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Cuvee De Castleton - Captain Lawrence Brewing Co.

Cuvee De CastletonCuvee De Castleton

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BA SCORE
97
world-class

402 Ratings
THE BROS
100
world-class

(view ratings)
Ratings: 402
Reviews: 214
rAvg: 4.4
pDev: 8.64%


Brewed by:
Captain Lawrence Brewing Co. visit their website
New York, United States

Style | ABV
American Wild Ale |  9.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: Billolick on 05-12-2007)
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BeerAdvocate

Massachusetts

4.5/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Review from BeerAdvocate magazine Vol. II Issue X:

Five years ago, if you told someone that you were drinking a Belgian-style Golden Ale fermented with grapes and aged in oak barrels with a secondary fermentation with Brettanomyces they would think you were from Mars. Today it is the cutting edge and all the rage. That is where Captain Lawrence is too, batch #2.

Champagne-like frothing, and more or less dissipates the same way. The clarity has dropped bright to show off the pale yellow color. The aroma ranges from barnyard to overripe fruit, mild wood tannin to a sour twang. A big aroma to say the least. Pungent sip to sip, but the taste buds do dull a bit as they become accustomed to the sour twang and chaotic medicinal/barnyard flavor from the Brett. Maltiness dials in strong enough to plant a solid tone of barley flavor. Hops? They are more or less staying out of this chaos, though they do pop out with the mild breath of alcohol real quick. The sourness drops out and leaves the mild oak and residual dry malt flavor to keep it going. Bone-dry finish.

Sure, Brett is a "love it or hate it" trait, though if you do love it this beer is without a doubt for you, and worth seeking out ... good luck, as only a small amount of cases are released each year.

Serving type: bottle

09-20-2010 17:34:15 | More by BeerAdvocate
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gueuzer

Colorado

4.6/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Poured from 375 ml bottle

App- Straw colored with very minimal head. White lacing.

Sm- Muscat and oakiness. Reminds me of a Chardonnay. Citric tang wafting in.

Ta- Beautiful balance. The sweetness of the grapes and malts blends beautifully with the lactic tang. Finishes dry.

MF- Minimal carbonation. Very nice. Lactic mouthcoat, but the dryness laves you wanting to take another sip.

Dr- Absolutely wonderful. Competes with the Belgian sours. Wish there was a slight bit more complexity, but eh balance here is amazing.

Serving type: bottle

09-20-2010 01:09:48 | More by gueuzer
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BTPete

New York

4.03/5  rDev -8.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bottle of BATCH 3 consumed on 5/19 by myself :) to tulip.

A: Clear golden yellow with no head. Some bubbles in the glass.

S: Funky white wine and light fruit. Some mustiness below the fruit. Funkier than the flaming fury I had before it seems.

T: Smoother than I had remembered from my other tastes. Not overly funky or sour in my mouth. Pretty vinous overall but nothing really taking center stage for me.

M: Medium bodied, low carb.

D: Smooth and drinkable. Not overly sour and for myself would have preferred a little more carbonation but highly drinkable regardless.

Serving type: bottle

09-17-2010 13:35:58 | More by BTPete
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womencantsail

California

4.58/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Thanks to Richard for sharing this bottle from Batch 4. One of my favorite sours that I have never seemed to getting around to reviewing.

A: The pour is a cloudy straw color with a large white head that dies down to a thin white layer relatively quickly.

S: A wonderful bright acidity to the nose with notes of lemon, green apple, and the muscat grapes used in this beer. Quite a vinous quality to the beer which I really enjoy.

T: A moderate funky quality to the beer that is of the wet oak and must. The sourness is primarily lactic without any real acetic notes. The lemon and green apple character accentuates the white muscat grapes wonderfully, which provide a touch of sweetness.

M: The body is on the light end of medium with a lively carbonation and a pleasantly dry finish.

D: One of my all time favorite sour beers and one that I wish I could drink all the time. Just a great beer that I look forward to at every release.

Serving type: bottle

09-12-2010 22:24:11 | More by womencantsail
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JAXSON

Pennsylvania

4.3/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Light hazy gold, large head that makes a lot of noise and dies really quickly, leaving nary a wisp behind. Nose is first of brett, champagne yeast, and some vague sparkling light fruits. There's a burst of white grape, it's definitely that and it's really developed, one of the strongest fruit characters in any beer I've had. The oak is really nice and subtle, perfectly dry. Prickly mouthfeel. The finish is ridiculously long -- on an aside I went to the release and had a single sip out of a glass there, and I literally could still taste the flavor evolving 20 minutes into the car ride home. Really a pefect, wonderful sour character, not overly so, but really elegant and refined. Bright, clean, crisp, really awesome.

