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Founders Nemesis 2009 - Founders Brewing Company

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Founders Nemesis 2009Founders Nemesis 2009

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BA SCORE
92
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674 Ratings
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Ratings: 674
Reviews: 468
rAvg: 4.15
pDev: 13.01%
Wants: 185
Gots: 129 | FT: 6
Brewed by:
Founders Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Wheatwine |  12.00% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

Maple bourbon barrel aged wheat wine.

(Beer added by: WYVYRN527 on 02-06-2010)
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ThreeWiseMen

California

4.55/5  rDev +9.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Got a four pack of this in a recent trade with hopsleeroy. Thanks a ton Lee! You're one helluva trader!

Poured into a Cigar City snifter.

Appearance: Poured out clear and amber into a couple of snifters (split this one 50/50 with Wiseman Zach). Tiny white bubbles slowly coalesce and rise to the surface to form a thin, fine, white halo. That tiny head evaporates within seconds, and doesn't ever reappear. Looks very thick and oily when swirled; coats the walls of the glass in a thin layer of resin. Body is a brilliant red-amber, even though it's loaded with suspended sediment. No lacing. All in all, this looks quite a bit like bourbon. I'm excited.

Smell: Sweet bourbon all over, and it only gets stronger as it warms. Maple syrup, caramel, and loads of floral esters, especially lavender. Alcohol is very present, but it's neither offensive nor distracting. I barely get any wheat, but I'm cool with it. This smells awesome!

Taste: Maple syrup and sweet oak lead things off, but are soon overtaken by strong bourbon. I don't think I've ever had a more bourbon-y beer, and that's saying something! Lots of bread (dough), particularly in the middle and aftertaste. I've got to search for the wheat aspect, but I find it toward the end of each sip, along with banana. Aftertaste is all about those bourbon esters. The first time I had Nemesis I thought it was overwhelming (speaking about the bourbon flavor and burn), but man is this second bottle sublime! Lots of bourbon burn, but it goes well with the huge flavor profile. Mmmmm...

Mouthfeel: Drinks a lot like a spirit: very lightly carbonated, warm, dry, and a touch syrupy. This beer produces a ton of chest heat - I'm cool with that.

Drinkability: Maybe I'm just in the mood for this sort of beer right now. Zach is nowhere close to finishing his, and I remember feeling the same the first time I tried Nemesis. This time I'm looking for more (and luckily he's willing to share). Put your big boy pants on before you crack one of these open. This beer is a beast!

Serving type: bottle

05-18-2010 02:26:34 | More by ThreeWiseMen
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12oz bottle poured into Founders tulip.

A- Cap comes off with a decent hiss, pours a slightly hazy with a little bit of translucency, orange brown in color with a very thin white head that quickly recedes to a still top, carbonation appears to be fairly low and there's a ton of white sediment chunks floating around even though it's been resting in my cellar for >6 months and I didn't pour the bottom of the beer in. By far not the most physically attractive beer.

S- Maple definitely still comes out fairly strong with a nice oak presence, malty with some underlying dark fruits, a slight bit of citrus that conflicts with the maple a tiny bit, a little bit of acetone. Oxidation is definitely present but overall the nose is holding up with still a strong aroma, decent barrel presence, and complexity.

T- Sweet maple balanced with a nice oak presence, fairly malty, slight bit of citrus, dark fruits come out on the finish with a nice plum presence balancing nicely with the maple. Not as much acetone or oxidation as the nose indicates, nice subtle complexities.

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O- Besides the appearance Nemesis is a pretty good beer that is definitely still holding it's own. Once you get past the insane amount of sediment it's actually quite tasty. The maple barrel adds a nice presence balanced with malty dark fruits. I wouldn't age this much longer as I think it's already falling off but it's still definitely worth drinking.

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S-Very bourbon-esque! Malty sweetness, smells great!!!.

T-WOW bourbon!!!! Very malty as well, balanced, no alcohol after taste. So much bourbon. Very little maple left. If you did a blind taste on this you'd think it was a decent bourbon or a great bourbon with some water added.

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O-A tad too sweet. I can only imagine how good this would have been fresh. But I am soo glad to be able to have tried it.

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Founders Nemesis 2009 from Founders Brewing Company
92 out of 100 based on 674 ratings.