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Schadenfreude - Surly Brewing Company

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Reviews: 44
Hads: 211
Avg: 3.9
pDev: 10.26%
Wants: 12
Gots: 7 | FT: 0
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Surly Brewing Company visit their website
Minnesota, United States

Style | ABV
Munich Dunkel Lager |  5.00% ABV

Availability: Spring

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Beer added by: MasterSki on 04-10-2010

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Photo of kbutler1
4.1/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Draft at Stub & Herbs. Poured into a pint glass a dark brown color with a ever so slight head. What head there is collars around the rim of the glass a light tan color. I would have liked more head but it seems the bartender wanted to fill it to the brim! The aroma is actually quite mild with notes of light roast coffee. Medium mouthfeel. I would guess this uses maris otter barley given the appearance and aroma. Medium mouthfeel. Starts off with a very slight dark fruit flavor, a touch nuttiness, and the aforementioned light roast notes. Sweetness sticks around the whole time. Mild bitterness. Some caramel flavors as well as it warms up a touch. VERY easy drinking. Like.

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Photo of adamette
4.3/5  rDev +10.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Review from notes taken while I enjoyed this beer on tap at The Bavarian Lodge in Lisle, IL with (among others) my two brothers-in-law Steven and Mat August 21st, 2010. Mat lives within minutes of this place and we enjoy visiting there when I am in town. Poured into standard pint glass.

A Light brown head over a dark, mahogany body that lets light through but it certainly a "dark" beer. A good, classic look for the style. 4.0

S Woody notes, nutty, medium roast malt. Really good and inspiring in terms of the style, an underappreciated one by most people. 4.0

T Nutty, malt goodness, oak wood taste. Really satisfyingly good. 4.5

M Moderate feel with some smoothness. 4.0

D It is very easy to drink this beer and I would certainly have had more than one if I was not in to sampling whatever I could get my hands on that night at the Bavarian Lodge. 4.5

Notes: My first Surly looks like one that is limited, on tap only. Leave it to the superb Bavarian Lodge in Lisle, IL to offer it, a great, great place to drink beer.

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Photo of tigg924
3.83/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Had on tap at Binny's Tap Room--Chicago

Appearance: dark brown/red in color with 1/4 inch head, clear

Smell: chocolate, some nut, and roasted malt

Taste: chocolate, some nut, and roasted malt--a touch of oak is present as well.

Mouthfeel: light body, moderate carbonation, sweet with a bitter backbone

Drinkability: I could have several of these--and would have if I did not get in right before the keg kicked. I love the slight oaking. This beer is super smooth.

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Photo of fear025
3.75/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

On tap at the Bavarian Lodge in Lisle, IL.

Aroma:The smell is rather subtle, but I get dark malts, and noble hops.

Appearance:This beer is dark brown with very little head.

Taste:Dark malts dominate this beer. The foretaste has a lot of chocolate, and also some woody notes. On the mid to aftertaste I get some subtle dark fruit flavors. The aftertaste lingers with a mild lager yeast flavor.

Mouthfeel:Medium body that's really smooth. Good carbonation.

Drinkability:I really enjoyed this beer, it's very drinkable, and goes great with food. I'm not sure it's exactly spot-on in terms of style though. I think it could have benefited from more complexity.

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Photo of rhoadsrage
3.9/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

(Served in an American pint glass)
A- This beer has a warm dense brown body with a thick light beige head that last for a good bit and a gentle carbonation.
S- The aroma of brown malt with a darker chocolate malt note in the background is very clean.
T- The soft dark toasted malt flavor has some chocolate malt flavors to it and is dry and lagered. The finish has a slight tartness that might be a subtle smoke hint and no real hops are present. M- This beer has a medium mouthfeel that is pretty dry with no alcohol heat.
D- This beer has some nice flavors and a good richness. It is drinkable but it would be nice to have a little more depth or support to the dark toasted malt bill.

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Photo of homebrew311
4.37/5  rDev +12.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

Had this a few weeks ago at Durty Nellies, review is from tasting notes.

A: appears a dark translucent brown, very little head and no retention or lacing

S: nice roasty profile up front with toasted grains and lots of bready notes

T: Awesome balance between nutty and roasty flavors wit some hints of coffee and chocolate in there

MF: light body, medium carbonation, crisp

D: the drinkability couldn't be much better. Lots of flavor with a nice light body and a nearly sessionable ABV. Surly seems to do the high flavor low alcohol thing very well.

