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Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale) - Founders Brewing Company

Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)

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rAvg: 4.01
pDev: 10.97%


Brewed by:
Founders Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Old Ale |  9.80% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
50 IBU
Old ale brewed with molasses and oak-aged.

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fitrock2112

Ohio

4.55/5  rDev +13.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Poured Curmudgeon Old Ale into a 9oz snifter

A - Dark reddish hue or burnt orange

S - Candied fruit with sweet booze, some malty goodness on the back end

T - Smooth refined maltiness, some dark fruits , maybe some liquor with wood

M - Again smooth beer with a little alcohol on the mouth but very tasty

O - My go to Old Ale, just awesome beer that I highly recommend on any occasion

Serving type: bottle

09-15-2012 00:44:31 | More by fitrock2112
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fx20736

New York

4.55/5  rDev +13.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

poured from a 12 oz bottle into a pint glass, served at fridge temp.

turbid ochre brown with a one finger khaki head.

cinnamon & sugar overlays toasted malt, like B&M Boston Brown Bread.

mouthfeel: smooth and soft.

taste: malty sweet with honey, dates and cinnamon, atouch of vanilla and some tartness like mango chutney.

notes: damn, this is like Backwoods Dirty Bastard only better, a tasty sipper bursting with flavor and aroma, awesome.

Serving type: bottle

02-28-2013 23:14:09 | More by fx20736
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blodgetm

Michigan

4.58/5  rDev +14.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Founders is one of the few things that makes me glad to live in Grand Rapids. The brewery is absolutely fantastic, and for producing such great beers as this I give them two thumbs up. The brewers at Founders have been working on this brew for a couple years now, finely tweaking it until absolutely perfect to put into a bottle. Well, here it is, Curmudgeon old ale is definately the result of years of planning and tinkering.

A: medium brown and unfiltered

S: definite sweetness to the nose due to the malt bill, but also presence of bourbon and a spice of oak

T: a very complex and malty brew, with high levels of whiskey/bourbon taste and a small amount of maybe anise towards the end

M: wonderful, nice and rich, heavy bodied beer with a fine carbonation

D: I would drink this brew all night if I could, but with the high ABV and price, it gets alittle hard.

I would recommend this beer to anyone who fancies high gravity beer with that fantastic bourbon creme taste

Serving type: bottle

06-06-2006 03:48:54 | More by blodgetm
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tavernjef

Minnesota

4.58/5  rDev +14.2%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A musky glowing russet brown with a slim capping of tanned froth. Keeps a good collar with a few straggly branched arms of lace sticking across the glass.

Astounding aroma of maple, honey, oak soaked bourbon. Heavy, heavy, inviting as hell, warm whiskey tone to this sucker. Wow. Wonderful.

Smooth and warming with a good source of whiskey tones behind some maple, honey, vanilla, and white grape accents. Tenderly toasted malt background but huge in malted girth and warmth of gooey rich and thick caramel, maple, toffee, and minor fruityness all encompassed by one very nice powering warmth of whiskey oaken woodyness. No real finishing qualities however as it slides off the back end with an unwanted speed before the warmth sets in with just a slight backburst of crisp vanilla and left over whiskey wood.

Feel is warm, and more warm, and more warm. Strange how some beers with more then 9.3% seem to have no omff while this screams it. Big, bold, and beautiful; rich, smooth, and full. The only set back is the forementioned finish which is escapingly ghostly and parting in a manner that throws a curve in its overall, powering presence.

Be that as it may, that is what makes this quite a drinkable, dandy treat. For if it were all but power and strength, this would not be as easy to handle and may as well just be whiskey at that point.
A very nice Old Ale. Fulfilling and dreamy.

Serving type: bottle

08-12-2006 02:15:18 | More by tavernjef
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RoyalT

Ohio

4.58/5  rDev +14.2%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Appearance – This is a shiny almost glazy kind of brown in color with a beautiful brown head.

