1. The wait is over! Download the BeerAdvocate app on iTunes or Google Play now.
  2. Get 12 issues / year of BeerAdvocate magazine for only $9.99!

Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale) - Founders Brewing Company

Not Rated.
Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)

Displayed for educational use only; do not reuse.
BA SCORE
90
outstanding

3,391 Ratings
THE BROS
-
no score

(send 'em beer!)
Ratings: 3,391
Reviews: 1,088
rAvg: 4.01
pDev: 10.97%
Wants: 128
Gots: 609 | FT: 44
Brewed by:
Founders Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Old Ale |  9.80% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
50 IBU
Old ale brewed with molasses and oak-aged.

(Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 08-31-2005)
Beer: Ratings & Reviews
Sort by:  Latest | High | Low | Top Raters
Ratings: 3,391 | Reviews: 1,088 | Display Reviews Only:
Photo of JohnQVD
JohnQVD

New York

4.01/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Light cranberry colored, with almost no head and some solids at the bottom of the glass. What head there is quickly dissipates leaving nothing behind on the glass. Smell is slightly sweet like maple syrup with a touch of chocolate. Feel is medium-heavy with medium-light carbonation. Taste is boozy brown sugar, with a bitter, cough syrup-like finish. Overall this is quite good, if slightly boozy.

Serving type: bottle

06-02-2012 17:25:16 | More by JohnQVD
Photo of baklo
baklo

North Carolina

4.5/5  rDev +12.2%

04-21-2014 10:50:53 | More by baklo
Photo of beveragecaptain
beveragecaptain

New Jersey

3.3/5  rDev -17.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12 ounce bottle. Old Curmudgeon pours out a hazy brown color topped with a medium sized head. The aroma is tropical fruits, dates, spices, and bourbon characteristics like oak, vanilla, and coconut. Sweet, malty flavor with lots of coconut and fruit. Finishes harsh and metallic. Perhaps this beer could use some aging to mellow it a bit. The flavor is spicier than I like, but it's still a good flavor. Mouthfeel is medium. Decent drinkability. This is an interesting beer, but with all the quality old ales and barleywines out there, there are better choices.

Serving type: bottle

07-09-2006 19:23:24 | More by beveragecaptain
Photo of Beer21
Beer21

Florida

4/5  rDev -0.2%

07-08-2014 20:40:35 | More by Beer21
Photo of fthegiants
fthegiants

California

4.25/5  rDev +6%

04-21-2014 23:11:45 | More by fthegiants
Photo of ypsifly
ypsifly

Michigan

4.68/5  rDev +16.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Undated 12oz stubby purchased at Merchant's in Dearborn and poured into a pint glass.

Dark crimson under two plus fingers of light tan. Has a falling effect much like Guinness. The head falls to a cm of foam in a couple minutes but it clings tenaciously to the glass and leaves a wispy sheet.

The nose has more wood than any beer I have ever sniffed. Fresh oak with some sweet malt and yeast aromas simillar to Anchor Old Foghorn. Some earth, spice and warmth from the abv in the background. Very interesting.

Full mouth that is a bit slick upfront but washes away clean.

Just like the nose, this has a strong wood flavor with caramel and spicy hops along for the ride. The alcohol comes across as a well integrated pepper yet it doesn't get hot. Some suggestion of scotch or maybe bourbon and a lingering wood and green hop finish. Unique and veryb tasty!

I could see this being a love it or hate it beer. I happen to love it and am glad I picked up a couple four packs.

Serving type: bottle

05-15-2006 04:36:50 | More by ypsifly
Photo of bluemoonswoon
bluemoonswoon

Illinois

4.35/5  rDev +8.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

12oz stubby brown bottle poured into an imperial pint glass

A: Would have poured a clear dark copper, but with the extra yeast poured into the class it takes on a nice hazy copper, like a really really high ABV hefeweizen. The beer is topped with a one and a half inch frothy white head but bubbles down to a tight, thin cap with nice creamy lacing that does not last as long as I initially hoped it would have. Just the slightest bit bland looking.

S: Strong and sweet, heavy cream, vanilla, all brought together by strong, oaky, notes. Mild bouron, but is really more on account of the vanilla in the beer than anything else.

