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Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale) - Founders Brewing Company

Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)

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pDev: 10.97%


Brewed by:
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Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Old Ale |  9.80% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
50 IBU
Old ale brewed with molasses and oak-aged.

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eduardolinhalis

Switzerland

4.23/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

330ml bottle served in a snifter.

A: Pours a magnificent clear amber color forming a small but medium bubbled light yellow head. Low retention and only few spotty lacings left in the glass

S: Impressive smell sherry and woody. Delicious. Very sweet and fruity as well. Strong notes of oak, bourbon, toffee and caramel malts. Strong English Old Ale character. Notes of grapes and raisins

T: Slightly sweet upfront. Strong notes of oak, toffee, caramel malts, crystal malts, bourbon, grapes and dry raisins. Light hops bitterness as expected by the style

M: Heavy, creamy and molasses body. Low carbonation. Sweet malts and woody aftertaste

O: Good drinkability. Classic English Old Ale. Just another masterpiece brewed by Founders

Serving type: bottle

12-24-2013 19:51:59 | More by eduardolinhalis
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magictacosinus

California

4.35/5  rDev +8.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Purchased way back in Indiana in August, only to let it age further in my cabinet and then my fridge until today. Poured out of a 12oz bottle into a snifter. No bottling date - I'm still going to assume that this is 8-12 months old.

Pours a dark amber color, complete with about a half finger of frothy white head. Some large bubbles appear on the top, but due to the beer's age, soon dissipate. No bubbles show. Leaves behind good lacing, but no stickiness. Looks very viscous, and given the style and age on this thing, that's exactly what I'd expect.

Smells like a good sherry mixed with an English barleywine, and I'm most definitely going to credit the aging process in this case. No clue how this is fresh, but it's great as an old ale should be - notes of caramelized, dried raisins, dates, and apples meld with a an array of spices from the malts, yeast, and oak. Molasses is obvious, but cinnamon, honey, and nutmeg are pretty prevalent. Finishes with a dry, oak-laden sensation that reminds me of sherry - slightly oxidized, nutty, and bready. The hops are pretty much gone here, but the malt profile is shining. To be honest, this could only get better - the caramel and dried fruit notes are excellent, and more time will allow them to shine.

Tastes as smells, although the malty, bready finish does, in fact, remind me that this is a beer that I'm drinking instead of a sherry or marsala. Immediate notes of dried fruits, ranging from raisins to dates, and then a brief, bright showcase of caramel, toffee, and honey. Finishes wet, with some slight dryness from the oak and concentration of caramelized sugars. The brief molasses notes opens up a spicy, slightly bitter texture, and the oak notes at the end are filled with spices ranging from nutmeg to baking soda. Slightly lactic as well, as you would from a Chardonnay that's gone through malolactic fermentation. Finishes with an herbal, near cannabis tinged hoppy profile. However, the sugars are really subtle and only further compliment the dried fruit and bready (akin to fruitcake) characteristic that makes this beer unique. Very creamy and supremely easy to drink. Alcohol is very well hidden. Complex, but enjoyable.

Man, this is Founders' malt brilliance at full form here. I really wish I had tried the maple bourbon barrel aged version of this some years back. This is an excellent take on the old ale style, and it seems to only get better with age. A sipper, no doubt, but I should have had a damn cigar for this occasion. Absolutely, as with all of this brewery's malt forward beers, completely recommended.

Serving type: bottle

12-23-2013 07:55:23 | More by magictacosinus
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emyers

Illinois

4.2/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

12 oz. bottle poured into a Founders snifter.

Appearance: Pours a cloudy deep amber-red with a thin off-white head. Decent lacing.

Smell: Rich caramel and toffee, figs, raisins, hints of chocolate. Some alcohol heat which works perfectly with the rest of the aroma. Some molasses in there as well. Aroma is complex and very rich overall. Excellent.

Taste: Similar to the smell with big caramel and toffee flavors along with some dark fruits, although not quite as rich and layered. Alcohol heat is actually hidden very well - you can tell the alcohol is there, but it never really comes of as "hot."

