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Rogue Farms Dirtoir Black Lager - Rogue Ales

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BA SCORE
90
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591 Ratings
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Ratings: 591
Reviews: 284
rAvg: 4.02
pDev: 10.7%
Wants: 44
Gots: 28 | FT: 1
Brewed by:
Rogue Ales visit their website
Oregon, United States

Style | ABV
Schwarzbier |  6.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
Malts: Melanoidin, Carafe Special II, Black, Chocolate and Rogue Micro-Barley Farm first growth Risk malts.
Hops: Rogue Micro-Hop Yard first growth Independent and Revolution.
Yeast & Water: Oktoberfest Yeast & Free Range Coastal Water.

15º PLATO
35 IBU
130 AA
75º Lovibond

(Beer added by: Cresant on 12-22-2009)
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Photo of hippityhops85
3.9/5  rDev -3%
look: 5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

This beer is BEAUTIFUL. These schwarzbier's pour jet black with a big fluffy brown/tan head that holds some great retention. The head laces the glass beautifully.

I got some weird smells off this guy. First I got an almost caper smell with lots of exquisite toasted malts on top. Not a very strong nose to it but pretty unique.

The taste on this leaves me a little to be desired but it's still an excellent schwarzbier. The fire-roasted malts hit the pallet first followed by a nice smoky and brassy taste. The mouth feel is really good in my opinion. Contains the perfect amount of carbonation and it is not nearly as thick as it looks. I could see drinking this with a grilled game dinner or maybe a big turkey dinner. Definitely some good food pairings here.

I think the schwarzbier is a really developed taste (I've only had the Duck-Rabbit schwarzbier before this) and I don't think I quite have it yet but I can't say I've seen a more beautiful beer. Pick up some good smokey cheese and quaff a bit of this and you'll be extremely satisfied.

hippityhops85, Feb 25, 2010
Photo of Patrick999
4.03/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Yeah, so let's try this here....ummm....schwarzbier. Funny, because it looks more like a stout. Deep dark color with a crapload of coffee-colored foam. No lacing, but other than that they don't look too much better.

Bright acidic coffee in the aroma and bitter chocolate, fair bit of roastiness.

It does taste quite coffee-like to me even though this was brewed with no coffee. The charred malts and bitter hops are probably conspiring to create a general "coffee" sensation on my palate. Not terribly complicated, but what it does, it does well.

Doesn't come across as quite as creamy as you'd expect, but that's OK as this is supposed to kind of approximate a schwarzbier rather than a big American Stout. Stout flavors, with a bit of a lager feel.

Whatever the ABV is on this, I can't say I'm tasting it. Drinkable, could roll with a bunch of foods. I'd class this as very good, but falls short of greatness.

Patrick999, Feb 24, 2010
Photo of Ego
4.08/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

eyes...
wow, beautiful cap of dark to middle cocoa foam at a 3 finger level, this beer's hue is ray charles, the head settles at a modest pace leaving behind gobs of beer batter along the glass... doesn't get much better than this.

nose...
deep (dry/powder) cocoa notes with a hint of smoke, milk chocolate with a slight chemical linger, the smell dissipates pretty quickly and there is more of a wood-y tone present... very nice.

taste etc...
the carbonation seems oddly prickly and distracting, the toasty malt flavors are there and really coat the tongue, super easy drinking, nice malty flavors, when the carbonation calms down this is much more enjoyable.

verdict?
nice, thick tasting but lighter than the flavor punch

Ego, Feb 24, 2010
Photo of HardTarget
3.45/5  rDev -14.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours black as Dick Cheny's soul and sports a rocky dark brown head that clumps and holds the side of the glass.

Smells fantastic! Dark roasted coffee, burnt nibs, and a fresh green hop stank that promises grapefruit rind.

Taste, well... where'd all the flavors go? Mild dark lager that goes quickly to a burnt grain dry finish. There's a flash of chocolate and hops, but it's only microseconds long.

Mouthfeel is a bit light as well, which goes a touch frothy.

Drinkable, most definitely. I think I wanted this beer to be more than it is, which left me feeling "All hat and no cattle". I think it just smells much better than it tastes, which isn't all bad. Glad to see the GYO philosophy at work.

HardTarget, Feb 24, 2010
Photo of beer2day
4.47/5  rDev +11.2%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This has to be in the top 5 darkest beers I have ever poured. Light is actually leaving the room and entering the glass. One of the darkest heads I have ever seen on a beer. Nice 1-finger head with mild retention. Laces well.

Extreme roast malt nose. Chocolate, cocoa, bitter Jamaican coffee, and anise round things out. Very nice.

