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Founders Doom - Founders Brewing Company

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BA SCORE
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1,527 Ratings
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Ratings: 1,527
Reviews: 315
rAvg: 4.08
pDev: 12.01%
Wants: 122
Gots: 283 | FT: 41
Brewed by:
Founders Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
American Double / Imperial IPA |  10.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
Previously known as Hand of Doom.

(Beer added by: CRJMellor on 02-01-2009)
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Photo of Gosox8787
3.26/5  rDev -20.1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.25

Presentation: 750 mL bottle chilled and poured into my Hill Farmstead stemware. I figure this should be best fresh, so opening this up tonight.

Appearance: Light to medium orange in color with a little haze. Pours a decent white head that settles into a light lacing. So far, so good.

Aroma: Bright citrusy hop tones are a bit covered up by light bourbon, caramel, vanilla bean and butterscotch. The really bright tones from the hops are made a bit heavier but the barrel aromas.

Taste: The bourbon really hits hard on the first sip. Big brash bourbon and caramel combined with a really strong booze character. The bitterness from the hops seems to bring out the pure, raw bourbon character. There is some bright orange zest and lemon tones that come through but they really don't do much to increase how refreshing this is. Butterscotch and caramel provide some interesting tones as well. Cannot seem to make up its mind as to whether it wants to drink like a refreshing IPA or a heavy barrel aged ale.

Mouthfeel: Medium bodied but really nice and crisp. Drinks like a really tasty IPA. Just doesn't have the flavor to match.

Overall, this really doesn't come together under one coherent idea. It wants to be refreshing like an IPA but also wants the smooth sipping notes and complexity of a barrel aged beer. Classic example of a beer that tries to do a little bit of everything and ends up not doing any of them well. I really like the base IPA and the barrel aging also provides some nice tones, but the hops really bring out the worst characteristics of the bourbon and vice versa. Not upset I tried this but I was left a bit underwhelmed.

Gosox8787, Apr 24, 2013
Photo of ShemRahBoo
4.5/5  rDev +10.3%

ShemRahBoo, Apr 24, 2013
Photo of trapper2408
4/5  rDev -2%

trapper2408, Apr 24, 2013
Photo of Hophead717
3.75/5  rDev -8.1%

Hophead717, Apr 23, 2013
Photo of THANAT0PSIS
4.63/5  rDev +13.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Founders Doom

Appearance: The relative oddity that is bourbon barrel-aged Double Trouble predictably pours a slightly darker and richer gold than the base beer. A slightly violent pour yields two fingers of pure white head with impressive retention, based on the barrel aging. Lacing is very good. There is also more carbonation than expected given the bourbon presence. There is minimal sediment present as well, but the beer is nearly crystal clear. This is a great looking drink and really is not all that different in appearance from Double Trouble.

Aroma: “Odd” is the only word to describe the duel between bourbon (which is very much present, though in more of an alcohol presence than a traditional bourbon note) and citrusy hops. The bourbon actually makes the hop qualities come out earthier in comparison to Double Trouble’s largely citrus- and pine-based aroma. The bourbon (or, rather, alcohol) is not overpowering, but actually somehow works quite well with the earthiness of the hops and caramel of the malt bill. There is a touch of vanilla from the barrel hidden in the nose. Overall, it really just smells like a sweet, syrupy, high ABV IIPA with a hint of oak, which is not a bad thing; more bourbon barrel character would have been nice.

Taste: The barrel, perhaps angry that it was nearly counted out of the aroma, hits hard, almost to the degree of tasting like an impossibly smooth shot of bourbon. Never fear, hop-heads, as is just the beginning: this beer is immensely complex. Right after the initial bourbon barrel sucker punch (which is packed with sweet bourbon, hot booziness, and fantastic oak) come the hops; they vary as the beer warms: initially, only the harsh grapefruit is strong enough to cut through the barrel, but eventually some great orange and mango notes come through. The mango brings with it a banana (!?) and a pineapple to create a great tropical fruit basket. There is also a strange (yet awesome), savory butter quality going on here. The malt wavers from bready to caramel to toffee (likely because of the barrel’s influence), and is superb throughout. The assertiveness of the barrel may ruin the beer for some, but for what it is it is done to perfection.