Mouthfeel: Full-bodied, rich, and smooth. Low carbonation level. Excellent.

Overall: Founders kills it again. This is a great example of an old ale done right.

Serving type: bottle

12-16-2013 03:26:28 | More by emyers
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CloudStrife

New York

4.11/5  rDev +2.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz bottle poured into a tulip. Bottled 01/18/13.

A: Pours a hazy amber ruby with a mostly white head. Too opaque to see any visible carbonation. Leaves some spots of lacing on the sides of the glass.

S: Malt forward beer with a nice oak quality. Sweetness from the molasses. Roasted malts give off some fruit like qualities.

T: Mellow brew with a well balanced flavor. Starts off with some sweetness, then the malts come in to say hello. Still a touch of alcohol on the backend after 10months.

M: Medium body with a creamy aspect to it. Low carbonation with a smooth finish. Can be a bit hot fresh.

Overall a solid beer that can be enjoyed by all types of beer lovers. Molasses adds some sweetness to counteract the bold malt flavor while oak comes in to mellow it all out.

Serving type: bottle

12-04-2013 02:53:02 | More by CloudStrife
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ADZA

Australia

3.56/5  rDev -11.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

I've come a long way and looking at the other reviews I thought I give this guy another go and it pours a reddish copper hue with a creamy one finger head,the smell is quite sweet it's molasses,honey,oak and hidden underneath there is a piney hop bitterness,the mouthfeel is full bodied with minimal carbonation and could use just a touch more I feel and on taste it's definitely an old ale with hints of molasses,caramel,bitter old hops,a residing pine bitterness and finished with nice hit of oak that is quite subdued and works well and overall it's one of those beers that's nice but not something ill come back and revisit like breakfast stout or all day IPA cheers.

Serving type: bottle

12-01-2013 04:12:31 | More by ADZA
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barczar

Kentucky

3.75/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Pours an opaque medium brown with copper and caramel tones and a modest khaki head that leaves sheets of lacing and a thin layer of foam.

Sweet, doughy, yeasty malt, caramel, and floral hops form the initial aroma. Plums, hints of raisins, dates, and figs add complexity.

Rich, sweet caramel malt provides a nice brown sugar opening, with bready toasted, and nutty notes surfacing mid palate. There's an earthy bitterness throughout, preventing the malt from becoming cloying. Prunes, dates, and figs underlie the malt subtly.

Body is syrupy and thick, with low carbonation and noticeable, but not overwhelming, alcohol warmth. There's a slight harshness in the finish.

Not as complex as the best of the style, and a touch on the sweet side. I don't know if there's enough there to improve with age. Guess I'll have to find out. Rich malt backbone.

Serving type: bottle

11-24-2013 17:48:37 | More by barczar
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Darkmagus82

Virginia

4.1/5  rDev +2.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Served on tap in a snifter

Appearance – The beer is served a clear deep golden amber color with a small thick looking white head. The head fades rather slowly leaving a decent level of streaky lace on the sides of the glass.

Smell – The aroma is of a sweet caramel and a decent level of a bready smell. Along with these aromas are some notes of darker fruits with some raisin and prune as well as some other sweet smells of toffee and molasses. Along with these smells are some oak and booze which combined with the rest to produce a sweet, warming and malty aroma overall.

Taste – The taste begins with a rather sweet and smooth taste. The taste is largest of a smooth bready and caramel flavor with hints of light roasted and dark fruits within. The roastiness get slightly stronger as the taste advances with the darker fruits of raisin and plum getting stronger as the taste advances as well. Some more boozy flavors start to work their way in more toward the middle of the taste with some nice molasses sweetness coming to the tongue as well. With the booze and the sweeter flavors that come to the tongue more toward the middle, and a little bit of an oaky, rum like flavor, that comes to the tongue at the end, one is left with a nice smooth and sweet warming flavor to be left on the tongue.