Hits thick and bitter. There is a hint of cream to the texture and an ever so slight fizziness, but what is there is an overwhelming bitterness that overpowers everything else, especially in the finish. Bitter chocolate, intense roast malt all combine in with a hop bite to really bring out a dry finish.

For a beer so intense, this is really easy to drink.

beer2day, Feb 24, 2010
Photo of elricorico
3.9/5  rDev -3%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

I can't say I've seen a beer look this dark and thick, while pouring it was opaque before hitting the glass. A large foamy chocolate malt coloured head forms and lasts a long time.

Smells all roasted and toasted with plenty of dark chocolate and bitter coffee in the aroma. Smokiness seems to be present, just a touch of campfire in the mix.

Doesn't feel as thick as it looked, and the flavours seem like there are a slightly dulled version of the aroma. More coffee than chocolate, and smokiness isn't so apparent. Bit of a cola sweetness up front, finish is bitter roasted flavour. Carbonation active, but not very aggressive. Good, but didn't quite live up to expectation. I'd like to see just a bit more body or a bit more carbonation (but not both).

I got quite excited on the pour, this is one of the best looking beers I've poured myself to date. The drinking is solid, but not quite exceptional. Worth checking out.

elricorico, Feb 23, 2010
Photo of hosehead83
4.13/5  rDev +2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a bomber bottle into a standard pint glass
Deep, dark, inky black in color, with a chocolate milk-like head of foam
Aroma-Roasted malts and coffee
Taste-roasted coffee,baker's chocolate, a nice hop backbone throughout.
Overall, very drinkable and flavorful-A bit lighter alternative to a stout or porter but with all the flavor.

hosehead83, Feb 22, 2010
Photo of BeerBelcher
3.05/5  rDev -24.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Sometimes you look at the scores of others on this site, and just sort of say "huh?" And that is my reaction in this particular case. Schwarzbier is not necessarily the most dynamic of styles, but this particular example is full of flavor. I'm just not sure that all that flavor really belongs in a beer of this style and if I really like the flavor that's there.

It pours a pretty thick black - much more like Imperial Stout than Scharzbier. Color is there, but viscosity is off. Aroma was to me less roasty than it was smokey. This was confirmed to me upon my first few sips, which were decidedly smokey and to my mind a bit on the earthy/peaty side. Not light on the tongue like Sprecher Bavarian Black or Kostritzer, which I think of as sort of the American and international standards for the style. The flavor was pungent and not unpleasant, but not really delicious nor appropriate IMO either.

Still, not a bad beer. I bought 2 bottles of this at Blacklick Liquor in Columbus.

BeerBelcher, Feb 22, 2010
Photo of deereless
3.65/5  rDev -9.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: Absolutely pitch black without the slightest hint of light passing through, head is dark brown and tightly packed, as the head drops it shows some spots sticking to the side of the glass - 4.50, S: Massive amounts of coffee and chocolate on the nose as well as some burnt molasses or caramelized brown sugar which gives the beer a defined sweetness - 4.00, T: Hops are quite noticeable on the palate and provide a distinct bitterness, the flavor profile includes a hefty dose of ash, coffee and dark chocolate, definitely a lager yeast but otherwise the beer edges towards that of a stout - 3.50, Faintly creamy -3.50, D: A fine beer and one I would happily drink again - 3.50

deereless, Feb 22, 2010
Photo of elniko
4.22/5  rDev +5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from bottle into Stella glass.

A: Wow, pitch black with nice off tan head. Nice creamy lacing. Really nice looking brew. Darkest schwarzbier that I have encountered.

S: Very strong nose, malt dominant dry chocolate roasty tones. Really nice, gotta rate a 5.

T & M: Taste did not quite match up with the greatness of the appearance or nose but still quite nice. Mouthfeel just slightly thin with a touch of creaminess. Taste corresponds with the nose with hop notes coming through on the finish.

D: Quite drinkable, due to typical Rogue high price don't think I'll be seeking out again but very glad I had this fine brew.

elniko, Feb 21, 2010
Photo of WesWes
4.08/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

The beer pours a pitch black color with a thick frothy brown head that slowly fades to lacing. The aroma is awesome! My lord, what a dry, earthy, black malt scent. It's bitter with a light hint of chocolate malt. The taste is great as well. It has a stiff, black malt flavor along with a just a touch of chocolate malt sweetness in the finish. It's like a double stout lager. It's incredibly dark and full bodied; more than any other black lager I've had. The mouthfeel is decent. It is a full bodied beer with a little less than adequate carbonation. This is a damn good lager. It's in your face with the black malts.