Mouthfeel: It is a bit thinner than one would hope for in an IIPA, but still solid; the thinness is likely a result of the bourbon seeping into the beverage. The carbonation is not quite as active as the appearance would suggest, but it is enough. After the mention of how strong the barrel is in the taste it should come as no surprise that there is a definite alcohol burn in the mouthfeel. It is not quite as bad as taking a shot of even the smoothest of bourbons, but it registers only a few magnitudes below that; it is almost shocking that the ABV is only 10%. There is a mild astringency from the hops, which is utterly unsurprising when considering the base beer has some of the most ridiculous astringency found in any beer. All these qualities combine to create a slightly “hot”, yet wonderfully silky-smooth beer. Wonderful.

Overall: My first bourbon barrel-aged IIPA was a runaway success. Sure, the barrel character is outrageous, but beneath that is a fantastically complex beer. The key to enjoying this beer is to LET IT WARM. So much comes out of it while it closes in on room temperature, and drinking it cold, like every other IIPA, will not do it justice. The barrel character in this is matched only by Goose Island BCBS, and it stands out more here because of the lighter, thinner base beer. There is so much to love about this, but it takes an open mind and an adventurous palate to really appreciate everything that Founders succeeded in doing here. For BA, this will not be the next CBS by any means, but it also is not Frangelic Mountain Brown. Pick it up if possible. 18/20

THANAT0PSIS, Apr 23, 2013
Photo of WillCarrera
3.15/5  rDev -22.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.75

On-tap at Churchkey, served in a snifter.

A- Pours a hazy golden color with a finger of white head, leaves some spotty lacing.

S- Pretty even blend of vanilla and piney hops, there's some oak and bourbon in there too. The bourbon/vanilla character isn't bad, but the hops are pretty muted.

T- Some piney bitterness at first, again the hops are very bitter but none of the hop flavors really jump out at you. After the initial bitterness subsides the barrel takes over. Lots of vanilla, bourbon and oak. The barrel character is actually pretty nice, but doesn't fit with the other things going on here.

M- Medium-bodied, slick, slightly sticky feel, considerable amount of boozy heat on the finish.

O- Before I tried this I would have told you that a bourbon barrel aged DIPA was a really stupid idea. That is exactly what I would still tell you now. These flavors don't work together. It's a shame, because Double Trouble is actually a very good DIPA, what a way of putting it to waste.

WillCarrera, Apr 23, 2013
Photo of juliusseizure
4.25/5  rDev +4.2%

juliusseizure, Apr 23, 2013
Photo of cfrances33
4.04/5  rDev -1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Bottle poured into a teku.

Pour: Mostly clear amber orange with two fingers of fluffy, slow to right whit head. A decent amount of lacing, and the head hangs around for a little while.

Smell: Lots of barrel start the nose - toffee, a light caramel, and a touch of marshmallow. Some bright tropical hops... not really citrus but more pineapple and mango. A hint of oak.

Taste: The taste is hard to pin down at fridge temp... lightly fruity hops and some grassiness initially out of the fridge. A touch of alcohol burn. As it warms, some buttery toffee, oak, and bitter piney hop resins blossom. Definitely boozy, but it isn't overpowering. This tastes nice by the 2nd half of the glass.

Mouthfeel: Again, odd. A rather light and splashy body, but with a disctint alcohol presence. Not a ton of burn, but it is there. Lightly astringent which is a bit of a disappointment, but it doesn't ruin the beer. As it warms, this astringency dissipates.

