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Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale) - Founders Brewing Company

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Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)

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Ratings: 3,357
Reviews: 1,085
rAvg: 4.02
pDev: 10.95%
Wants: 125
Gots: 602 | FT: 44
Brewed by:
Founders Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Old Ale |  9.80% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
50 IBU
Old ale brewed with molasses and oak-aged.

(Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 08-31-2005)
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Photo of jeonseh


4.1/5  rDev +2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Dark amber with light trails of carbonation trailing upwards; Rather opaque as I can barely see through it and actually find myself looking into my reflection. One can tell that the beer is going to be sticky in the mouth. Had a one finger head but that went down to a bit of foam trailing on the sides and islands of it floating about my snifter

S - loads of caramel malt with hints of dark fruit as well. Definitely get a hint of the alcohol as well. Scents of sweet, orange remind me a bit of grand marnier; actually get a hint of brandied cherries and vanilla as well which just adds a great feeling to this brew;

T - At first, a hint of caramel malt with a hint of brown sugar and cherry; There is a big whiff of spice that just warms you up and tingles your tongue fading away into candied dates; Near the end there is a candied orange peel comes up in the end along with a bit of alcoholic bite; reminds me a bit of a brandied toffee bread pudding with bits of cherries strewn throughout.

M - Actually not too sticky; the mouth feel is rather big and has a nice carbonation to it which really seems to lend itself to the orange peel flavors in the taste; nice warming tingle left on the tongue that matches the flavors of the spice

D - Overall a nice complex sipper. It was rather good but I expected it to be a bit sweeter. I think this would be good with a bit of age on it to let the orange peel die down a bit; it was rather spicy as well and sometimes think that took a bit away from the other flavors. I do like this though, but not my favorite ale. Think it would go well with some ice cream or maybe a brownie.

Serving type: bottle

10-09-2008 00:45:07 | More by jeonseh
Photo of OldhouseRecs

North Carolina

4/5  rDev -0.5%

03-17-2013 03:27:29 | More by OldhouseRecs
Photo of Beer21


4/5  rDev -0.5%

07-08-2014 20:40:35 | More by Beer21
Photo of mattparsons

New Hampshire

4/5  rDev -0.5%

03-15-2013 02:14:25 | More by mattparsons
Photo of SawDog505

New Hampshire

4.01/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Poured into a 16 oz snifter, bottled on 2/15/13. Pours a beautiful deep amber with a two inch off white head, that leaves webs of lace. Smell is vanilla, dark fruit, brown sugar, bready, and apple. Taste is all of that with vanilla and brown sugar starting the party, with some figgy dark fruit in the finish. Body is medium large, nice amount of carbonation, maybe s little dry, and nice drinkability. I am more of hop forward drinker, but this is really solid.

Serving type: bottle

03-14-2013 02:23:10 | More by SawDog505
Photo of JustinMatthew


3.5/5  rDev -12.9%

02-25-2012 16:39:45 | More by JustinMatthew
Photo of ilikebeer03


3.88/5  rDev -3.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

12 oz bottle poured into a snifter.

A: Pours a nice burnt orange / golden brown with about a finger of head. This recedes into a nice ring of foam around the edges with some lingering toward the center of the glass.

S: I get a dark fruits up front. Similar to the way a quad would smell. Also, some oak, and vanilla.

T: Tastes good. I get a slight oaky/vanilla. Again, some dark fruits with a malty / bread backbone. I also get some slight chocolate notes which become more apparent as the beer warms. Did not initially taste any alcohol, but again, as the beer warms, I very slightly feel the burn. A bit of dryness in the finish from the oak and the chocolate lingers. Raisins are present too. Though, not strongly; between low and medium.

M: Good mouth feel. Not overly carbonated. I am not overly familiar with the style, nor have I had many examples, but I like it. A slight dryness from the oak lingers.

O: This is a very good beer. I plan on drinking maybe one every 6 months to see how it changes. I don't know that it is worth the 12.99 I paid for the 4 pack.

Overall a delicious beer.

