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Founders Nemesis 2009 - Founders Brewing Company

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Founders Nemesis 2009Founders Nemesis 2009

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Ratings: 685
Reviews: 468
rAvg: 4.14
pDev: 13.04%
Wants: 184
Gots: 128 | FT: 6
Brewed by:
Founders Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Wheatwine |  12.00% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

Maple bourbon barrel aged wheat wine.

(Beer added by: WYVYRN527 on 02-06-2010)
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4.03/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Served cold from a bottle and poured into a tulip.

I tried to let this warm as much as I could as the establishment I ordered it from had it in a fridge.

The appearance was a cloudy orange. I would have liked to have poured this from the bottle myself to allow the yeast sediment to stay in the bottle. Pretty sure that the rough pour made it cloudy.

The nose was mostly maple with some subtle barrel notes.

Mouthfeel was solid and exactly what I would expect from a beer of this style.

The first sip of the beer was sweet and mapley but it quickly started reminding me of a peppermint. I'm a bourbon drinker and I could hardly detect the bourbon save the nose. Perhaps the mint flavor I was getting was a mixture of maple and bourbon but it was so much like peppermint that's all I could compare it to.

If you have this drink it now. I doubt more time would do this beer any good.

McUbermensch, Jan 20, 2014
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3.8/5  rDev -8.2%
look: 2 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

12 oz. bottle poured into a snifter.

Appearance - Sedimenty deep orange. Lots of chunks floating about. No head.

Smell - Nice whiskey aroma. Really smells like bourbon. Sweet caramel and maple. Definite oxidation, but it almost seems appropriate.

Taste - Sweet maple, but it's gone quickly. Bourbon. Lots of oak. Sweet caramel malt. Oxidation throughout.

Mouthfeel - Oaky and bitter. Low carbonation if any.

Overall - The bourbon and maple is very tasty. Oxidation seems to make it more complex.

Alieniloquium, Nov 08, 2013
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4.3/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

12oz bottle poured into a Founders Snifter.

The beer pours a lovely caramel brown color, hues of apricot when struck by the light, very murky, lots of sediment floating in the glass with a finger or so of bone colored head, very soapy and thick that has moderate retention and leaves only the faintest of spotted lace behind. The aroma is very big, lots of soft toffee, rich sweet grain, bourbon is prominent, but not harsh at all, very integrated, cereal grains are also apparent in contrast from the richer, darker malt, maple isn't really noticeable however, but caramel, light wood and vanilla pop out at the back end. It's very complex, big, boozy and sweet. The flavors are in queue, massive amounts of toffee and caramel, bourbon and wood creep in with a bit of vanilla, great barrel character, rich grain with some lighter cracker malt as well, a bit of sticky molasses pops out at the finish. The body is rich, albeit a bit thin, carbonation is lively but on the lower end, coats the mouth well and finishes a bit astringently.

Verdict: Delicious stuff that has aged so nicely. I was only able to detect the faintest touches of oxidation but the layers are so complex. Maple is an afterthought, but the bourbon is potent yet smooth. It's rich, smooth and just a joy to sip.

kevanb, Nov 02, 2013
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tsauce2, Oct 19, 2013
Founders Nemesis 2009 from Founders Brewing Company
92 out of 100 based on 685 ratings.