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Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale) - Founders Brewing Company

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Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)

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Ratings: 3,285
Reviews: 1,083
rAvg: 4.01
pDev: 10.97%
Wants: 123
Gots: 582 | FT: 42
Brewed by:
Founders Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Old Ale |  9.80% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
50 IBU
Old ale brewed with molasses and oak-aged.

(Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 08-31-2005)
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Photo of tzieser


3.83/5  rDev -4.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 2

Got this on tap @ sunset grill and tap in Brighton.

Poured a deep dark brown with a very small head that simmered into almost no lacing

Smelled extremely malty and oak-y. Extreme malt smells, with some hints of alcohol. Hops are practically non-existent

Tastes great. I don't have much experience with Old Ales (save for Ola Dubh), but I'd imagine they would taste very similar to this. Very, very malty...probably caramal malts that have turned into a very unique taste with age....very very woody, oak-y taste dominates the pallate. No hops here. I liked the old flavor very much. It tastes musty-- like an old attic would smell like (if you could imagine). The 10% abv is well-hidden by the way

Mouthfeel was good, a little oily, but I'd imagine thats what the style is supposed to be

drinkability is pretty bad. the beer tastes great, i just could'nt imagine coming back for more....especially at 8.99 a 13ouncer

Overall- I was gonna get this, but at 15 bucks a 4 pack-- I backed off. I had to get it when I saw it on tap. I'd say definitely get it if you see it on tap, but don't bother getting a 4 pack....unless you love old ales...

Serving type: on-tap

08-05-2009 16:06:16 | More by tzieser
Photo of Alextricity


4.1/5  rDev +2.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Bottled 2/06/14 and poured 4/15/14. $3.49 a single.

Appearance: Pours a "quiet" red/orange color with a nice off-white head and lacing at the start.

Smell: Wow. Dark fruits, barrel, molasses sweetness, oak... just as I expected from the label and style. There's also a slight hint of booze as well.

Taste/feel: Just looking at it in the glass, it looks sweet. That's probably just because I know there's molasses in it though. This beer is sweetsweetsweet, which you should figure if you know the style, see that this beer is brewed with molasses, or see that the IBUs are "only" 50 IBUs. Molasses, candied dark fruits, oak, rich and heavy caramel malts with a bit of a toasted malt aftertaste with an underlying subtle bitterness to keep it from being sickly sweet. Just looking at it in the glass should give you an idea of how it feels. Very mild carbonation with a pretty full body. Some would call it "flat", but it's a mild carbonation that I'm liking for this beer. Also, the body is big, but it's not to the point where it's syrupy/cloying. Then again, the nice depth of flavor also helps that. Don't get me wrong, it IS a very sweet beer, but it's not a chore to drink by any means. 9.8% is hidden perfectly as well.

Overall, an incredibly tasty choice for those who dig a big, bold, malty, sweet beer. It may not be something that I'd personally drink very often (I'm already a "ticker" as it is...), but there is absolutely no denying that this is a phenomenal beer that warrants a try to any beer aficionado. I may go buy myself another single just to see how this thing ages. It is sweet as hell, but it is equally as tasty.

Serving type: bottle

04-15-2014 21:30:25 | More by Alextricity
Photo of stewart124


4.53/5  rDev +13%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

Hazy amber in color with orange hues and lots of sediment. The head is small and doesn't linger.

Stong smells of caramel and I pick up a bit of cinnamon. There are also slight hints of the alcohol to come.

Very spicy with the first taste but this just mellows out as the beer warms and this just melts on my tongue. The mouthfeel and the after taste are just amazing; lots of caramel and a sweet malt/bready character.

There is a toffee and sweet caramel note in the finish which is great. The alcohol is subtle. This is really a nice beer.

Serving type: bottle

04-10-2009 01:39:11 | More by stewart124
Photo of wdarcy77


3.5/5  rDev -12.7%

03-16-2013 19:55:59 | More by wdarcy77
Photo of wyatt13


4.06/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2013 vintage. Poured from a 12 oz. bottle into my Half Acre snifter.