Smell – The big, huge, boozy coconut and stiff oaky barrel must have left stains on the inside of my nose. The malts were broken down well so the wood and fruit really opened up nicely. It is such a unique aroma and nothing like anything else I have ever smelled.

Taste – The sharp oaky coconut from the smell was just as potent at the taste. It is an amazingly smooth liqueresque flavor with a light, dusty taste.

Mouthfeel – This is thinner than medium-bodied but bigger than light. It is incredibly smooth with no stinging sensation whatsoever from the big alcohol.

Drinkability – This went down about as well as a high-ABV beer can.

Comments – Thanks to my good friend and temporary landlord skyhand for putting me up for a few nights while I was in town and feeding me this exceptional dessert.

Serving type: bottle

08-26-2006 01:50:16 | More by RoyalT
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mcallister

Ohio

4.58/5  rDev +14.2%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Aged in my cellar for one year wanted to see how this bad boy was doing and so far it seems to be doing very well.

Very dark caramel colored thick liquid with multitudes of tiny particles wondering aimlessly abound. What small head is there disspates nearly instantly, leaving very little trace lacing.

The nose on this has seemed to multiply in the depth of smell. Immensly complex aromas of coconut milk, coconut, bourbon, pure vanilla, pineapple, cream, caramel, toffee, a odd strawberry quick aroma, prune, layers of dried berries and nut trail mix. I really don't want to drink this as I'd be content just smelling this marvelous brew for the rest of the night.

Smooth is the name of this game. Thick, silky, viscous elixir with a two minute finish. Some bittering hops on the end make you pucker as well as a woodsy bourbony flavor that leaves a wine like tannin. I would say this beer easily has another year in her if not three. Full again of fresh chopped coconut, dried cranberry, white and red raisin, dates, prune, caramel and toffee. A celebration in a glass. Nutty mid palate with a maple brown sugar twist. Have three more of these too sample each of the next three years. Can't wait.

Serving type: bottle

07-10-2007 22:22:52 | More by mcallister
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pmcadamis

Illinois

4.58/5  rDev +14.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Tried this one in Grafton IL with my buddy Joe V.

A - Greyish black in the glass, this one looks like liquid smoke on top of melted tar. That sounds horrid, but I love weird looking brew! This is like some sort of witches brew.

S - Burnt rubber, liquid smoke, doused campfire, and cured meat. This smells extremely interesting... when I ordered this one, I was expecting a barleywine but this is more akin to a rauchbier; albeit with less sausage and jerky notes and more chemical-y smoke aromas. This smells like old wet moldy wood, roofing tar, freshly laid asphalt on a hot summer day. Awesome. I could sniff this for hours.

T - Tobacco, cured ham, Maduro wrapped cigar smoke, some hints of soy sauce, and salmon grilled on a cedar plank. Damn, this is one helluva complex brew!

M - Full bodied, but not as heavy as I would expect for the heavy flavor profile. This is a little too carbonated for what it is, but it feels nice enough.

D - A little too odd to have more than one at a time. This is definitely a weirdo brew for sipping and picking apart all of the crazy rubbery smoke flavors, not pint after pint sessioning.

Serving type: bottle

08-02-2009 14:40:50 | More by pmcadamis
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geexploitation

Indiana

4.6/5  rDev +14.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Pours thick and coffee colored with minimal head. Bright mahogany highlights. Assertive aroma of bourbon-vanilla and chocolate-covered bananas. Sumptuous. Hits the palate with authority. Bourbon, vanilla, bananas again, along with sweet cream and coffee all make appearances. Just a touch of hop bitterness shows up in the finish. Very thick on the palate, as one would expect. Quite rich, flavorful, interesting old ale. Up there with the best of the American microbrewed old ales.

Serving type: bottle

07-17-2006 03:59:27 | More by geexploitation
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neonbrown82

Nebraska

4.6/5  rDev +14.7%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Founders continues to impress me. This beer is amazing. Pours to a nice dark brownish amber, almost black. The head is off-white, and fairly thin. Recedes to a ring and a film, as to be expected from a high gravity old ale.