****Had a few bottles of this since the initial rating, and the score has receded a bit. The grapes come across a bit too much at times and that effervescent sparkling quality isn't really there anymore. batch 2 has been my favorite. GO BACK TO THE 750ML BOTTLES FOR THIS!

****Second edit, this time reviewed from a 750ml batch 1 bottle, consumed March 2011. Just going to highlight some of the differences here. Carbonation is particularly high on this. Nose is lots of oak, brett, and a bright tropical fruit note. Flavor is awesome -- reminds me of later batches in a way, especially batch two with that really funky wet sock brett, but this has tons of lime acidity and kind of a pineapple tropical fruit to it. All about the acids here. Works wonderfully. So bright and well integrated, definitely the best batch.

Serving type: bottle

09-07-2010 02:57:50 | More by JAXSON
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Wisconsinality

Wisconsin

3.5/5  rDev -20.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to alcstradamus for another amazing brew.

375mL poured into Chimay chalice.

A- Pours a pale straw yellow with a nice haze to it. Absolutely no head on the beer. With no head comes no lacing left behind.

S- A little bit of Belgian yeast and some wild yeast as well. Sour grapes, almost liken to a sparkling wine, which makes sense after reading the bottle.

T- More of a subdued flavor than the nose. The Belgian yeast is present and the grapes are barely even noticeable. A little bit of lemon zest round this one out.

M- Lighter bodied, dry on the finish and not very much carbonation. I was hoping this would be a little more crisp.

D- Decent body but not too complex. The flavors aren't very deep or pronounced and not really all that sour.

Serving type: bottle

09-01-2010 21:18:36 | More by Wisconsinality
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abecall98

California

4.45/5  rDev +1.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Got a couple of these bottles in a trade.

A - pours a bright pale yellow. Very nice head white and sticky. The beer looks inviting.

S - oh man, funk. Smells like rotted lemons, but in a good way. Lemony too.

T - funky. Brett comes through, tastes like lemon peel inside of a locker room. It's very tart from the middle of the taste. Dryness is at the end with more lemon peel.

M - it's perfectly carbonated. It's creamy and dry at the same time. Love it.

D - for a sour, it's not over powering or offputting. The abv is well hidden and the tanginess keeps you at bay with more desire.

O - I like this sour. Glad I have another bottle.

Serving type: bottle

08-28-2010 05:02:10 | More by abecall98
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jrallen34

Illinois

3.75/5  rDev -14.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

375ml bottle into my De Struise glass. Batch 4...A light honey gold pour, decent carbonation at first but falls quickly with very light lacing...The aroma is pretty nice, Brute lite; acidic but lightly bready, small oak notes, white wine (sauvigon blanc) characteristics (light grass)...The taste is a bit of let down, displays too many of the white wine qualities in taste and feel. The more you drink the more vinous it gets, more oak and light feeling wine pour through. Weird alcohol finish, but pretty flat.

Huge start, sorry finish, not worth trading much to get.

Serving type: bottle

08-28-2010 03:45:57 | More by jrallen34
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sholland119

Pennsylvania

4.43/5  rDev +0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Batch 4.

A-Pours a clear yellow gold with a little bit of fizzy white head that does not last.

S-Strong aromas of white chardonnay grapes, stone fruit and some funk.

T-Delicious. Lots of good chardonnay notes in the front, with a very strong underlying dose of oak. Some bitterness in the finish and some very mild sourness.

M-Light to medium bodied, very dry.

D-Very approachable, great fruit and moderate sourness make this a sessionable sort of beer...if I only had more than one to drink.

HV

Serving type: bottle

08-27-2010 14:31:44 | More by sholland119
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BeerFMAndy

Wisconsin

4.08/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12.7 oz bottle split and poured into a Duvel tulip. Batch #4.

Yet again, another great beer provided by alcstradamus. Thank you sir!

A - Lightly hazy golden yellow color with absolutely no head. No ring or anything. Fair looking for a wild ale I suppose.

S - White grapes are almost elevating this beer to a white wine level of aroma. Light notes of a light type of wood comes through. Soft and delicate with a mild wild aroma. Smooth horse blanket.

T - Yep, a lot of white grape flavor and soft wood from barrel-aging come through. This is very white-wine like until the delicate wild flavor kicks in. Decent level of barnyard that blends nicely with the wine-like flavor profile.

