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Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale) - Founders Brewing Company

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Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)

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BA SCORE
90
outstanding

3,482 Ratings
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Ratings: 3,482
Reviews: 1,098
rAvg: 4.01
pDev: 10.97%
Wants: 137
Gots: 628 | FT: 45
Brewed by:
Founders Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Old Ale |  9.80% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
50 IBU
Old ale brewed with molasses and oak-aged.

(Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 08-31-2005)
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cgrz

Michigan

3.75/5  rDev -6.5%

01-20-2014 09:03:57 | More by cgrz
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CSpoons

Delaware

3.25/5  rDev -19%

01-19-2014 21:41:19 | More by CSpoons
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falloutsnow

Illinois

2.75/5  rDev -31.4%

From: Binny's, Champaign, IL
Date: None on bottle, spring 2013 release
Glass: Founders snifter

Founders' Curmudgeon is a rather disappointing old ale, featuring a good, but fairly uncomplicated dark brown caramel-like sweetness with a bit of oak, both of which are rather quickly subsumed by the ethanol content of the beer. The alcohol becomes excessively apparent with warmth, detracting from the overall experience and enjoyment of this beer. I find myself asking, "was this intentional, or just a too-hot and quick fermentation/bottling/shipping schedule?" Founders suggests that this beer is "deceptively smooth and drinkable," on the 4-pack, but I'd heartily disagree. Nowhere near comparable to the effortless smoothness (that is, non-ethanol-detectable) and more complex flavors in, say, Hair of the Dog releases. Not one I'd pick up again.

Pours a 0.5cm tall head of beige-colored, small-sized bubbles, with below average retention of about twenty seconds, barely enough time to register that the head looked a bit frothy. The head fades to a thin ring around the glass, and leaves good lacing, a more than moderate number of large dots cling to the glass' sides. Beer's body is a dark golden orange color, almost brown, with reddish highlights; light brings out brighter golden orange hues with yellow highlights. Carbonation visible through the slightly hazy (20-30% opacity) body, low in number and moderate in activity.

Aroma of fairly heavy caramel-like sweetness, ethanol, and oak, only moderately robust, not nearly as expressive or complex as I was hoping.

The most notable flavors of the beer are heavy/syrupy brown caramel-like sweetness, a touch of toasted bread and oak, and big ethanol, which becomes more apparent the longer the sip lasts in the mouth. The front of the palate tastes moderate oak, medium-strong brown caramel-like sweetness, and light ethanol. Mid-palate detects flavors of strong ethanol, heavy/syrupy brown caramel-like sweetness, a touch of toasted bread and oak, but the somewhat harsh ethanol largely steamrolls the other flavors. Back of palate is largely of heavy/syrupy brown caramel-like sweetness with a bit of oak, which is quite pleasant, but then the ethanol largely obscures this with its flavor and heat. Aftertaste is primarily of ethanol, with a bit of light caramel sweetness hidden in the background.

Beer's body is medium-heavy, with carbonation of medium-low intensity, resulting in a lightly foamy (1/4), mostly smooth (3/4) mouthfeel that is appropriate for sipping a beer of this style. Unfortunately, ethanol is easily felt as heat in the nostrils and across the palate, and as a burning sensation on the throat. Though "only" 9.8% ABV, this feels like a much stronger beer; ethanol not well-hidden. Closes dry, with heavy stickiness lingering on the palate and lips.

01-19-2014 04:09:35 | More by falloutsnow
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davemathews68

Ohio

3.75/5  rDev -6.5%

01-17-2014 02:27:27 | More by davemathews68
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leprechaunandfatman

Ohio

4.75/5  rDev +18.5%

01-16-2014 15:47:54 | More by leprechaunandfatman
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VonZipper

New York

4.25/5  rDev +6%

01-16-2014 02:32:18 | More by VonZipper
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Eindacor_DS

Connecticut

4.5/5  rDev +12.2%

01-15-2014 14:54:30 | More by Eindacor_DS
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jacothom

Indiana

3.75/5  rDev -6.5%

01-14-2014 23:19:56 | More by jacothom
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mattmarka1

Minnesota

4.5/5  rDev +12.2%

01-14-2014 01:45:27 | More by mattmarka1
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PopnLoads

Illinois

3.75/5  rDev -6.5%

01-13-2014 20:19:44 | More by PopnLoads
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jburd19

Ohio

4/5  rDev -0.2%

01-13-2014 03:52:40 | More by jburd19
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I_BYE_MI_BEER

Michigan

3.75/5  rDev -6.5%

01-12-2014 16:41:30 | More by I_BYE_MI_BEER
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darcange

Massachusetts

4.5/5  rDev +12.2%

01-12-2014 00:46:51 | More by darcange
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DrewSimm

Illinois

4.75/5  rDev +18.5%

01-11-2014 06:53:22 | More by DrewSimm
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tviz33

New York

4.25/5  rDev +6%

01-10-2014 22:42:19 | More by tviz33
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bauermj

Illinois

3.75/5  rDev -6.5%

01-09-2014 19:46:08 | More by bauermj
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jscheuf

Illinois

4.25/5  rDev +6%

01-08-2014 15:58:11 | More by jscheuf
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BurgeoningBrewhead

Pennsylvania

4.64/5  rDev +15.7%

Poured into tulip; translucent orange red with a moderate white head that fades quickly into a nice layer of foam with a bubble ring.
Smells of nutty sweet malt, raisins, sweet bread, chocolate, molasses, oak, light bourbon, brown sugar, toffee, vanilla.
Taste is soft sweet bread malt, barrel character of oak, bourbon, and vanilla...molasses, brown sugar and some earthy hops ghosting in at the end.
Mouthfeel is smooth and thick and sticky.
Overall, very nice brew as I'd expect from Founders. Malty, los of barrel character, and you'd never know it's 9.8%.

01-08-2014 05:05:42 | More by BurgeoningBrewhead
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BKBassist

New York

4/5  rDev -0.2%

01-07-2014 21:30:03 | More by BKBassist
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ThatsThatDude

New York

1/5  rDev -75.1%

01-06-2014 15:40:00 | More by ThatsThatDude
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waddellc2

Pennsylvania

4.25/5  rDev +6%

01-06-2014 00:23:38 | More by waddellc2
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jkrug5

Maryland

4/5  rDev -0.2%

01-04-2014 22:00:48 | More by jkrug5
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jvillefan

California

3.75/5  rDev -6.5%

01-03-2014 21:50:09 | More by jvillefan
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Gemini6

Michigan

4.25/5  rDev +6%

01-03-2014 20:39:00 | More by Gemini6
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EyePeeAyBryan

Arizona

4/5  rDev -0.2%

01-02-2014 03:16:54 | More by EyePeeAyBryan
Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale) from Founders Brewing Company
90 out of 100 based on 3,482 ratings.