The smell is awesome. Very complex. Has notes of bourbon, sea salt, black anise, and a nice sweet maltiness.

The flavor is just as great. Starts off with a nice sweet molasses flavor, followed by a brilliant vanilla and oak bourbon flavor. A bit briny, with a sea salt flavor; but unlike other briny old ales I've had, this one doesn't taste the least bit spoiled. None of that soy sauce flavor associated with brininess. Simply amazing

The body is fairly full. Starts off with an intense sweetness but drops off with an intense dry sea salty flavor. Surprisingly little aftertaste. Nonetheless, if I put this beer down for too long, I begin to crave it.

It could stand to be a little more drinkable, but that would probably take away from the wonder that is this beer. Founders is quickly becoming one of my favorite brewers.

Serving type: bottle

07-27-2006 05:19:34 | More by neonbrown82
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WakeandBake

Michigan

4.6/5  rDev +14.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Pours a hazy amber orange with a thin off white head.Aroma of sweet caramel malts ,honey,and some woody tones.Flavor is awesome,malty caramel,sticky honey,rasins,dates spruce, and burbon. Smooth creamy mouthfeel,a little sticky in a good way. Loads of lacing all the way down the glass,a nice warming effect. Very good

Serving type: bottle

12-31-2008 18:07:01 | More by WakeandBake
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Buebie

Minnesota

4.6/5  rDev +14.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle courtasy of Philbe311

Poured from a brown stuby 12 oz bottle into a pub glass. The beer is a super hazy unfilteres little delight. The color is a darker copper, no transparency here. Produceing about an inch of tan whipped topping head.
Slowly reduceing to leave a thin cap of retention and lace rings all the way down.
All the old ale's I've ever had were quite a bit darker then this. I brewed one not to long ago and added black triacle. So to say this does not look like an old ale is kind of an understatement.

It smells like an old ale though...
Soaked whiskey barrel aroma, with an aged leathery aroma too. Huge amounts of malt here, with sweetness to back, unfermented honey, damn, the malts are just so pungeant and delicious smelling. Sourdough bread, butter, some grassy hops with a touch of pine in the distance.

The taste is probably one of the most candy laced malty beers I've come across in a long long time. The malts do a dance on my tounge, hops are present, the hops are not so much fruity, but more of a dry bittering, with plenty of aroma hops coming into effect with the first sip.
That whiskey and oak is also adding some deliciousness to the flavors. Each flavor not overwhelming the other flavors. This is an extremely well balanced brew.
More sourdough breadyness, butter, caramel, lots of hops kicking it up into the swallow, and malt just overwhelming me with joy through it all.
Finishing bitter and yet sweet. Hops linger as does the malt and some of its sweetness. Its a battle of flavors to the end. Each flavor coming out boldly but allowing me to taste all of them and they all linger this way after the swallow.
No hot flavors here, just a slight bit of warmth into the swallow.

It would better fit the Strong ale catagory, but what can you do. I feel like it was mislabled for the style, but its still fantastic. I'm rateing it for what I thought of it overall, not on style. If I were to rate it on style, I'd have to deduct alot of points. But this beer is too good to do that.

This beer is dangerous crazy awsome good!

Serving type: bottle

05-20-2009 20:27:26 | More by Buebie
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t2thebro

Iowa

4.61/5  rDev +15%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

A-medium amber in color very little carbonation.

S- oak, caramel, sweet alcohol. Raisins, ripe apricot.

T- strong alcohol presence, blended with the perfect balance of sweet caramel and spicy hop bitterness.

M- medium heavy body, a bit of a syrupy feel great for this style!
Very drinkable for a big beer.

O- this is the first (old ale) I've had this is the best of what I could have expected.
Big beer, great flavor, very drinkable.

Enjoy!

Serving type: bottle

07-03-2013 04:15:10 | More by t2thebro
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nortmand

Virginia

4.63/5  rDev +15.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Copper pour with a thin off white head.

Resiny hops and whisky dominate the nose.

Sweet through midtongue, ends with a lingering bitter kick and an alcohol burn.

