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Founders Nemesis 2010 - Founders Brewing Company

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BA SCORE
93
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893 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 893
Reviews: 503
rAvg: 4.19
pDev: 10.5%
Wants: 212
Gots: 271 | FT: 16
Brewed by:
Founders Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
American Barleywine |  12.00% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: mcann2pu on 07-29-2010)
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Photo of Bonis
3.93/5  rDev -6.2%

A - Almost looks like a stout from a distance, holding my tulip to the light offers a very dark/deep red color. Looks fairly clear, not as dense as I would have imagined. Nice finger of head holds on for a few minutes and settles to a nice eighth inch of creamy colored bubbles. One could easily misjudge this beer as a stout or porter. Very good looking brew.

S - The first smell that hits me is freshly cut strawberries. Not the kind from the store.. the kind you grow in your garden. After this is a blast of roasted malts and dark sugar. I don't smell much hops, despite the 100 ibu marking on the bottle.

T - Starts off like a barleywine, very sweet and a smack in the face with alcohol. I get more strawberries like in the smell, but this time they are accompanied by other dark fruits, plums, figs, then the cacao bean. This transforms into a stouty-porter-DIPA. I get hints of bitter dark chocolate, creating a chalkiness common in the porter and stout. Left in the mouth is the banging bitterness you see in a DIPA. Quite complex overall, and definitely one of the most interesting beers I've tasted. The 12% ABV is felt, mostly warming in the gut.

M - Not as big as I would expect. Not much carbonation. A nice sweet alcoholy bitterness covers the inside of the mouth with each drink. I'm digging the feel of this at 12%.

D - I mean, a 12% beer is never that drinkable for me. I had no problems finishing my bottle, and that does it for me.. At least for tonight.

Bonis, Sep 06, 2010
Photo of nickadams2
4.35/5  rDev +3.8%

A_Pours black with reddish brown hue when held to light. Half inch khaki head dissipates into a thick, bubbly ring. Gobs of lacing cover the glass.

S_ Hoppy citrus, pine, and sweet malt.

T_ Surprisingly well balanced. Hops upfront but don't necessarily dominate.Citrus,pine,cherry,figs,sweet malt,cream and a hint of chocolate.Slight espresso in the aftertaste. Everything comes together beautifully.Slight alcohol burn.

M_Thick and viscous. Kind of syrupy. Coats the mouth nicely.

D_Definite sipper. Very enjoyable though.

nickadams2, Sep 06, 2010
Photo of alexgash
3.8/5  rDev -9.3%

12 oz. bottle.

Dark maple syrup brown body. Small, half-finger of light sandy brown head. Some lacing. Nose is rife with dirty hops. Piny, vegetal aromas signal substantial hop bitterness. Roasted malts, dark chocolate, and earthy black licorice mix in to create a slightly odd effect.

Roasted, bitter coffee up front. Sharp, herbal, minty hop bitterness follows, with roasted malts as well. Some dark fruit sweetness comes in. Woody, vegetal hop flavor and bitterness take over. Roasted malts and fruits fade into the background. Earthy tobacco notes in the moslty bitter, roasty finish. Medium-full body. Light carbonation with a slightly slick feel. Not bad, but might benefit from a little cellar age. We'll just have to see. Still, a big, bold brew and a pleasure to drink.

alexgash, Sep 06, 2010
Photo of biga7346
3.88/5  rDev -7.4%

(from notes)

A: Pours flat, as the beer warms a foamy sticky head forms as you swirl the glass. A deep, beautiful dense crimson to dark chocolate color. More sticky, yeasty lacing appears on the glass.

S: The nose...is...fucking...massive. The aroma fills the air around the glass with very thick notes of brandy, chocolate, old bannanas, leather and a very distinct hoppy cedar backdrop. The gathering of these very complex aromas was probably the most impressive thing about this beer to me. As the beer warms, however, the booziness becomes a little overpowering maybe could have used some more carbonation. I suggest very strongly to use a large brandy glass or a roamy wine glass to drink this beer, it really encapsulates the smell - helps distinguish between the varying and overlapping aromas.

