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Founders Nemesis 2009 - Founders Brewing Company

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Ratings: 682
Reviews: 468
rAvg: 4.15
pDev: 13.01%
Wants: 184
Gots: 129 | FT: 6
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Founders Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Wheatwine |  12.00% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

Maple bourbon barrel aged wheat wine.

(Beer added by: WYVYRN527 on 02-06-2010)
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Photo of nlmartin
4.47/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

This beer was served in an Imperial Pint glass.

Appearance: The body of the beer is a coppery orange coloration. The head was thin white and resolved into a film. Thin webs of lacing remained on my glass.

Smell: The aroma of the beer has loads of sweet bourbon maple syrup. Very nice supporting roles played by bazoka joe smelling yeast, cloves, a bit of pine, very nice fruit notes apple, figs, dates a bit of raisins. Smells super!

Taste: This reminds me of a bourbon fueled Bananas Fosters. Nice maple syrup, bourbon vanilla, peppery alcohol and spices, a bit of pine hops and tropical fruit cocktail. Very nicely done. Think I will let some of these lay down for a year.

Mouthfeel / Drinkability: The body of the beer is medium. The mouth is pretty alcohol laden but I think this is working out well. The beer is a sipper for sure. Looking forward to having this several times.

nlmartin, Feb 21, 2010
Photo of semibaked
4.38/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Poured from a bottle purchased today into a Tulip

A - Very nice copper color kind of like scotch or whisky. About of finger of head.

S - Giant bourbon smell hits quickly along with vanilla, I don't smell any maple syrup at all.

T - Wow a ton of bourbon flavor right off the bat, as it warms there is a great maple syrup flavor that is very nice with the bourbon. More sweetness comes outs towards the end.

M - Syrupy goodness and buttery. Kind of like caramel and butter. Very nice.

D - Goes down great, the bourbon is always present and maybe the sharpness of it will go down with times. I definitely would not of guessed this was 12% abv. Definitely a great sipper. Another fantastic offering from Founders.

semibaked, Feb 21, 2010
Photo of alexgash
4.55/5  rDev +9.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

12 oz. bottle.

Beautifully hazy peachy copper body. Pinkie finger of dense, creamy, dirty beige head. Good lacing. Complex nose of bourbon, vanilla, oak, canned pear syrup, graham crackers, tropical fruit cocktail, pepper, and bubblegum yeast.

Ripe fruit and peppery alcohol/hops up front. Bourbon, vanilla, and a soothing oakiness soon slip in. Sweet tropical fruits, with notes of strawberry, kiwi, and pear show up, mixing with the bourbon surprisingly nicely. Hints of some syrupy/fruity sweetness reveal themselves, along with almost-ripe banana bitterness and boozy banana bread in the finish. Lingering vanilla and bourbon and peaches. Warming, but not hot. Thick, luscious mouthfeel that really coats the mouth. Wow. Perfect, low-level, smooth carbonation. Excellent and a wonderful way to start off this very promising new "Nemesis" series!

alexgash, Feb 21, 2010
Photo of beerman207
4.53/5  rDev +9.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

A: Beer pours a cloudy dark orange with a nice pure white head that leaves lacing around the glass. Good skim left behind once the head dissipates.

S: Smell is strong of bourbon, vanilla, spiciness from the booze, and maybe even some strawberry?

T: Wow, this is where the good stuff comes in. The bourbon just hits so quickly and the vanilla tones as well as some real sweetness and even some malt I detect in the back. I do detect some faint strawberry in here and some good hop presence along with the alcohol for the finish (not bad considering the abv).

M: SMOOTH - wow is this smooth for not having any age on it. It has a creamy texture that just feels like velvet on my palate.

D: Wow. If this thing is 12%, I'm in trouble because it doesn't taste like it! Very impressive offering from Founders. I'm glad I have another to age because this should be amazing next year.

beerman207, Feb 21, 2010
Photo of orbitalr0x
4.4/5  rDev +6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Really excited to try this maple bourbon barrel aged wheat wine. Bottled 2/3/10. Pours into my glass a brilliant red orange with some hazy particulate like a fall sunset. Small white bubbles on top. Aromas feature complex layers of crisp sweet wheat, caramel and an amazing mix of bourbon, vanilla, wood and rich maple syrup. A touch of honey as well.

