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Founders Nemesis 2009 - Founders Brewing Company

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Founders Nemesis 2009Founders Nemesis 2009

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BA SCORE
92
outstanding

677 Ratings
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Ratings: 677
Reviews: 468
rAvg: 4.15
pDev: 13.01%
Wants: 185
Gots: 129 | FT: 6
Brewed by:
Founders Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Wheatwine |  12.00% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

Maple bourbon barrel aged wheat wine.

(Beer added by: WYVYRN527 on 02-06-2010)
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SeanFlanagan

New Jersey

4.03/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a bottle into an oversize Duvel snifter. Did not decant. I like to taste and feel all of the remnants when I taste beer.

A - Pours with what I would describe as zero head. Small ring of bubbles around the rim, zero lacing. Beautiful copper color, almost jewel-like. It's a deeper color than I've seen in any other beer. Gorgeous looking.

S - Wow, there's the bourbon. I had a KBS last night, but this is in another league. Molasses and vanilla hit the nose as well. One could wear this as a cologne and get compliments. Not sure if that's a good thing.

T - First sip is actually far milder tasting that one would expect from the smell. It grows with subsequent sips, though. Characters of hefeweizens shine through, almost in spite of the alcohol. Bananas foster, light maple hit up top, and extremely smooth bourbon finishes and lingers a bit in the aftertaste with the maple. Hints of fig, apricot, and a tiny bit of the charred oak sneaks its way in if you let it linger on the palette. Not as complex a brew as I was expecting, if I'm honest. It's quite sweet, but not as sweet as some other styles can be. Still, if you don't like sweeter beers, you won't like this.

M - Smooth, smooth, smooth. Very light carbonation, but quite syrupy. Has a mouthfeel like a new syrah (that's a wine, people) with some bubbles, if that makes sense to anyone.

D - Almost the polar opposite of a session beer. I've just now finished the glass, and it's been nearly an hour. Now, I'm not normally a fast drinker by any stretch, but I'm usually at least halfway through my second of even the highest ABV brews by this point. Speaking of ABV, the listed 12% can't be right. This is hitting me hard; it has to be up in the 18-19% range.

Overall, it's a solid brew, and probably the best of the style I've had (though limited). It is a hype-driven beer, after all, and Founders seems to know a thing or two about driving hype. While they always deliver in isolation, they never seem to be as good relative to the hype generated on sites like this.

Now that I've had one of the four-pack I picked up, I'll be happy to cellar it away to bring out in a year or so to see how things have conditioned. My impression is that while it's an above-average brew right now, it'll be exceptional after sitting for a bit to mellow out. Especially once the hype dies down and I can taste it in isolation with normalized expectations. Coupled with the extremely limited quantities, dare I say that it's an investment?

Serving type: bottle

03-20-2010 02:46:35 | More by SeanFlanagan
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A- Cap comes off with a decent hiss, pours a slightly hazy with a little bit of translucency, orange brown in color with a very thin white head that quickly recedes to a still top, carbonation appears to be fairly low and there's a ton of white sediment chunks floating around even though it's been resting in my cellar for >6 months and I didn't pour the bottom of the beer in. By far not the most physically attractive beer.

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Founders Nemesis 2009 from Founders Brewing Company
92 out of 100 based on 677 ratings.