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Founders Nemesis 2009 - Founders Brewing Company

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Founders Nemesis 2009Founders Nemesis 2009

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BA SCORE
92
outstanding

680 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 680
Reviews: 468
rAvg: 4.15
pDev: 13.01%
Wants: 185
Gots: 129 | FT: 6
Brewed by:
Founders Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Wheatwine |  12.00% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

Maple bourbon barrel aged wheat wine.

(Beer added by: WYVYRN527 on 02-06-2010)
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TheBeerTruck

Michigan

3.5/5  rDev -15.7%

09-08-2013 05:17:03 | More by TheBeerTruck
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Brenden

Ohio

4.59/5  rDev +10.6%

This is another huge, boozy beer from Founders. This beer is either a nightmare or nearly divine, depending on the drinker's regard for spirits and hard liquor.

It's a deep, rich, burnished orange-brown color, somehow both thick and somewhat opaque in the look. A yellow-tinted head doesn't seem to be rising too tall but it sticks around, creamy and thick, and it leaves some good spotting and even some patching on the glass as it goes.
This is as much the beer equivalent of bourbon as I've ever encountered, with less to overtake it or shadow it, even if just slightly, than in a big stout. It's sweet, not too syrupy, hot but not overwhelmingly so, and plenty complex. Molasses, toffee, vanilla, breads, oak; there's so much here, and it's a pleasure to sip and unwrap. There's a little bit of a sugary undertone, and there's a discernable underlying wheat/malt base to hold it all together. It's a slow sipper, absolutely, but it's so rich and deep it needs to be anyway. Drunk exactly the way one would drink bourbon, disappointment seems impossible.
The body is very interesting; it seems medium but there's so much happening it's almost difficult to say. It has a certain necessary thickness without cloying or filling, and it's not velvety but it is undeniably smooth.

09-06-2013 19:27:58 | More by Brenden
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Nolen12

Kentucky

4/5  rDev -3.6%

09-03-2013 20:59:52 | More by Nolen12
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Mike

New Hampshire

4/5  rDev -3.6%

09-02-2013 05:56:08 | More by Mike
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TheBeerAlmanac

Kentucky

4.25/5  rDev +2.4%

08-31-2013 17:18:11 | More by TheBeerAlmanac
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bradfordjohnson

Kentucky

4.25/5  rDev +2.4%

08-30-2013 18:09:18 | More by bradfordjohnson
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KickbacksSteve

Florida

4.38/5  rDev +5.5%

2009 vintage poured into a small snifter. Light copper body, small head and minimal lacing. Aroma includes notes of molasses, brown sugar, vanilla, graham cracker, syrup. Taste includes notes of all the same and includes some alcohol notes. I would think this beer could continue to get better for several more years to give it more time for the alcohol flavor to fade. Quite a tasty beer.

08-23-2013 00:44:42 | More by KickbacksSteve
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Cookierachas

California

5/5  rDev +20.5%

08-21-2013 15:10:58 | More by Cookierachas
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GonzoHomebrewer

Massachusetts

4.25/5  rDev +2.4%

Last bottle! Poured into an Alchemist glass

A- Hazy cloudy with mostly darker shades of orange, very heavy sediment, obvious seperation between sediment and everything else, not appealing to the eye, but I'm sure Founders didn't make this beer to age and look great

S- nose is nice, smell leads off with wheatwine characteristics of clove, banana, bit of spice followed by some vanilla sweetness

T- Beer really takes off here, Barrel is a bit more noticeable, but not overwhelming at all. Incredibly smooth bourbon vanilla takes over and you have to dig a bit to find the beer characteristics, but they're still there, some other sweetness near the end that could be the maple, but it never lingers long enough to be too discernible. Aged wonderfully

M- Not too sticky, just a kiss of carbonation at this point, just enough to make the sweetness easy to take

O- There's absolutely no signs this beer is 12% and that makes it crazy drinkable. I don't see how this could really get any better, so if you're still holding on to bottles, drink em now. I've had this fresh, 1 year, 2 year and 4. I'd say one year was my favorite, followed by 4 then fresh and 2. Hope to see this re-brewed!

