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Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale) - Founders Brewing Company

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Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)

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90
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3,614 Ratings
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Ratings: 3,614
Reviews: 1,105
rAvg: 4.01
pDev: 10.97%
Wants: 140
Gots: 682 | FT: 47
Brewed by:
Founders Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Old Ale |  9.80% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
50 IBU
Old ale brewed with molasses and oak-aged.

(Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 08-31-2005)
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Photo of mattreitz49
4/5  rDev -0.2%

mattreitz49, Mar 31, 2014
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4.5/5  rDev +12.2%

hopkrid, Apr 29, 2013
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4/5  rDev -0.2%

browniewithnuts, Apr 18, 2013
Photo of Camjmorton
4/5  rDev -0.2%

Camjmorton, Jun 06, 2014
Photo of deereless
4.05/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A: The color of a coppery peach juice, lots of floating particles, minimal head - 4.00, S: Lots of heavy and ripe fruits, smell of prune juice, aromatically sweet from a solid malt base but with some noticeable earthy to herbal hops - 4.25, T: Hearty malt base coupled with a decent hop bite, though you sense the alcohol it is very nicely veiled, tastes like a rum soaked fruitcake that is heavy on the raisins - 4.25, M: Quite creamy and medium bodied - 4.50, D: I shouldn't be surprised given the other Founder's beers I've sampled - but this is a nicely crafted beer and one I would drink again - 4.00

deereless, Jan 29, 2009
Photo of kingmaker
4.71/5  rDev +17.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

A: Magohany through and through with a khaki head which dissipates to a thin crown around the glass with some remaining to cover the exposed beer as a thin sheen

S: WOW. This is what I expect of an old ale. Sweet malts, hops, some caramel, the alcohol is completely absent. There's oak but honestly I'd probably miss it in between the malt and hop if I didn't know oak's intricacies.

T: The malt overtakes the hops by far. Rich malts followed by the oak and quickly behind that is the molasses, giving almost a toffee flavor. Again, no alcohol, even subtlety.

M: Medium, bordering on full with good carbonation. Very smooth and lingers on the tongue well after its gone.

O: I'm going to have to hide the other 3 bottles before I drink them warm. This was a great beer, highly complex with the addition of the oak. I'm disappointed that I let this one slip into the fold when I was the the NYC craft beerfest a couple weeks ago and instead focused solely on the KBS so much so that the server knew my name. This beer is an understated powerhouse.

kingmaker, Apr 10, 2013
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4/5  rDev -0.2%

Archemedies, Oct 02, 2012
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4/5  rDev -0.2%

JimGlonke, Mar 29, 2013
Photo of mikepcarney
4.5/5  rDev +12.2%

mikepcarney, Jun 20, 2014
Photo of bmjivi221
4.5/5  rDev +12.2%

bmjivi221, Jul 17, 2013
Photo of JamesStreet
3.75/5  rDev -6.5%

JamesStreet, May 11, 2014
Photo of SPLITGRIN
3.65/5  rDev -9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours beautiful with an inch and a half of light tan head with foamy bubbles and nice retention. Body is a ruby brown mix that beckons to be drank. Nose has a nice combination of toasted almonds, rum, and dark fruits equaling a very robust feel. Enters the mouth with a resin like nutty oak character. Dark ripe fruits appear on the back of the tongue. Slight spicyness sparkles on the tailend of the palate. A rich spicey thick mouthfeel is the result. Sweetness is all over this beer and it is very bold with a smokey feel. Alchol is well hidden but the belly tells you it is there. Drinkability is decent.

SPLITGRIN, Feb 24, 2008
Photo of ChugginOil
4.38/5  rDev +9.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

This one pours a dark honey-brown color with a fingers worth of off white colored head. Leaves walls of lacing as the head dissipates. The nose brings notes of bready, dark, caramel and sweet malts with the high ABV well masked. The taste follows the nose quite closely here. Sweet caramel, roasted toffee, bready malts. 0 hop characteristics. No bitterness. The mouthfeel is creamy and fulfilling as it coats the palate.

Bottom Line: This brew is very well balanced and offers some great sweet tastes that aren't seen in many other brews. The intensity and richness make this one a sipper but with the superbly masked ABV, this can be hard to do. I do wish it was cheaper but you get what you pay for 10 fold here with Curmedgeon.

ChugginOil, Feb 11, 2011
Photo of bnes09
3.88/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

This is my first old ale so I'm really not sure what to think going in. It pours a translucent orangish brown color with a creamy white head. Good head retention and some dots of lace.

Emits lots in intriguing aromas. Alcohol spice with a distinctive scotch quality. Sweet and caramely with just a touch of hops in the nose.

Flavors are even more complex. The most prominent is the hugely dynamic sweetness. I can honestly describe it as honey, caramel, brown sugar, maple and a touch of molasses each appearing at different times during the same sip. Hints of toffee and almond come to mind as well. There is a strange underlying flavor here that is very hard to pick out, it almost tastes like buttery, eggy, sugary cookie-dough, different but not necessarily bad. Mild piney and floral hops fight to be noticed. Solid alcohol spice dominates the finish and warms the throat.

Sticky on the tongue with a full-bodied, slightly syrupy mouthfeel. Fairly low carbonation, which seems to fit well.

One of the most interesting beers I have tried to date. It was bottled in 02/2010 giving it about 8 months to age. I would like to try it again both fresh and after aging at least 12 months. Enormous amount of malt flavor and aroma while hops do a nice job of keeping it interesting without dominating the senses. This one is definitely worth a try.

bnes09, Oct 25, 2010
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3.5/5  rDev -12.7%

ChrisPro, Dec 10, 2011
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4.25/5  rDev +6%

jayhunter357, May 05, 2013
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3.75/5  rDev -6.5%

Mikeypnh, Jul 05, 2014
Photo of JDizzle
3.48/5  rDev -13.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours a dark auburn that looks pretty damn good. Not much head, but lacing is good.

The aroma is underwhelming.... Not much gong on here but sweet malt. vanilla, alcohol, and carmel.

Not what I was hoping for. Really comes off like a Belgian?? I got a little oakiness, but it's not overwhelming. I get a little vanilla with a some dark fruits and that's about it. OK

Mouthfell is solid and fairly thick. Carbonation is low and that's OK for this style.

Not a homerun, but a decent beer I won't seek out again. There are too many other beers out there for the price.

JDizzle, Aug 08, 2012
Photo of ONUMello
3.63/5  rDev -9.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle poured into a pint glass.
A: Burnt orange color; 1/2 finger head that quickly dissipates.
S: Toasted malt, caramel; improves dramatically as it warms, more fruit especially prunes come out.
T: Initial caramel and toffee notes lead into raisin/prune.
M: It may be influence from reading other notes, but this does almost come across as liquid gelatin. Hard to describe- not thick or thin, light or heavy, pleasant or off-putting.
O: Without looking through my notes to be sure, I think this is my first old ale. I will search for more in this style, and am glad I tried this, but personally this particular bottle is not for me.

ONUMello, Aug 24, 2011
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4/5  rDev -0.2%

pjs234, Jul 14, 2012
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3.5/5  rDev -12.7%

Boston_Steve, Jun 25, 2014
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4.75/5  rDev +18.5%

HamGlade10, May 13, 2014
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4/5  rDev -0.2%

dalepryor, Dec 15, 2013
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3/5  rDev -25.2%

Stevie_Janowski, Dec 09, 2012
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4/5  rDev -0.2%

Zetcha7x, May 09, 2014
Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale) from Founders Brewing Company
90 out of 100 based on 3,614 ratings.