Seneca Indian Pale Ale - Mountain State Brewing Co.

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Seneca Indian Pale AleSeneca Indian Pale Ale

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Ratings: 109
Reviews: 28
rAvg: 3.37
pDev: 15.43%
Wants: 0
Gots: 17 | FT: 0
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Mountain State Brewing Co. visit their website
West Virginia, United States

Style | ABV
American IPA |  5.20% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: WVbeergeek on 10-10-2005

A highly hopped, moderate bodied beer which comes in at 5.4% ABV. The hops schedule includes healthy doses of Chinook, Cascade, and Amarillo, and is tuned perfectly to provide the hops bitterness explosion that IPA fans seek without a lingering bitter aftertaste.
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Photo of WVbeergeek
2.28/5  rDev -32.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

It's nice to see bottles from MSBC but they are not bottled in Thomas, WV or Morgantown, WV or Deep Creek, MD. These guys have done great for themselves with beer and pizza in WV, I hear they have a great place in Morgantown in the Wharf District the original place is legendary in Thomas, and I'm sure the Deep Creek locale is making folks happy at the lake. I was happy to see a Mountain state beer bottled then I read the fine print and found brewed and bottled by Peabody Heights Brewery Baltimore, MD. The same folks who brew the Raven Lager and other Edgar Allen Poe influenced brews. Pours a bright copper slightly off white head, fine speckled lacing. Aroma has pine and tart citrus notes with a dank West Virginia kind bud quality about it. Flavor...very muted hop pellet bitterness with an unapproachable malt character this is really poorly brewed IPA there's three hop varieties but there's one acrid lingering bitterness roughness in each sip, it's sad. Flavors are not cohesive the excitement of the bottle ended in let down again and again between the brewing location and poor quality of the ale. It's a fresh bottle no issues with age here, it's just not good. Mouthfeel is medium bodied carbonation is even lingering harshness between sips, what a poorly executed IPA somebody go back to the drawing board or pay somebody else to make this beer it's never been this bad on tap in the state of West Virginia.

Photo of bamojr
3.26/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

very hazy amber pour with a small white head and quick dissipation. It had very little aroma and an overall unimpressive smell. It was quite tasty with a very low hop concentration and I got what I thought were some nice oak notes. It had a bit of a watery feel but was very crisp which gave it great drinkability and a good mouthfeel.

Photo of Treyliff
3.38/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.5

A- pours a clear golden-amber color with a two-finger thick and creamy white head that retains well after the pour, leaving frothy lace behind

S- grainy toasted malt with a bit of doughy bread, floral/perfume, hop aromas a there but not as pronounced as expected

T- toasted malt with some caramel sweetness, the hops are muffled at first, with just a bit of dry bitterness on the finish. Notes of grass and pine

M- medium body and carbonation with a super creamy mouthfeel, leads to a silky finish and high drinkability

O- this drinks more like an amber ale. It's not bad, but just too malt dominant for an IPA.

Photo of tone77
3.47/5  rDev +3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a brown 12 oz. bottle. Has a copper color with a 1/2 inch head. Smell is mild, a bit of malts, hops seem to be lacking. Taste is of some hops, lots of malts, tasty and balanced, but lacking the bitterness and oomph of an American IPA. Feels medium bodied in the mouth and overall is a decent beer, but if you are looking for a hop bomb, keep on looking.

Photo of Jredner
3.92/5  rDev +16.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Draft at the Hole in the Wall Pub in Snowshoe Mountain, WV. The aroma is very citric and mildly sweet, but it’s a fresh natural sweetness. Fairly enticing. The body is a light copper/orange and holds a diminishing thumb thick white head. Fore is citric hops, but more orange zest than grapefruit. A nice sweep malt base balances it. As far as intensity this is more akin to a pale ale like say a Sierra Nevada, but it is pretty decent and a nice suprise on a ski trip where I didn’t expect any enjoyable beer.

Photo of marshmarsh
2.93/5  rDev -13.1%
look: 3.25 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3

Purchased at the Capital Market in Charleston, WV. Just got back from a family reunion there, and every year I grab something local from WV at this market. This year it was beer!

Poured into a Tulip glass.

a - dark and cloudy copper with a two finger creamy white head. Lots of sediment visible.

s - citrus, pine, and you're gonna laugh at this one, but it's what it reminded me of: wonton soup.

t -mild hoppy start, pine - hop finish.

m - acid and light

o - i like the pine element, but the mouth feel just isn't as good as I like, and it's not very complex.

Photo of buschbeer
3.46/5  rDev +2.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12 ounce bottle
Served in a nonic pint glass

A - It is amber in color with an inch of beige head on top.

S - It has a slight citrus and caramel scent. I also get some bitter metallic aromas.

T - The taste starts out with some sweet caramel malt. Then some slight bitterness comes in. It is just bitter. Then the finish is pretty clean.

M - Moderate

O - I have had more hopped up pale ales. That doesn't make this necessarily a bad beer. The fact that it starts sweet then comes some plain bitterness makes it a not very good beer. It is not horrible to drink, but there are millions and millions that are better. The IPA style is so saturated that mediocre ones are way down the list.