M - Soft and light sourness with a tart finish and medium-bodied. Smooth texture with a good carbonation finish.

D - Good beer with good flavor and profile. I like the wine components to this wild beer. Nice drinkabiliy as well.

Serving type: bottle

08-21-2010 17:42:06 | More by BeerFMAndy
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beerwolf77

Wisconsin

3.78/5  rDev -14.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Another epic beer cracked by Adam. You are a fucking pimp.

A: cloudy golden yellow no head no lace

S: sharp lactic sour, lots of tart fruits like green apples and lemons moderate sweetness for some balance

T: sourness is mild, light sweetness seems to mellow this one out, nothing really stands out sort of one dimensional

M: Light dry body modest carbonation

D: good not great, glad I got the chance to try it, now I know not to hunt for it

Serving type: bottle

08-19-2010 22:26:24 | More by beerwolf77
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kbutler1

Minnesota

4.18/5  rDev -5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle. Batch 3. Pours a beautiful clear golden yellow color with little effervescence and surpisingly very little head into my small tulip glass. The aroma I get from this is sweet grapes, funk, and sourness. The initial taste is very good. The light carbonation dances in your mouth and is tart and sweet at the same time. Notes of apricot come to mind. The ending is very reminiscent of a white wine. Rethink my definition of beer? Yes, indeed. I recall first getting into craft beer and experiencing sours and they were no where near what I thought beers could be. This is a great style and a great beer. CL does a great job with this one! Light mouthfeel.

Serving type: bottle

08-19-2010 14:37:21 | More by kbutler1
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STEG

New York

4.35/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Batch 4, Fresh-ish.

Pours a cloudy straw yellow mixed with mandarin orange color into a Duvel Tulip. One finger eggshell white head fades into a collar of thin bubbles quite quickly.

Smell has perfume, sour apple, white grape and white peach mostly with some pear and lime as well with an undeterminable funky smell.

Taste is more of the same, sour grapes sour apples are dominant with a white wine like character as it fades. The sourness stays for a while.

Mouthfeel is light with a relatively dry finish.

Drinkable but not too drinkable.

Serving type: bottle

08-10-2010 23:12:28 | More by STEG
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drabmuh

Maryland

4.03/5  rDev -8.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Partial vertical made possible by three separate people. I am reviewing batch 2, 3, and 4.

Beers were poured into wine glasses side by side. None of them had a head or lacing. All were light yellow in color.

Batch 2 - very cloudy and hazy. I'm not convinced that it was yeast from being disturbed from the bottom of the bottle. The aroma was quite bretty, Brett b I think mostly, quite funky with a hint of acetic tinge. Beer is oddly thin with a good forward lactic acid, no sweetness, mild tartness.

Batch 3 - very clear and highly carbonated. It looked like champagne in the glass. Very bright. This beer's aroma was quite sweeter with cherries and oak. Beer was still quite sour, less brett and funky, dominant lactic with a trail of acetic.

Batch 4 - The newest batch just released a few weeks ago. This beer is cloudy again, moderately carbonated. Aroma is strongly sweet, much much sweeter than the other two. Mostly lactic, not much acetic in this one. The aroma is the strongest out of the three, nice. This beer has quite the brett bite to it, good funk, some oakiness I didn't detect in the others.

Serving type: bottle

08-05-2010 22:19:22 | More by drabmuh
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AleWatcher

Illinois

4.25/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 5

Had this at Dvelcich's tasting on 07.31.10 - reviewed from notes. This was shared by our gracious host, thanks Dan.

This beer's first sip is tart as hell. Wow.
Pours a hazy yellowy gold, very little head or lace. Smells like vinous white grapes-- like a chardonnay or a pinot. Lots of big flavor! Smell has a hint or tropical fruits and white grapes-- like green sour grapes. Taste is tart. Tart is still the word.

A light, slightly syrupy body due to minimal carbonation. The beer still drinks nice and easy. It is really quite good!

Serving type: bottle

08-04-2010 04:22:34 | More by AleWatcher
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SpeedwayJim

New York

4.28/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Batch 4. Poured from a 375ml. bottle into a tulip. Shared by schen9303.

A: Pours a 2 finger foamy white head that collapses quickly. Beer is a cloudy lemon with a slight red tint... a golden raisin if you will. No lacing.

S: Burn rubber, plastic, white grape, sweet ethanol, lemon, citrus, and awkward as it is, dry SMELLING. Fragrant though, and very enticing.