Fantastic old ale, smooth and light carbonation, strange release date, though. Would age nicely.

Serving type: bottle

06-28-2006 01:26:25 | More by nortmand
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Fugazme

Nebraska

4.63/5  rDev +15.5%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Thanks Redhaze!

from notes... I'm finally catching up on these!

Very cloudy brown... tiny head falls to a great cap... looks "thick"

Sweet, sweet licorice/anise with a pine-scented nose... grassy... strawberry... maple... vanilla... touch of wood... quite complex and wonderful. One of the best noses on a beer.

Mouthfeel is thick and almost oily... in a good way.

Malty upfront on the taste... sweet, licorice... honey with a mild hop character.

Another great one from a great brewery...

Serving type: bottle

04-27-2007 16:18:44 | More by Fugazme
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froggyfrog

Pennsylvania

4.63/5  rDev +15.5%
look: 2.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A damn ambrosial old ale...

This gem pours from a dust-covered bottle plucked from the depths of this reviewer's cellar. The twist-off cap pops off with a low hiss under the weight of a BA-branded opener.

Cloudy, make that chunky, brackish brown liquid fills the glass. Gold-yellow swirls edge the deeper brown of the depths. A scummy tannish head proves tough enough to remain present to the end.

Somewhat surprisingly, given the abused-toilet-bowl-look of this beer in a glass, is the distinctive and entirely enticing smell. A lively bouquet of dried fruits, dates and figs is followed closely by a strong spicy alcohol nose and loads and loads of caramel and brown sugar. The intricate aroma also showcases leather and honey, cinnamon and toasted nuts.

Fortunately for those finding themselves quaffing this treat - the flavor delivers on the promises of the nose. Served at cellar temperature, as this bottle was, the flavors come off as caramel-covered raisin and honey-roasted nuts with strong undertones of soft- dried apples and plums.

The beer hits the tongue with a cooling wetness and spreads through the mouth warming with its spicy alcohol as it passes. This rather unique mouthfeel is complex without being sweet, heavy or cloying. There is a subtle bitterness in the finish.

I expected this to be good, yet it was much better than I had hoped. It really shines as a stellar old ale/ English-style barleywine. Don't miss this one.

Serving type: bottle

05-22-2008 05:54:21 | More by froggyfrog
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KickbacksSteve

Florida

4.64/5  rDev +15.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.75

3-4 year old bottle, not much head or lacing. Muddy, tudor brown body. Aroma includes brown sugar, raisin, date, vanilla. Taste includes all of these flavors and a slight hint of alcohol heat. Delicious in every way, one of the best old ales I've had.

Serving type: bottle

08-23-2013 00:55:07 | More by KickbacksSteve
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BurgeoningBrewhead

Pennsylvania

4.64/5  rDev +15.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.5

Poured into tulip; translucent orange red with a moderate white head that fades quickly into a nice layer of foam with a bubble ring.
Smells of nutty sweet malt, raisins, sweet bread, chocolate, molasses, oak, light bourbon, brown sugar, toffee, vanilla.
Taste is soft sweet bread malt, barrel character of oak, bourbon, and vanilla...molasses, brown sugar and some earthy hops ghosting in at the end.
Mouthfeel is smooth and thick and sticky.
Overall, very nice brew as I'd expect from Founders. Malty, los of barrel character, and you'd never know it's 9.8%.

Serving type: bottle

01-08-2014 05:05:42 | More by BurgeoningBrewhead
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lovindahops

New York

4.65/5  rDev +16%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

it snowed today so it's a great reason to tap into a Curmudgeon! Love old ales!