Photo of psuKinger
2.89/5  rDev -14.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Draft poured into a mason jar, had fresh at the brewery. The chalkboard says this IPA clocks in at only 5.2%... if true; that's quite low for style.

A: pours a nice orange-copper color with plenty of frothy white head on top that stayed around for a while. 3.5

S: mild smell of malt sweetness. No hops present in the nose. 2.0.

T: hop bitterness can be found on the back end to balance this brew out, but little-to-nothing in terms of floral/citrus hop flavors... Malt sweetness and hop bitterness do strike a nice balance here though. 3.0

M: thin and light, with a nice bitter-sweet finish. 3.0

D/O: very quaffable. The taste agrees with the ABV, very "drinkable".  Considering the circumstances/craft beer scene here in West Virginia, this is a fine brew that drinks well. But when back home in the Burgh, this would fall well short of other options. It's a "sessionable" IPA, but as the ABV suggests, it doesn't have as much flavor as it's "bigger brothers" in the style. It finishes well, with a good bitter ending, which for me pushes it from a 3.0 to a 3.5.

Photo of mirish72
3.5/5  rDev +3.9%

Had a chance to try this on a recent visit to West Virginia. It was a welcome respite from what was generally available down there. Not as hop forward as I like in an IPA, but given what else was available down there I really liked it. Don't see myself seeking it out but would drink again if I ever find myself down there again.

Photo of founddrama
3.06/5  rDev -9.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

More carbonation than I'd expected. Some mild lemon notes; hoppy but not all that bitter. Light bodied. More pale ale than IPA.

Photo of woodychandler
3.36/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Once again, the mighty tone77 has come through with a new and unusual bottle to keep me honest while The CANQuest (TM) is on a temporary hiatus following my having splashed Oskar Blues' Chaka into my other computer's keyboard. My technician recommends against such action, BTW.

From the bottle: "Mountain State Brewing Co.'s Seneca IPA is an ode to the Native American Seneca tribes that once traversed the rolling hills of West Virginia, calling its lands and bountiful hunting grounds - home. This highly hopped, moderate bodied beer is toned perfectly to provide the hop explosion that IPA fans seek, without the lingering bitterness."; "Seneca IPA is bittered with Galena hops, flavored with Amarillo and dry-hopped with Cascade."

My pour, while aggro, was not uncontrolled, and so I wound up with just better than a finger of rocky, tawny head that gently fell like a souffle, leaving great lacing in its wake. Color was also great, a deep, coppery-amber (SRM = > 13, < 17) with NE-plus quality clarity. I could see into the future and beer was there! Nose had a light pine scent, enough to be perceived, but not enough to scorch my nostril hairs. Mouthfeel was medium and the taste, while bitter with pine hops, seemed to lack the intensity associated with the style. It might be better served as an EIPA or even an APA. This simply lacked the Ooomph! usually inherent in the modern iteration. I was down with what they were trying to accomplish, but as a hardcore hophead, this was like methadone to a heroin junkie - barely satisfying and enough to make me want to score a real hit. Dig? Finish had kind of a minty flavor, spearmint, perhaps. I just felt kind of underwhelmed by the whole deal.

Photo of weller1js
3.45/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

appearance: pours a hazy copper-amber, lightly carbonation but little foam and only slight film of bubbly lacing.

smell: hops are light yet crisp, only a faint dryness is notable.

taste: begins mellow, with a dry hoppiness that is sharp but brief, with its taste declining toward the finish, leaving only a slight bitter lingering.

drinkability: unique in its intent to have more a light finish as opposed to typical IPA's, seems to pack more of a punch in the middle, decently-hopped all the same.

Photo of Gavage
4.07/5  rDev +20.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Appearance: hazy dark orange in color with a 2" head. Some lace stuck to the glass.

Smell: floral hops and some orange citrus was pleasant and easy to detect.

Taste: caramel, orange, light grapefruit tartness, soft ripe fruit sweetness, and a floral bitterness created a well balanced beer.

Mouthfeel: medium bodied. Lightly crisp from start to finish. Aftertaste is long as the flavors last in your mouth.

Drinkability: this was extremely quaffable and enjoyable beer.

Photo of John_M
3.5/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

On tap at my hotel (Euro suites).

The beer pours a fairly dark amber color with fairly good head retention and light lacing. The nose is unusual for an IPA, as along with dry citrus, I get some dry malt and tea. The flavor profile replicates the nose, including the tea flavor. The beer is fairly hoppy/bitter, with some noticeable malt, but the beer is not at all sweet. Mouthfeel is medium bodied, with a fairly long, fairly bitter, slightly skunky finish. Alcohol seems pretty well integrated into the flavor profile, but then again, it's only 5.2% abv.

An interesting beer, but not one I can really see myself drinking a whole lot of. The hotel also has smithwicks on tap as well, which is probably what I'd order if I order anything else at my hotel.

Photo of ZimZamZoom
3.57/5  rDev +5.9%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A light chill-hazed amber colored IPA with not a trace of head on it. Pint glass filled to the rim by the bartender/server.