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Photo of wisrarebeer
3.79/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On tap at Stub and Herb's. Amazing that people will rate the heck out of super hopped up beers and RISs but usually bypass the other ones. Why?

A: deep, deep, copper color - great head
S: mild nose
T: good, malty, decently rich with nice hop finish but not intense - well-made dunkel, a bit weak in body but just an easy drinking beer
M & D: very good

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Photo of kruse
1.41/5  rDev -63.8%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 1 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 1

A - tap poured a nice brown color; head was almost non-existent, just a few off-white bubbles.

S - relatively little aroma, particularly for a Surly beer. Slight hoppiness, but more malty.

T - malt, with some hop bitterness, but overshadowed by a very unpleasant metallic taste.

M - very thin

D - All but undrinkable. I usually like Surly products, but this one really misses the mark.

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Photo of AgentZero
3.88/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Dark brown color, can't really see through it, small off-white head. Little bit of yellow on the edges, looks fairly solid.

S - Smell is nice, but a little too muted. Caramel malts with a bit of cocoa and some coffee as well. Smells sweet.

T - Not what I was expecting. Nice and roasty with some chocolate, then I get a surpring amount of coffee and bitter malts on this. Very nice, although it almost seems like a coffee dunkle.

M - Quite carbonated on a medium bodied beer leads this one to be somewhat of a refreshing brew.

D - Pretty easy to get down, and could do it again. Don't think I could make it a session beer, but it was an enjoyable drink that I wouldn't mind having again.

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Photo of Florida9
4.1/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

On tap at Cafe 28 (tasting note from mid-May)

A: Reddish mahogany brown in color. Served with a good sized tan head. Good retention.

S: Roasted malts. Bready. Some earthy tones and a bit of smoke.

T: Again roasted malts with a certain nuttiness and a noticeable bit of char, smoke and peat. Not overdone, but with this beer being on the lighter side, even the lighter notes of smoke and peat come through clearly. Very mild bitterness on the end.

M: On the lighter side of medium with active carbonation.

D: Overall another good beer from the folks at Surly. Lighter bodied with a full flavor makes this one both sessionable and great with food. And while this is not my preferred style of beer, I enjoyed this one thoroughly. Oddly, I felt this one had more smoke character than Surly's Smoke.

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Photo of optiontwo
4.03/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Had this a couple times but didn't realize it was an oak aged beer. Anyway, thought I'd review it.

A: Dark, cold press coffee brown with a hint of glowing ruby where the light hits it. Off white head starts at half inch and leaves a little lacing as it recedes.

S: Roasted malt and chocolate are pretty prominent with an earthy background. Also pick up some fruitiness that I would maybe attribute to the hops.

T: Starts with a nice roastiness combined with a light chocolate sweetness then quickly turns to a perfectly fruity, bitter, slightly dry finish. Definitely begs for more sips.

M: Feels great. Somewhat silky but still light enough to be refreshing. Great carb.

D: Could definitely drink this all night long, no doubt about it.

O: I hope this ends up as a canned offering because it's delicious and drinkable. I've maybe only had one other dunkel lager so I'm not quite versed in the style but whether or not this is very traditional, it's damn good.

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Photo of pmccallum86
4.35/5  rDev +11.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours a dark barely tranparesnt cocoa brown color.

Aromas is of huge roasted malts with some coffee/cocoa aromas as well.

Tastes very roasty, lots of roasted malt flavors going on here. The bar was about 85 degrees where I was and this beer still tasted great. A little lighter in flavor this could be a great session beer.

Mouthfeel was smooth and somewhat velvety, medium to low carbonation, great beer.

Very drinkable, would love to try this again.

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Photo of feloniousmonk
4.1/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Dusky brown color, with crimson highlights shining through at the edges, slim head.

Caramel and cocoa hit the nose first, sweetness dominates, then mild coffee notes come in.

Taste: mild mouthfeel, but flavor-packed. Caramel and toffee, tops again, but rounded out, and the sweetness is tempered by the work of the barrel. Everything is even-keeled, and extremely, what's the technical term? Tasty.

