Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale) - Founders Brewing Company

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Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)

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Ratings: 3,752
Reviews: 1,111
rAvg: 4.02
pDev: 10.7%
Wants: 145
Gots: 713 | FT: 45
Brewed by:
Founders Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Old Ale |  9.80% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
50 IBU
Old ale brewed with molasses and oak-aged.

(Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 08-31-2005)
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4.75/5  rDev +18.2%

Photo of yamar68
4/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Doing a quick '11 and '12 side-by-side. Both poured from 12oz bottle to blank pint glasses. Scores will reflect the fresh bottle. The '12 was bottled 11 days ago. The '11 was bottled 386 days ago.


'12: Bright, clear ruby/tangerine with minimal beading. Two fingers of healthy, sticky slightly off white head. Lacing is evident immediately.

'11: A bit of clarity is lost. Head is much looser and less stubborn. Lacing is equally impressive.


'12: Toffee, vanilla, simple syrup, faint wood, definitely a good dash of hops.

'11: Seemingly more pungent... The same base notes are there with a hint of bourbon or some other sweet booze. No discernible hop presence.


'12: Quite nice. Fresh caramel and burnt sugar. Hops take a back seat to a wide range of malty bits. Booze is pretty tame.

'11: Wow, I don't think I could stress enough how vastly different this is. A whole family of tastes have surfaced - leather, scotch, some oxidation, sherry, nearly overwhelm the flavors that I appreciate in its fresher counterpart.


The '12 goes down much easier than its elder. It really is an entirely different beer. I was unsure if I would be too interested in the differences between these two but, alas. All in all, I'd recommend the fresh Curmudgeon over an aged version 9 times out of 10.

Photo of ObeMaltKinobee
4/5  rDev -0.5%

Photo of dafizzif
4.2/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: Pours a deep rusty orange with a thin off-white head that disappears quickly.

Smell: Mainly orange rind and bourbon. Very sweet with some oak notes, some booze, and caramel. Very sweet smell, but not sickly sweet. I like the smell on this one a lot.

Taste: Very harsh woody oak notes up front. It is quite intense to be honest. Very spicy from this. Pretty smoky as well. The oakiness, smokiness, and a slight alcohol burn are very well in tune and balanced. Not really sweet at all in contrast to the nose. It is actually interesting how different they are. There is also a bit of citrusy hop bitterness. Very interesting.

Mouthfeel: Very good amount of carbonation for the style. It is very minimal but still good. A heavier than medium body that goes down a bit harsh.

Overall: A very nice brew that I will love to come back to soon. Many interesting notes going on that I love.

Photo of MikeConklin
3.75/5  rDev -6.7%

Photo of CoryR
4/5  rDev -0.5%

Photo of cooler4life
4.05/5  rDev +0.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A: Poured a murky reddish brown with a one finger off-white head that settled to a thin cap around the edges. Lacing is thick, bonded to the glass by a thick residue of fine carbonation.

S: A rich malty sweetness lays the groundwork for the nose. Essences of oak, sour pecan, vanilla bean intertwine to play with your senses.

T: Follows the nose. Malt! Boozy from the bourbon undertones, cola, vanilla, caramel. Flavor intensifies as it exists your palate and finishes hot and tangy with a kick of citrus and hops.

M: Smooth!! The ABV is nowhere to be found which is just how I like it. I could use a tad more carbonation to keep things fresh. Full sticky body.

O: I'm cellaring a couple of these to see where it goes. Overall, I really enjoyed this beer. The bourbonesque flavors were balanced very nicely. If all old ales are this good, I'm ready to get crusty.

Update 5/22/13 - Re-reviewing after 1 year on the bottle

Age on the bottle has only made things even more smooth. The flavors have melded together quite well. As I mentioned a year ago, the flavor begins smoothly then intensifies to a wonderful hoppy bite. I'm picking up on a little coffee as well. Carbonation is still on the low side, but who is complaining? Probably the old curmudgeon.

Photo of Beardofbrown
4.25/5  rDev +5.7%

Photo of BoOmerG
3.75/5  rDev -6.7%

Photo of LambicKing
4.25/5  rDev +5.7%

Photo of sennin
5/5  rDev +24.4%

Photo of mater
4.25/5  rDev +5.7%

Photo of bootsdomino
4.5/5  rDev +11.9%

Photo of ShemRahBoo
4.25/5  rDev +5.7%

Photo of jsnoek
3.75/5  rDev -6.7%

Photo of RoryOMoore
4.25/5  rDev +5.7%

Photo of gfx
3.75/5  rDev -6.7%

Photo of DaveONan
4.25/5  rDev +5.7%

Photo of calcnerd
4.25/5  rDev +5.7%

Photo of cardern
3.75/5  rDev -6.7%

Photo of Jimmys
3.68/5  rDev -8.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle into tulip. bottled on 04/06/12.

A: a hazy deep orange hue. bright. the head is thick and slightly off white. good retention and boatloads of sticky lacing.

S: molasses, oak, vanilla. a chewy, wheat or munich aroma is present and provides a canvas for the molasses and oak to shine.

T: bits of smoke. fruit too. plums and pears. apricot. little bit of booze. bits of molasses in the finish. more and more vanilla comes out and more booze. ethanol really makes up the majority of this body.

M: mouthfeel consists of subtle carbonation on a full body.

D: flavor and the nose are good, not great. a little too much booze on this less than a month old example. i will certainly consider setting a few of these aside for a while and im sure that would make them that much better.

Photo of tewaris
3.33/5  rDev -17.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Bottled 02/24/09, sampled April, 2012. 12 oz split among three people.

Amber, hazy with some small chunks of sediment, medium head, and some legs upon swirling. Aroma is quite good: very sweet with caramel, malt, and some alcohol. Tastes sweet with some flavor (caramel mostly) and slight bitterness but pretty unremarkable all around. Silky feel with low carbonation and a rather dry finish for its size. Not a bad beer but not good either.

3.5, 4, 3, 4, 3

Photo of DevilsCups
3.98/5  rDev -1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle dated 4/9/11, enjoyed on 4/24/12. A tad over a year on this one.

A - Ugly, murky brown pour with a finger or so of light tan head. Looks like a dunked to be honest. Lacing is minimal and spotty. Age contributes to al of the appearance traits.

S - Great aroma of oak, booze, vanilla and caramel. Smells great. The toffee/caramel note is especially nice mixed with the slight booze. Smells like a sweet dessert.

T - Age did this one pretty well. Big toffee and vanilla notes, slight booze and a bit of white wine characteristic. Very nice mix of strong caramel malts and vanilla notes with a very slight vinous aftertaste.

M - Lost some carbonation over the year but still passable. Very thick and finely carbonated. Halfway to melted ice cream thickness, really, and it works! Drinks a tad like a real ale. Slightly coating and sweet. Dangerously easy to drink.

O - Really like Curmudgeon. This is probably a better beer when fresh I think, but it would be fun to do a side by side. Very excited to get to my Better Half when the time is right.

Photo of vbiliyar
3.5/5  rDev -12.9%

Photo of AJD1201
3.75/5  rDev -6.7%

Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale) from Founders Brewing Company
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