A- curmudgeon pours a fantastic rich copper color with some unexpected lacing on the sides of the glass. The brew glows with the ruby highlights across the glass

S- Get down!!!! It's a MALT BOMB! Sweet sugar from the molasses no doubt pops up along with massive caramel flavors. Brown sugar type theme arises as well. Great whiff of flavor for an old ale

T- WHERE IS THE ALCOHOL??? Unbelievable smooth flavors that consist of the aforementioned sugar and caramel are all over. Some dark raisin and bready flavors tie up the taste profile. This may be the most flavorful old ale I have ever had

M- carbonation and coating of flavor is in a perfect unison. The brew is well crafted to finish well

O- well there is a reason founders is who they are... curmudgeon is an unbelievable brew. Again it is so smooth and lively with flavor that you almost feel like you are drinking a rich amber ale. Unbelievable....

Serving type: bottle

12-03-2011 00:09:48 | More by lovindahops
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ypsifly

Michigan

4.68/5  rDev +16.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Undated 12oz stubby purchased at Merchant's in Dearborn and poured into a pint glass.

Dark crimson under two plus fingers of light tan. Has a falling effect much like Guinness. The head falls to a cm of foam in a couple minutes but it clings tenaciously to the glass and leaves a wispy sheet.

The nose has more wood than any beer I have ever sniffed. Fresh oak with some sweet malt and yeast aromas simillar to Anchor Old Foghorn. Some earth, spice and warmth from the abv in the background. Very interesting.

Full mouth that is a bit slick upfront but washes away clean.

Just like the nose, this has a strong wood flavor with caramel and spicy hops along for the ride. The alcohol comes across as a well integrated pepper yet it doesn't get hot. Some suggestion of scotch or maybe bourbon and a lingering wood and green hop finish. Unique and veryb tasty!

I could see this being a love it or hate it beer. I happen to love it and am glad I picked up a couple four packs.

Serving type: bottle

05-15-2006 04:36:50 | More by ypsifly
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Bouleboubier

Pennsylvania

4.68/5  rDev +16.7%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Why, oh, why has it taken me so long to grab one of these? Heaven knows I've been eying it up long time, coveting it. (sigh) I gotta get a 4-pack of this ole shit.

Pale tawny hue, rich glow, with plenty specks of sediment. That's fine. 1/8" head - gone quick.

Damn wonderful aroma - toffee, caramel, and toasty crystal malt - rich, dense maltiness - with a sweet liqueur booziness pushing it all up into my noseholes, lathering my brain.

Sometimes old ales do, but this doesn't immediately recall a barleywine. Strong British pale all the way. Toffee, booze, sweet dessert wine (not vinous/red/port) highlight the flavors. Assertively malt forward, which is great. And this is the kind of barrel-conditioning I can get behind - the faint essence of oak lingers throughout. Bourbon, be gone!

I don't taste the molasses they mention having included, but it could have certainly contributed to the mouthfeel. Speaking of which, while sporting a micro drop of dry, musty oxidation, is nearly silky smooth, falling quite short of syrupy. Goddamn does it massage the palate while conjuring one of the most soothing warming feelings I've been treated to. The booze is softened expertly by the malt and semi-viscous body. They balanced the shit out of this ale. A winner!

Serving type: bottle

02-13-2011 19:48:42 | More by Bouleboubier
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TheRealBigC

Nevada

4.68/5  rDev +16.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

This was an instant favorite. Almost like a cognac - heavy vanilla and alcohol flavor, but there's more depth than that. A bit of oak and cinnamon, for instance, linger somewhere in there. The bar served it in a rocks glass which was disappointing as a snifter would have been perfect for this ale. I got plenty of enjoyment in the smell as it was, but a snifter likely would have made it even better. I really have to look into more old ales because if they are anything like Curmudgeon, it's a style perfectly tailored to my tastes.

Serving type: on-tap

07-28-2012 21:07:16 | More by TheRealBigC
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Gehrig

Illinois

4.7/5  rDev +17.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

As I perused the frequently aforementioned Neil St. Piccadilly, I wondered aloud to the great manager JD if I had ever tried Curmudgeon Ale, feeling that I had yet somehow not remembering it. "Old Ale with dense raisin and caramel; delicious" was his immediate response. It suddenly dawned on me that I probably had NOT tried it, that although I had seen it so many times with the other great Founders beers displayed, I might simply have thought I had tried it from having seen it so frequently--that sight memory imbricated memory of (not) tasting it.

