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Overrated West Coast IPA - Surly Brewing Company

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Ratings: 1,064
Reviews: 167
rAvg: 4.09
pDev: 7.82%
Wants: 110
Gots: 92 | FT: 7
Brewed by:
Surly Brewing Company visit their website
Minnesota, United States

Style | ABV
American IPA |  7.30% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
It's been said; "Its easier to brew an extremely hoppy beer than an extremely balanced beer." And you know us, we are always looking for the easy way out, so we jumped on the West Coast IPA Bandwagon and brewed this dry and hoppy ale. "Surly's a little bit of a one-trick pony, they just brew gimmick beers," and maybe we are OVERRATED, but at the end of the day it's just a beer. If yo like it, great, so do we. If you only liked us when we were small, then leave this one on the shelf. Let one of the fanyboys grab it.

(Beer added by: MasterSki on 02-05-2013)
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2.5/5  rDev -38.9%

yourefragile, May 01, 2013
Photo of mynie
4.3/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

This is an excellent-if-boilerplate example of what a west coast IPA should be.

Pours bright amber with a fuzzy white head.

In the aroma, does the malt balance the hops, but the hop profile is variegated enough so as to balance itself, reaching extremely acidic peaks of pine and grapefruit that are tamed by mango and grass before being subsumed into breadiness. It tastes, thankfully, very much as it smells: exceptionally well balanced.

mynie, Apr 30, 2013
Photo of Beerandboards
4.24/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

A - copper/amber color. Pours a pretty dense 1.5 inches or so of dense white foam.

S - smooth citrus, orange peel, some pine

T - lots of grapefruit and orange, little bit of more tropical notes as it warms. Then some piney/sappy bitterness towards the end.

M - good. Medium or a little lighter carbonation. Nice finish.

O - certainly not overrated. Tasty IPA.

Beerandboards, Apr 30, 2013
Photo of hopswap1
4.25/5  rDev +3.9%

hopswap1, Apr 30, 2013
Photo of alexgash
4.25/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

16 oz. can. Canned on 4/15/13.

Pours a bright golden orange. Clean and clear. Small finger of gauzy, tight, off-white head. Some lacing. Lots of citrus on the nose. Some pine, but mostly grapefruit, lemon zest, and some pineapple. Fruity malt backbone gets overshadowed by the fresh hop aromas. Nice!

Toasted malt up front. Sweetish, fruity malt fills in, along with plenty of juicy hops. Grapefruit, pineapple, and pine sap dominate. Moderately bitter (for an IPA), but the hop flavors are nice and fresh. More toasted, bready notes near the finish. Long, dry finish with some lingering fruit and cookie malt. Medium body with a creamy feel. Nicely done, yet again, by Surly!

alexgash, Apr 29, 2013
Photo of zachary80
4.01/5  rDev -2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Canned 4/10/13. Kept cold since it entered my possession. Overml01 somehow landed a few of these and some other tasty Surly beers for me.

Golden body with a slight orange huge. Large white head with medium-low retention but lots of lacing.

Big grapefruit and piney hoppiness up front, light sweetness from the malt.

Flavor is lacking compared to the promising aroma - a little muddled, and almost more malt heavy than hop despite having almost no body. Relatively high bitterness that lasts quite a while. Hopiness is a one-note of pine with some dankness that lacks nuance.

Very thin, but not detracted too much since that was part of the west coastness. Carbonation seems appropriate.

A good IPA - very good aroma, above average flavor that is slightly lacking in complexity, high bitterness, and thin mouthfeel. I'm sure those combine to make a perfect IPA for someone out there.

zachary80, Apr 29, 2013
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4.25/5  rDev +3.9%