A - Pours a syrupy reddish-brown, with a half-finger head of off-white foam. The bubbles quickly fizzle down to a thin ring around the outside of the glass.

S - A good hit of oak character right at the front of the nose, with a nice sweetness of brown sugar and caramel to supplement. The molasses comes through a bit, although I'm not sure that I would be able to identify it as such if it didn't say so on the bottle.

T - Huge oak presence right away, but then the honeyed sweetness steps up and really brings the whole brew into a nice balance. There is a bit of lingering heat that has a nice warming aspect for several seconds after the sip.

M - Medium-full mouthfeel, with more carbonation than was evident in the appearance.

O - A very nice brew, that certainly lives up to the description of an "old ale brewed with molasses and oak aged." The old ale characteristics, molasses flavors and oak presence are all there in a nice harmonized way. I'd be interested to see how this develops with age.

Serving type: bottle

04-23-2013 19:21:31 | More by wyatt13
Photo of mscudder


3.58/5  rDev -10.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Grabbed on fresh made for the summer of 2012. Poured into a schooner.

A - Cloudy amber with a thin pale head that leaves some nice lacing. Brilliant for an old ale.

S - Vanilla, burnt sugar, toffee and some smooth hops on the rear. Nice and complex for an old ale.

T - Follows the nose nicely but there is a compliment of bitter hops. I cannot say I care for this but there is a lot going on. The complex nature is enjoyable but perhaps my palette is just not quite tenured enough.

M - A bit thin, but has a almost syrupy composition on the inside. It feels like an extremely diluted version of the molasses in the CBS and Backwoods Bastard. Upon drawing these connections I feel this just average.

O - A unique brew and certainly a mellowed out version of the Better Half. I cannot justify paying near $3 a bottle of this at my local store. There are a near infinite number of brews I can find better in every category. I must note the alcohol is hidden masterfully, yet this seems to be a trend from the folks at Founders.

Serving type: bottle

05-06-2012 00:26:58 | More by mscudder
Photo of ilikebeer03


3.88/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

12 oz bottle poured into a snifter.

A: Pours a nice burnt orange / golden brown with about a finger of head. This recedes into a nice ring of foam around the edges with some lingering toward the center of the glass.

S: I get a dark fruits up front. Similar to the way a quad would smell. Also, some oak, and vanilla.

T: Tastes good. I get a slight oaky/vanilla. Again, some dark fruits with a malty / bread backbone. I also get some slight chocolate notes which become more apparent as the beer warms. Did not initially taste any alcohol, but again, as the beer warms, I very slightly feel the burn. A bit of dryness in the finish from the oak and the chocolate lingers. Raisins are present too. Though, not strongly; between low and medium.

M: Good mouth feel. Not overly carbonated. I am not overly familiar with the style, nor have I had many examples, but I like it. A slight dryness from the oak lingers.

O: This is a very good beer. I plan on drinking maybe one every 6 months to see how it changes. I don't know that it is worth the 12.99 I paid for the 4 pack.

Overall a delicious beer.

Serving type: bottle

04-25-2014 01:51:47 | More by ilikebeer03
Photo of BrewtalHonesty


4/5  rDev -0.2%

04-10-2014 00:34:01 | More by BrewtalHonesty
Photo of IronLover


3.88/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured with no head and a murky weathered copper color. Very thin wispy off white lacings lay on top after the pour. Sweet caramel malt, ripe apple, spice and oak aromas. Combined with the hint of alcohol, the smell is reminiscent of a light, sweet bourbon. Medium to full bodied with a thick mouth feel as the latent carbonation slowly comes to life. Sweet caramel malt and ripe apple flavors, hints of spice, finishes with an alcoholic burn and a pine hop flavor. Definitely a sipper that warms the soul.

Serving type: bottle

12-02-2010 03:08:29 | More by IronLover
Photo of Agold


4.18/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

This beer is darker amber with a little bit of redness. The smell is a complex blend of raisins, maple syrup, and a bit of cinnamon that i may or may not be hallucinating. The taste is sweet, but not overly so, with maple syrup, dark wine, and toffee with the alcohol nicely balanced. The mouthfeel is thicker with a small amount of carbonation. A good sipping beer, which evolves as it warms. Very enjoyable.

