Founders Nemesis 2010 - Founders Brewing Company

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911 Ratings
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Ratings: 911
Reviews: 504
rAvg: 4.19
pDev: 10.74%
Wants: 212
Gots: 270 | FT: 15
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Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
American Barleywine |  12.00% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: mcann2pu on 07-29-2010)
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Photo of cochell
3.95/5  rDev -5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

The 2010 Nemesis is a superhero's worst nightmare. This brew inflicts retribution or vengeance on the palette. At first glance the Nemesis is black and dense; when I held it to the light I noticed a dark reddish hue on the edge of my glass revealing the Nemesis's true color. The head is of thick foam russet in color that retreats quickly to the outer edges of the glass and dissipates lacing the goblet with a round ring.
I took a big whiff of this Juggernaut. Then plotted like Dr. Doom as to my next move. Another mighty sniff revealed a perfume of hops, chocolate, floral, pineapple and booze. The nose was so amazing in knew this brew would surely offer frenzy of flavors in the first sip.
Grabbing the goblet, with nearly Magneto like powers, I thrust the glass high into the air. The first sip was smooth; Very similar to the nose but with subtle pine and citrus to compliment the malt and chocolate notes. Then the enormous hop bitterness was like Venom to my mouth. It delightfully burned and spiked my tongue with a tingle of orange, citrus and pine followed closely by the Onslaught of burn from the alcohol.
Mouth feel is medium with a sticky back end, woody and acidic on the swallow. This 100 IBU 12% ABV brew does not disappoint but in large doses, like any super villain, could decimate all. I did finish all 12 ounces but realize afterwards 8 ounces would be plenty for this slow sipper.

Photo of jt31914
4.58/5  rDev +9.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

Had it on-tap yesterday and then in a bottle today

A: Black, or at least very very dark brown. Not much lacing or carbonation, but that's to be expected.

S: Booze, barley, dark malt/chocolate almost. Nice hops as well. An interesting smell, but probably the weakest part of the beer.

T: Phenomenal! I much prefer this to '09. Heavy barley and dark malt tastes mixing on the palate, with a nice faint nuttiness to balance out the strength of the flavors. Also, some alcohol heat on the finish, but it is almost welcome warmth to me.

M/D: Smooth, almost velvety like bourbon as it sits in your mouth, and then finishes just as smooth. Admittedly not overly drinkable, but for the style it's in my top 5 for sure.

Photo of Beejay
4/5  rDev -4.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Very dark brown, a bit of a strong pour is required to kick up some head, but what is there is a nice tan color. Good lacing.

S: Molasses and malt. A hint of dark cocoa powder. The hops come out in the finish, Earthy with a hint of spruce.

T: Nice roasted notes, chocolate and molasses right up front. The hops hit in the finish, strong earthy and pungent. The alcohol is well hidden in this guy.

M: Mid to heavy bodied, fairly smooth on the tongue, with a nice amount of carbonation.

D: Nice overall, but not quite as awesome as last year's batch. Good hopiness, and the booze is well hidden in the malt and hops, though some comes through as it warms.

Photo of Wiid
3.78/5  rDev -9.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured into a DFH snifter.

A - This beer pours a dark, dark brown -- basically black. Carbonation is low with next to no head. Lacing is on the medium/light end.

S - Sweet, smokey, syrupy malts come through strongest. Lots of alcohol. Hints of caramel. The nose here is fairly light.

T - Sweet, Smokey chocolate. Very similar to aroma. The alcohol is masked a little better than last year's offering but it is still very much there. Lots of warmth throughout.

M - Medium body. The creamy texture evenly covers the mouth light carbonation. Very nice.

D - Due to the high ABV, this is slow sipper. This is a perfect nightcapper and I couldn't imagine drinking more than one of these, let alone another beer of any kind, in the same evening. I enjoyed this beer a lot. However, given the choice between this and the '09, I'd have to say the '09 is the winner for me in overall enjoyment. Just personal preference.

Photo of BEERchitect
4.47/5  rDev +6.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A delicious and truly malty Dopplebock. This beer religates any sweetness to a supportive role in favor of toast and malts balanced with the breadth of IPA-like IPA's.

The pour delivers a dark brown beverage with a very creamy but dense viscocity. Medium (maybe light) carbonation steadily forms a froathy tan head that retains and laces very well. Dark for a Barleywine, this beers color rivals those of Porters and Brown Ales.

True malt aromas rise from the glass and give the impression of medium toast and Whoppers candies. Heavy cream and vanilla decorate the bready base while piney hops add balance and intrigue.