T: Rubber, sweet ethanol, white grape, lemon and grapefruit zest. Yeasty bitterness and tart in the middle. Bit of coriander towards the finish, which is very dry and slightly powdery. Sticky aftertaste.

M: Light to medium bodied, dry, makes my mouth viscous from the saliva as it struggles to rehydrate. Finish is dry, aftertaste is messy and puckering.

D: One of the more unique sours on the market, CdC is as advertised, really more champagne-y than beer-y. Its damn tasty though and I'm dying to open some older batches to see the difference. A bit young at this point, but this'll no doubt develop into a masterpiece!

Serving type: bottle

08-02-2010 00:22:05 | More by SpeedwayJim
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cavedave

New York

4.47/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Batch 4

This baby pours a straw colored and cloudy thick looking volume, topped briefly by a white head, then by bare skin.

The smell starts out tart, but not in a sharp way, but as the helpful host for a party of fine aroma's. Green apple, candy, chardonnay, farmyard, hold hands with some light appearances of even funkier aspects of brett. Fruit in the bouquet is quite balanced with the other smells.

This beer has a wondrous mix of strong flavors presented in such balance as none destroy the palate, while providing vibrantly alive and blended flavor. More of the barrel comes into the sip, the mild oakiness and tannin really give complexity to the tart aspects. These flavors do not overpower, as green apple, vinous, funk, and some really subtle spicy/earthy flavors round out the sip, especially as it warms. It is alive with flavor, and leaves you craving another sip. I imagine time will give this more incredible funkitude.

Mouthfeel is perfect, not only for style, but as vehicle for the flavors. Low carb., light and bright on palate, with a magnificent finish that never lets the potent tartness of this overwhelm. Just excellent.

Drinkability? This is so insanely drinkable I doubt I will be able to keep any of these long enough to enjoy at maturity.

Impression: In America 2010 the beers our domestic brewers lovingly create are of world class skill and artistry. CDC represents this.

Serving type: bottle

08-01-2010 17:41:02 | More by cavedave
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pmlondrigan

New York

4.4/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I could tell as soon as I poured this one that it was going to be an immediate favorite. Very quickly fading head, yet remains effervescent looking. Very clear, very hay yellow like apple juice. Smells crazy good. Oak, white grapes and lemon faint horse blanket; I can imagine a small amount of spice coming through, coriander I believe. The flavor is more tart than sour. Lemony and grassy with some horse blanket flavor coming through, but just a little. There is a real chardonnay quality to this beer and a clear grape and sour green apple thing going on. Mouth feel is perfect for the style, a little buttery and a little prickly reminds me of a geuze. It is so sad that this beer is so limited because I could drink tones of it.

Serving type: bottle

07-31-2010 01:37:03 | More by pmlondrigan
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xpimptastikx

Texas

4.15/5  rDev -5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Finally landed a bottle. Batch 4

A - Pours a hazy yellow, almost lemonade color. Fluffy white head disappears to nothing.

S - grapes, barn-yardy brett, citric acid, and oak.

T - Complex and simple, everything blends well. Start with the tart, rolls into oak, and finishes with just the right funk.

M/D - the carbonation is a little too lively for my taste. Once it has sat or been swirled a decent amount it's much easier on the palate. The sour level is at a medium, and I had no idea this beer was close to 8% before looking.

I think a year would do wonders for this beer. I'm pretty sure I'll be adjusting my score at that time.

Serving type: bottle

07-31-2010 00:17:25 | More by xpimptastikx
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JoeMayo

Massachusetts

4.53/5  rDev +3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Batch #4

Definately a little different than previous batches, but still delicious

A- Pours a golden straw color with a quickly fading fluffy white head.

S- Tart, complex, and herbal, much like a gueze. Herbal, hay-like funk with grassy notes and hints of white pepper.

T- Suprisingly different from the aroma. The grapes actually come through in the flavor. Crisp vinous white grapes are in the foreground, while horseblanket, hay, tart apple, funk, white pepper, and a mild grassy flavor are in the background.

M- Crisp and dry (again not unlike a good gueze)

D- Not overwhemingly sour, but a definate sipper.

Serving type: bottle

07-28-2010 16:17:18 | More by JoeMayo
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sisuspeed

New Hampshire

4.45/5  rDev +1.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Batch 4

Poured into a Rock Art tulip glass. A big, fizzy, head forms at first, but rapidly fades away without a trace. The body is a pale, golden-yellow. Looks nice, but I'd like to see a little bit of head or lacing.