First sip brings crisp, dense sweet malts drenched in a wash of caramel and bourbon. Big vanilla flavors and a great kick of maple syrup. Honey and wood tones along with a kick of alcohol heat on the way down. Finishes with maple and lingering bourbon. Simply wonderful.

Mouthfeel is hefty and malty with a good mellow carbonation. A tad sweet with big viscosity. This one is a sipper and every sip is a smile. Bold, complex and flavorful, the maple really makes it. Glad I was able to try this one and look forward to more in the Nemesis series!!

orbitalr0x, Feb 20, 2010
Photo of stoutfiend27
4.28/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

12oz bottle into snifter

a-dark copper color...little to no head but not flat...there are some surviving bubbles in there...white collar surrounds the edge of the glass...

s-bourbon soaked bananas come to mind....the oakey woodsy smell is there as well but faint....some astringent alcohol makes itself known and doesnt hold back...

t-much the same as the nose up front....the bourbon soaked bananas come up to the front and then lead into some nice grainy alcohol notes....nothing typical about this wheatwhine...the maple syrup really shines through at the very end to make it seem like you ate some bourbon maple pancakes..

m-the heat from the alcohol detracts a little...but its thick and chewy and sticks to everything....

d-there is no drinkability here as far as amount to be consumed...but its a nice enough package to make you want more than one..

overall one of the most unique beers ive ever tried....it def needs some time in the cellar as this one is quite hot and the alcohol does not hold back...

stoutfiend27, Feb 20, 2010
Photo of sjccmd
4/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottled on 2/3/10.

Pours copper/orange with a very small off white head that fades immediately leaving a thin ring around the glass. The lacing is pretty sticky.

Lots of bourbon up front in the aroma. Alcohol has an initially big presence, but it mellows out revealing a complex fruity aroma of peach, mango, apricot, and passion fruit. Oak and vanilla as well.

The taste is initially surprising as to how well the alcohol is hidden, however the finish reveals a good amount of alcohol heat. The same complex fruit flavors from the aroma are in the taste, as well as maple syrup. I almost feel like rating the finish separately since it is slightly off-putting with a slightly chemical alcohol burn...but the initial flavors are so interesting and delicious that I'll average it out towards that end.

This beer has a thick and syrupy body with a nice amount of carbonation...not too much though. The finish is long and warm with some hop resin.

It is a 12% beer, but I've had equally "drinkable" beers that were more. The alcohol presence is pretty intense towards the end, but it's still an enjoyable enough beer to finish without a real fuss.

sjccmd, Feb 20, 2010
Photo of mcallister
4.5/5  rDev +8.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours an orange reddish color with various size carbonation bubbles moving at different speeds though there own universe. A small white head fades into a foamy half moon.

One of those beers that hard to quit sniffing. Sweet candied fruits, maple bourbon pancackes, some dried fruit aromas and piney hops. Date, caramel, fig, raisin and more....love it.

Complex beer with spritzy tounge tigling carbonation and so much going on. Got a case of this treat and I think it's gonna age quite nicely. Nice caramel, maple sweetness that is cut off by hop bitterness and oak tannins on the long drawn out finish. Bourbon shows through nicely, actually much beter than on some of the other maple bourbon beers I've tried from Founders. Clove, maple, dates, caramel, raisin, dried fig, and more. Thick luscious with that spritzy carbonation on the finish. Christ I'm gonna savor this case.

mcallister, Feb 19, 2010
Photo of BierFan
4/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 12 ounce bottle into a cervoise.

Appearance: Thin head settles to a ring around the edge. Hazy light amber/orange body.

Smell: Big whiskey smell. Wheat.

Taste: Everything attacing the senses at once. Whiskey barrel, good alcohol presence, and bitterness. Flavors are strong and last on the tastebuds for a while. Little maple syrup flavor which becomes much stronger as the beer warms. The beer really starts to come together once it has a chance to warm. The alcohol and whiskey flavors become less abrassive and it picks up some tobacco flavor.

BierFan, Feb 19, 2010
Photo of hardy008
4.25/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Hazy amber color with a very thin head which fades quickly. Smell is bourbon, maple, vanilla, caramel, and oak. The flavor matches the aroma. The flavor is sweet. This is a pure malt bomb.

