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Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale) - Founders Brewing Company

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Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)

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Ratings: 3,702
Reviews: 1,110
rAvg: 4.02
pDev: 10.95%
Wants: 142
Gots: 708 | FT: 46
Brewed by:
Founders Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Old Ale |  9.80% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
50 IBU
Old ale brewed with molasses and oak-aged.

(Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 08-31-2005)
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3.5/5  rDev -12.9%

SpasmWaiter, Oct 25, 2014
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4/5  rDev -0.5%

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3.5/5  rDev -12.9%

ChrisPro, Dec 10, 2011
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4.75/5  rDev +18.2%

HamGlade10, May 13, 2014
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4/5  rDev -0.5%

teamwiggum, Apr 19, 2014
Photo of ksimons
4.33/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A-pours an amber color with almost no head. Visible carbonation bubbles

S-sweet and malty. Smells of vanilla and something sort of earthy, maybe the oak

T-very similar to the smell, sweet and full of malt. As Founder's says an insane focus on the malt, which is very true! Towards the middle/end you taste a very light bitter hops which helps even it out very nicely.

M-medium to full body, minimal carbonation, very smooth, thick, and dry

D-very good Old Ale, I would get it again. Not sure I could have more than one at a time, but it is great for what it is

ksimons, May 30, 2010
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2/5  rDev -50.2%

Zonian1, Oct 08, 2012
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4.25/5  rDev +5.7%

Agentveba, Sep 12, 2013
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3.75/5  rDev -6.7%

Ralphs66, Apr 17, 2013
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3.5/5  rDev -12.9%

Lanstrum, Jun 14, 2013
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3.75/5  rDev -6.7%

curlybird, Jul 21, 2014
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3.75/5  rDev -6.7%

stevec32, May 10, 2013
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3/5  rDev -25.4%

abcdefghijkyle, Oct 24, 2012
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4/5  rDev -0.5%

Troville1990, Apr 18, 2014
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4/5  rDev -0.5%

dalepryor, Dec 15, 2013
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3/5  rDev -25.4%

Stevie_Janowski, Dec 09, 2012
Photo of Pahn
4/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz bottle into Duvel tulip. Bottled on ??/09/11 (ink rubbed off the month, but I'm guessing it's April).

Appearance: Free pour yields a one inch, frothy, bonewhite head that dissipates steadily leaving a few tight lines of lacing. Pours a hazy orange and leaves fizzy lacing walls that disappear with time.

Smell: At first, oak, and some BBQ-ish aromas. Quickly moves to more cakelike smells, brown sugar, fig, raisin. Very malty nose. Smells rich but not overly sweet.

Taste: Follows the nose, smooth cake and tobacco with a large oak influence. Mellow, sugary finish that lasts a long time. Some raisiny dark fruit highlights.

Hops definitely doing some work up front, adding spicy and foresty notes to the smooth and dominant cake and oak. Bitterness here is welcome to cut the richness, but I think the hop flavor goes a little overboard and takes away from the malty goodness. I'm guessing I would prefer this beer with at least a year of age on it. Lots of malt depth this fresh though.

The vanilla and coconut flavors imparted by the oak are just strong enough, and blend seamlessly with the myriad malt notes. Lots of distinct flavors pop up; a slight maple impression, milk chocolate, dark chocolate. While the overall flavor is very complex, it's not necessarily the case that every sip is full-flavored or particularly deep.

Despite two actual complaints (hops good but in the way, complexity not really manifesting as deep, unified flavor), this is still a clear 4.0 taste (if not for those complaints, it would be pushing 4.5~5.0). Great malty old ale.

Mouthfeel: Medium bodied, smooth, creamy, with mild carbonation. Appropriate for the decadent flavors. Finishes slightly dry... would work great with more tobacco flavor, but it's okay with this beer's pastry-forwardness.

Overall: Solid old ale. While this could definitely use some age, I could happily drink this often as is. It doesn't quite have the character of Great Divide's Hibernation Ale or Hair of the Dog's Adam, but it's high quality. Not a homerun, but another really good beer from Founders.

Pahn, May 31, 2011
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3.55/5  rDev -11.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours a cloudy reddish brown with a thin layer of off white head. The head quickly disappears to a ring of bubbles.

The aroma is ok. There's a bit of vanilla and an earthy tea like aroma. There's loads of caramel available too.

The taste is ok. There's some nice dark malts with a load of caramel and an earthy hay like element. There's a slight touch of vanilla.

Mouthfeel is medium bodied with a nice dose of fine carbonation.

Drinkability is moderate. The ABV is relatively high, but well incorporated and easily managed. The flavor profile is decent, although it's not the best old ale I've run into. A nice drinker though.

Goliath, Jan 01, 2010
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3.93/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

The beer poured a hazy dark red with a slightly off white dense, thick head with good retention.

The aroma was malty with hints of alcohol. The beer also gave off hint of sweetness, maybe some kind of fruit sugar and also some spices.

The taste has a heavy sweet malt flavor but was balanced well with hints of whiskey, which made me think that it may have been aged in barrels. It also gave off an astringent flavor, probably due to the high ABV.

The beer was rich, yet smooth, very creamy, nice bitter aftertaste, and easy to drink with a medium to heavy body. Not sure I would want to or could drink too many at a time, but probably could, but might be better as a dessert beer. Excellent beer, highly recommended.

PhillyStyle, Jan 12, 2009
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Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale) from Founders Brewing Company
90 out of 100 based on 3,702 ratings.