Musty oak barrels with a bit of barnyard funk rise up from the glass. Somewhat yeasty in aroma with bready malts and lemon citrus. Juicy golden apples. Very nice.

Tart apples mix with a bit of yeast funk in the flavor. Zinfandel wine characteristics from the muscat grapes. Light oak presence and slightly acidic. Lots of tartness and very light alcohol.

Mouthfeel is smooth with crisp tartness. Light, spritzy carbonation, some acidity and faint warming alcohol. Almost slightly creamy at times, like blue cheese consistency.

This is a very drinkable wild ale. The bottle disappeared much too quickly and the ABV is essentially unnoticeable. The flavor is quite juicy, tart and well balanced. Probably the best golden American wild I have had alongside Temptation. This beer is really just a treat to drink. I highly recommend seeking out a bottle if you can. Great balance, flavor and tartness. Nice work Captain Lawrence.

Serving type: bottle

07-27-2010 16:41:21 | More by sisuspeed
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drewd0g

New York

4.72/5  rDev +7.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Batch 4 From the release. Poured into The Bruery Tulip.

A - A pleasant slightly hazy straw like color. Translucent with a head that dissipates very quickly.

S - Smells like grapes, similar to white wine. You can get a good feel of the tartness in nose. Always nice when you're looking forward to a sour and you get a lot of it right in the nose.

T - Served slightly chilled - A nice balance of sour and sweet. The grape flavor really comes through in this one alongside of some slight oakiness. Nice and tart with just the right amount of bite. Each sip leaves you wanting more.

M - Pretty thin body, appropriate for the style. Feels very clean on the tongue with a lively carbonation that has just the right amount of sharpness.

D - Highly drinkable, the tartness makes each sip better than the last. I can tell I'm going to go through mine pretty fast. Wish i had a couple cases of this one. Nicely done! another great brew from the crew @ CL

Serving type: bottle

07-26-2010 01:32:11 | More by drewd0g
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abuliarose

New Hampshire

4.47/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Poured into my Hill Farmstead tasting glass, revealing a slight champagne fizz over light golden, minimally hazy body. Smells like a meaty white wine with slight apricot and vanilla sweet notes, citrus and a little funk. Very nice smells, all together.

Tastes quite sour at first, but very clean and sweet in the finish. A little oak comes through the light malt and fruity grape flavor. Despite its delicacy, there is a distinct meatiness to the strength of the compilation that makes me want to pair it with something hearty like lamb satay. The spices add a nice bite to the sour kick. Carbonation is thorough and tingly, but not spritzy. Served just slightly chilled, it's very drinkable but something to sip and savor for all its complexity.

Very glad I have more of these!

Serving type: bottle

07-25-2010 22:36:39 | More by abuliarose
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mikey711

New Jersey

4.43/5  rDev +0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Looks like I will be the first person to review batch 4.

A: It pours a slightly cloudy but very vibrant golden hue with a nice level of white carbonation that quickly fades. Some rising carbonation no lacing.

S: Nice oak presence that also provides a little a solid earthy funkiness and. There is also a very prevalent fruit note, grape, that gives this a very wine like aroma. Some lemon notes and a bit of mustiness.

T: Very fruity with a citrus lemon and green apple notes upfront followed by sour grape notes. Very nice tartness that makes me pucker a little bit. Some hints of vanilla and some earthy wood notes.

M: There is a fair amount of acidity, but this one isnt had to sip at all. Its a bit like drinking lemonade. There is a slight bit of heat

D: Way to easy to drink and quite refreshing because of all the fruitiness. I really look forward to trying this one down the road to see how it ages

Serving type: bottle

07-25-2010 20:57:13 | More by mikey711
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Georgiabeer

Georgia

4.53/5  rDev +3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Batch 3. Pours a hazy golden with some sediment from a hard pour. Little head. Smells acetic followed by a slightly musty aroma of sour grapes and just a touch of sweetness. Slightly funky, n a good way. Tastes quite complex. Sour notes to start, then barnyard, metal, and leather, light herbal notes, fruitiness, and a light, sweet, muskiness from the grapes. Slightly mouthpuckering with sourness and some tannins, and some spice notes at the end. Delicious.

Serving type: bottle

06-29-2010 15:19:43 | More by Georgiabeer
Cuvee De Castleton from Captain Lawrence Brewing Co.
97 out of 100 based on 402 ratings.