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Schadenfreude - Surly Brewing Company

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Reviews: 44
Hads: 211
Avg: 3.9
pDev: 10.26%
Wants: 12
Gots: 7 | FT: 0
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Surly Brewing Company visit their website
Minnesota, United States

Style | ABV
Munich Dunkel Lager |  5.00% ABV

Availability: Spring

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Beer added by: MasterSki on 04-10-2010

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Photo of brentk56
3.92/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Appearance: Arrives with a tawny color flashing crimson highlights; not much head and what there is quickly disappears ; likely due to the pour

Smell: Toasted brown bread and nuts with a hint of coffee

Taste: Toasted brown bread and nuts, up front, with a developing lager twang taking over the middle; after the swallow, there is a hint of coffee that lingers in the finish

Mouthfeel: Light to medium body with gentle carbonation

Overall: Surly has done a good job with a style that is mostly ignored on these shores.

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Photo of MattyG85
4.42/5  rDev +13.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

On tap at the Happy Gnome in St. Paul, MN. Served in a standard shaker pint glass.

Appearance: Color is a very dark brown with some hints of amber and ruby red. Moderate amount of bubbles. About two fingers of off white head which slowly fade to a thin patchy layer. Leaves a good amount of lacing.

Smell: A very malt forward and roasty aroma. Sweet dark roasted malts with good hints of caramel, toffee, chocolate, and nuts. Good amount of brown sugar. Also some hints of oak chips and a touch of vanilla. Light hint of earthy hops.

Taste: Like the aroma, just a little stronger. Roasty dark malts with notes of caramel, toffee, chocolate, nuts, and some brown sugar. Fairly yeasty with a light hint of banana. Also some hints of oak. Some earthy hops show up towards the finish. A pretty good taste.

Mouthfeel: Medium bodied with a moderate level of carbonation. Very creamy, slick, and smooth. Sweet but not really syrupy.

Overall: A very good take on a Dunkel lager. Nice dark roasted flavors that blend well together.

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Photo of kenito799
4.25/5  rDev +9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Pint at Surly party celebrating the change of law, 6/18/11.

Inky black. Malty roasted aroma. Coffee notes, very smooth maltiness, the skill in brewing such a beer is the exceedingly perfect smoothly perfect drinkability. The ultimate session beer, expert brewing.

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Photo of woodychandler
3.98/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Transcribed from undated notes. Had on-tap at Binny's South Loop Tasting Room.

Passed over to me with a finger of deep-tan head with good retention. Color was a very pretty ruby red with NE-quality clarity. Nose was slightly sweet with a chocolaty aspect to it. Mouthfeel was medium with a chocolaty, smoky taste on the tongue. This from a lager!?! Wow, color me impressed. Finish had a chocolate flavor with a slight sourness, leaving it moderately dry. What a find!

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Photo of bsp77
3.71/5  rDev -4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Serving glass: Poured from tap into Pint glass.

Appearance: Dark ruby-brown with medium-sized head.

Smell: Caramel, bread and a light smokiness. Way too mild.

Taste: Somewhat sweet caramel backbone with some light roasted characteristics (chocolate, coffee). Just a hint of smoke, oak and noble hops.

Feel: Moderate carbonation, fairly light body. Little too sweet overall for my personal tastes.

Overall: Despite the mild aroma and slightly too sweet body, this is pretty damn good for a Dunkel. While not my favorite Surly by a long shot, I have to appreciate what they have accomplished here.

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Photo of Chriscrundwell12
3.75/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured on tap into a Surly imperial pint glass at Cafe Twenty Eight.

A- One finger off white foamy head, nice carbonation very dark brown appearance, nice lacing.
S- Nice and tasty, malts, and caramel, coffee, brown sugar, chocolate and hopes are present as well.
T- Slight hops and malts up front, very mild, easy drinking, you get a breadiness to it as well, well balanced, hints of coffee and caramel, very similar to bender.
M- Excellent carbonation, medium mouth feel, nice and crisp on the palate.
O- Easy drinking beer, well balanced and smooth, great sessional beer, nice coffee and malt notes, with some nice hops added in. Solid beer but would not rank among my top favorites from Surly.