There is some alcohol burn. Full bodied, and the carbonation is higher than I expected. A great beer, and a must to try if you get the opportunity. This beer should be ideal for aging. A definite sipper.

hardy008, Feb 19, 2010
Photo of Brew33
4.6/5  rDev +10.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Nemesis. Purchased a 4 pack at Party Town in Florence, Ky.

The color of this beer is like clover honey. Amber, fairly clear for a light colored barrel aged beer. The aroma is sweet, definitely some maple but predominately bourbon. Vanilla, oak. Excellent. The taste was sweet and very complex. A ton going on here. Some maple, some ethyl alcohol, as the beer warms it's gets increasing complex. Vanilla, oak, wheat, little to no discernable hop flavor. A slight smokiness that I really like. Great stuff. The mouthfeel was excellent. The drinkability for a 12% bourbon barrel aged beer is insane. I could happily drink 2 of these in one night. Certainly seek this out. Another Founders home run.

Brew33, Feb 18, 2010
Photo of hayesez
3.58/5  rDev -13.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

Picked up a "secret" stash of this at Bourbon & Canal. $21 for a quad.

Poured into my Bruery tulip. Pours a dark hazy burnt-amber with a bunch of floaties in there (I love those). A half-inch head appears after a forced pour, but quickly settles to a thin off-white lid on the top of my beer. No lacing on the glass.

Gotta admit that I don't have a lot of experience in the wheatwine arena...really just Oatgoop, other than this one. But this was a lot different than the Three Floyds version. The first smell I picked up was a sweet berry - strawberries, actually. Really, it smells a lot like that old drink "Big Red" used to taste...do they even make that stuff anymore? A bubble-gum like berry smell. Also some vanilla in there and a strong alcohol sting as I get my nose down into my glass. This is definitely different - but I like it!

Definitely a taste that isn't overly common. Initially I got a heavy smack of vanilla. Cream Soda like...to the point that it dominated every drink I took. Thick, creamy, heavy mouthfeel. Very sweet with some maple/vanilla attributes. Heavy grainy swallow that was very warming. A strong alcoholic burn rounds this thing out. Too much, really - it is a stinging "hot" that really hits you at the end of the drink. I'm not sure how these things age, but it really feels like a few years would smooth this out. I'm a bit turned off by the finish.

I really enjoyed the opportunity to try this beer. I think Founder's does an outstanding job with about anything they do, and this was no different. Although it is a bit too stiff on the bourbon, it pushes the envelope...I hope it gets better with some time on it. This was not a beer that I could drink in quantity, but a unique experience.

Consumed: 2/17/2010

hayesez, Feb 18, 2010
Photo of LordAdmNelson
4/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

250th review...

Been waiting for this one for a while... pours a nice caramel color with little or no head, just some wisps of white head on the side of the glass. Smell is great, with some vanilla, bourbon, oak, and big coconut. Good stuff here. Caramel, bourbon, vanilla, and again big coconut... I'm not a huge coconut fan, but still a good robust flavor here. Some alcohol comes in, but is fleeting. A bit sweet. I think it needs some time to develop. Good drinkability all around, though the sweetness and overwhelming coconut flavors hinder this a bit for me.

Glad to try, though the coconut is not necessarily my style.

LordAdmNelson, Feb 18, 2010
Photo of kirok1999
4.38/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours a dark bronzy copper with just a wisp of white foam that quickly fades.
Smells of sweet booze, bourbon, vanilla, chocolate, creamy coffee.
An even mix of vanilla and chocolate sweetness hit up front. Sweet and boozy in just the right proportion. This isn't about wheat or wine...it's about delicious sweetness, a candy bar in a glass. Mouthfeel is rich and lush.
My new favorite wheatwine.

kirok1999, Feb 18, 2010
Photo of GbVDave
4.1/5  rDev -1.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a 12oz bottle into two small snifters. Thanks to HeatherAnn for the assist!

Bottled 2/3/10

A: Pours a clear light-orange with not a trace of head. Extremely still.

S: Delicious aromas of fruity alcohol, maple syrup, oak, and a hint of fresh strawberry.

T: See above, with hints of oak, maple, bourbon, and a HUGE amount of raw alcohol.

M: Rough/hot alcohol. Fruity and spicy, with plenty of burn. Astringent and minty finish.