D/T: More brandy and chocolate up front along with sugar-coated figs, vanilla bean. For a beer with so much alcohol in the smell, 100 IBUS and 12% abv, this was amazingly smooth to drink. As if they were going for a big malt and alcohol-forward beer that you can drink more than just one of (devious bastards). The cedary hop complexity I got in the nose was pretty much absent in the taste, a little disappointing I guess but a very small blip on an otherwise wonderful fall seasonal. There was a fresh cedary hops bite in the finish and the lingering after taste.

M: Slick, warming.

biga7346, Sep 06, 2010
Photo of LordAdmNelson
3.85/5  rDev -8.1%

Pours a deep brown with mahogany highlights, moderate tan head that recedes to wisps on the surface of the beer. Some lacing. Smell is a bit of a let-down, at least initially. Weak at first, it soon becomes boozy with some big sweetness, like an English barleywine. Some big moderately roasted malt notes on top of caramel and molasses. The 100 IBUs are nonexistent in the nose.

Taste is a bit different as the English-barleywine nose precedes a more American taste. Boozy and slightly sweet, caramel and rye toast malt notes give way to a long resinous hop finish. Booze is apparent, playing with the hops to give a slightly solvent-y flavor. I enjoy it, though it is far more restrained than I was hoping Nemesis would be.

MF is very smooth and velvety, going down easily. Low carbonation. Coating. Drinkability is moderate due to the booze, and, honestly, the fact that the nose doesn't really match the taste for me.

Overall, not a bad beer by far, but I am disappointed given the price I paid for it. At $12 / 4 pk. I'd buy this fairly often, but as it stands I just can't justify the $25 I paid for four of them. So far, both of the Nemesis beers have been let-downs for me (though still good beers). Please Founders, forget about this and bottle CBS!

LordAdmNelson, Sep 06, 2010
Photo of Billolick
4.3/5  rDev +2.6%

12 ounce bottle acquired at DeCicco's in Ardsley, NY.
Pours very dark amber, dense in its intensity, firm in its conviction. Next to no head, but some fine lace dected on the glass on close inspection.
Nose of embers of rum raisin, smoke, and peat, that follows through onto the palate, tongue, mouth and throat. In the finish, more smoke, some vanilla and malty goodness seal the deal.

Tasty nighcapper, bold, flavorful and quite smooth and tasty. High quality Barlery wine.

If your local quality beer broker/store owner/beer guy can get some of this stuff, do not hesitate

Billolick, Sep 06, 2010
Photo of peabody
3.8/5  rDev -9.3%

Pours out very dark brown to black with 1/4 finger of tans suds that dissapate quickly. Lots of lacing here probably because of the alcohol.
Strong fig/raisin smell with with a caramel charred malt and the alcohol in tow.
Taste is malty sweet at first then a bitterness ensues and bam the alcohol! Sits hard in the back of the throat.
Aftertaste of sweet molasses and bread and alcohol. The hop biterness only comes in after the alcohol is gone from the palate.
Drinkability is not so great. Too much alcohol here.

peabody, Sep 06, 2010
Photo of webmanspidey
4/5  rDev -4.5%

Bottle poured into an Ommegang chalice. This is a deep brown-black color with a slight head. Smell is extremely sweet... honey, molasses, and sugar-covered raisins come to mind. Some slight hoppiness lurks in the background as well. Taste is fairly grainy with a stronger hops presence than the smell, but still fairly balanced with some sweet honey-like flavors. Alcohol content is fairly high and this is a slow-sipping heavy beer.

This isn't as interesting to me as the 2009 variety of Nemesis, but this is still worth trying.

webmanspidey, Sep 06, 2010
Photo of akorsak
3.9/5  rDev -6.9%

Served on-tap at Al's.