It came home, it saw my Duvel tulip, and it conquered my palate. Holy wow.

Thin finger of slightly tan foam atop a cloudy brown body; decent lacing, however. Dense nose, rife with raisin and fig, and tons of caramel with a hint of dark chocolate. Splendid.

I cannot rave enough about the taste--reminiscent of barleywine. It has that aged, vaguely musty aroma, ample caramelized sugars that scream boozy rum, but plenty of smooth caramel malt, dried fruit that blends impeccably--at times standing out and at times receding, plus a hint of berry in the finish. Brilliant.

The mouthfeel is a great combination of smooth and rough textures, occasionally funky, bitter, and a little gritty but overall very accessible and smooth. For the style and ABV (9.3%), this is more than a sipper, to me--though it unquestionably packs a punch.

My goodness, I am not sure whether to kick myself for going this long without having tried it, or to be grateful for my having snagged it and embedded it within, rather than presuming its place in, my memory. Just fabulous. Yet again, Founders has justified its ensconced place within my top five breweries around and, with all due respect to the tremendous Bell's, assumed its place in my mind as the best brewery in Michigan. Curmudgeon Ale is truly special, and I am on my way to nailing a couple four-packs for the fridge and the cellar.

A grand achievement.

Serving type: bottle

02-03-2010 19:36:11 | More by Gehrig
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JWU

Pennsylvania

4.7/5  rDev +17.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

12oz bottle poured into my .4L mug.

A- A deep, cloudy amber with hints of orange. Thin white head that retains well.

S- Deep carmel malts, with an almost fruity character

T- Certainly the best part of this brew. Deep maltiness, the sweetness of the molasses is a fantastic flavor mid-sip, hints of chocolate around this point as well. Hops are absolutely perfectly balanced. Gets a bit boozy on the back end and finishes quite like a good whiskey, with oaky notes.

M- much heavier in the mouth than the appearance would suggest, but I really enjoy that part about this brew.

Overall, my favorite "old ale" because the complexities in the taste aren't overrun by the hops, or even by the bitterness (which Founders can do on certain brews) Top notch brew.

Serving type: bottle

08-01-2011 00:34:54 | More by JWU
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Rob315

Kentucky

4.71/5  rDev +17.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

Look: Deep opaque amber with ruby highlights. Thin bone white head turns to ring of foam that sticks around.

Smell: Dark fruits, raisins and berries come to mind, buttered bread, subtle oak and wood notes, sweet caramel and toffee, butterscotch.

Taste: Sweet malt, figs, dark fruits, subtle citrus fruits, orange peel, oak, smokiness, buttery notes. Mouthfeel is very smooth and creamy with crips finish.

Overall: Very smooth, complex and highly drinkable. Can't wait to have this one again.

Serving type: bottle

06-15-2012 17:10:24 | More by Rob315
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kingmaker

Louisiana

4.71/5  rDev +17.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

A: Magohany through and through with a khaki head which dissipates to a thin crown around the glass with some remaining to cover the exposed beer as a thin sheen

S: WOW. This is what I expect of an old ale. Sweet malts, hops, some caramel, the alcohol is completely absent. There's oak but honestly I'd probably miss it in between the malt and hop if I didn't know oak's intricacies.

T: The malt overtakes the hops by far. Rich malts followed by the oak and quickly behind that is the molasses, giving almost a toffee flavor. Again, no alcohol, even subtlety.

M: Medium, bordering on full with good carbonation. Very smooth and lingers on the tongue well after its gone.

O: I'm going to have to hide the other 3 bottles before I drink them warm. This was a great beer, highly complex with the addition of the oak. I'm disappointed that I let this one slip into the fold when I was the the NYC craft beerfest a couple weeks ago and instead focused solely on the KBS so much so that the server knew my name. This beer is an understated powerhouse.

Serving type: bottle

04-10-2013 04:59:37 | More by kingmaker
Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale) from Founders Brewing Company
90 out of 100 based on 2,888 ratings.