Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale) - Founders Brewing Company

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Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)

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Ratings: 4,138
Reviews: 1,200
rAvg: 4.02
pDev: 10.45%
Wants: 173
Gots: 897 | FT: 53
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Founders Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Old Ale |  9.80% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 08-31-2005

Old ale brewed with molasses and oak-aged.

50 IBU
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Ratings: 4,138 | Reviews: 1,200
Photo of EMV
4.43/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Had on-tap at the Yard House in Orlando, poured into a snifter.

L: Pours a deep opaque mahogany color. Two fingers of off-white head left some attractive lacing.

S: Malts and candy, cloves and molassas... like all the great spices that go into gingerbread cookies. Dark fruits as well.

T/F: Malty and boozy with lots of sweets and spicy flavors. Molassas and brown sugar nicely complement hints of cinnamon and cloves. Nice alcoholic warmth and a clean finish. Light on the carbonation and a bit thick and chewy.

O: This crotchety old bastard from Founders drinks like a meal... or a dessert. This is a great old Ale, and one I will definitely be re-visiting. Founders rarely disappoints.

Photo of pja786
3.87/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Out of the bottle, I get fig/ cherry notes. Taste has a very bold and study maltiness. Hard to discern the hops, but they're present. Overall, this is a good beer and would suggest trying, but will unlikely buy again.

Photo of CNP
3.85/5  rDev -4.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Clear, bright brown color, along with wood smell. Tastes fine, not a big fan tho.

Photo of hardysf
3.28/5  rDev -18.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

Very good mouthfeel. Wonderful color that is clear. Smell of wood and molasses. Some hop spiciness shines through at the end. Too much oak flavor for me. Might be better with some age.

Photo of tekstr1der
3.79/5  rDev -5.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

It seems this thing needs to mellow while sitting for a while. As served, it was a murky light brown with quickly dissipating off-white foam. Smells of cooked sugar, booze, and wood. Flavors are too varied. Some sweet molasses with alcohol and oak. Slightly rough finish/linger of woodiness. The first disappointment I've had from Founders. Perhaps expectations are high here.

Photo of stompilator
4.04/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a 12oz. bottle into a tulip.

A - Poured a deep, opaque red, thin, crispy head.

S - Oak, booze, a little bit of esters, and a wee bit of hops.

T - The oak flavor is definitely dominant, especially up front. Some plummy, berry-esque esters follow along with the thick sweetness from the molasses. Buttery, bready notes come from the malt near the end, with some earthy hops and residual boozinessrounding out the finish.

M - Medium-bodied, easy carbonation.

O - Tons of layers to this particular brew, very sweet in so many ways.

Photo of moonboogie_n8
3.98/5  rDev -1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

fruity and syrupy, this reminds me of a thicker creamier barleywine ale, just not as bitter and in your face. sweet molasses, oak, raisin. FULL body, creamy/slick mouthfeel.
saving one to try in a year. see if it changes the barrage of complex flavors. it just needs to mellow out a bit. still a must try if you like founders.

Photo of WestMichiganWhaler
4.3/5  rDev +7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Overpowering molasses that lingers. Although complex, the smokey, spicy, oakey, boozy components are all dwarfed by the molasses. A very good beer but not my favorite from Founders.

Photo of jonnyybp
3.59/5  rDev -10.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

Not really my style but great beer nonetheless. Sweet, with the molasses, which hides some of the booze. Would like to try it again with some age on it

Photo of Braz
4.18/5  rDev +4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Whoo this was a heavy beer.

Photo of sdwchef
4.23/5  rDev +5.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Very sweet with molasses. Great mouth feel.

Photo of Nctide
3.86/5  rDev -4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Pours a deep bronze color with an off white head. It has a sweetness reminiscent of cherries soaking in scotch whiskey. The taste has a surprising spicy component with a slight alcohol tinge on the finish. Overall this is a decent balanced ale.

Photo of do_ob
4.13/5  rDev +2.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

12 oz. bottle into a snifter. Pours a somewhat hazy amber with about 1/2 a finger of off-white lacing. Smell isn't exactly overpowering, but I get notes of ginger, molasses, figs, raisins, and apples. Smells like a sweet, boozy syrup. Heavy weight, very dense and creamy on the mouthfeel. The taste is pretty much on par with the smell, only intensified. Sweet molasses, sugar, figs, and dark fruit. I'm tasting some alcohol near the middle. Finishes very smooth with a slight alcohol burn. Leaves the palate sweet and sticky, kind of like a cough medicine. A smokey, syrupy sweetness dominates the aftertaste.

Overall, very nice. I've wanted to try this one for a while and I'm glad I was able to find it. It's a bit dense and overpowering in terms of sweetness, but it's still plenty enjoyable, to me at least. It seemed to mellow out slightly after it warmed up a little. My bottle was pretty fresh, though, so I'd like to age a couple more of these and see how they are 6-12 months in.

Photo of titty_mcbitty
4.44/5  rDev +10.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Dark orange ruby color with almost no head.

Smells like wood, raisins, dark fruits, and some booze.