A: The barleywine is a bold black creation, dark brown-hued so as to be black from afar. A finger plus of off-white head dissapates with little fanfare.

S: The barleywine needs some coaxing to come out of its shell. When it does, it comes with the full fury of a rich American barleywine. Citrusy hops, very strong, jump out first. They are quickly followed by thick malts, including chocolate, that have a full, fruity feel. A strong barleywine.

T: Like the nose, the hops come through first in each sip, citrusy and strong. The malts, including a bit of smokey sweetness, follow in short order. The malty body features chocolate prominently alongside the ample fruitiness that most barleywines have. A full sip, especially larger ones, bring the hops and malts together in a sweeping dose of flavor.

M: The mouthfeel, while hoppy, isn't afraid of its barleywine malt side. Both flavors, strong in their own right, pair up nicely in each sip.

D: At 12%, this beer requires limited quantity. A nice sipper, very rich.

akorsak, Sep 05, 2010
Photo of Nibbley
3.63/5  rDev -13.4%

Pours a dark garnett red with a decent 1 finger head that leaves a little lace on the glass.
Aroma of dark fruit and a bit of black licorice will big hoppy pine note, also, plenty of booze.
Mouthfeel is a little thin considering the the style.
Tastes pretty much like it smells, dark fruit, booze and pine tree.
Am hoping a few months in the cellar will bring out more complexities, we shall see.

Nibbley, Sep 05, 2010
Photo of cbutova
4.15/5  rDev -1%

16oz growler fill in NY, wish I could do these kind of things in MA. Enjoyed after seeing The Breeders live in a Philadelphia basement, awesome. Reviewed from notes.

A- Very dark brown with a tan cap that has decent retention. A nice ring regenerates itself following every sip along with a random cloud. A very nice coat of fine lace.

S- Mainly roasty caramel malt, you know it will be a strong Barleywine. There are a good amount of citrus and earthy hops too, seems to go on and off between hops/malt.

T- A Barleywine with more roast malt than usual and a unique blast of citrus fruit flavors from the hops. The balance is unlike any other Barleywine I have had. The citrus isn't very zesty, it is mostly fruity and works nicely. I also sense vanilla, cocoa and pineapple.

MF- This beer is downright hot, it was burning my throat after about 12oz. Fairly creamy thick oily body that is moderately bitter and has smooth, fine carbonation.

DB- Unique beer, it seems like a roast Barleywine with an IPA-esque hop profile. It seems like it would age pretty well because the malt character could hold on it's own. A beastly beer in multiple ways, left my throat on fire.

cbutova, Sep 05, 2010
Photo of xnicknj
4.43/5  rDev +5.7%

2 - 12 oz bottles poured into multiple taster glasses with other BAs.

A - Dark with ruby red hues and brown undertones. Minimal head and retention, although there's still a bit of spotty lacing.

S - An absolute bouquet of scents including wood, oak, vanilla, thick malts, and alcohol.

T - Plenty of caramel malts up front with some bold dark chocolate flavors which move on to oak and smooth vanilla with a bite of cocoa nibs. Bitter hops pierce through the the palate along with wood and booze warmth. The taste is complex in each level, but still pleasant. Finishes with boozy warmth, caramel, leather, and oak.

M - Thick, viscous and somewhat smooth but still bitter and rich.

D - Absolutely a slow sipper but the 12% abv is masked incredibly well. Drinks way better than expected; almost to a dangerously easy level.

This is an awesome beer with many oak, booze, and heated attributes. I believe it lives up to the hype, and might even surpass the '09 release. Age might bring down the warmth, but this is still remarkably drinkable for the style.

xnicknj, Sep 05, 2010
Photo of BierFan
3.93/5  rDev -6.2%

Poured from a 12 ounce bottle into a tulip glass.

Appearance: Half finger of khaki colored foam. Body is black like a stout.

Smell: Fruity hops with some dark malt coming through. Molasses from the malt and tropical fruit from the hops.