T/MF: Very smooth, like silk in the mouth but with a subtle carbonation that gives this beer a nice, almost chewy character. Big, oaky, opening. Sweet dark fruits, cherry is the most dominate here, but even this flavor is rather subtle, as though it is wrapped in a blanket of vanilla ice cream. Understated hop bitterness and once again demonstrates Founders' dedication to creating a uniquely balanced beer.

D: Incredibly smooth and balanced, not too sweet, just the right amount of bitterness, makes for an incredibly drinkable beer. If it just looked a bit prettier this beer would score a 5 in this category, but appearance still counts for me when it comes to drinkability. Still a fantastically drinkable beer.

Serving type: bottle

10-15-2008 03:04:37 | More by bluemoonswoon
Photo of Quackus
Quackus

New York

4/5  rDev -0.2%

05-11-2012 17:33:06 | More by Quackus
Photo of mwar
mwar

Kentucky

4.5/5  rDev +12.2%

05-19-2013 13:48:06 | More by mwar
Photo of ilikebeer03
ilikebeer03

Texas

3.88/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

12 oz bottle poured into a snifter.

A: Pours a nice burnt orange / golden brown with about a finger of head. This recedes into a nice ring of foam around the edges with some lingering toward the center of the glass.

S: I get a dark fruits up front. Similar to the way a quad would smell. Also, some oak, and vanilla.

T: Tastes good. I get a slight oaky/vanilla. Again, some dark fruits with a malty / bread backbone. I also get some slight chocolate notes which become more apparent as the beer warms. Did not initially taste any alcohol, but again, as the beer warms, I very slightly feel the burn. A bit of dryness in the finish from the oak and the chocolate lingers. Raisins are present too. Though, not strongly; between low and medium.

M: Good mouth feel. Not overly carbonated. I am not overly familiar with the style, nor have I had many examples, but I like it. A slight dryness from the oak lingers.

O: This is a very good beer. I plan on drinking maybe one every 6 months to see how it changes. I don't know that it is worth the 12.99 I paid for the 4 pack.

Overall a delicious beer.

Serving type: bottle

04-25-2014 01:51:47 | More by ilikebeer03
Photo of Boston_Steve
Boston_Steve

Massachusetts

3.5/5  rDev -12.7%

06-25-2014 03:48:30 | More by Boston_Steve
Photo of ithinkimasofa
ithinkimasofa

Washington

3/5  rDev -25.2%

11-15-2011 07:05:25 | More by ithinkimasofa
Photo of RMoeNay
RMoeNay

Connecticut

3.75/5  rDev -6.5%

09-14-2013 02:26:09 | More by RMoeNay
Photo of Hendrick24
Hendrick24

Wisconsin

4/5  rDev -0.2%

07-17-2014 21:50:30 | More by Hendrick24
Photo of jeonseh
jeonseh

Indiana

4.1/5  rDev +2.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Dark amber with light trails of carbonation trailing upwards; Rather opaque as I can barely see through it and actually find myself looking into my reflection. One can tell that the beer is going to be sticky in the mouth. Had a one finger head but that went down to a bit of foam trailing on the sides and islands of it floating about my snifter

S - loads of caramel malt with hints of dark fruit as well. Definitely get a hint of the alcohol as well. Scents of sweet, orange remind me a bit of grand marnier; actually get a hint of brandied cherries and vanilla as well which just adds a great feeling to this brew;

T - At first, a hint of caramel malt with a hint of brown sugar and cherry; There is a big whiff of spice that just warms you up and tingles your tongue fading away into candied dates; Near the end there is a candied orange peel comes up in the end along with a bit of alcoholic bite; reminds me a bit of a brandied toffee bread pudding with bits of cherries strewn throughout.

M - Actually not too sticky; the mouth feel is rather big and has a nice carbonation to it which really seems to lend itself to the orange peel flavors in the taste; nice warming tingle left on the tongue that matches the flavors of the spice

D - Overall a nice complex sipper. It was rather good but I expected it to be a bit sweeter. I think this would be good with a bit of age on it to let the orange peel die down a bit; it was rather spicy as well and sometimes think that took a bit away from the other flavors. I do like this though, but not my favorite ale. Think it would go well with some ice cream or maybe a brownie.