Zaphog, Apr 29, 2013
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4/5  rDev -2.2%

thewimperoo, Apr 29, 2013
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4/5  rDev -2.2%

smutty33, Apr 29, 2013
Photo of hansgruber
4.25/5  rDev +3.9%

hansgruber, Apr 29, 2013
Photo of WeisGuy
4.25/5  rDev +3.9%

WeisGuy, Apr 29, 2013
Photo of fredmugs
4/5  rDev -2.2%

fredmugs, Apr 28, 2013
Photo of M1A2
3.75/5  rDev -8.3%

M1A2, Apr 28, 2013
Photo of homersimpson67
4.24/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Pours a very nice golden orange into my favorite tulip.
Nice 2-3 fingers of lacing that linger and drape the sides of the glass.
Smell is a familiar pine and grapefruit mix although subtle and not overpowering.
A nice bitter touch to the back of the tongue, a slightly softer version of Furious?
Overall another good, solid offering from Surly, will try again and perhaps let warm and age a little to bring out more flavor. Very young, fresh beer(canned 04/10/13)

p.s. Apologies, not quite as eloquent or creative as others but
Furious a failure, really? Perhaps at the west coast style but far from a failure!

homersimpson67, Apr 28, 2013
Photo of WillCarrera
4.34/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

16 oz can, canned on 4/10/13, poured into a tulip glass.

A- Pour a clear golden-orange color, topped with an inch of creamy white head, leaves good lacing.

S- Great, super-hoppy aroma. Loads of citrus, rind, pine resin, some mild earthy hop aromas.

T- Again, really awesome. The hops are huge, with lots of that citrusy, piney, slightly earthy West coast hop profile. It's also balanced with a sweet caramel malt, the amount of sweetness is really spot-on. Leaves some piney, fruity hop flavors in the finish.

M- Medium-bodied, smooth feel, very nice.

O- This is pretty tasty stuff. You already knew this, but Surly makes a damn good IPA. I could drink this all day.

WillCarrera, Apr 28, 2013
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4.5/5  rDev +10%

benjamincarter, Apr 28, 2013
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4.5/5  rDev +10%

cfinch2, Apr 28, 2013
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4/5  rDev -2.2%

bscalt, Apr 27, 2013
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4/5  rDev -2.2%

ADTaber, Apr 27, 2013
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4.25/5  rDev +3.9%

bsuedekum, Apr 27, 2013
Photo of StonedTrippin
3.94/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

kind of a funny concept here, and a hilarious story on the back of the can to accompany this actually not overrated at all ipa. the fourth of july looking can pours a light copper colored brew with two inches of bone white foaming head. the nose is indeed akin to the west coast styles, high alpha, simple barley malt, and a sticky fresh character that reminds me of the finest ganja. the flavor is perhaps a little less dank than the nose, a little more in balance, but the sweeter, juicy hops definitely take center stage. some subtle notes of mango or guava or something else tropical, but this isn't a fruit ipa at all, its pretty straight forward really. good carbonation keeps its pep all the way through, while the body is sort of middle of the spectrum. this is rather drinkable for its size, and one can was definitely not enough to satiate me. I would get this regularly if it were available in Colorado. an enjoyable stab at the arrogant left coast scene.

StonedTrippin, Apr 27, 2013
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4.25/5  rDev +3.9%

karlt, Apr 27, 2013
Photo of feloniousmonk
4.34/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Clear, golden colored, beautiful white, lasting head. Looks the very picture of a class West Coast IPA. All systems go, ready or not.

Aroma: ahhh….yep, it's hitting all the right notes. Sticky, prickly pine, plenty of citric notes, blasts of tropical fruit, lemon and pineapple hit the forest floor. Put the grapefruit in mango and mix it all up. Perfectly pleasing.

Taste of it: Boom, boom. It's got it all, bangs the right spots, strikes the right notes. Not too much malt body to interfere with the hop delivery. Body is lean and light, dropping hop delights with each new sip. In each way possible, this meets the mark of the West Coast IPA. Which makes me wonder…but, first, let's read that can…

What's with the HYPE? It's been said; "It's easier to brew an extremely hoppy beer than an extremely balanced beer." And you know us, we are always looking for the easy way out, so we jumped on the West Coast IPA Bandwagon and brewed this dry and hoppy ale. "Surly's a little bit of a one-trick pony, they just brew gimmick beers," and maybe we are OVER-RATED, but at the end of the day, it's just a beer, if you like it, great, so do we. If you only liked us when we were small, then leave this one of the shelf. Let one of the fanboys grab it."