Taste: Mostly molasses with a little coffee from the malt. The hops give a nice bitterness with orange and tropical fruit flavors.

BierFan, Sep 05, 2010
Photo of silver0rlead
4.58/5  rDev +9.3%

Pours a very dark brown with a thin cola colored head that doesn't retain well but for a beer this strong that's to be expected. The aroma is breathtaking, with notes of Grand Marnier and orange marmalade, along with juicy citrusy hops, gourmet chocolate, kona coffee, dark fruits, molasses and toffee, vanilla and some alcohol...one of the best smelling beers I've come across. The flavor is a little less impressive than the aroma but not much, with fresh hop notes upfront (citrus, pine and resin), along with caramel and toffee, vanilla, orange marmalade, belgian chocolate and spiced rum. The mouthfeel is smooth and rich and drinkability is alarmingly good. Really exceptional brew from Founders here, tastes kind of like the most delicious Belgian truffle with orange liquor filling.

silver0rlead, Sep 05, 2010
Photo of WYVYRN527
4.35/5  rDev +3.8%

First off, I don't agree with the style. This should be renamed an imperial black IPA. It's far from any barleywine I have ever tasted.

A: Deep brown to almost black, with little light shining through. The cream-hued head dissapears quickly and leaves a film on the surface. Lacing is minimal, as to be expected with a beer like this.

S: Some alcohol is present on the nose, but very faint. Resinous, citrusy and grassy notes dominate, with some roasty, burnt aromas lingering in the backround.

T: Hops dominate at first, with some pineapple, lemon peel, and fresh grass, followed by some roasted malt, chocolate, and earth. It finishes very clean, and there is almost no alcohol present.

M: Full bodied and viscous. Hops give this beer an oily feeling in the mouth that lingers for eons.

D: An excellent brew. Founders has done it again. Once again, I don't agree with the style, but then again, this is something of a different color. It's worth the price, and will surely cellar well over the next year or so.

WYVYRN527, Sep 05, 2010
Photo of LiquidCucumber
4.33/5  rDev +3.3%

A - Pours a deep, deep brown which turns black in the glass, not much head but a ring sticks around and in turn leaves nice lacing.

S - I can't be sure, but this smells kind of like a piney DIPA. I guess that's somewhat to be expected. Decent hit of dark malts which impart a certain roasty smell.

T - Caramel malts followed quickly by a venerable porcupine of IBUs jumping all over your tongue on the way down. Some fruit and a touch of that roasted smell comes through as flavor, but not much.This is a strong brew in more ways than one.

M - Quite light for a 12% beer, but still coats your mouth with a sticky resinous layer.

D - Way to easy to drink this stuff if you are a lover of the enamel-wrenching hops; otherwise you might want to sit on it until the roasted characteristics reveal themselves, maybe in a year or two.

LiquidCucumber, Sep 05, 2010
Photo of generalnotsew
4.43/5  rDev +5.7%

Very very dark but not quite black molasses color with no head and very minimal lacing. Smell is rich chocolate and dark fruit. Kind of reminds me of a Belgian Strong Dark Ale. Mmmmm. All of the flavors mix very well together. The sweet chocolate, bitterness and dark fruit meld into one. You can't really pick them apart. Also note this beer is very sugary. More than most beers I know. Bitterness is nicely present as well. I admit I did not care for any Black IPA I have had but this Black American Barleywine is quite nice. Most unique tasting beer I had in awhile.

generalnotsew, Sep 04, 2010
Photo of MbpBugeye
4/5  rDev -4.5%

Very excited about this one. Last years was fantastic. Ive never had a black barleywine but it was the logical next step spurred from the popularity of black IPAs.

A- Poured straight into a snifter. It is indeed black. Not stout thick, but just as dark. Some light can pass creating umber highlights. Next to no head, even with a rough pour. Bubbles do form a thick collar though which stays around and leaves lots of little pearls of lace.