D: 1/2 of one of these is more than enough. I'd love to see what 6-12 months of just sitting the bottle will do to this.

GbVDave, Feb 18, 2010
Photo of waltonc
4.4/5  rDev +6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Picked this bottle up from Archer Liquors. Pours hazy orange with about a centimeter of light tan, nearly white head. Smells of bourbon, booze, brown sugar, vanilla, and a faint presence of maple syrup. Flavor follows in the scent's footsteps, with a touch of fruit as it warms up. This is a very sweet, boozy beer. But the body and flavor stand up well to the alcohol, making this a fantastic sipper. Thick bodied, with a surprisingly good level of carbonation. An over the top thick, sweet, somewhat syrupy beer, but quite good.

waltonc, Feb 18, 2010
Photo of tippebrewcrew2
4.4/5  rDev +6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

2/13/10

Founders
Nemesis
Wheat-wine aged in bourbon barrels and maple syrup barrels
Abv 12.5%

L= 4.5 Little to no carbonation with a white rim. Pours a beautiful hazy wheat orange.

S= 4.0 The finest bourbon that exist on the nose with late sniffs of sweet maple syrup. It's a very layer and complex smell. The color gives it away that this is not your average beer.

T= 4.5 wow! Up front sweet malt then it stops goes into bourbon and you think that's how its going to end no! you then get hit by maple syrup sweetness! This is a great beer. God bless you.

F= 4.5 Everything flavor has a different character. The finishing character is maple syrup sweetness. Its very smooth, soft like velvet.

D=4.5 One is truly all you need. I can imagine myself on a porch early spring late fall. The flavors could hold up in even 35 degree weather. Such big flavors and so complex. I'd love to try this beer a couple of years from now after cellaring. World class!

tippebrewcrew2, Feb 17, 2010
Photo of alcstradamus
4.35/5  rDev +4.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a nice copper/orange with a 1/4 inch of head. The smell is chock full of huge bourbon notes. The base beer for this obviously wasn't able to stand up to the barrels, although I'm not going to say that it is necessarily a bad thing because this one is beautiful. Rich vanilla and caramel notes entice me to take a sip, but first I have to stick my nose in a little while longer. I am picking up some mild clove notes as well as some crayon wax which is a weakness. Alcohol is definitely noticeable but is luckily not just a distracting heat.

The taste is rich in vanilla and clove. Wow...for as boozy as this is, it sure doesn't have any burn. The barrels definitely imparted tons of flavor, but since this is their third run it appears that most of the heat has died down. A nice maple sweetness sits on top of the booze, with some caramel and toffee as well. Somehow, despite the mouth destroying flavor, it still seems somewhat light and airy.

The body is slightly fuller than medium and carbonation is fairly low but still gives some sting. This one drinks like a fresh English Barleywine. Definitely a sipper, but a very interesting one at that. I would only probably want to revisit it once every 6 months or so. Too bad a vertical will never be possible!

Definitely worth seeking out if you like sweet, boozy barleywines.

alcstradamus, Feb 17, 2010
Photo of lightindarkness
4.18/5  rDev +0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Hazy and dense in appearance. Light hazlenutty dull orange-bronze. Thin white head simmers to little more than a thin ring of bubbles.

Smell is intoxicatingly of maple and bourbon. A little coarse grain and alcohol over wood lends an aroma nearly vinous in nature of oak aged woody fruit. Just the slightest bit funky too.

Taste is smooth. Don't expect too much common flavor out of this one, but keep an open mind. Bourbon dominates with nice smooth vanilla, but not too boozy (despite the present alcohol). Plenty of raw maple goodness without being overly sweet. Fruity, with some pear and very ripe cantaloup. Alcohol sharpens up at the end, then everything drops slightly to a tightening bitterness. Firm enough on grain to cary the other tastes, but not much to speak of in wheat flavor, except for a long lingering aftertaste well after the hops and other flavors have died down.

Thick and chewy, much what you'd expect from a wheatwine, but also a bit fumy on alcohol. Nicely creamy.

Very bourbony, with notable alcohol. Great flavors, but lacks some rounded balance. May need some age to smooth things out. Overall an uniquely bourboned and sweetened wheatwine with a lot going for it. Sippable, worth enjoying for its complexity and intriguing depth, but not attractively drinkable as an easy one to put down. Definitely leaves you wanting another sip though.

lightindarkness, Feb 16, 2010
Photo of cpmichael
4.6/5  rDev +10.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

12 oz. bottle poured into a Delirium Tremens snifter.