I'm going to pick this apart for a bit. From day one, Surly had always been trying to jump on the "West Coast IPA bandwagon", but they flubbed it with that failure, Furious. Next thing: Is the part in quotes directly from some review online, and does that person feel silly, or superior? Next: I hate the phrase "at the end of the day". Political talking heads on the 24-hour news networks use it constantly, over and over, and it pisses me off to see it on a Surly label. Finally, …oh, the fanboys. How much anti-Surly resentment did they turn around and stuff into that small bit of copy? Why is there still anti-Surly resentment? Haven't those people dried up and blown away already?

So what am I wondering…ah, this is damnably delicious. And what if Surly had debuted with Under-blown, or…Extra-plated..what was it? Yeah, over-rated. It's nearly a note-perfect rendition of the much beloved West Coast IPA, San Diego style. Surly originally was meant to be a provider for our region, our marketplace, of this type of brew, the type not found in our homeland. But their "over-hopped", "over-hyped" Furious seemed to really fit an unscratched itch, a never-known niche. Detractors of Furious and it's over-done hopping forget the major amount of malts involved. Maybe that's what helped it over the hump, and let this community of beer drinkers take that overly hoppy wonder to our collective bosom? If they'd led with something like this, a clear clone of the West Coast style of IPA, so plump with the citrus and piney qualities, instead of something with a bigger malt component like Furious, would it have been the same? Would it have eventually met with popularity, or relative indifference, except for the rabid, hop-hungry species beers geekicus?

It is dry. It is hoppy. It's very bitter, and what's weird? It's about a dollar a 4-pack less than Furious. Because they could save money on the malt. Man, that must be how those over-hopped, over-hyped beers work. That's how they getcha man, that's how they do it.

Already some wags on the net are saying "it's, dare I say it, better than Furious." "Better than"? More to the taste of your hop-greedy palate, perhaps. Also, perhaps, these people are the ones I spoke of earlier, the ones Surly wasn't ready to cater to seven years ago, and have merely been biding their time pretending to enjoy Furious until Surly would produce something leaner, hoppier, drier, …here's what I'll say: while I appreciate this, respect it, like it, nay, love it…it only proves to underscore what a successful creation Furious truly is. I'll also say this: …no forget it, I've said it all already. Good one, but will not replace Furious for me. I'm glad they finally did it, though, and wish it would stick around. Top notch effort, lads. I enjoy over-rating your beers, but, you knew that, fanboy that I am.

feloniousmonk, Apr 27, 2013
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4.25/5  rDev +3.9%

QuentinCall, Apr 27, 2013
Photo of MNishCT77
4.68/5  rDev +14.4%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

16 oz. can purchased in the greater Washington D.C. area, canned on 4/9/13, poured into a DFH pseudo-IPA glass, drank 4/26-27/13 over two hours.

A: 4.75 - straw yellow coloration, impressive clarity (definitely can read through), frothy white one finger head with impressive retention, moderate-to-large alcohol legs for sub-10% beer

S: 4.5 - lots and lots of grapefruit, pine needle, tangerine, tropical fruits just pouring off the glass...could smell this one for days and not get bored

T: 4.75 - on the front of the tongue, it's what you'd expect from the aroma with bitterness but not overpoweringly so; as it settles in, there is a bready malt backbone that touches the taste buds but keeps it unbalanced in the best possible way; drying as fuck and almost takes the breath away on certain sips

M: 4.75 - moderate-to-full-bodied, alcohol is appropriately apparently; high (and impressive) carbonation just pouring off the bottom of the glass in tight little bubbles

O: 4.75 - best brewery in the U.S.? I have yet to have a Surly beer that hasn't been the best beer that I've drank on a particular evening and this is absolutely no exception; it's a pretty perfect smelling and tasting American IPA; overrated, dare I say that this brewery is actually underrated? I'll continue to drink everything that they put out and smile widely...

MNishCT77, Apr 27, 2013
Overrated West Coast IPA from Surly Brewing Company
91 out of 100 based on 1,064 ratings.