Toasty and malty flavors ensue with only mild sweetness but true malt. Low on fruity esters, this allows the hop profile of earthy and resiny pine notes to transition the early toast flavor into a dry and fleeting bitterness and deeply resiny linger. Tree bark, fresh cut grasses, and a gin-like spruce note can also be found as the beer warms.

Medium, maybe high creaminess at the onset but the beer soon settles into a malty-rich mid palate and fades nicely into a toasty, malty-dry finish. It's outstanding in the way this beer goes from creamy-rich-dry without waivering in it's malt character. The hop intesity grows with each sip and assists the dryness in the end. This beer remains firm yet effortless to drink- reminds me of both Celebrator Dopplebock and Stone's Arrogant Bastard.

Photo of drabmuh
3.95/5  rDev -5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Beer is black / brown at the corners with no head, low carbonation nad almost no lacing.

Slight alcohol in the nose of the beer. Lots and lots of malt here.

Beer is slightly hot and dry. Pretty roasty in the back with a strong lingering bitterness from some mild hopping. Not being a huge barleywine fan, this beer is really really good. Very drinkable, I hope it calms down in the front, that would make it considerably better.

Photo of david131
3.75/5  rDev -10.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

A- A deep, dark, but clear brown liquid with enough light getting through at the edges to give it some orange highlights. The off-white head is thin and splotchy but turns to a thick and creamy mocha brown with some swirls.

S- Pineapple, loads of citrus, alcohol, passion fruit, and a touch or caramel and smoke. A touch alcohol heavy for my tastes, but everything else is spot on.

T- Sticky sweet caramel at first followed by some fruit, alcohol, and some nuttiness. Seems to fall flat on the finish. Not as complex as the aroma.

M- Very smooth body with an excellent carbonation level. The hops and alcohol combine to leave a lasting bitter finish.

D- The alcohol is apparent and the flavors are underwhelming. I wanted to love this, but it is just a monster barleywine. Not bad by any means. It will most likely get better with a bit of time in the bottle.

Photo of SShelly
4.08/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Pours is blackish with large white, tons of retention and lacing, nice looking draft.

Aroma is hoppy with some dark malt and smokiness.

Flavor is a large burst of bitterness up front with nice citrus hops and quote a bit of backend sweetness and a suprisingly amour of roast on the backend of the sip as well.

This beer has giant alcohol and warming, kinda tool me off guard after 3-4 sips of not noticing it and then going "wow alcohol!". A great offering from founders.

Photo of StarlightSeraph
4.55/5  rDev +8.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Poured from a 12 oz bottle into a snifter.

Appearance: Pours incredibly dark, practically black, with one finger of off-white head, that subsides fairly quickly. Tons of lacing.

Smell: Hops, hops, and more hops. Notes of citrus, grassy hops, and tobacco, but backed by a sweet smell of roasted malts in the background. The sweetness serves to accent the hoppy notes. Great smelling beer.

Taste: Lots of bitter hops right away. Boozy, too. The hops linger in the background for the entire sip, but the initial bite quickly fades into a caramel, syrupy malt sweetness. The sweetness doesn't overpower, but simply takes a little bit of the edge off of the hops. The beer is definitely bitter, but not so to be overpowering - the raw hop flavor really comes through. I wouldn't say it's overly complex, however - but that being said, it's a great tasting beer.

Mouthfeel: Nice and thick and creamy, which helps support all of the intense flavors.

Drinkability: Phenomenal beer. It is definitely hoppier than most barleywines, even for an American-style one. Some may prefer a little bit more complexity, and I would be tempted to age one, but I'm afraid it would lose the hop flavors, which are a major part of this beer. I thoroughly enjoyed it, and would have it again. Despite the high ABV, it's hard to sip this one - it's too good.

Photo of TurdFurgison
4.43/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

I picked up a 4-pack today, the only 2010 4-pack I was able to get my hands on (earlier this year I got nearly a case of the 2009). I'm not a fan of American barleywines but I'm also not a fan of wheatwines and Founders showed me that even those can be phenomenal. So here we are.

The beer is dark brown, not quite opaque, with burgandy edges that let light through. Light tan foam on top, large bubbles, spitty-looking lace. The beer smells like a very strong black IPA, roasted malts and citrusy hops. Actually I like the smell a lot more than most American barleywines I've had, this is more like a black DIPA. Same with the taste, the malts are presented with roasted and nutty flavors rather than sweet anti-hops. This is definitely a black DIPA in my opinion, and a very good one.

