Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale) - Founders Brewing Company

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Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)

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Ratings: 4,138
Reviews: 1,200
rAvg: 4.02
pDev: 10.45%
Wants: 173
Gots: 897 | FT: 53
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Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Old Ale |  9.80% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 08-31-2005

Old ale brewed with molasses and oak-aged.

50 IBU
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Ratings: 4,138 | Reviews: 1,200
Photo of Boodoggy
4.23/5  rDev +5.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from 12oz bottle into Lost Abbey Tulip.

Hazy deep amber, cooper in color. Thin quickly disapating head with minimal lacing.

Strong and sweet. I am getting honey and sweet dark fruit, toffee perhaps some caramel in the back.

I love the taste. Sweet and malty. This really follows through with the nose. Alcohol is present hops are taking a back seat on this one.

Thicker then expected. Malty and sweet. This is a sipper to be enjoyed on a cool evening.

Overall I really liked this beer. It delivered what it claimed to be on the label.

Photo of discovolante65
4.23/5  rDev +5.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into my Duvel Tulip in an aggressive manner. Got a nice 1 inch head out of the deal. Lots of little floaties in here. Had to leave a splash in the bottle so I could swirl out the rest. I love crap floating in my beer, I really do. Nice honey brown color. Head that I forced out of it receded quickly but left a nice collar and lacing all the way down. Not too much, but some carbonation in there.

Smells like bourbon? WTF? I'm not sure. I smell some alcohol but it could be mixed with the other scents in there. Caramel, vanilla and possibly oak smells in there as well. definitely cherries, or a fig smell. It sort of had a cinnamon/raisin oatmeal smell to it.

Tastes big and strong. Nice caramel/ malt balance with some raisins and cherries in there. I was surprised to find that the first few sips while cold were very hot with alcohol. But as it warmed up it seemed to balance out, this is usually the opposite I think. After it warmed it balanced out perfectly. This reminded me a little of a scotch ale, and I love that.

I loved the way this felt. Thick, like a 40w oil viscosity. Chunky enough to chew on, but not oily and lingering. Very smooth and decadent.

Drinkability - I felt this one, and it was the only one I had. Had it been a weekend night I would have had more than one. I think this is a great representation of the style, maybe a little tiny bit too sweet though. All in All, I am happy to have several more of these to enjoy in the future. Another good one by Founders.

Photo of webmanspidey
4.23/5  rDev +5.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

Pours a red / caramel / amber color. A sweet malty smell. Can detect the alcohol in the smell. Crisp clean taste.. fairly balanced but actually on the bitter side. Fairly bitter finish but not overwhelming. For its strength, this is very drinkable and smooth.

Photo of sdwchef
4.23/5  rDev +5.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Very sweet with molasses. Great mouth feel.

Photo of SolipsismalCat
4.23/5  rDev +5.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a snifter.

A: Slightly hazy red-brown with a one-finger, off-white, creamy and foamy head that lasted several minutes. Nice lacing.

S: Dark fruit, alcohol, and oak.

T: Moderate sweetness and light bitterness. Oak and vanilla, then alcohol.

M: Medium bodied with soft carbonation. Smooth, warm, and alcoholic.

O: This beer looks really nice in my snifter. And the oak and vanilla taste is interesting. I don't have much experience with old ales, but I like this one.

Photo of russpowell
4.24/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Cheers to czoch75 for this one! Thanks Clint, enjoying this as the Saints/Bears game goes to OT!

Pours an effervescent caramel with some sand colored head. Average lacing & head retention

S: Superb oaky bourbon notes, then a a whiff of dirt??