Minor hop bitterness, medium mouthfeel, body, tingly texture. One of the more to-style (aside from the oak-aging) Surlys so far, and one of my favorites among those. I tend to favor darker lagers more than lighter ones, and the maltier the better.

This one where one pint begs for another, an excellent session choice. I actually find myself not yearning for a hoppier brew, or one stronger in alcohol...although I'll probably have one of those, anyway...knowing me, as I do.

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Photo of younger35
3.68/5  rDev -5.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Had a glass of this delight at good ol' Stub & Herbs on a beautiful Saturday morning. I think Surly needs to come up with more of these one off tap only brews. Drank from a generic pint glass.

Appearance- Dark brownish with hints of copper and a nice one finger soft off-white head. A small spotty cap remains along with a thick collar and tiny spots of lacing strewn about.
Smell- Lightly yeasty and bready with just a super light touch of chocolate. Maybe a bit of coffee but overall not the most exciting nose, pretty much like every Dunkel ever made.
Taste- Somewhat lightly toasted and nutty with a nice coffee and cola aspect. A bit of bready yeast and toasted crust with no real hop influence at all. Very crisp and somewhat clean though with a smooth refreshing finish.
Mouthfeel- Fairly light body with a zippy bit of carbonation that tickles the tongue.
Drinkability- Very easy drinking, inoffensive beer. Not all that flavorful and for my $ I'd much rather have mild (same sort of profile, loosely). I just need bigger flavors and a Dunkel Lager just doesn't do it for me. Glad I got to try though!

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Photo of jrallen34
3.65/5  rDev -6.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

I has this on tap at Local option into a tulip. The beer is dark brown with lots of amber highlights, fairly clear. Not much head or retention to comment on. The aroma is light, bready with roasted malts. The taste is ok nothing special, a light smoke finish that is nice. Easy to drink but not much feel, kinda boring so probably wouldn't want more than one.

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Photo of mdwalsh
3.97/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Dark, opaque brown, no head or active carbonation. Hazy from what I can tell. Looks very old-worldy.

S: There's a mild roast, no hops, in general pretty mild. Nothing much to comment on, but nothing to complain about apart from that.

T: Again, there's a mild roast and no hops. It's sort of sweet. This is a pretty straight forward, nothing hidden no complexity, but good beer.

M: There's low carbonation, so it's not light by any means, but it's not terribly smooth either. But it's still nice.

D: Very drinkable, but I think I would rather have the Surly Mild.

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Photo of mcallister
4.25/5  rDev +9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Murky brick colored with a frothy off white head.

Thick bready aromas, dark breads with hints of pumpernickle. Light yeasty and earthy esters, light chocolate.

Very nice, refreshing and overly drinkable. Large amounts of moderately sweet, creamy, earthy malts, chocolate and yeasty flavors. Endless drinking possibilities.

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Photo of emerge077
3.91/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On tap at Four Moon Tavern...

Served in a nonic pint, there was about a finger of foam that laced the glass in chunky, drippy patterns. It looked black, but in the light it was a deep scarlet when backlit. The attractive color was nice, and the retention was good.

Aroma was slightly sweet, toasted malt and tobacco leaf that also came through in the taste. Aftertaste had some residual earthy hops that were only mildly bitter after a good quaff. The dark malts were on showcase, there was a hint of maple sweetness also. Feel was light, it was easily worth having a couple pints of. Overall it was clean and fairly subdued, though enjoyable.

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Photo of MasterSki
3.83/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Had this on-tap at Jake Melnick's. Served in a pint glass.

A - Poured with a finger of light tan foam that dissipates to a thin cap and ring. Hazy red-brown body with some light transparency at the fringes, and a nice fiery glow.

S - Smells a like a dunkel. Nuts, cocoa, cola, caramel dark fruits, maybe a touch of ginger? It's a little muted but otherwise quite nice.

T - Taste is a step up, with more intensity amplifying the same flavor collection and adding a bit of sarsaparilla to the cola notes. No obvious booze, but there's a touch of hop bitterness in the finish.

M - A bit gritty and overcarbonated. Light residual stickiness, medium body, and no perceptible heat.

D - I drank a pint during an inning of the Cubs-Braves game. Other than the somewhat harsh carbonation this was pretty easy to drink. A nice dunkel lager, similar to Denison's but with a less potent nose.

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Schadenfreude from Surly Brewing Company
87 out of 100 based on 44 ratings.