The body is thicker than water but not as thick as I thought it would be with 12% ABV. As it warms up the mouthfeel seems even more substantial, nicely coating all that it touches.

Another solid winner from Founders, although I'm not really sure it's worth $20.99 per 4-pack. KBS might be worth that amount but Nemesis 2010 is about equivalent to Black Rye (enjoyment-wise), which went for $12 per 4-pack last I remembered.

Photo of pmlondrigan
4.2/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

Hmmm, don't usually drink barleywines. Very dark with an off white/eggshell half finger head that fades to a thin head. Kinda sorta clings to the glass. Light ruby red, brown around the lighted edges. Strong aroma of pine, cedar, and sweet malts. Very syrupy aroma. Nice layered flavors, malts up front with hops coming in second and there is some real roasty/chocolate that is faint but there. Strong bitter component to this beer. You would never know its so strong. It would be easy to have a few of these if it were not for the alcohol content.

Photo of WeisGuy
3.63/5  rDev -13.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3

a - pours just a shade short of black, one-finger light tan head with retention around the edges and light lacing

s - very strong dark chocolate aroma with substantial piney hop notes, light caramel, fairly hot and boozy

t - like the nose, dark chocolate and piney hops dominate the taste, lighter caramel notes, finish is rather bitter and dry with a substantial boozy heat lingering on the palate, really more reminiscent of a hoppy imperial stout than a barleywine to my palate

m - full-bodied, moderate to lower carbonation, dry finish, lots of alcohol warming

d - not overly drinkable, rather harsh on the palate and not terribly interesting, fairly boozy as well, the dry finish does help somewhat

Not one of Founders' best efforts, in my opinion. Solid beer, but not worth the $5/bottle, especially when the phenomenal Breakfast Stout can be had for half the price and less of a hunt.

Photo of crossovert
3.2/5  rDev -23.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

12 oz bottle.

It pours into my snifter a thick black with a foamy off-white head. The head sticks for s good while and leaves some nice lacing.

The smell is an interplay between roasty, sweet, and hoppy. The roasted chocolate character is most noticeable along with a huge sweetness and a burst of alcohol. The hops linger underneath with a bit of citrus.

The flavor is like you would expect, all of the place. I haven't had a black ipa/barleywine yet that has spoken to me. It has a huge bitterness that is more like smoky hoppy coffee than anything. There is also a huge alcoholic kick and sweetness. It is like a messy devil dancer.

If you love cloying sweetness, rauchbier, and bitter hops all together you'll like this. Too mishmashed for me though.

Photo of GbVDave
4.35/5  rDev +3.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a 12oz bottle into a Dogfish Head snifter.

Bottled 07/14/10

A: Pours a really dark, maple syrup brown. No light getting through except at the very edges where it was dark burgundy. 1 1/2 fingers of creamy and bubbly dark tan foam spreads out on top and sticks around for ages. Plentiful sheets and webs of lace were left behind.

S: Sharp hoppy aromas of pine and grapefruit as soon as the cap was pried off. Soon it settled into a nice groove of hops, brown sugar, roasty malt, raisins steeped in rum, and at the end, solvent alcohol.

T: Close to above but with the main exception being the alcohol. Way hotter in the taste than the nose. Not a deal breaker by any means, but very apparent. Very complex with interesting dark fruit and maybe a touch of dark roasty coffee.

M: Starts malty and sweet with some obvious hop spiciness. This spice gradually leads into more and more hot, boozy, pricklyness. Slightly oily in the middle with the hot and boozy astringency scraping any traces of syrup right off the tongue. Just when I thought the hot finish was going to be the deal breaker, it quickly shut down and left just the flavor of dark roasty malts to linger on the tongue.

D: Overall, I felt this was superior to the '09 Nemesis. Yeah I know they're like apples and oranges, but this felt like a more thoroughly realized experiment. Can't wait to see what the 2011 will be like!

Photo of bobhits
2.85/5  rDev -32%
look: 4.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

It seems I missed the message that Nemisis is going to be a new beer every year. After the wonderful 2009 maple bourbon barrel aged wheat wine I was dreaming of 10 year verticals with that gem of a beer. I was rather happy to see the 2010 out so I could sample that beer once again fresh and start building towards a vertical. The problem sadly is that I fount myself opening a thick, hoppy, barley wine?

This beer is nearly black, thick, with a strong head with decent lacing (darn impressive at 12%).

It doesn't have the strongest nose but the hops and powerful malt presence are there.

