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Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale) - Founders Brewing Company

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Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)

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Ratings: 3,536
Reviews: 1,103
rAvg: 4.01
pDev: 10.97%
Wants: 135
Gots: 652 | FT: 48
Brewed by:
Founders Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Old Ale |  9.80% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
50 IBU
Old ale brewed with molasses and oak-aged.

(Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 08-31-2005)
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Photo of KajII
3.78/5  rDev -5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.75

[Suggested Glassware: Snifter]

The pour was a murky caramel brown with a slight reddish hue and an average (1-2 fingers) off white creamy head that was mostly lasting, reducing to a puddled film and medium collar with excellent sheets of sticky lacing.

The aroma was of a toasted biscuit malt and a sweet doughy yeast with notes of caramel, toffee, vanilla, dark fruit (raisons & cherries), oak cask and a little above mild scent of alcohol.

The taste was malty sweet with a decent touch of caramel and toffee early on, and then progressed with a mild yeast presence, a light fruitiness, a hint of oak and had a sweet alcohol finish. The flavor lasted an average duration after the swallow, with the malty sweetness and a slight alcohol warming left to linger on the taste buds a bit longer.

Mouthfeel was medium in body and syrupy in texture with a nice soft carbonation.

Overall what is there to be said but 'This brewer does it again". This is a really good brew, with a great balance and awesome taste...


KajII, Jan 23, 2014
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4/5  rDev -0.2%

miffsudd, Jan 23, 2014
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4.25/5  rDev +6%

TheBeerDad, Jan 21, 2014
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4/5  rDev -0.2%

trevorpost, Jan 20, 2014
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3.75/5  rDev -6.5%

cgrz, Jan 20, 2014
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3.25/5  rDev -19%

CSpoons, Jan 19, 2014
Photo of falloutsnow
2.75/5  rDev -31.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.75

From: Binny's, Champaign, IL
Date: None on bottle, spring 2013 release
Glass: Founders snifter

Founders' Curmudgeon is a rather disappointing old ale, featuring a good, but fairly uncomplicated dark brown caramel-like sweetness with a bit of oak, both of which are rather quickly subsumed by the ethanol content of the beer. The alcohol becomes excessively apparent with warmth, detracting from the overall experience and enjoyment of this beer. I find myself asking, "was this intentional, or just a too-hot and quick fermentation/bottling/shipping schedule?" Founders suggests that this beer is "deceptively smooth and drinkable," on the 4-pack, but I'd heartily disagree. Nowhere near comparable to the effortless smoothness (that is, non-ethanol-detectable) and more complex flavors in, say, Hair of the Dog releases. Not one I'd pick up again.

Pours a 0.5cm tall head of beige-colored, small-sized bubbles, with below average retention of about twenty seconds, barely enough time to register that the head looked a bit frothy. The head fades to a thin ring around the glass, and leaves good lacing, a more than moderate number of large dots cling to the glass' sides. Beer's body is a dark golden orange color, almost brown, with reddish highlights; light brings out brighter golden orange hues with yellow highlights. Carbonation visible through the slightly hazy (20-30% opacity) body, low in number and moderate in activity.

Aroma of fairly heavy caramel-like sweetness, ethanol, and oak, only moderately robust, not nearly as expressive or complex as I was hoping.

The most notable flavors of the beer are heavy/syrupy brown caramel-like sweetness, a touch of toasted bread and oak, and big ethanol, which becomes more apparent the longer the sip lasts in the mouth. The front of the palate tastes moderate oak, medium-strong brown caramel-like sweetness, and light ethanol. Mid-palate detects flavors of strong ethanol, heavy/syrupy brown caramel-like sweetness, a touch of toasted bread and oak, but the somewhat harsh ethanol largely steamrolls the other flavors. Back of palate is largely of heavy/syrupy brown caramel-like sweetness with a bit of oak, which is quite pleasant, but then the ethanol largely obscures this with its flavor and heat. Aftertaste is primarily of ethanol, with a bit of light caramel sweetness hidden in the background.

Beer's body is medium-heavy, with carbonation of medium-low intensity, resulting in a lightly foamy (1/4), mostly smooth (3/4) mouthfeel that is appropriate for sipping a beer of this style. Unfortunately, ethanol is easily felt as heat in the nostrils and across the palate, and as a burning sensation on the throat. Though "only" 9.8% ABV, this feels like a much stronger beer; ethanol not well-hidden. Closes dry, with heavy stickiness lingering on the palate and lips.

falloutsnow, Jan 19, 2014
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3.75/5  rDev -6.5%

davemathews68, Jan 17, 2014
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4.75/5  rDev +18.5%

leprechaunandfatman, Jan 16, 2014
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4.25/5  rDev +6%

VonZipper, Jan 16, 2014
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4.5/5  rDev +12.2%

Eindacor_DS, Jan 15, 2014
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3.75/5  rDev -6.5%

jacothom, Jan 14, 2014
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4.5/5  rDev +12.2%

mattmarka1, Jan 14, 2014
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3.75/5  rDev -6.5%

PopnLoads, Jan 13, 2014
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4/5  rDev -0.2%

jburd19, Jan 13, 2014
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3.75/5  rDev -6.5%

I_BYE_MI_BEER, Jan 12, 2014
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4.5/5  rDev +12.2%

darcange, Jan 12, 2014
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4.75/5  rDev +18.5%

DrewSimm, Jan 11, 2014
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4.25/5  rDev +6%

tviz33, Jan 10, 2014
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3.75/5  rDev -6.5%

bauermj, Jan 09, 2014
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4.25/5  rDev +6%

jscheuf, Jan 08, 2014
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4.64/5  rDev +15.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.5

Poured into tulip; translucent orange red with a moderate white head that fades quickly into a nice layer of foam with a bubble ring.
Smells of nutty sweet malt, raisins, sweet bread, chocolate, molasses, oak, light bourbon, brown sugar, toffee, vanilla.
Taste is soft sweet bread malt, barrel character of oak, bourbon, and vanilla...molasses, brown sugar and some earthy hops ghosting in at the end.
Mouthfeel is smooth and thick and sticky.
Overall, very nice brew as I'd expect from Founders. Malty, los of barrel character, and you'd never know it's 9.8%.

BurgeoningBrewhead, Jan 08, 2014
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4/5  rDev -0.2%

BKBassist, Jan 07, 2014
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1/5  rDev -75.1%

ThatsThatDude, Jan 06, 2014
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4.25/5  rDev +6%

waddellc2, Jan 06, 2014
Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale) from Founders Brewing Company
90 out of 100 based on 3,536 ratings.