Aroma of some citrus hops and caramel. Not much depth here. Nice hoppy flavor, without much malt balance. It's not a thin hop-water type beer, it does have some body. Sessionable as all the other from this brewer have been. It tastes good but is nondescript at the same time.

Photo of Stinkypuss
3.53/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a deep copper, decent head forms and leaves lots of lace. Aroma of floral hops, herbal and a bit earthy in the flavor. Bitterness is rather tame, malt body is biscuity and lightly sweet in a caramel fashion. Overall, a decent drinking IPA and one I was glad to try. I believe this is the first beer I ever had from West Virginia.

Photo of bluehende
3.15/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Had from a Keg at a Mountain biking event in Davis, This beer seemed more of an amber than anything else. Some hops, but not a lot. Not a bad beer, but certainly nothing special. I would have assumed it would have been fresh as it was a donation from a local brewery.

Photo of rabsten
4.45/5  rDev +32%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

West Virginia doesn't have a surfeit of breweries and product to chose from, but calling this on of the best beers made in the Mountain State isn't faint praise. This is a good, good beer.

On tap at Sam's Uptown Cafe in Charleston, WV. Clear amber body, tan head with light, fluffy foam that has very good lacing qualities. Pretty much looks just like an IPA should.

Mellow hops, leaning towards citrus in nose, light vanilla and malt notes. Some floral presence as it warms up.

Solid, citrusy hops up front of palate with just enough malt to support the enterprise. Well balanced. Crisp mouthfeel that opens up as it goes down. Very, very drinkable.

Now that West Virginia Brewing Company isn't distributing to Southern WV, we can expect to see more Mountain State products taking their place. All in all, that's shaping up to be a good thing.

Photo of JamesS
4.48/5  rDev +32.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Pours a great dark copper color with great head and excellent lacing. It has a wonderful hoppy/floral scent, with nice citrus tones. Same for the taste, a very nice pale ale with a great hoppiness and an excellent aftertaste, with wonderful American hops. It goes down very smoothly, as well. Great beer!

Photo of Applesauce1
4/5  rDev +18.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I got this on-tap at The Junction in the Snowshoe Village.

Appearance: gold-copper color with a 1/2" white head off the tap; looks like a good ale
Smell: hops very prevalent
Taste: hoppy and flavorful; not a very balanced beer, but if you like some hops, this is a beer to try
Mouthfeel: medium bodied
Drinability: this would be a good session beer

This is my first time trying any beers from Mountain State Brewing. I had this and the Amber Ale. This one was a little better, but overall, I'm pretty impressed with the brewery.

Photo of dmamiano
3.91/5  rDev +16%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

poued this from the tao at the brew pub. surprisingly dark, may be a bit tto dark for thr style? No head at all to show, but that also means more beer from the pour!
Hoppiness in the nose, with a malt backround. Caramel malts, fairly thick in hoppiness.
Taste was very nice, fairly well balances. Hops dominated, as expected, but there was some malt in there as well. Not just hop water. Had a little "ashiness in the finish
Pretty solid brew.

Photo of beermanbrian
3.62/5  rDev +7.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Growler thanks to family and friends. I'm actually not 100% sure how this made it to my fridge but it was a pleasant surprise after a long week.

Brown/golden color with a lumpy white head. Some soap bubble lace.

Smell is floral hops mostly. Taste has a little floral hop kick up front but then is overwhelmed by the biscuity malt. This really trended more toward a brown ale as far as I'm concerned, even having some earthy nutty tones.

I didn't knock this quite as much as I would have if I knew for sure the growler was fresh and had been handled properly. Overall a nice beer I would like to try fresh at the brewery.

Photo of HurricaneMo
4.17/5  rDev +23.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

After having a pint at the pub, I liked this brew so much I decided to get a growler to bring home with me.

This beer poured darker than I expected - brown and not very translucent. It poured with a finger of head and showed decent lacing. The nose was hoppy and so was the taste. Not a whole lot of citrus and well-blended. Remarkably smooth finish. The hops kicked you up front, and then mellowed out to let you enjoy the taste. Medium carbonation and not too heavy on the mouthfeel. Quite enjoyable.

Photo of HamdenHector
3.37/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

A: slight haze; medium amber in color; less that a 1 finger ivory head that receded to a thin collar; very nice lacing;

S: moderate earthy hops; a little pine;

T: earthy all the way; moderate bitterness on the finish that doesn't really kick in until after the swallow;

M: light to medium bodied; moderate carbonation;

O: not sure what to make of this , but I wouldn't buy it again;

Photo of THECPJ
3.38/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Reviewed on 4/15/11 at the Taphouse in Charles Town, West Virginia,

appearance: copper orange with a 1 finger head

smell: hops, caramel malts,

taste: caramel, som hops, malts

mouthfeel: mild carbonation, medium body,

overall: not an outstanding IPA but atleast West Virginia offered one so I could try. They need to cut back on the sweet malts and mellow that out a bit. Just to sweet for an IPA for me. More Hops please.

Cheers,
The CPJ

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Seneca Indian Pale Ale from Mountain State Brewing Co.
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