T: Bourbon soaked toffee, some caramel & a bit of smokeyness up front. Dryness dominates as this warms, along with boozey butterscotch & marmalade, vanilla & drambuie (sic). Finishes with some boozey oak, & butterscotch

MF: Medium bodied, moderate carbonation & some stickyness, thickens up as it warms

Drinks pretty easy, considering the style, ABV & dryness. This was on the verge of greatness, but needed more body or aging to pull it together

Photo of oelergud
4.24/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Chubby 12oz brown glass bottle with a twist off cap and a label showing what I assume is a curmudgeon. 9.8 abv per the label.
Nice ruby body with next to no head, on agitation a tan cramy head appears briefly hence no lace.
Very inviting scent. Sweet malts with vanilla and a note of scotch, alcohol and wood.
Creamy vanilla hoppy flavor with plenty of wood notes, very nice flavor again with scotch notes. The aftertaste is long lasting and full of vanilla wood.
Medium full body with good coating and a nice sticky feel from residual sugars.
Excellent drinkability, far from your run of the mill craft beer. This ale will make any old curmudgeon crack a grin.

-Oelergud

Photo of The_Dude_710
4.24/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

2013 vintage draft fill of a 32oz growler poured into goblets. Smell is Carmel and alcohol very pleasant tho. Look is a golden amber, lingering head. Beautiful beer. Taste is oaky, Carmely, and booze, it's great! It's a heavy beer at 9.8% abv. One of my favorite founders beers I've acquired to date.

Photo of Jade
4.24/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured a bottle of Curmudgeon in a brandy snifter.

A - Light amber color, cloudy (unable to see through) with very little head. Bubbles fizzing up on the sides of the glass.

S - Yum! Caramel, candy malts with hints of molasses and a sour smell of sorts

T - Very malty. Bitter backend, drying on the tongue. Oak and caramalized malts. Gets better as it warms...gets sweeter and tastier more in line with the smell.

M - Medium thick, with litlle carbonation feel. Not the smoothest beer.

O - A decent old ale. A nice sipper, but not my favorite style. Definitely worth a try. Relax and enjoy on a cold evening!

Photo of 404UGA
4.24/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

I was slightly disappointed when pouring this beer into the glass, as it had a small, fleeting head and was a clear reddish color. After beginning to sip, however, my disappointment left about as quickly as the beer's head. The beer smelled had a pleasant, alcohol laden smell. Kind of had a hint of whiskey to it. The taste is maltier than I expected given the color, but its not overwhelming. Again, kind of reminds me of a good bourbon. It isn't the smoothest beer in world, but is still pleasant. Very drinkable, and overall a great beer. Would gladly have another.

Photo of ChadQuest
4.24/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Beer like this is the reason snifters exist in the beer world.

After pouring into my snifter the half finger of head reduced in short time to a ring around the edge, but not before releaseing an impecable aroma.

Throughout the tasting i swirled the glass often just for the aroma.
The aroma lets you know right away that this will give you a bit of heat. i love that.

The sips are sooo smooth, with that bit of heat the smell warned you of, though the smell was a bit stronger.
The Oak and vanilla flavors aren't overpowering,but balanced nicely with the malt and low hop flavors.

When drinking this i kept thinking it would be a great beer for somebody who loves Cognac, with its bit of hotness, sweetness,loads of flavor, and smooth mouthfeel. This beer is what i personally want from an drink Old Ale, as i like a little hotness. I will buy this often.

Photo of emerge077
4.25/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

^That is a beautiful picture ^
Aged bottle, first release? 12oz. shared with kmpitz2, thanks!

It pours a tawny reddish brown, murky with suspended particles. Light gets through a little bit. Some spotty lace is left, and at the very least a ring around the edge.

Aroma is mellow, sweet toffee and caramel, I can tell this is a beefy one. As it warms, more depth is apparent.

Toffee flavors, with an oak nuance behind it. Very cohesive and mellowed, it doesn't feel alcoholic at all. Caramel and wood, sturdy and balanced. Age has worked wonders on this beast. Rich and fairly well carbonated, it has a divine feel to it. Seek it out...

Photo of Greywulfken
4.25/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Dropped a bottle of this into a Duvel snifter.