A: No carbonation or head to speak of. A light amber colored beer, very inviting, but surprised at the lack of head.

S: Not as aromatic as I expected. Bourbon is the most prevalent, with a sweet scent. Alcohol can be smelled, but does not suggest the high ABV. %

T: First thought, "damn, this thing is tasty." This beer is truly complex. There is a balance between bitter and sweet with this beer. The first is a bitter/biting sensation on your tongue, from the alcohol no doubt, but immediately this is followed by the sweetness of this beer. The bourbon and maple elements of this beer combine to create an awesome finish. I also notice hints of vanilla, adding to this beer's pleasantness.

M: Nemesis is lighter/ thinner than I expected (although, I have never had a wheatwine, so exceptions based on barleywines) No heaviness to this beer.

D: Founder's does it again. A great beer. For a beer at 12%, this thing is dangerous. I could easily drink the rest of my four pack tonight. I won't, because I'd pass out on the third one. This beer is delicious. I assume this is an atypical Wheatwine, but this beer does make me want to try others.

cpmichael, Feb 16, 2010
Photo of jwinship83
3.8/5  rDev -8.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

12oz bottle that was bottled on feb 3, 2010. drank from a stone IRS snifter glass.

A- this one pours out a golden colored body with orange highlights. a small and quickly vanishing white head forms. this beer is pretty still looking.

S- the nose is intense and unique. strong odor of alcohol and bourbon hit me right away. very sweet. the maple comes through faintly at the end. not much of the usual scents from a wheatwine. lots of oak and vanilla from the barrel.

T- the bourbon and alcohol that i could smell comes through just as fiercely in the taste. the barrel is in there also. vanilla, oak, and coconut. intensely sweet. very complex.

M- medium to full bodied with a very low level of carbonation. strong warming from the alcohol. very dry finish.

D- this one claims to be unique on the label, and unique it is. when it is fresh like this it has almost a liquor like feel about it. i dont think i could have more than one of these, but it is certainly a treat to savor and sip.

jwinship83, Feb 16, 2010
Photo of BEERchitect
4.33/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Holy cow?! If unique is what they're after, I think they got it.

Nemesis begins with a viscous pour of deep amber-medium copper color. Building the beer, the first half of the beer gave a dull lifelessness but after rocking the bottle for the second half of the bottle, a creamy thick white head sat atop the beer in sturdy fashion. A lot of lacing is left behind while light legging is evident.

Seriously? The aromas are fan-freakin'-tastic, but only after the initial bozy aroma of straight bourbon subsides a bit (takes about a minute- had me scared there for a... well, minute) But then the caramel, toffee, maple, sorghum, molassas notes come into play. Sweet? Sure, but tempered with the softness of sweet breads, malted milk, and cotton candy. The bourbon notes persist but ride along in conjunction with the established malts and barrel aging. Do beers smell any better than this?

Flavors are every bit as complex and seductive as aromas but the power of the alcohol and hops disrupts thing too much. Additional flavors of toffee coated peanut brittle, bourbon soaked maple candy, circus peanuts and cotton candy make the beer a really special desert for alcohol-lovin' adults. Strong bitterness interrupts the elegant sweetness that makes the beer world class. Straight ethynol (bourbon) strength propels the beer from sweet and smooth into aggression and even bullying fashion. Not all is lost, those 'sweet-tooth' moments are still hiden in there... just gotta search a little harder to find'em.

The beer is malty rich, smooth and full up and finish with a part-dry, part-malt texture (think English Barleywines). Very warming, even hot at times with the fusal alcohols the beer almost nails it. Low carbonation give a cask ale-like (kinda) texture: creamy early but releasing late for drinkability.

Notice that the descriptions of wheat are not mentioned. If it were not listed on the lable, I might have missed it.

This beer is obviously intended for long-term aging. As those fusal alcohols and aggressive bitterness rounds out, the sweeter and more elegant characteristics of the beer will shine. My cellar is going to love this beer.