Mouthfeel –For a brew of almost 10 % abv it is very drinkable yet appropriate in style. The body of the beer is on the thicker side rather nicely accentuating all the sweet and malty flavors of the beer while the carbonation of the brew is on the lower side, which allows all the oaky, sweet, and malty flavors tons of time to linger on the tongue.

Overall – A very enjoyable sweet and malty brew. Just what an old ale should be.

Serving type: on-tap

11-23-2013 02:41:12 | More by Darkmagus82
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Jho3325

Indiana

4.31/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

2013 Release 12 oz bottle poured aggressively into a pint seidel.

A: This ale appears light amber to red. A full two fingers of dense foam created a moderate lasting head. There was strong lacing throughout the mug. The overall look, however, did not quite do this full bodied ale it's proper justice.

S: The rich caramel malt was apparent as was the oaky nature of this ale. Notes of coffee and roasted malt hit the nostrils with a hint of the sweet molasses and almost a fruity twinge.

T: This ale is quite complex. The oaky, smokiness gives way to richly roasted malty goodness. As it warms, the sweet molasses and toffee flavor come out and a touch of citrus was a delightful twist. This is a very smooth, drinkable ale but was a touch hot on the tongue and a bit boozy. I did not find it bitter at all.

M: This ale was appropriately carbonated on the tongue and had a nice body that coated the mouth and throat.

O: This was a very pleasant ale that was quite complex. I appreciated the balance between the rich malty tones, sweet molasses, and oaky notes. The brew was a bit boozy, but overall, it was very drinkable. A good ale for the malt lover and Perfect for a cool evening.

Would recommend.

Serving type: bottle

11-21-2013 04:50:12 | More by Jho3325
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BrownNut

Florida

4.08/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Tried this one in late 2012 and again after aging it nearly a year. The score for the fresh tasting is the one I use for the official score.

REVIEW AFTER AGING A YEAR, 11-12-13

A - 4.0 - Rosy darker orange with a substantial cream colored fluffy head that endures for a respectable period.

S - 4.0 - Raisin Bran with honey drizzled on it like I used to eat as a kid: malty bran, raisins, honey. And a bit of booze. This seems to be standard for old ales.

T - 4.0 - Honey sweet, malty, with a bitter sharp element that I remember not liking last time. Still here, though at a lower level. Can't tell if this is hop bitterness or something else. A bit of warm alcohol fumes wafting up the throat.

M - 4.0 - Medium heavy mouthfeel. Leaves a sticky coating on the tongue.

O - 4.0 - I remember being disappointed at this when I had it a year ago due to the bitterness, which tasted wrong. I think it has faded some now. It's still there and still a bit unwelcome, but less noticeable. Otherwise it's pleasant but not overly complex. With that said, it's not too out of line with other old ales I've had. Maybe the bitterness was an attempt at another layer for the sake of complexity.

Verdict. I think it made sense to age it. I'll put another year on it and see what that does.

ORIGINAL REVIEW, 12-09-12

A - 3.5 - Looks like cloudy apple cider, not much head, and what there is doesn't last long at all.

S - 4.5 - Smells great. Very malty and kind of sweet. Reminds me so much of the smell of Raisin Bran with honey on it in my cereal bowl as a kid.

T - 4.0 - The malt from the aroma carries through and to a lesser extent the honey. What comes with it is a mild bitterness of the woody variety, almost with a bitter citrus peel hook at the back of the tongue but not quite. That lingers on the back of the tongue for five or ten minutes after finishing. This is part of what gives the beer its unique identity but is also something I'd like to see muted, which maybe I'll get via aging. I'm left with very pleasant mildly burny booze fumes drifting up my throat, the kind that keep you warm in cold weather.

M - 4.0 - Medium bodied, coats the tongue. Fights to go dry at the end but doesn't quite make it. Nice and interesting.

O - 4.0 - Really very nice. Chalk up another old ale for me. I have yet to have something called old ale that I dislike.

Serving type: bottle

11-13-2013 04:28:12 | More by BrownNut
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scotorum

Massachusetts

4.18/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

No dates visible.