Serving type: bottle

10-09-2008 00:45:07 | More by jeonseh
Photo of csustar001
csustar001

New York

4.5/5  rDev +12.2%

03-17-2013 18:15:17 | More by csustar001
Photo of OldhouseRecs
OldhouseRecs

North Carolina

4/5  rDev -0.2%

03-17-2013 03:27:29 | More by OldhouseRecs
Photo of juliusseizure
juliusseizure

New York

3.75/5  rDev -6.5%

03-26-2012 01:24:35 | More by juliusseizure
Photo of mattparsons
mattparsons

New Hampshire

4/5  rDev -0.2%

03-15-2013 02:14:25 | More by mattparsons
Photo of jakea
jakea

Wisconsin

4/5  rDev -0.2%

10-18-2013 02:10:19 | More by jakea
Photo of JustinMatthew
JustinMatthew

Pennsylvania

3.5/5  rDev -12.7%

02-25-2012 16:39:45 | More by JustinMatthew
Photo of warriorsoul
warriorsoul

Pennsylvania

3.9/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Huge thanks to malty for this one...
Cloudy cherry rust color with less than 1/4 finger of off-white head...disappears before the pour is finished and leaves some thin, sporadic lacing.
Vanilla oak scent with a faint candied fruit finish...a bit off when served even slightly chilled, but real attractive at room temp.
Rum soaked raisins up front with quite a fruity hop profile bittering up the finish...rock candy comes to mind and an earthy aftertaste.
A bit too sweet up front for my liking, but as it warms, it becomes so much more balanced. Alcohol is well hidden...although the rum flavor really makes you think that what you are drinking is much stronger than it is...I like that.
Mouthfeel is nice and the carbonation is where I like it.
This would be a one and done for me...would be much more enjoyable in the colder months, but I had to try it fresh. Hopefully more will make its way into my possession to see how it changes in six months.
Not my favorite Founders brew...still a nice offering.

Serving type: bottle

05-23-2006 00:22:53 | More by warriorsoul
Photo of tykechandler
tykechandler

Indiana

5/5  rDev +24.7%

06-19-2014 04:41:26 | More by tykechandler
Photo of IronLover
IronLover

Pennsylvania

3.88/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured with no head and a murky weathered copper color. Very thin wispy off white lacings lay on top after the pour. Sweet caramel malt, ripe apple, spice and oak aromas. Combined with the hint of alcohol, the smell is reminiscent of a light, sweet bourbon. Medium to full bodied with a thick mouth feel as the latent carbonation slowly comes to life. Sweet caramel malt and ripe apple flavors, hints of spice, finishes with an alcoholic burn and a pine hop flavor. Definitely a sipper that warms the soul.

Serving type: bottle

12-02-2010 03:08:29 | More by IronLover
Photo of mscudder
mscudder

Georgia

3.58/5  rDev -10.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Grabbed on fresh made for the summer of 2012. Poured into a schooner.

A - Cloudy amber with a thin pale head that leaves some nice lacing. Brilliant for an old ale.

S - Vanilla, burnt sugar, toffee and some smooth hops on the rear. Nice and complex for an old ale.

T - Follows the nose nicely but there is a compliment of bitter hops. I cannot say I care for this but there is a lot going on. The complex nature is enjoyable but perhaps my palette is just not quite tenured enough.

M - A bit thin, but has a almost syrupy composition on the inside. It feels like an extremely diluted version of the molasses in the CBS and Backwoods Bastard. Upon drawing these connections I feel this just average.

O - A unique brew and certainly a mellowed out version of the Better Half. I cannot justify paying near $3 a bottle of this at my local store. There are a near infinite number of brews I can find better in every category. I must note the alcohol is hidden masterfully, yet this seems to be a trend from the folks at Founders.

Serving type: bottle

05-06-2012 00:26:58 | More by mscudder
Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale) from Founders Brewing Company
90 out of 100 based on 3,391 ratings.