BEERchitect, Feb 16, 2010
Photo of jjanega08
3.9/5  rDev -6%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A= A basically flat beer.... I had the same problem with Bells 9000 last night but I think that one may have had even more carbonation than this. A vigerous pour unleashes a small thin head. So thin I can see the beer underneath it and it doesn't last more than a second before falling to nothing at all. No lacing from the no head. The color however is somewhat pleasent looking. A nice hazy amber color pushing a mahogony darker amber color.

S= Not a lot of odor in this one either. Digging deep I get the bourbon in it. Founders has the best bourbon barrels I've ever had the pleasure of tasting beer from. The bourbon smell is just great with loads of vanilla in it and just a clean oak smell. Almost coconutty in the smell. Other than that though the smell is small. Prolly lacking from the lack of head on the beer. No maple which I was looking forward to.

T= This beer goes up from here. Again the barrels that founders has are great. Nice vanilla oaky coconut flavors in it. Not nearly as hot as I was expecting either. A hint of alcohol burn and taste but not as much as I figured there would be. Mellowed nicely by the barrel notes. Great wheaty smoothness to it and the hop bite is right on as well. The hops are one of the biggest differences in this and Backwoods Bastard from them. Nice bitterness lasts on the back of the tongue. There is a small amount of maple in the taste I suppose but I might just be imagining it because I want to.

M= No carbonation in this one... thick and chewy but not as much as I would have suspected from the lack of carbonation. The appearence does not do the mouthfeel justice. Much smoother and cleaner than the sticky mess it appeared to be.

D= Awesome barrels at founders and a fine beer. Not what I was expecting when I read about the first Nemisis realease and this one is worth seeking out. The only problem I have with this beer is the lack of carbonation.

jjanega08, Feb 16, 2010
Photo of stakem
4.53/5  rDev +9.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Poured from the usual founder's 12oz stubby brown bottle into a snifter. Bottled date of 2/3/10

Pours a clear golden orange color with a thin cap of slightly tanned/yellowish head. Spotty amounts of lace cling to the glass with each sip. The aroma has a broad array of character to offer. Sweet smells ranging from a somewhat candy/fruity sweetness to a dominating amount of vanilla. Also includes aromatic notes of slight orange/citrus hops and a bite of alcohol in the end to bring it all together. Taste is sweet upfront with lots of vanilla/oak characteristics but ample citrus hop bitterness to balance it out before the onset of the warming alcohol that gives a dry finish. Lingering tastes of hop bitterness along with vanilla oak characteristics cling to the palette while the alcohol warms the back of the throat. The alcohol is not hidden at all in this heavy bodied and lightly carbed wheatwine. Overall a very good sipper.

I had to have one of these as soon as I could. I am very excited to see what some time will do to the other bottle I have.

stakem, Feb 16, 2010
Photo of MPLS
4.43/5  rDev +6.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

Spent a fair amount of time tracking this one down around the Twin Cities, might as well pop it open before I considering cellularing the rest.

A: This is a bright colored beer, a honey-orange color, with an extremely hazy body. The head is minimal, but it is a high ABV beer. I'm have not had a lot of examples of this style, but it's glow is certainly inviting. Trace carbonation is present. A small saliva ring sticks and an amoeba swims atop the beer, changing shapes with each sip.

S: Sweetness is predominant in the nose: Maple, butterscotch, oak, vanilla, white grape alcohol. The alcohol doesn't burn the nostrils for being 12% though.

T: The sweetness is obviously king in this beer. The maple is fantastically smooth. It really reminds me pear that has been soaked in bourbon and instead of the normal fruit casing it's covered with oak the width of the smallest pencil shaving. The finish sticks around and has a very dry bourbon bite.

M: The body on this brew is pretty big, perhaps the taste leads me to think of a syrup like viscosity as it really coats the mouth leaving a butterscotch trail all the meanwhile adding a little warm. The carbonation is minimal and makes for a silky-smooth beer. I wonder if this beer will end up tasting relatively flat with a few years on it, but for now it's fantastic feeling.

D: I am guilty of having a sweet tooth and this is definitely a dessert beer. It's really pleasant for 12% alcohol. I would like to see the alcohol mellow with aging, but would be worried about the trace carbonation fading.

MPLS, Feb 15, 2010
Founders Nemesis 2009 from Founders Brewing Company
92 out of 100 based on 682 ratings.