Serving type: bottle

04-25-2014 01:51:47 | More by ilikebeer03
Photo of Lanstrum


4.5/5  rDev +11.9%

06-14-2013 19:14:38 | More by Lanstrum
Photo of baklo

North Carolina

4.5/5  rDev +11.9%

04-21-2014 10:50:53 | More by baklo
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New York

4/5  rDev -0.5%

05-11-2012 17:33:06 | More by Quackus
Photo of jakea


4/5  rDev -0.5%

10-18-2013 02:10:19 | More by jakea
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3.5/5  rDev -12.9%

06-25-2014 03:48:30 | More by Boston_Steve
Photo of walleye


4/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

from the bottle, poured a cloudy brown with a small tan head that left no lacing. aroma just like the description says aged on bourbon barrels and the boubron comes out nice and strong than some sweetness along with the malts couldn’t get anything else out of it after it warms the aroma subsides a bet. flavor, the bourbon was as strong as the aroma which was a could thing, than along came the malts and sweetness got molasses, and some dark fruits became easier to drink when it warmed

Serving type: bottle

05-28-2006 02:42:05 | More by walleye
Photo of ajs4bd


3.25/5  rDev -19.2%

07-13-2012 17:02:22 | More by ajs4bd
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New York

3.75/5  rDev -6.7%

03-26-2012 01:24:35 | More by juliusseizure
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3.75/5  rDev -6.7%

09-14-2013 02:26:09 | More by RMoeNay
Photo of warriorsoul


3.9/5  rDev -3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Huge thanks to malty for this one...
Cloudy cherry rust color with less than 1/4 finger of off-white head...disappears before the pour is finished and leaves some thin, sporadic lacing.
Vanilla oak scent with a faint candied fruit finish...a bit off when served even slightly chilled, but real attractive at room temp.
Rum soaked raisins up front with quite a fruity hop profile bittering up the finish...rock candy comes to mind and an earthy aftertaste.
A bit too sweet up front for my liking, but as it warms, it becomes so much more balanced. Alcohol is well hidden...although the rum flavor really makes you think that what you are drinking is much stronger than it is...I like that.
Mouthfeel is nice and the carbonation is where I like it.
This would be a one and done for me...would be much more enjoyable in the colder months, but I had to try it fresh. Hopefully more will make its way into my possession to see how it changes in six months.
Not my favorite Founders brew...still a nice offering.

Serving type: bottle

05-23-2006 00:22:53 | More by warriorsoul
Photo of VaTechHopHead

3.95/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4.5

A - Deep copper hue but has zero head/lacing. There's a little floating yeast in suspension and no visible carbonation.

S - Ripe with rich caramel, light toast, and a slight alcohol aroma. At the end there are faint hints of hot butter and brown sugar.

T - Dark/brown sugar at first with some alcohol thrown in there. Follows up with a nice biscuit and malt flavor. There is a faint hop taste in the middle but pretty much gets overpowered by all the other flavors. Finishes sweet with a mild alcohol burn.

M/D - Has a medium syrup-like body, flat on the palate from low volumes of carbonation, and finishes sweet. The alcohol flavor complimented with the sweetness and thick-ish body make it a definite sipper but fun to drink.

Serving type: bottle

08-29-2010 21:34:53 | More by VaTechHopHead
Photo of IronLover


3.88/5  rDev -3.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured with no head and a murky weathered copper color. Very thin wispy off white lacings lay on top after the pour. Sweet caramel malt, ripe apple, spice and oak aromas. Combined with the hint of alcohol, the smell is reminiscent of a light, sweet bourbon. Medium to full bodied with a thick mouth feel as the latent carbonation slowly comes to life. Sweet caramel malt and ripe apple flavors, hints of spice, finishes with an alcoholic burn and a pine hop flavor. Definitely a sipper that warms the soul.

Serving type: bottle

12-02-2010 03:08:29 | More by IronLover
Photo of BlackBelt5112203


4.23/5  rDev +5.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

12 oz bottle poured into a pint glass at cellar temperature.

L - Medium amber color with a 2-finger bubbly cream-colored head. Really good retention and excellent lacing. Clear with lots of bubbles - more carbonation than I was expecting.

S - Lots going on here. Toasted and caramel malts, molasses, dark fruits like cherries and plums, raisins, and some chocolate, vanilla, and woody aromas. Maybe a touch of alcohol noticeable.