A: Looks like heavy apple cider.

S: thick, rich, spicy, orange and alcohol

T: Reminded me of some brews from Unibroue (Maudite, Don de Dieu) but a little heavier/more dense and without the yeastiness; fruity caramels with booze

M: medium-bodied, very drinkable; great aftertaste

O: I miss it since its gone; this is a great beer for slow drinking (preferably near the sea). One of the least barleywine-ish old ales I've had - almost has some Imperial IPA and tripel qualities.

Think deeply of the ocean and keep a four-pack in a cooler as the waves lap the shores at night. Be one with the seas and stars.

Photo of bevoduz
4.25/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

I bought a few 4 packs of this several years and wasn't too impressed, but I held on to them, and am I glad I did! Several months ago I opened up a 2011 and was very happy I did. I actually had to fish the bottle out of the trash to make sure it was the beer I thought I had just opened. Fortunately it was still readily available on the shelves so I picked up a few more, knowing I'd then be able to enjoy them in a few years!

Photo of bushbeer75
4.25/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

12 oz brown bottle poured into a snifter- no date on label

Founder's Curmudgeon Ale poured opaque dark amber [almost like dark apple cider] that produced a limited almost non-existent head. The aroma is of dark malt and fruits, with some caramel coming through. The flavor was heavier than the smell. The taste is sweet; of rum soaked dark fruits, a little smoky with a slight burnt after taste. The flavor really develops as this ale gets closer to room temperature...so don't drink it too cold. Mouth feel is smooth and a little sticky with light carbonation.

A Curmudgeon is defined as a crusty, ill-tempered stubborn old man that finds fault with all things. I tried being a Curmudgeon [as I have been known to act like on occasion] when I reviewed this ale; however, I could not find any faults when I reviewed the brew.

A good sipper for a nightcap - goes well paired with chocolate cookies.

Photo of stumac
4.25/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

this brew pours up a cloudy amber color with a nice thin layer of yellow-tan head. great lacing, baby. the nose is subtle chocolate chip cookies, a little yeast, mint, sweet malts. the taste is the same as the nose. yeast, caramel, hop bitterness in the finish, buttery, delicious. leaves a sticky coating in your mouth. medium carbo, low low carbo. good ol' Founders...

Photo of BadmouthBrews
4.25/5  rDev +5.7%

draft from flying saucer in Nashville.
Pours a dark caramel color, kind of like maple syrup. Which makes sense because it is brewed with maple. You can smell it and taste it. Great complexity and smooth tasting for such a high abv.

Photo of currysage1
4.25/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Served in a Harpoon Leviathan glass (tulip?), cellar temp aged for 6 months.

Look is a really deep orange topped with a short lived off white head that drops to a ring and a wisp, alcohol makes this understandable.

Smell is brown sugar mixed with dark rum, allspice, clove, black pepper.

Taste is chocolate that gives way quickly to the molasses chewyness, a good level of hop bite, almost a plant like quality, almost like dried grass, theres that dark rum again.

Feel is pretty spot on for an Old, dense full slightly oily mouthfeel with low carbonation from the extended fermentation and high alcohol. Would certainly have again but one at a time. They definately keep the alcohol under wraps on this one.

Photo of magpieken
4.25/5  rDev +5.7%

355ml bottle. Pours an amber colour with a moderate densely packed, tan head. Excellent retention and good lace. Aroma of malt, caramel, raisins, oaky whisky. A lot going on in this one. A nice level of sweetness with some dry bitterness in the finish. Full body, soft carbonation, smooth yet sticky texture and soothing level of alcohol warmth. Grab a good novel, your smoking jacket and relax in comfy chair with this one.

Photo of demcorhip
4.25/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Appearance
A toffee coloured ale, a vigourous pour only resulted in a thin tan coloured head. Very mildly carbonated, and virtually no lacings. Not surprising considering the style and the alcohol content.