100 IBU's but not all that hoppy by "hoppy barely wine" standards. Dates, raisins, dark malts, mixed with a nice bitter finish.

As one would expect thick, somewhat syrupy, low in carbonation, with an alcohol and hop bite to finish it.

This 12 oz bottle has nearly vanished so it's rather drinkable. The problem is really if that's the goal. I like a beer like this to take a bit longer to finish.

I've tried to get away from commenting on price but hell...this just isn't enough to justify the price. There's no oak aging that I can tell going on here. This is just a big beer for the price of something that's expensive to make. I simply cannot recommend this in a 4 pack...if you can get a single or find it on tap by all means give it a try.

Photo of david18
3.65/5  rDev -12.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

I had a small glass of this at George Keeley's on manhattan's upper west side. It's been a few months since founders was introduced to New York and ever since the brands have been pouring in. This is one I hadn't had yet and I enjoyed it very much. Very dark in color with nice carbonation. Aroma is impressive and the flavor is quite good.

Photo of jsh420
3.68/5  rDev -12.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

bottled 07/14/10

pours dark dark brown - held to the light you can see the ruby highlights - 1/2 finger head that faded fast and left no lacing

smells predominantly of chocolate malt with hints of floral hops

taste - i dont care what they call this it is not a barleywine - they should have called it Black Centennial IPA - to me this is their ipa with some roasted chocolate malt

mouthfeel is thin light and flat - it may be smooth but rather boring

drinkability is ok - for a 12% beer it is scary good but at $5+ dollars a bottle it falls short

Photo of CurtisLoew
4.33/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Wow, a lot going on here.

A - Pours a dark brown with a tiny sliver of a dark cream/mocha head. Looks dark brown, almost black, and appears very dark ruby red through the light.

S - The smell is hops and barleywine, with the hops fading and the barleywine become more pronounced as it warms. In fact, it almost smells like a hoppy imperial red ale.

T - To me, the taste is very complex and great. The 100 IBU's is very well hidden, and the hops blend in nicely with the rest of the beer. I taste hops, figs, dark fruits, and dark chocolate in the back taste. Man, this beer is delicious. I would best describe it as a hoppy barleywine/imperial red/porter mix

M - Has a thick syrupy mouthfeel.

D - This is a sipper, but VERY drinkable for a 12% barleywine. As opposed to other BA reviews, I actually think it hides the ABV very well.

I really enjoyed this beer, and wish I could have grabbed more than one. If this was a yearly release, and cheaper than the $6/bottle I paid, this would always be in my fridge.

Photo of Bonis
3.93/5  rDev -6.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A - Almost looks like a stout from a distance, holding my tulip to the light offers a very dark/deep red color. Looks fairly clear, not as dense as I would have imagined. Nice finger of head holds on for a few minutes and settles to a nice eighth inch of creamy colored bubbles. One could easily misjudge this beer as a stout or porter. Very good looking brew.

S - The first smell that hits me is freshly cut strawberries. Not the kind from the store.. the kind you grow in your garden. After this is a blast of roasted malts and dark sugar. I don't smell much hops, despite the 100 ibu marking on the bottle.

T - Starts off like a barleywine, very sweet and a smack in the face with alcohol. I get more strawberries like in the smell, but this time they are accompanied by other dark fruits, plums, figs, then the cacao bean. This transforms into a stouty-porter-DIPA. I get hints of bitter dark chocolate, creating a chalkiness common in the porter and stout. Left in the mouth is the banging bitterness you see in a DIPA. Quite complex overall, and definitely one of the most interesting beers I've tasted. The 12% ABV is felt, mostly warming in the gut.

M - Not as big as I would expect. Not much carbonation. A nice sweet alcoholy bitterness covers the inside of the mouth with each drink. I'm digging the feel of this at 12%.

D - I mean, a 12% beer is never that drinkable for me. I had no problems finishing my bottle, and that does it for me.. At least for tonight.

Photo of nickadams2
4.35/5  rDev +3.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A_Pours black with reddish brown hue when held to light. Half inch khaki head dissipates into a thick, bubbly ring. Gobs of lacing cover the glass.

S_ Hoppy citrus, pine, and sweet malt.

T_ Surprisingly well balanced. Hops upfront but don't necessarily dominate.Citrus,pine,cherry,figs,sweet malt,cream and a hint of chocolate.Slight espresso in the aftertaste. Everything comes together beautifully.Slight alcohol burn.

M_Thick and viscous. Kind of syrupy. Coats the mouth nicely.

D_Definite sipper. Very enjoyable though.