Poured from the 12 oz. bottle into a Samuel Adams nonick.

a: Clear dark amber with a finger thick offwhite head which receded to even surface foam and nearly solid lacing.

s: Caramel malt.

t: Heavy caramel malt over hops and alcohol. Sweet taste with hop/alcohol balance reminds that this was made with molasses. Almost boubonlike.

m: Heavy but smooth.

o: A fine fall-winter warming sipper.

Serving type: bottle

11-11-2013 05:02:53 | More by scotorum
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SebD

Ontario (Canada)

4.04/5  rDev +0.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Appearance: It has a nice deep hazy orange/brownish color to it. It has a nice beige head that dies down somewhat fast and leaves great lacing.

Smell: The aromas definitely give out hints of sweet molasses, brown sugar, dark fruit (raisins) toffee and some woody oak.

Taste: Like the aromas, it has some sweet molasses, toffee, some caramel, brown sugar, raisins and woody oak.

Mouthfeel: It has a low-med carbonation with a nice overall balance and feel.

Drinkability: It's a very smooth drinkable beer accompanied with great flavors and aromas.

Serving type: bottle

11-10-2013 00:04:39 | More by SebD
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BeerDawgs

Georgia

4.01/5  rDev 0%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A 12 oz bottle, which I am guessing is a 2012 bottling, so 1 year old

A - Deep amber, with some clarity. Murky looking. Takes on the color of the molasses. Small amount of lace left on the glass, looks delicious

S - Brown sugar, malts, almost bourbon aroma, from the barrel aging.

T - Fairly sweet old ale, oak, brown sugar, very good!

M - Full bodied, well carbonated.

O - This one is a slow sipper, and its damn good. Well done Founders. Would like to age this one for a few years

Serving type: bottle

10-30-2013 00:59:26 | More by BeerDawgs
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rdilauro

Connecticut

4/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The pour was almost like a dirty pilsner minus some stock colors. Seriously, the beer had a nice color, not deep, not light, but just really nice.

It had a nice nose, there was a definite feeling of alcohol here, but at the same time a kindred spirit of the seas. As I was drinking my first one, there was no question how soft, round and easy it was to drink this

I never knew what OLD Ale was in terms of a type, but after drinking this, I can understand it a little better. There was a good feel to the oaked barrel aging of this. I did not feel all the sweetness I would have expected from molasses. But, it did play a part at the finish

This Old ale was very deceptive. It presented itself with a nose that seemed brisk and alive, then the taste was so very soft, a bit on the sweet side, then the finish had the taste of oak.

Very interesting to say the least I think this has been one of the more complex beers that I've tasted

Serving type: bottle

10-15-2013 03:49:00 | More by rdilauro
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bevoduz

Illinois

4.25/5  rDev +6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

I bought a few 4 packs of this several years and wasn't too impressed, but I held on to them, and am I glad I did! Several months ago I opened up a 2011 and was very happy I did. I actually had to fish the bottle out of the trash to make sure it was the beer I thought I had just opened. Fortunately it was still readily available on the shelves so I picked up a few more, knowing I'd then be able to enjoy them in a few years!

Serving type: bottle

10-14-2013 03:16:29 | More by bevoduz
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Jacurdy60

Alabama

4.15/5  rDev +3.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

A-Pours a deep amber color that is hazy and impermeable with a light brown middle. Head is thin, but consists of thick, creamy foam. Lotta lacing here.

S-You definitely pick up on the oaked note at first. It mingles nicely with sweet molasses, a slight burnt char, dark fruits and a touch of booze. Well balanced all the way through the nose.

T-Sweet molasses and dark fruit hit the front of the palate as it fades into a slight bitterness at the middle. Finishes with a semi-bitter flavor that rounds out the sweetness well. Lingering booze.

MF-Full-bodied, creamy and thick. Finishes smooth and wet

O-My first Old Ale and I am pleasantly surprised. A lot like a BDA but with a nice oaked nuance. Well balanced on all aspects. Founders did it again.