Serving type: bottle

07-28-2010 04:56:45 | More by Agold
Photo of Beer21


4/5  rDev -0.2%

07-08-2014 20:40:35 | More by Beer21
Photo of Kaveman


4/5  rDev -0.2%

08-26-2013 02:31:00 | More by Kaveman
Photo of warriorsoul


3.9/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Huge thanks to malty for this one...
Cloudy cherry rust color with less than 1/4 finger of off-white head...disappears before the pour is finished and leaves some thin, sporadic lacing.
Vanilla oak scent with a faint candied fruit finish...a bit off when served even slightly chilled, but real attractive at room temp.
Rum soaked raisins up front with quite a fruity hop profile bittering up the finish...rock candy comes to mind and an earthy aftertaste.
A bit too sweet up front for my liking, but as it warms, it becomes so much more balanced. Alcohol is well hidden...although the rum flavor really makes you think that what you are drinking is much stronger than it is...I like that.
Mouthfeel is nice and the carbonation is where I like it.
This would be a one and done for me...would be much more enjoyable in the colder months, but I had to try it fresh. Hopefully more will make its way into my possession to see how it changes in six months.
Not my favorite Founders brew...still a nice offering.

Serving type: bottle

05-23-2006 00:22:53 | More by warriorsoul
Photo of xdefeatsy


4/5  rDev -0.2%

03-22-2013 01:43:42 | More by xdefeatsy
Photo of mwar


4.5/5  rDev +12.2%

05-19-2013 13:48:06 | More by mwar
Photo of cp45

New Jersey

3.75/5  rDev -6.5%

05-31-2014 01:33:38 | More by cp45
Photo of SawDog505

New Hampshire

4.01/5  rDev 0%
look: 4.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Poured into a 16 oz snifter, bottled on 2/15/13. Pours a beautiful deep amber with a two inch off white head, that leaves webs of lace. Smell is vanilla, dark fruit, brown sugar, bready, and apple. Taste is all of that with vanilla and brown sugar starting the party, with some figgy dark fruit in the finish. Body is medium large, nice amount of carbonation, maybe s little dry, and nice drinkability. I am more of hop forward drinker, but this is really solid.

Serving type: bottle

03-14-2013 02:23:10 | More by SawDog505
Photo of browniewithnuts


4/5  rDev -0.2%

04-18-2013 20:37:55 | More by browniewithnuts
Photo of Gtreid


3.48/5  rDev -13.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

12 oz. bottle poured into a tulip.

A: Deep burnt orange color. The pour dropped a great two finger head that left nice lace.

A: Very interesting. I get notes of oak, cane sugar, caramel, vanilla, and dirty muddy water. Earthy hops and grapefruit notes as well.

T: Caramel, vanilla, and oak. It is very sweet, and almost has a belgian quad sugary flavor. I get a touch of molasses but the flavor is dominated by sugar and wood. Very noticable alcohol heat.

M: Pretty heavy body, good amount of carbonation.

O: I am really on the fence with this one. I loved the way it looked and smelled, but the flavor fell a little short for me. Can't say anything bad about the beer, just not my cup of tea. Cheers.

Serving type: bottle

12-18-2011 13:00:26 | More by Gtreid
Photo of Boston_Steve


3.5/5  rDev -12.7%

06-25-2014 03:48:30 | More by Boston_Steve
Photo of woodchip

North Carolina

4/5  rDev -0.2%

05-30-2013 00:31:48 | More by woodchip
Photo of baklo

North Carolina

4.5/5  rDev +12.2%

04-21-2014 10:50:53 | More by baklo
Photo of HopsHopenstein


3.75/5  rDev -6.5%

07-18-2012 22:20:17 | More by HopsHopenstein
Photo of topdown


4.5/5  rDev +12.2%

08-06-2013 20:11:39 | More by topdown
Photo of kushlash23


4/5  rDev -0.2%

03-04-2014 01:58:28 | More by kushlash23
Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale) from Founders Brewing Company
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