creamy and medium bodied - 4.50, D: I shouldn't be surprised given the other Founder's beers I've sampled - but this is a nicely crafted beer and one I would drink again - 4.00

Photo of jtierney89
3.65/5  rDev -9.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a very hazy amber brown color with a thin film of off white head. Glows orange against the light. Strawberry jam and chocolate covered raisins on the nose. Dark fruits and caramel sweetness. Lots of carbonation for an old ale. Some burnt roasted malts come through on the back end which hides the alcohol rather well. Despite the taste being hidden alcohol coats the throat.

Sticky caramel covered fruit like sweetness up front with plums, figs, and dark berries. Carbonation makes the body feel thinner however the stability of the flavors through all the effervescence is impressive. Tootsie roll like chocolatiness comes through somewhere in the middle. Flavors blend well together but have a kind of order to them as well. The body thins out slightly near the finish (not that it's a thin body in anyway) which takes away from the beer slightly.

Some of the burnt qualities dont blend as well with the beers sweet character and some of the fruit and chocolate flavors are slightly offset of one another. Very good beer but could use some improvements. It wants to have big roasted qualities and big fruity characteristics but it's torn between choosing one side or the other leaving for a slightly confused beer.

This leaves for very good balance however.

Still another swell drink from founders though

Photo of pjkelley82
3.87/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Have had this beer a few times and now it so happens I'm drinking one and seen I haven't reviewed it....

12oz 2014 bottle into snifter.

Pours a copper ruby color, almost dark amber or a honey chestnut. Thick one and a half inch antique white colored head that looked light a pillow-y. Left a thin ring throughout with a thin skin. Decent lacing and a wee bit of legs pops out.

Smell is malt and stoned fruit, dark fruit, oak and caramel.

Taste follows the nose with a super nice touch on the oak with a whiskey type alcohol touch that just makes this beer standout.

Full bodied and heavy, slightly creamy, semi sticky with a delicious drying touch at the end that makes you want more.

Overall a solid Old Ale. Are there better? To me, yes but for something that's available as this and with its own distinct touch to it I could argue dollar for dollar this is it. Founders is a great brewery who makes above average beers. Some world class but almost all of them are solid within its category. This is one of them.

Photo of KeefD
4.37/5  rDev +8.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Doing a side by side with Bell's Third Coast Ale. This one was up first.

Poured into a snifter a dark orange color, bordering on rust, with no foam despite a hard pour and no lacing. Sediment was left in the bottle. Nice deep aroma of caramel, ripe fruits, and light booziness. Flavor is a nice mixture of toffee and caramel with only lightest bit of hop bitterness on the finish. Very sweet, brown sugary, hints of licorice, lightly spicy. Caramel apple is a good comparison. Mouthfeel is slick and smooth, easy to drink, alcohol is well hidden for such a high ABV, but a slight warming can be felt as it warms up. Caramely delicious brew. I really enjoyed this one.

Photo of silentjay
3.83/5  rDev -4.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

a bit lighter than i expected with a nice sized light tan head made up of large bubbles that laces well.

rather light aroma of raisins, some vanilla and oakiness, toffee, and caramel.

flavor starts with raisins, dark fruits, a bit of a metallic sensation, but is smoothed out a subtle oakiness with some smooth caramel sweetness that gives way to a slight alcohol heat on the finish.

a bit thin with very little carbonation.

I thought it would be a bit stronger in aroma and flavor with a thicker feel, but its still tasty.

Photo of Sazz9
4.25/5  rDev +5.7%

Photo of bort11
4.02/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

12 oz bottle poured into a tulip glass. Slow to activate off white head. Good head retention but no lacing. Color is a dark yet clear red amber.

Smell has strong vanilla bean and oak sweetness. Taste has a mild bitter chocolate and cardamom spice. Sweet herbal spices mulled. A little hint or orange rind.

Mouthfeel is slick and a little sticky. While individual characters are nice, as a whole it wore out it's welcome a bit. Not bad, but not one I will go back to.

Blipped "Curmudgeon" by Nirvana

Photo of bmjivi221
4.5/5  rDev +11.9%

Photo of zoso1967
4.22/5  rDev +5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Thanks to TCgoalie for picking this one up for me. It had a screw-top and was bottled on 2/24/09.

Pours a gorgeous shade of dark orange amber. There was pretty much no head on this at all, but the slight ring of foam left on the glass leaves a very precise high water mark, like a ring around a bathtub. This makes me giggle. The aroma is very sweet with notes of caramel, golden raisins and sweet bread. There is also a bit of earthiness to it, but it's mostly just malt that I am picking up. The flavor is malty and wonderful. Plenty of caramel, brown sugar and toffee mix with a sharp hint of alcohol that works to further enhance the flavor. Also in the mix are raisins, sugary orange peel, some peppery earthiness and touch of honey. There seems to be just enough bitterness in this beer to keep it from being too malty. The mouthfeel is pretty damn impressive. It is not quite as full as one might expect, but also far from too thin. The finish a mile long, but not too sticky. A beer to savor, but a beer I would love to savor again. I am pretty sure my friend didn't purposely pick out an older bottle, but I am glad he did. I will have to seek out a fresher one for comparison.

Photo of Iamjeff6
4/5  rDev -0.5%

Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale) from Founders Brewing Company
90 out of 100 based on 3,836 ratings.