Serving type: bottle

10-13-2013 23:10:38 | More by Jacurdy60
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MNishCT77

District of Columbia

4.16/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

12 oz. bottle obtained on trade (thanks, Greg Radawich!)., poured into my Ghandi-Bot snifter (again, thanks, Greg Radawich!), 2012 vintage but dates obscured on bottle, drank 10/9-10/13 over several hours while homebrewing.

A: 2/3 - ruby-red-to-brown coloration, solid clarity for such high ABV (but cannot see or read through), poured with a frothy white head that resolved into glass lacing; moderately carbonated with moderate alcohol legs

S: 9/12 - plums, raisins, figs, alcohol...nice!

T: 16/20 -up front, I picked up mostly complex malt flavors that accompanied the nose; in the middle of the mouth, there is some balancing bitterness and alcohol flavors to prevent the beer from venturing into too-cloying land; little aftertaste, invited sip after sip

M: 4/5 - big, chewy old ale character; moderately bodied and carbonated as expected

O: 8/10 - really nice old ale/barleywine from one of the best breweries in the country; will certainly improve with age, as the complex malt character would really start to pop even more at years 2+; recommended and for trade if you cannot get it in your region

TOTAL = 39/50

Serving type: bottle

10-10-2013 04:20:05 | More by MNishCT77
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Brabander

Netherlands

4/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

I bought this beer in Belgium a few weeks ago @ Dranken Geers, near Gent. I was pretty surprised to see this beer in the shop.

Poured in my little Struise tasting glass this beer starts of quit nice with a coppercoloured fluid and a very decent head. No carbonation, pity. The head is gone after a minute leaving some pretty lacing in the glass.

You can actually smell the molasses (or at least that is what i think i am smelling).

The beer is too flat, not much going in in the mouth...but in the end the taste is ok!

Serving type: bottle

09-13-2013 21:02:30 | More by Brabander
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KickbacksSteve

Florida

4.64/5  rDev +15.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.75

3-4 year old bottle, not much head or lacing. Muddy, tudor brown body. Aroma includes brown sugar, raisin, date, vanilla. Taste includes all of these flavors and a slight hint of alcohol heat. Delicious in every way, one of the best old ales I've had.

Serving type: bottle

08-23-2013 00:55:07 | More by KickbacksSteve
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wd40

New York

4.16/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Reddish orange color. Smells sweet with a bit of hop. Definitely different than an English style old ale, but very good. Taste is surprisingly bitter. Ends up being like a barelywine. Very good taste. Just not what I expected from my experience drinking English style old ales. Mouthfeel is fantastic. The carbonation is really where this beer shines. It gives it a creamy and viscous feel. Overall it's good!

Serving type: bottle

08-22-2013 03:31:56 | More by wd40
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jrenihan

Ontario (Canada)

3.84/5  rDev -4.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Beer is reddish-brown in colour, with a small to moderately sized off-white head. Head fades quickly, but good lacing.

Nose contains molasses, oak, malt, toffee and a bit of dark fruit. The molasses and oak are strongest.

Taste also strongly contains molasses and oak. Burnt toffee, herbal flavours (I want to say juniper). Very "tree-like". Some booziness.

Full bodied, moderate carbonation. Astringent and a bit oily.

Overall, good, though not great. The molasses is a bit strong for my liking.

Serving type: bottle

08-15-2013 01:32:34 | More by jrenihan
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Bierman9

New Hampshire

4.03/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Have had a few bottles of this already, but am just now getting around to putting my thoughts into bytes.... 12 oz bottle, into a small tulip...

A hard pour into the glass produces a deep mahogany hued bier. It has a little bit of haze, and the head is quite creamy, fine, and light tan in color. It sits at about 1/4" before ebbing to a thin layer, and lacing is good. It smells fairly boozy, along with some toffee and bourbonish qualities. It is silky-smooth, and the body is medium-plus.

