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Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale) - Founders Brewing Company

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Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)

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BA SCORE
90
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3,696 Ratings
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Ratings: 3,696
Reviews: 1,110
rAvg: 4.02
pDev: 10.95%
Wants: 142
Gots: 708 | FT: 46
Brewed by:
Founders Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Old Ale |  9.80% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
50 IBU
Old ale brewed with molasses and oak-aged.

(Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 08-31-2005)
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Photo of Roguer
3.59/5  rDev -10.7%
look: 2 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Pre-aged 2+ years; thanks store!

Or perhaps not...

Very murky, dark caramel appearance. Some floaties, virtually no head...although a little fizz did appear eventually.

Strong caramel, oak, and vanilla aroma. I don't think this is oak-aged, but the aroma is similar, regardless.

Sweet, strong, and boozy. Huge hints of caramel and toffee, and more mellow lines of oak and vanilla. Definitely boozy.

If this beer has suffered, mouthfeel - along with appearance - is where it shows. It's mostly flat, with little liveliness or sting. Pretty boozy, too.

Despite the age and flatness, this is a pretty damn tasty beer! I can imagine what it's like when it's on and dialed in. I may not be particularly impressed this time around, but I'm impressed enough that I will certainly try it again.

Roguer, Jul 07, 2014
Photo of pjs234
4/5  rDev -0.5%

pjs234, Jul 14, 2012
Photo of bmjivi221
4.5/5  rDev +11.9%

bmjivi221, Jul 17, 2013
Photo of kingmaker
4.71/5  rDev +17.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

A: Magohany through and through with a khaki head which dissipates to a thin crown around the glass with some remaining to cover the exposed beer as a thin sheen

S: WOW. This is what I expect of an old ale. Sweet malts, hops, some caramel, the alcohol is completely absent. There's oak but honestly I'd probably miss it in between the malt and hop if I didn't know oak's intricacies.

T: The malt overtakes the hops by far. Rich malts followed by the oak and quickly behind that is the molasses, giving almost a toffee flavor. Again, no alcohol, even subtlety.

M: Medium, bordering on full with good carbonation. Very smooth and lingers on the tongue well after its gone.

O: I'm going to have to hide the other 3 bottles before I drink them warm. This was a great beer, highly complex with the addition of the oak. I'm disappointed that I let this one slip into the fold when I was the the NYC craft beerfest a couple weeks ago and instead focused solely on the KBS so much so that the server knew my name. This beer is an understated powerhouse.

kingmaker, Apr 10, 2013
Photo of gueuzegossage
3.75/5  rDev -6.7%

gueuzegossage, Jul 01, 2013
Photo of jakea
4/5  rDev -0.5%

jakea, Oct 18, 2013
Photo of JDizzle
3.48/5  rDev -13.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours a dark auburn that looks pretty damn good. Not much head, but lacing is good.

The aroma is underwhelming.... Not much gong on here but sweet malt. vanilla, alcohol, and carmel.

Not what I was hoping for. Really comes off like a Belgian?? I got a little oakiness, but it's not overwhelming. I get a little vanilla with a some dark fruits and that's about it. OK

Mouthfell is solid and fairly thick. Carbonation is low and that's OK for this style.

Not a homerun, but a decent beer I won't seek out again. There are too many other beers out there for the price.

JDizzle, Aug 08, 2012
Photo of Jordy777
4/5  rDev -0.5%

Jordy777, Nov 16, 2013
Photo of laxer8811
4.5/5  rDev +11.9%

laxer8811, Apr 16, 2012
Photo of utopiajane
3.8/5  rDev -5.5%

utopiajane, Oct 22, 2014
Photo of JimGlonke
4/5  rDev -0.5%

JimGlonke, Mar 29, 2013
Photo of lunarbrew
4.25/5  rDev +5.7%

lunarbrew, Apr 11, 2013
Photo of bjohnson
4.47/5  rDev +11.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours a dark amber color with a thin one finger off white head that dissipates quickly leaving only a tight circle of skim in the center of the glass and a nice soft looking rim around the edge. Some floaties, but I don't mind. Licorice and butterscotch notes. Earthy, woody, and spicy. Aged in bourbon barrels? Bourbon notes are actually quite strong, but not boozy. Vanilla aromas also are present.

Vanilla and dark fruit notes (figs and raisins) are the first to cross the taste buds. Bourbon barrel notes are noticeable but subtle like. Coconut flavors with a sweet softness. Citrus fruit notes aren't very big, but are noticeable as the brew warms up a bit. Nice spicy alcohol laden thickness, like that of a cloud, emanates from the walls of the mouth. Smooth mouthfeel. Booze is very present, but not the main player--it's big, but still subdued. An interesting and complex brew. One that I'm thankful for getting the chance to try.

bjohnson, Apr 02, 2007
Photo of sansho
4/5  rDev -0.5%

sansho, Sep 30, 2014
Photo of Burkbom23
4.25/5  rDev +5.7%

Burkbom23, Feb 10, 2014
Photo of Hendrick24
4/5  rDev -0.5%

Hendrick24, Jul 17, 2014
Photo of dbossman
4.03/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: A fairly deep red hue with a thin head that has decent retention before falling to a thin film ;lacing is very intricate and delicate

S: The aromas begin rather subdued and seemingly simple: some faintly toasted malts, subtle herbal and grassy hops and then the aromas seem to come alive--cinnamon, nutmeg, vanilla, caramel, bourbon, figs, raisins, maple syrup, brown sugar; it is still somewhat subtle and not in-your-face but it is still quite complex

T: The spiciness is the first thing I notice: cinnamon, nutmeg, etc. on top of a dark fruity backbone--raisins, figs, etc.; lots of subtle boozy, semi-sweet undertones from the maltiness; it does end up being balanced in the finish but the spiciness is a tad overwhelming on the onset

F: Medium body with some residual stickiness that gives the body more texture

O: I really like this beer though I want to see what a couple of years will do to mellow some of the spicing and molasses flavors

dbossman, Jul 25, 2012
Photo of Archemedies
4/5  rDev -0.5%

Archemedies, Oct 02, 2012
Photo of BUNZILLA
4/5  rDev -0.5%

BUNZILLA, May 18, 2013
Photo of tedho21
4.5/5  rDev +11.9%

tedho21, Apr 21, 2013
Photo of ChugginOil
4.38/5  rDev +9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

This one pours a dark honey-brown color with a fingers worth of off white colored head. Leaves walls of lacing as the head dissipates. The nose brings notes of bready, dark, caramel and sweet malts with the high ABV well masked. The taste follows the nose quite closely here. Sweet caramel, roasted toffee, bready malts. 0 hop characteristics. No bitterness. The mouthfeel is creamy and fulfilling as it coats the palate.

Bottom Line: This brew is very well balanced and offers some great sweet tastes that aren't seen in many other brews. The intensity and richness make this one a sipper but with the superbly masked ABV, this can be hard to do. I do wish it was cheaper but you get what you pay for 10 fold here with Curmedgeon.

ChugginOil, Feb 11, 2011
Photo of ToddHolder
3.75/5  rDev -6.7%

ToddHolder, May 11, 2013
Photo of BeerCon5
4/5  rDev -0.5%

BeerCon5, May 28, 2013
Photo of ChrisPro
3.5/5  rDev -12.9%

ChrisPro, Dec 10, 2011
Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale) from Founders Brewing Company
90 out of 100 based on 3,696 ratings.