Photo of alexgash
3.8/5  rDev -9.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

12 oz. bottle.

Dark maple syrup brown body. Small, half-finger of light sandy brown head. Some lacing. Nose is rife with dirty hops. Piny, vegetal aromas signal substantial hop bitterness. Roasted malts, dark chocolate, and earthy black licorice mix in to create a slightly odd effect.

Roasted, bitter coffee up front. Sharp, herbal, minty hop bitterness follows, with roasted malts as well. Some dark fruit sweetness comes in. Woody, vegetal hop flavor and bitterness take over. Roasted malts and fruits fade into the background. Earthy tobacco notes in the moslty bitter, roasty finish. Medium-full body. Light carbonation with a slightly slick feel. Not bad, but might benefit from a little cellar age. We'll just have to see. Still, a big, bold brew and a pleasure to drink.

Photo of biga7346
3.88/5  rDev -7.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

(from notes)

A: Pours flat, as the beer warms a foamy sticky head forms as you swirl the glass. A deep, beautiful dense crimson to dark chocolate color. More sticky, yeasty lacing appears on the glass.

S: The nose...is...fucking...massive. The aroma fills the air around the glass with very thick notes of brandy, chocolate, old bannanas, leather and a very distinct hoppy cedar backdrop. The gathering of these very complex aromas was probably the most impressive thing about this beer to me. As the beer warms, however, the booziness becomes a little overpowering maybe could have used some more carbonation. I suggest very strongly to use a large brandy glass or a roamy wine glass to drink this beer, it really encapsulates the smell - helps distinguish between the varying and overlapping aromas.

D/T: More brandy and chocolate up front along with sugar-coated figs, vanilla bean. For a beer with so much alcohol in the smell, 100 IBUS and 12% abv, this was amazingly smooth to drink. As if they were going for a big malt and alcohol-forward beer that you can drink more than just one of (devious bastards). The cedary hop complexity I got in the nose was pretty much absent in the taste, a little disappointing I guess but a very small blip on an otherwise wonderful fall seasonal. There was a fresh cedary hops bite in the finish and the lingering after taste.

M: Slick, warming.

Photo of LordAdmNelson
3.85/5  rDev -8.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a deep brown with mahogany highlights, moderate tan head that recedes to wisps on the surface of the beer. Some lacing. Smell is a bit of a let-down, at least initially. Weak at first, it soon becomes boozy with some big sweetness, like an English barleywine. Some big moderately roasted malt notes on top of caramel and molasses. The 100 IBUs are nonexistent in the nose.

Taste is a bit different as the English-barleywine nose precedes a more American taste. Boozy and slightly sweet, caramel and rye toast malt notes give way to a long resinous hop finish. Booze is apparent, playing with the hops to give a slightly solvent-y flavor. I enjoy it, though it is far more restrained than I was hoping Nemesis would be.

MF is very smooth and velvety, going down easily. Low carbonation. Coating. Drinkability is moderate due to the booze, and, honestly, the fact that the nose doesn't really match the taste for me.

Overall, not a bad beer by far, but I am disappointed given the price I paid for it. At $12 / 4 pk. I'd buy this fairly often, but as it stands I just can't justify the $25 I paid for four of them. So far, both of the Nemesis beers have been let-downs for me (though still good beers). Please Founders, forget about this and bottle CBS!

Photo of Billolick
4.3/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

12 ounce bottle acquired at DeCicco's in Ardsley, NY.
Pours very dark amber, dense in its intensity, firm in its conviction. Next to no head, but some fine lace dected on the glass on close inspection.
Nose of embers of rum raisin, smoke, and peat, that follows through onto the palate, tongue, mouth and throat. In the finish, more smoke, some vanilla and malty goodness seal the deal.

Tasty nighcapper, bold, flavorful and quite smooth and tasty. High quality Barlery wine.

If your local quality beer broker/store owner/beer guy can get some of this stuff, do not hesitate

Photo of peabody
3.8/5  rDev -9.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Pours out very dark brown to black with 1/4 finger of tans suds that dissapate quickly. Lots of lacing here probably because of the alcohol.
Strong fig/raisin smell with with a caramel charred malt and the alcohol in tow.
Taste is malty sweet at first then a bitterness ensues and bam the alcohol! Sits hard in the back of the throat.
Aftertaste of sweet molasses and bread and alcohol. The hop biterness only comes in after the alcohol is gone from the palate.
Drinkability is not so great. Too much alcohol here.

Founders Nemesis 2010 from Founders Brewing Company
93 out of 100 based on 911 ratings.