08-20-2013 22:48:03 | More by GonzoHomebrewer
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CypherEnigma

Massachusetts

3.75/5  rDev -9.6%

08-17-2013 17:45:13 | More by CypherEnigma
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elkinbrown

Ohio

4.75/5  rDev +14.5%

08-17-2013 16:44:55 | More by elkinbrown
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danthehopslamman

Illinois

4.25/5  rDev +2.4%

08-06-2013 16:43:29 | More by danthehopslamman
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Dirt

Ohio

4.25/5  rDev +2.4%

08-06-2013 01:50:57 | More by Dirt
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ari32

Georgia

4.25/5  rDev +2.4%

07-22-2013 15:30:13 | More by ari32
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2beerdogs

California

4/5  rDev -3.6%

07-19-2013 04:39:49 | More by 2beerdogs
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BillRoth

Maryland

5/5  rDev +20.5%

07-14-2013 11:57:23 | More by BillRoth
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Brez07

Maine

4.11/5  rDev -1%

Reviewed as part of the Blind Beer BIF. 12 oz poured into a snifter

Pours orangey amber, limited ring of head and no lace

The booze is strong with this one. Blasted with bourbon as soom as I opened it. Obviously bourbon barreled, already thinking barleywine. Caramel, orange candy/burnt sugar, some piney-ness

Toffee, caramel and pine come to mind as I sip this, slowly. Sweet bread as well. Decent fusel burn. Lightly bitter from what I'm guessing is residual hops, as this has some age on it. Sweet but with a nice contrast from bitterness

Medium to full bodied, low on carb. Slightly dry finish

Fantastic, right in my wheelhouse. Definitely thinking this is a BA barleywine, maybe from Founders based on geographical location of my sender

Reveal: 2009 Founders Nemesis. Daaamn, that's a good one. Very close with the guess (it's a wheat wine). I see why everyone wants Founders to rebrew this one!

07-10-2013 12:38:08 | More by Brez07
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Zbeetleman

California

4.75/5  rDev +14.5%

07-07-2013 06:37:16 | More by Zbeetleman
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KickInTheChalice

Illinois

3.58/5  rDev -13.7%

From notes. Poured from a 12 oz. bottle into a tulip.

Nemesis has a mostly transparent caramel color with a small white head. The cap fades pretty quickly to a ring around the edge of the glass.

The aroma is full of creamy vanilla. Some maple and bourbon add a sweet booziness.

The flavor is still fairly harsh. There is not enough body to contain the high ABV. It reminds me a little bit of cream soda, with vanilla, some oak barrel character, maple, bourbon, and sweet caramel from the base wheat wine.

The body is a little bit thin from what I want out of a wheat wine, especially one that has this much alcohol. The booze is definitely noticeable. Carbonation is on the light side.

This had potential, but the flavor is still too harsh to be enjoyable.

07-02-2013 01:29:17 | More by KickInTheChalice
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WOLFGANG

South Carolina

5/5  rDev +20.5%

06-30-2013 14:14:02 | More by WOLFGANG
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ThatCracker

Virginia

4.25/5  rDev +2.4%

06-24-2013 12:47:00 | More by ThatCracker
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megamass

New Jersey

4.5/5  rDev +8.4%

06-16-2013 05:43:06 | More by megamass
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HopsMatt

Kentucky

4.25/5  rDev +2.4%

06-13-2013 06:33:54 | More by HopsMatt
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BAsbill

California

4/5  rDev -3.6%

06-12-2013 20:18:03 | More by BAsbill
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drbenzo

California

4.25/5  rDev +2.4%

06-12-2013 05:45:20 | More by drbenzo
Founders Nemesis 2009 from Founders Brewing Company
92 out of 100 based on 680 ratings.