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Photo of Mdog
3.88/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: Dark amber, good head.

Smell: Toasted bread, not too strong. I have trouble smelling almost all tap beers.

Taste: Bready, toast, some sweetness. A little toffee. Surly Mild's big brother?

Drinkability: Goes down easy but not too exciting.

Finally got to try the Schadenfreude at the Hanger Room. It's not as in-your-face as most Surly brews, but still is well-made and tasty for what it is. A nice compliment to Surly Hell.

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Photo of zeledonia
4.03/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

On-tap at the Happy Gnome.

Brought to me with little head, but decent stickiness and lacing. A deep translucent brown with ruby highlights. Much darker than I expected.

Smell is not the highlight - it's rather weak on the nose. But what's there is good. Mostly rich chocolate malts and some yeast aroma. Smells rich and full, without any bite. Very little hop presence.

Taste is rather like the smell, but fuller. Deep roasted malts, with a fair amount of cocoa and a notable lager yeast flavor. Not much fruit, and hops are there only in the gentle bitterness that comes on late. This one is mostly straight-up roasted malts, but despite that it still tastes balanced. Has a really nice richness and decent complexity. Finishes clean, smooth, and fairly quickly, with the aforementioned bitterness coming and going without fanfare.

Medium-bodied, with good carbonation. Feels full in the mouth, but not sticky. Very smooth. Fades gently and gracefully away.

A very solid beer. Dominated by the malts, as it should be, but with nice rich flavors and good balance.

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Photo of ucis
4.04/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

On tap at the White Horse in lovely Saint Cloud.

A- Looks good and black with little to no head. It was so dark that the bartender thought he had pulled the wrong tap arm and proceeded to pour a half glass of Furious which he graciously slid my way.

S. There is a faint whiff of Smoke and maybe a lovely hint of malt. This one is not really a sniffer.

T. Very molasses, smoke and malt. It has a bit of nutty, smoke almost rye flavor. Perhaps if Surly Smoke and Surly Fest had a baby it would taste a little like this. (mmm tasty babies)

M. Very firm but not overbearing. It has the consistency of Surly Smoke. It goes down good.

O. I would try this again any chance given. It would make a great session beer if it was ever bottled. I feel as though the ABV may be a bit higher though. (shhh it's our secret)

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Photo of mothman
3.97/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Served with little beige tan head. Full pour. Color is a dark caramel brown.

Aroma: Dark roast, caramel, and coffee. Pretty malty. Some chocolate and earthy hops. Solid.

Taste: Coffee and a nice roast up front followed by chocolate and caramel. Very malty like the nose. Earthy, grassy hops. Reminds me of bender.

Mouthfeel: Smooth, creamy, and lightly roasted. Medium bodied with a medium amount of carbonation. Ends pretty clean.

Overall, a very flavorful dunkel. I like the coffee roast. Pretty drinkable as well. Good beer all around. I could drink a few pints of this.

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Photo of KarlHungus
4/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This beer arrives a dark brown almost black color. The head is half an inch in height, and recedes quickly into minimal lacing. The aroma is of toffee, bread, and a hint of cocoa. The taste is fuller than the aroma with a lot of toffee and bready malt, some cocoa powder, and a hint of wood. The mouthfeel is medium bodied with moderate carbonation, and a velvety texture. Overall, this is a good beer that I would drink again.

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Photo of yeahnatenelson
3.78/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

On tap at Dark Lord Day 2011.

Appearance -- Pours a molasses brown hue with a slim cap of beige head.

Smell -- Nicely toasted malt, assorted nuts, and earthy hops. Pretty nice.

Taste -- The dominant flavors are that of toasted malt, along with nuttiness and a traditionally German-tasting grassy/earthy hops combo. Malt sweetness is mild, bordering on dry, as Surly is wont to do. Very crisp. Lingering flavors of earthy hops and toasted nuts.

Mouthfeel -- Medium-light in body with medium carbonation. Crisp and easy-drinking.

Overall -- Not bad at all. Wouldn't put it high on my list of favorite Surly beers, but it's always a treat to try one of their beers, especially a lager.