Aroma
Big buttery toffee nose, pecan praline, alcohol, and a mild earthy spice all combine to get me pumped about this brew. Smells great!

Taste
Yup theres lots of buttery diacetyl here. Be warned, dont try this one if its a turn off to you. Big backbone of buttery toffee and a touch of treacle, the creamy pecan praline is also there, and its all complimented by the hint of earthy hop spice.

Mouthfeel
A rich, decadent, and warming due the alcohol, treat. A full bodied ale that while almost syrupy manages to avoid being cloying. Lots of rich flavours complimenting each other quite nicely in this old ale.

Drinkability
I found this to be a very drinkable, very rich, big ale. The big body and waming effect due to the alcohol make this a perfect choice for a cool winter night. May be a little too rich to be sessionable, but might be fun to try! Will definately be enjoying this tasty treat again.

Photo of pschul4
4.25/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Poured from 12oz into my Revolution taster

A- Pours something darker than orange but lighter than brown. Khaki head leaves excellent lacing

S- Some malts and booze, not much coming through here

T- This is like malt juice, in the best way possible. You'll have to try it to understand. Booze is much more subdued in the taste

M- Silky smooth, dare I say perfect

O- Best old ale I've ever had. Period

Photo of srandycarter
4.25/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A - Pours dark honey, small lace, small head...not much head.

S - Caramel sweet. Hoppy outskirt.

T - Yum. Big caramel center, somewhat harsh alcohol burn, bitter hops do their job.

M - Medium bodied, good card, pretty perfect balance.

D - I really like this one. Can't believe I have not reviewed before.

Photo of BlackBelt5112203
4.25/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

12 oz bottle poured into a pint glass at cellar temperature.

L - Medium amber color with a 2-finger bubbly cream-colored head. Really good retention and excellent lacing. Clear with lots of bubbles - more carbonation than I was expecting.

S - Lots going on here. Toasted and caramel malts, molasses, dark fruits like cherries and plums, raisins, and some chocolate, vanilla, and woody aromas. Maybe a touch of alcohol noticeable.

T - Sweet with flavors of caramel malts, dark fruits, molasses and vanilla. Finishes with a woody and alcoholic dryness.

F - Medium-bodied with good carbonation, a creamy and mouth-coating feel, and a very dry, almost astringent finish. Woody dryness lingers and complements the drying and throat-warming sensation brought on by the alcohol.

O - This beer was delicious and an awesome example of an old ale. It tastes and smells great with a variety of malt and dark fruity ester aromas and flavors. The molasses and oak-aging really add a lot of flavors, aromas, and character to this beer in my opinion. Another great offering from Founders.

Photo of brdc
4.25/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Thanks hoppymeal for this one; small capped bottle, poured into a snifter.

Fairly dark amber, with glowing, reddish highlights, very little light tan head, some surface coating on its way down.
Aroma is boozy, caramels soaked in port wine, dark fruits. Not very strong.
Full bodied, vinous, feels like a port wine and frequently tastes like one. It also nice waves of bitterness and sweetness, with a propensity towards sweet; caramel, toffee, raisins, lots of warming alcohol, spiciness likely coming from this alcohol that if it not well hidden, it is pleasant.

A very good old ale, not my favorite, but quite close.

Photo of benito
4.25/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

This is a fascinating brew. A still, bright amber with virtually no head and a bouquet full of vanilla, bourbon, and alcohol. Curmudgeon has a strong coconut and vanilla flavor that is balanced by a bourbon-alcohol sting and a peppery dryness on the back of the tongue.

The interplay of flavors is exceptional, and they come together to create an overall character that is slick, fruity, and very heavy-hitting. This is a beer to sip and a fine complement to a big Thanksgiving (or other holiday) dinner.

Highly recommended; this is one of the most complex Founders beers I've had--and that says a lot.

Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale) from Founders Brewing Company
90 out of 100 based on 4,138 ratings.