If this is chilled, the flavors are muted to raisins and malt. As it warms, figs, oak, maple, dates, graham cracker, caramel, candy, and more. The complexity takes on a life of its own.

The beer goes down really smooth with just slight booze on the back end. It's thick and creamy.

Overall this beer is wonderful: I love the sweetness it brings on. I'm going to age one and check in in a year!

Photo of maedhros09
3.84/5  rDev -4.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 4

Look: Dark ruby amber with big fluffy off-white head that takes some times to settle.
Smell: Definitely needs to warm up to pick up on the subtle aromas here. Caramel malt, molassas and a smidge of fruity alcohol...
Taste: I'm finding it hard to describe the taste. Partly its because it is so seamless - you can't tell where one fllavor ends and the next begins - but also it's kind of muted. Its this smooth sweetness that comes and goes, with a gentle afterglow of herbal hops. I imagine part of this is the barrel-aging. The alcohol is somewhere in there, obviously, but it isn't too obvious below cellar temps.
Feel: Medium body, very smooth slightly syrupy mouthfeel with subdued carbonation thanks to the high alcohol.

Overall: The Curmudgeon is mysterious in the way it keeps me coming back and trying to understand it. It is big, yet mellow. Strong, yet subtle and thin in a way. It definitely goes against Founders' reputation as makers of brash beers. All in all, though, it's hard to feel like I'm not missing something. I finish it feeling vaguely unsatisfied. Maybe it's the style. For malty goodness I have to admit I would rather crack open a Dirty Bastard.

Photo of Ri0
4.27/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

poured 12oz bottle into chalice. Bottled 4/1/14

A - Dirty caramel brown with amber flecks. Minimal half finger head and no lacing.

S - Thick malty scents of caramel, brown sugar, toffee, butter scotch and bread. Reminds me of a scotch ale.

T - This is mighty tasty with chewy sweet malts of caramel and brown sugar. Very sweet bread and butter scotch give it some depth. The taste has a familiarity of scotch ale, yet it includes notes of dark fruit.

M - Medium bodied with a thicker mouthfeel. Very rich and smooth with lower carbonation.

O - This is a very nice ale. If you like scotch ales or dopplebocks, you will certainly enjoy this one.

Photo of reds2harleys
4.6/5  rDev +14.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Another excellent beer from Founders. Just a slight notch below CBS, KBS and Breakfast Stout but still a superb beer. Wonderful flavor and very drink able.

Photo of kudsak
3.76/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Pours a nice Rich amber color with a nice thick head. Smells fairly yeasty. Medium body. Tastes slightly spicy, Yeasty.

Photo of Young_John
4.27/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

So good, I get misty while writing this review. It pours the color of clover honey. Crystal clear and yet somehow gives the impression of high viscosity. Thin merengue head. Smell of malt and molasses. Thick mouth feel. Rich finish and not the least bit bitter. This is a stout lovers ale for sure. First sip - is like coming home to mom's cooking... Even if you've never had this before, you instantly get the sensation that you've been missing it for a very long time without knowing it. Difficult to enjoy slowly, but at nearly 10% abv and $14/4-pack, you'll have to try.

Photo of MadeInTheMitten
3.35/5  rDev -16.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 2.75

A quarter of a way through and I can tell its heartburn waiting to happen. Which is a shame! Still a good beer!

After finishing this one, my lips are sticky ass hell. Take that for what it's worth. The heartburn never came, but I'm still feeling like I drank a heavy stout.. Must be the molasses.

Photo of ovaltine
4.42/5  rDev +10%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Look: Rich amber, 1-1/2 fingers of opaque white head.

Smell: The oak is present, but the molasses and toffee aromas sneak in to make your mouth water.

Taste: The oak takes a vanilla flavor, and the molasses and toffee flavors balance that perfectly. This is a traveshamockery good dessert beverage, if you choose to go down that path.

Feel: Nice carbonation for a beverage this big, the malt bill is a syrupy balance that fits this beverage very well.

Overall: I have a bottle of KBS aging in my beverage fridge that I just assumed would go to the head of my Founders class. That is no longer a safe assumption after enjoying this magnificent Old Ale. Well done by an iconic American brewer.

Photo of BeerAndGasMasks
3.96/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Dark (but not black) old ale. Enjoyable.

Photo of Csikic93
4.33/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Looks like a dark copper. Malts and clove on the nose. Starts smooth and finishes with a cinnamon and clove flavor

Photo of lilsmizzul1225
4.75/5  rDev +18.2%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

Re-reviewed for a bottle that had been cellared for upwards of 16 months and it made a world of difference. Much sweeter, richer, smoother, no boozy taste and well worth the wait. I have a new bottle and it's going straight into the cellar for next year.

Photo of tedvr
4.13/5  rDev +2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Pours dark amber, with a white medium head. Smells are of sweet malt and mild caramel. Tastes are caramel with a malt backbone. Somewhat carbonated with an interesting finish. Overall and interesting beer that I wonder what it would be like if it was aged.

Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale) from Founders Brewing Company
90 out of 100 based on 4,138 ratings.