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Photo of FreshmanPour77
4.35/5  rDev +11.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Reviewed on 5-06-11
Reviewed cold from the tap at the brewery

A – Poured a finger of foam, dark bodied brew with a tan head. Good amount of carbonation present

S - Dark roasted malts with hints of caramel and chocolate and coffee little hop aroma present

T /M – Medium bodied and smooth with no hop bitterness. Sweetness lasted throughout the brew. Caramel and chocolate blended well with some coffee and malt

D - Very drinkable brew. Medium bodied, easy going down. A for sure brew to session but too bad that it is only found on tap! Another great brew from Surly and I recommend having it when you can

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Photo of ChopperSmith
3.85/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On tap in a standard pint glass at the Triple Rock Social Club in Minneapolis.

Appearance: Slightly hazy dark brown with a ruby red tint when held to the sunlight. Single finger tan foamy head that left nice lacing.

Smell: Toasty and bready malts with just a hint of hops.

Taste: Dark roasted malts, flavors of coffee, bread and bittersweet chocolate. Slightly sweet and dry. This is a dream for a roasted malt lover.

Mouthfeel: Lighter bodied than expected, and crisp carbonation. A good consistency for a hearty malty flavored beer like this.

Drinkability: An easy one to session with and a lot of flavor, but very easy to drink and smooth. Another winner from Surly.

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Photo of nrbw23
3.98/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A- Pours a dark brown color with a nice light tan colored head. Head turns into a thin layer of bubbles and some spotty lacing.

S- Smell is nice, but a bit on the weak side. Bready, caramel malts, a touch of chocolate and a bit of Earthy hops.

T- Roasted malts, chocolate, a bit more coffee and smoke. Very malty with just a tad bit of bitterness.

M- Medium in body and nice carbonation.

O- Went in on this one not having a clue what to expect. I really enjoyed drinking this pint.

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Photo of kbutler1
4.1/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Draft at Stub & Herbs. Poured into a pint glass a dark brown color with a ever so slight head. What head there is collars around the rim of the glass a light tan color. I would have liked more head but it seems the bartender wanted to fill it to the brim! The aroma is actually quite mild with notes of light roast coffee. Medium mouthfeel. I would guess this uses maris otter barley given the appearance and aroma. Medium mouthfeel. Starts off with a very slight dark fruit flavor, a touch nuttiness, and the aforementioned light roast notes. Sweetness sticks around the whole time. Mild bitterness. Some caramel flavors as well as it warms up a touch. VERY easy drinking. Like.

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Photo of adamette
4.3/5  rDev +10.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Review from notes taken while I enjoyed this beer on tap at The Bavarian Lodge in Lisle, IL with (among others) my two brothers-in-law Steven and Mat August 21st, 2010. Mat lives within minutes of this place and we enjoy visiting there when I am in town. Poured into standard pint glass.

A Light brown head over a dark, mahogany body that lets light through but it certainly a "dark" beer. A good, classic look for the style. 4.0

S Woody notes, nutty, medium roast malt. Really good and inspiring in terms of the style, an underappreciated one by most people. 4.0

T Nutty, malt goodness, oak wood taste. Really satisfyingly good. 4.5

M Moderate feel with some smoothness. 4.0

D It is very easy to drink this beer and I would certainly have had more than one if I was not in to sampling whatever I could get my hands on that night at the Bavarian Lodge. 4.5

Notes: My first Surly looks like one that is limited, on tap only. Leave it to the superb Bavarian Lodge in Lisle, IL to offer it, a great, great place to drink beer.

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Photo of tigg924
3.83/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Had on tap at Binny's Tap Room--Chicago

Appearance: dark brown/red in color with 1/4 inch head, clear

Smell: chocolate, some nut, and roasted malt

Taste: chocolate, some nut, and roasted malt--a touch of oak is present as well.

Mouthfeel: light body, moderate carbonation, sweet with a bitter backbone

Drinkability: I could have several of these--and would have if I did not get in right before the keg kicked. I love the slight oaking. This beer is super smooth.

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Photo of fear025
3.75/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

On tap at the Bavarian Lodge in Lisle, IL.