S- Very similar to many black IPAs Ive had. Very spicy hops come second to some molasses, caramel, roastiness, raisin and a touch of chocolate. The roastiness is light but adds to the spiciness of the hops.

T- The best part of the taste is the little flashes of chocolate that come every once in a while. Bitter and sweet is the name of the game here. Malts are sweet, fruity, sugary and roasty and hops are piney, citric and medicinal.

M- Full bodied with a creamy carbonation.

Last years was much better. This is a good and interesting beer, but just not my type of thing.

MbpBugeye, Sep 04, 2010
Photo of JoshRadTxist
4.03/5  rDev -3.8%

So glad I picked this up because for one thing, I need a 12%er tonite. Hence this review may be biased.

A: Black plum-molasses color, amber tinted where the light shines through the bubbles stuck on the side of the glass. Very minimal head is tan. Lacing very intense and scintillating in the lamplight.

S: Not so much getting the hops in the nose. Cookie dough, sugar, ok-raisins, a rather mild sweet aroma.

T: If hops are not in the nose for me, they're in the taste. First taste is primarily hopcentric rather than malty. Great clean mineral bitterness turns to soy-sweet malt, then a subtle honey aftertaste. Belch brings back the hop.

M: Average for the style, thick and chewy. Finishes clean, not dry, but clean

D: Sipper for the fact your body obviously doesn't want much of this fast. It's not cloying in the taste. It's just that I am content to sip, wait five minutes, sip again. Like the Nemesis has restraint built in. + points for that!

I'm a big fan of this brew; I suppose it's even worth the $4.75!

JoshRadTxist, Sep 04, 2010
Photo of bs870621345
4.22/5  rDev +0.7%

Pours a dark brown with amber highlights when held up to light. Has an half inch of head that fades leaving almost no lacing.

Smells of molasses, citrus (orange/pineapple), caramel, and coffee in there. No alcohol presence.

Taste is mostly citrus up front, sweet caramel/molasses in the middle and towards the end, with a gentle alcohol burn on the end. Very pleasant...want to see what happens in a few months.

Mouthfeel is full and sticky, good for a barleywine.

Drinkability is low, its a sipper for sure. Inviting but only would want to sip this one.

bs870621345, Sep 03, 2010
Photo of pdoran10
3.98/5  rDev -5%

pours out a surprising jet black with two fingers of tan head. hey its a black barleywine! lacing is impressive. it looks like i am drinking FBS.

smell is fusel alchohol right away. hey its a big fresh barleywine, i guess i should expect it to be hot. subsides into beautiful pineapple and mango scents.

taste is big impressive pineapple hops up front! amazing unique hop profile big pineapple flavor.
pineapple
pineapple
pineapple
then some roasted malt that is delicious and becomes more prominent as it warms. finishes hot and boozy not enough to be a huge flavor issue.

mouthfeel is lovelty big smooth, substantial, with just enough carbonation. much win here.

drinkability isnt great a big time sipper even witthout being hot and boozy. one is enough. also -

water : wicked witch = nemesis : your teeth's enamel.

pdoran10, Sep 03, 2010
Photo of maximum12
3.2/5  rDev -23.6%

Picked up a 4 pack of this at Dennis Bros a couple days ago & have been thinking about it ever since. The 2009 was insanely good, so I'm thinking there's no place to go but down. Right? Hope not!

Pour is a bit of a surprise, a red so dark it appears to be black until held up to the revealing light of the sun (or clouds, today). The nose is smash-mouth, roundhouse, iron-club of hops. Wow. This smells more like a IIPA than 3/4 of the IIPAs I've had. Alcohol, too, is very apparent.

Nemesis 2010 is a corrosive mix of caramel, hops, hops, & sickly malts. The caramel is a big blast out front, quickly shunted aside by a cream of hops, which are shushed & kicked by the malts...which have a weird, almost oxidized taste to them. I think it's just the high IBUs mixing strangely with the sweetness of the malts, but I'm not sure, & it throws a bit of a wet blanket over the whole experience for me. As it warms the odd taste retreats into the background a bit.