The flavor has a good amount of malty sweetness, with caramel, toffee and molasses quite noticeable. You can also get a taste of what the wood contributes here, too. I also get intimations of rum-soaked brown-bread. There is earthy hoppiness here as well, while the finish exhibits some alcoholic heat. Pretty good, in small doses! Prosit!

4.03/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

1588

Serving type: bottle

08-14-2013 21:53:06 | More by Bierman9
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Givemebeer

Vermont

4.54/5  rDev +13.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.5

Stumbled upon Curmudgeon just today though it is out of season so was happy to pay $13 for a 4 pack as everything Founders seems to be a winner

Curmudgeon is a great starter old ale in my opinion. Beautiful look and well balanced. Love the malt in it but the beauty is the hops showing themselves towards the end just enough so that you know they're there. Not overly sweet and simply delicious.

If you see it, buy it. Another winner from Founders. I will be purchasing this again.

Serving type: bottle

07-30-2013 00:50:59 | More by Givemebeer
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Jonada

New Jersey

4.09/5  rDev +2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottled April 6, 2012. Served in a snifter.

Appearance: Pours a dark amber orange color with less than a finger of an off white, cream colored head. Head dissipates quickly to a thin collar. Body is very hazy with epic amount of suspended sediment floating in the glass.

Smell: Dark fruit, caramel, toffee, bourbon, oak, butterscotch, figs, vanilla and booze.

Taste: Follows the nose, with caramel, bourbon and oaky vanilla notes being the most present. Dark fruit and a toasted breadiness come out more in the finish. From start to finish there are lots of sweet malts which are balanced nicely by a noticeable, but not overpowering alcohol warmth.

Mouthfeel: Full bodied, slightly syrupy, sticky mouthfeel. Medium carbonation is just right.

Overall: Some age (1+ year) mellowed this out quite a bit, but this is still a sipper for sure. As far as old ales go, this isn't the best but it's a damn good one.

Serving type: bottle

07-25-2013 04:59:18 | More by Jonada
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mpedara429

Massachusetts

4.34/5  rDev +8.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

A: Poured out a copper color with one finger of a orangy tan head. Not much lacing or retention to speak of.

S: A very sweet caramel and oak aged smell. There are also some fruity notes like raisins and over-ripened strawberries.

T: Very much like the smell, but not as sweet and potent. There is a nice earthy hoppiness balancing out the immense sweetness that could've been imagined by the smell. There is a fair amount of booziness.

M: Medium, sticky body that is a bit creamy. Medium-light carbonation. Surprisingly lighter and smoother than expected.

O: Better than some of the other Old Ales I've had. I like the lack of sweetness in the taste of Carmudgeon. Old Ales tend to be very sweet for me, but this one had a nice balance to it. Normally, I'd be one and done with an Old Ale, but I could see myself wanting a couple of these in a session.

Serving type: bottle

07-16-2013 02:38:27 | More by mpedara429
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RickS95

Indiana

4.23/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

It's an impressive looking beer with an orange amber pour. Very rich looking. Not the darkest beer by any means, but thick and rich enough to be completely opaque. The head is an off-white. It's a slow forming, cascading head that never grows terribly thick but it retains moderately well, never fully dissipates and leaves a sticky lace behind.

The scent is so subtle that nothing really jumps out. It's clearly all malt, caramel possibly and the molasses is present.

It tastes like you'd expect and it's pretty spectacular. There's an earthiness to it from the oak barrels and had I not known about the molasses I'd have guessed brown sugar. Also, the alcohol is fairly noticeable, though never over the top.

Not sure how to describe it, but it's got an 'old' feel to it as well. It starts off relatively sweet, which makes sense given the malt bill. As the beer works its way back, it starts to give off some heat from the high ABV. It remains sweet throughout, but never cloying as there is a nice balance. It's very full bodied and finishes dry and hot.

Overall it's a beer everyone should try. Clearly a sipper, it goes down easier than a barleywine or DIPA and is mostly pleasant for the duration.

Serving type: bottle

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Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale) from Founders Brewing Company
90 out of 100 based on 2,862 ratings.