Aroma:The smell is rather subtle, but I get dark malts, and noble hops.

Appearance:This beer is dark brown with very little head.

Taste:Dark malts dominate this beer. The foretaste has a lot of chocolate, and also some woody notes. On the mid to aftertaste I get some subtle dark fruit flavors. The aftertaste lingers with a mild lager yeast flavor.

Mouthfeel:Medium body that's really smooth. Good carbonation.

Drinkability:I really enjoyed this beer, it's very drinkable, and goes great with food. I'm not sure it's exactly spot-on in terms of style though. I think it could have benefited from more complexity.

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Photo of rhoadsrage
3.9/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

(Served in an American pint glass)
A- This beer has a warm dense brown body with a thick light beige head that last for a good bit and a gentle carbonation.
S- The aroma of brown malt with a darker chocolate malt note in the background is very clean.
T- The soft dark toasted malt flavor has some chocolate malt flavors to it and is dry and lagered. The finish has a slight tartness that might be a subtle smoke hint and no real hops are present. M- This beer has a medium mouthfeel that is pretty dry with no alcohol heat.
D- This beer has some nice flavors and a good richness. It is drinkable but it would be nice to have a little more depth or support to the dark toasted malt bill.

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Photo of homebrew311
4.37/5  rDev +12.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

Had this a few weeks ago at Durty Nellies, review is from tasting notes.

A: appears a dark translucent brown, very little head and no retention or lacing

S: nice roasty profile up front with toasted grains and lots of bready notes

T: Awesome balance between nutty and roasty flavors wit some hints of coffee and chocolate in there

MF: light body, medium carbonation, crisp

D: the drinkability couldn't be much better. Lots of flavor with a nice light body and a nearly sessionable ABV. Surly seems to do the high flavor low alcohol thing very well.

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Photo of wisrarebeer
3.79/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On tap at Stub and Herb's. Amazing that people will rate the heck out of super hopped up beers and RISs but usually bypass the other ones. Why?

A: deep, deep, copper color - great head
S: mild nose
T: good, malty, decently rich with nice hop finish but not intense - well-made dunkel, a bit weak in body but just an easy drinking beer
M & D: very good

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Photo of kruse
1.41/5  rDev -63.8%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 1 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 1

A - tap poured a nice brown color; head was almost non-existent, just a few off-white bubbles.

S - relatively little aroma, particularly for a Surly beer. Slight hoppiness, but more malty.

T - malt, with some hop bitterness, but overshadowed by a very unpleasant metallic taste.

M - very thin

D - All but undrinkable. I usually like Surly products, but this one really misses the mark.

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Photo of AgentZero
3.88/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Dark brown color, can't really see through it, small off-white head. Little bit of yellow on the edges, looks fairly solid.

S - Smell is nice, but a little too muted. Caramel malts with a bit of cocoa and some coffee as well. Smells sweet.

T - Not what I was expecting. Nice and roasty with some chocolate, then I get a surpring amount of coffee and bitter malts on this. Very nice, although it almost seems like a coffee dunkle.

M - Quite carbonated on a medium bodied beer leads this one to be somewhat of a refreshing brew.

D - Pretty easy to get down, and could do it again. Don't think I could make it a session beer, but it was an enjoyable drink that I wouldn't mind having again.

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Photo of Florida9
4.1/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

On tap at Cafe 28 (tasting note from mid-May)

A: Reddish mahogany brown in color. Served with a good sized tan head. Good retention.

S: Roasted malts. Bready. Some earthy tones and a bit of smoke.

T: Again roasted malts with a certain nuttiness and a noticeable bit of char, smoke and peat. Not overdone, but with this beer being on the lighter side, even the lighter notes of smoke and peat come through clearly. Very mild bitterness on the end.

M: On the lighter side of medium with active carbonation.

D: Overall another good beer from the folks at Surly. Lighter bodied with a full flavor makes this one both sessionable and great with food. And while this is not my preferred style of beer, I enjoyed this one thoroughly. Oddly, I felt this one had more smoke character than Surly's Smoke.

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Schadenfreude from Surly Brewing Company
87 out of 100 based on 44 ratings.