Overall: Interesting beer. Not particularly great, but good for what it is. I'm glad I got to try it, but I wouldn't kill yourself trying to obtain a bottle.

cfrances33, Apr 23, 2013
Photo of JDizzle
4.5/5  rDev +10.3%

JDizzle, Apr 23, 2013
Photo of NYCBUCKEYE
2.5/5  rDev -38.7%

NYCBUCKEYE, Apr 23, 2013
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4.5/5  rDev +10.3%

c64person, Apr 23, 2013
Photo of bonSreeB
4.5/5  rDev +10.3%

bonSreeB, Apr 23, 2013
Photo of bepps
4.25/5  rDev +4.2%

bepps, Apr 23, 2013
Photo of CPditka
3.75/5  rDev -8.1%

CPditka, Apr 23, 2013
Photo of jjanega08
3.15/5  rDev -22.8%
look: 4 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3

No freshness dating

A= Pours a totally translucent ginger ale dark piss sort of color with a nice two fingers of head on it that holds nice retention and lacing on the glass.

S= The smell is quite hot to be honest. A lot of the bourbon barrel comes through in the nose. There is a nice hop aroma that comes through as well but the aroma is dominated by bourbon, vanilla, and hot alcohol.

T= The taste is similar to the nose. A little lighter on the alcohol but that may be bacause the hop profile is amplified hiding a bit of the booze. The bourbon comes through greatly and there is a nice vanilla aroma. It actually isn't as bad as I though coming from the nose but I still don't think it's on par with some of the other bourbon barrel IPAs I've had.

M= The mouth is great on this one. Nice soft beer.

O= Founders makes some amazing beers. This just so happens to not be one of my favorites. It's still a solid beer but it's not as mind blowing as I was hoping. This beer is good but not great. Try it and see for yourself. I was hoping for a bit more of a hop punch. Maybe another dry hopping or something. Who knows.

jjanega08, Apr 23, 2013
Photo of Crimsontider22
4.75/5  rDev +16.4%

Crimsontider22, Apr 23, 2013
Photo of server222
5/5  rDev +22.5%

server222, Apr 22, 2013
Photo of weonfire
4.34/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Enjoyed this on tap at Founders Brewery at their Black Party, pour into a 12oz snifter.

A - Golden, semi-transluscent, hazy, patchy lacing, pencil thin-cream colored head

S - Sweet bourbon, medium citrus, carmel

T - Initial: Bourbon, carmel, sweet grapefruit. finish: hops is low (5/10), booze- but minor

M - Thick, Frothy, high viscosity, great for such a high ABV

O - This was my first 'Bourbon' BA IIPA so I wasn't exactly sure what to expect. Bourbon flavor is really nice. But as for a IIPA - citrus flavor is pretty minor which disappoints me. The bourbon straight dominated it. Tough to keep calling it an IIPA in my mind. To be fair, grapefruit-specifically was apparent.

weonfire, Apr 22, 2013
Photo of SaxmanRick
5/5  rDev +22.5%

SaxmanRick, Apr 22, 2013
Photo of herman77
4.25/5  rDev +4.2%

herman77, Apr 22, 2013
Photo of MWilt
4.5/5  rDev +10.3%

MWilt, Apr 22, 2013
Photo of DanGeo
4.25/5  rDev +4.2%

DanGeo, Apr 22, 2013
Photo of PieOhMy
3.75/5  rDev -8.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.75

Served on tap. Poured into tulip glass.

A. Hazy orange. No transparency. Very little white head. Nice lacing follows down.

S. Boozy. Pungent but not off putting. Got some hops but not strong. Slight citrus aroma.

T. Off balance. There's a smooth boozyness, which I like, but no initial hop flavor. The hops do hit in a second wave along with a piney/woody flavor. The pine/wood does not linger in the aftertaste.

M. Quite full actually. Not quite syrupy but quite thick. Best part of this beer.

O. The Double Trouble hoppyness and fruitiness died while barreling. All of that is smoothed out and replaced with wood and booze. Founders overdid it on this one. People are going to dig this based on the hype machine but there is nothing to see (taste) here. Double Trouble is a good DIPA, but aging it out doesn't work.

PieOhMy, Apr 22, 2013
Photo of MNBeer1017
4/5  rDev -2%

MNBeer1017, Apr 22, 2013
Founders Doom from Founders Brewing Company
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