Well carbonated for a barleywine, smooth as a baby's butt in your mouth, or something. I don't think I could take more than a bottle of this, the alcohol, while not strong on the tongue, is warming the depths of my bowels like an October bonfire.

Well...pretty good. Always expect a unique angle from Founders, but unlike the vast majority of their beers, which I adore, this one missed the bullseye for me. I bought a case of the 2009, I don't see myself buying more of the 2010. Am interested to see how it ages, though. Into the cellar with you other three lads!

maximum12, Sep 03, 2010
Photo of kzoobrew
4.13/5  rDev -1.4%

You would be safe to call this a Black Barleywine. Only when held directly to a very bright light can you see the faintest red highlights. Two finger antique head head slowly recedes to a slim cap. Surprising amount of lacing is left encompassing the glass.

Dark aromas dominate the nose. This is a hoppy beer but the hops have a hard time breaking through. Roasted malt, dark chocolate and cherry aromas are strong. Booze and molasses are secondary smells but meld well with the stronger notes.

The hops may have been missing from the nose but they are assertive on the tongue. Strong pine and grapefruit pithy bitterness. Slight citrus flavors come and go through out. Deep roasted malt flavor and caramelized sugars. The complexity I anticipated was not there but I cannot complain about the flavor as a whole. Warming booziness is noted but not offensive.

Full bodied but not thick. Low carbonation is very appropriate. Creamy texture, drinks very smooth. Deep flavors and biting bitterness dig into the palate for a long finish.

This is a sipper, no doubt about it. Flavors are big and bold, not going to be pleasing to everyone. I for one am a fan. Nemesis 2010 is well constructed and delicious. May not be the easiest to drink but I will call it enjoyable. Worth the search.

kzoobrew, Sep 03, 2010
Photo of caskstrength
3.7/5  rDev -11.7%

Fresh bottle.

Dark red/black pour. Nice carbonation. Excited to drink this.

Smells are very hoppy, piney. Sweet. Some dark fruit. Smells barleywinesque, which is expected I guess.

Tastes are sweet piney hops right away. some darker sweet fruits then appear. a bit of roasted malt goodness too. Alcohol there, not distracting however.
Nothing surprising shows up.

Thick, rich ,and a bit sticky. Enough carbonation, which is nice. Goes down pretty easy.

This is a good beer. But it's not much more than an (slightly above) average run of the mill hopped up barleywine. I don't taste any diabolical brewing either. So I don't know if it lives up to the "NEMESIS" hype.

caskstrength, Sep 03, 2010
Photo of TCgoalie
4.88/5  rDev +16.5%

Pours a dark, dark brown color with minimum head. Some head can be manualy created from agitation with some residue around the edges lingering. Not much lacing. The appearance is not that impressive, but decent considering the style.

The nose is pleasant with an essence of chocolate, molasses, raison, and a lot of heat. I am also detecting woody bourbon with a hint of cherries. Each smell seems to conjure a new smell which is one of my favorite nose features of a beer.

Oh yes. This is a delicious drink even fresh. I'm excited to try this again with some age under its belt. Up front is a dose of chocolate with a wonderful woody note. This transitions to some bitterness that takes the form of a coffee like taste. All the while chocolate and molasses exist as an undertone throughout. Some raison and red grape is present along with some bitter hop or coffee presence, it is hard to say. The heat that is present in the nose is hardly noticeable in the taste. You are left with a silky smooth brew which tastes like a cross between a stout and a barleywine.

The mouthfeel is a Founders like medium in the mouth. They don't seem to produce many heavy in the mouth type beers. It is smooth but should likely improve with age. A nice drying and pleasant coffee like aftertaste lingers.

This is the best barleywine I've had to date. Founder's has delivered once again making me more excited for Nemesis 2011.

TCgoalie, Sep 03, 2010
Founders Nemesis 2010 from Founders Brewing Company
93 out of 100 based on 893 ratings.