T - Sweet with flavors of caramel malts, dark fruits, molasses and vanilla. Finishes with a woody and alcoholic dryness.

F - Medium-bodied with good carbonation, a creamy and mouth-coating feel, and a very dry, almost astringent finish. Woody dryness lingers and complements the drying and throat-warming sensation brought on by the alcohol.

O - This beer was delicious and an awesome example of an old ale. It tastes and smells great with a variety of malt and dark fruity ester aromas and flavors. The molasses and oak-aging really add a lot of flavors, aromas, and character to this beer in my opinion. Another great offering from Founders.

Serving type: bottle

06-22-2012 17:52:30 | More by BlackBelt5112203
Photo of Boilerfood


4.25/5  rDev +5.7%

11-11-2012 23:21:43 | More by Boilerfood
Photo of Alextricity


4.1/5  rDev +2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Bottled 2/06/14 and poured 4/15/14. $3.49 a single.

Appearance: Pours a "quiet" red/orange color with a nice off-white head and lacing at the start.

Smell: Wow. Dark fruits, barrel, molasses sweetness, oak... just as I expected from the label and style. There's also a slight hint of booze as well.

Taste/feel: Just looking at it in the glass, it looks sweet. That's probably just because I know there's molasses in it though. This beer is sweetsweetsweet, which you should figure if you know the style, see that this beer is brewed with molasses, or see that the IBUs are "only" 50 IBUs. Molasses, candied dark fruits, oak, rich and heavy caramel malts with a bit of a toasted malt aftertaste with an underlying subtle bitterness to keep it from being sickly sweet. Just looking at it in the glass should give you an idea of how it feels. Very mild carbonation with a pretty full body. Some would call it "flat", but it's a mild carbonation that I'm liking for this beer. Also, the body is big, but it's not to the point where it's syrupy/cloying. Then again, the nice depth of flavor also helps that. Don't get me wrong, it IS a very sweet beer, but it's not a chore to drink by any means. 9.8% is hidden perfectly as well.

Overall, an incredibly tasty choice for those who dig a big, bold, malty, sweet beer. It may not be something that I'd personally drink very often (I'm already a "ticker" as it is...), but there is absolutely no denying that this is a phenomenal beer that warrants a try to any beer aficionado. I may go buy myself another single just to see how this thing ages. It is sweet as hell, but it is equally as tasty.

Serving type: bottle

04-15-2014 21:30:25 | More by Alextricity
Photo of stewart124


4.53/5  rDev +12.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

Hazy amber in color with orange hues and lots of sediment. The head is small and doesn't linger.

Stong smells of caramel and I pick up a bit of cinnamon. There are also slight hints of the alcohol to come.

Very spicy with the first taste but this just mellows out as the beer warms and this just melts on my tongue. The mouthfeel and the after taste are just amazing; lots of caramel and a sweet malt/bready character.

There is a toffee and sweet caramel note in the finish which is great. The alcohol is subtle. This is really a nice beer.

Serving type: bottle

04-10-2009 01:39:11 | More by stewart124
Photo of mscudder


3.58/5  rDev -10.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Grabbed on fresh made for the summer of 2012. Poured into a schooner.

A - Cloudy amber with a thin pale head that leaves some nice lacing. Brilliant for an old ale.

S - Vanilla, burnt sugar, toffee and some smooth hops on the rear. Nice and complex for an old ale.

T - Follows the nose nicely but there is a compliment of bitter hops. I cannot say I care for this but there is a lot going on. The complex nature is enjoyable but perhaps my palette is just not quite tenured enough.

M - A bit thin, but has a almost syrupy composition on the inside. It feels like an extremely diluted version of the molasses in the CBS and Backwoods Bastard. Upon drawing these connections I feel this just average.

O - A unique brew and certainly a mellowed out version of the Better Half. I cannot justify paying near $3 a bottle of this at my local store. There are a near infinite number of brews I can find better in every category. I must note the alcohol is hidden masterfully, yet this seems to be a trend from the folks at Founders.

Serving type: bottle

05-06-2012 00:26:58 | More by mscudder
Photo of amishbooze


4/5  rDev -0.5%

07-10-2012 15:52:09 | More by amishbooze
Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale) from Founders Brewing Company
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