WesWes, Feb 21, 2010
Photo of Gosox8787
4.25/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Presentation: Bomber bottle poured into an Allagsh tulip glass in two parts. Served slightly chilled at around 40 degrees.

Appearance: Deep motor oil black. Completely opaque. The head is a deep dark brown and measures about one finger. Very little retention. Resembles more of a heavy stout or a imperial porter at first glance.

Aroma: Sweet milk chocolate is the first note that really hits the nose. A touch of earthy smoke appears near the end.

Taste: The first note to hit is bitter dark chocolate beans and espresso notes. Some smoke notes come in toward the end. I sensed some almost unnoticable citrus from the hops that cut this brew and helped make it less heavy. Clean aftertaste. Balanced yet complex flavors.

Mouthfeel: Medium bodied and a little chewy. Crisp, yet a little dry after each sip.

Drinkability: Balanced flavor, a crisp mouthfeel, and moderate ABV make this highly drinkable.

Overall, a really good beer. Not really a traditional schwarzbier is my option. More like a porter or a stout in my opinion. Either way, a flavorful and balanced beer. One of Rogue's better seletions and certainly worth trying.

Gosox8787, Feb 21, 2010
Photo of Monkeyknife
3.85/5  rDev -4.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from the bottle an opaque black with a single finger of creamy mocha head.

An aroma of dark roasted malts, espresso, dark chocolate and smoke.

Aroma, meet taste. Full flavor of dark roasted malts, espresso, dark chocolate, smoke and a touch of black licorice. The espresso and smoke carries thru the finish with a bitter bite.

Medium bodied and a tad sticky with a moderate carbonation.

An interesting beer and an interesting concept from the folks at Rogue. Definitely worth a try.

Monkeyknife, Feb 20, 2010
Photo of KarlHungus
4.03/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

After a vigorous pour with beer is black with a half inch head that sticks around long. The aroma is of roasted malt, some graham cracker, hints of baker's chocolate. This smells like a stout....a nice stout, but a stout nonetheless. The taste isn't same burly as the aroma, but it is still very stout like. In fact it reminds me a lot of a good Irish Dry Stout. There is some nice, light roasted malt with some light graham cracker too. The mouthfeel is medium bodied with moderate carbonation, and a smooth texture. Overall, this beer is certainly not a Schwarzbier. There is nothing about it that indicates it was brewed with a lager yeast. The front of the bottle calls it a lager, but the back simply says it is brewed with "German yeast." The thing is German yeast isn't a lager yeast. Germans brew ales too. And if memory serves me right Rogue considers its pacman yeast a german yeast. Thus, I consider this to be a good stout brewer with Rogue's signature yeast. Whatever it is, though, I think it is very good, and would like to see it in six packs.

KarlHungus, Feb 20, 2010
Photo of bcm119
4/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours viscous and jet black with a chunky brown head that leaves a lot of sticky lace. A very roasty nose with some earthy hops. Smooth, chocolately and highly roasty, but not burnt or toasted. Fairly chewy mouthfeel but very smooth and fairly clean. Hops are barely discernible other than providing a fresh, minty bitterness to support the roasty malt. Finishes pretty long and roasty but clean. Drinks more like a milk stout than any style of lager, although it shows lager smoothness and clarity of flavor. A supple, round, stout-like lager; very tasty.

bcm119, Feb 19, 2010
Photo of Slatetank
4/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

thanks to mughugger for sharing this w/ HombreWing, BitterBeerFace, abru17, and myself

Poured chilled from the bomber into a tumbler

A - Pours an opaque dark brown that borders on black w/ thick med tan cap that creates lots of lace, the beer has a tight bead

S - A very roasted aroma, creamy w/ coffee like scents and earthy notes like mild burnt biscuit

M - A very roasted feel, creamy malt and mild sweetness and slight chewiness with full texture that seems smoky at times but still suitably carbonation - pretty well balanced

T - A rich roastiness is apparent right off with slightly char or smokiness in the malt w/ bitter and slightly peaty quality. There is smooth caramel undercurrent under the intense roasted flavor w/ mild toasted notes. The beer has a biscuity taste, but roasted and black malt is bordering on heavy handed in the taste for me

D - A tasty black lager I would certainly not hesitate to try it again if I saw it on tap, but the price of bombers doesn't make this seem like a good value -up near $10 from what I am told which comes out to around .45 cents an ounce - I understand the terroir involved tends to increase the price, though

Slatetank, Feb 18, 2010
Photo of klewis
4.38/5  rDev +9%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A: Pours jet black with a big frothy head. Good sustain and tons of lacing.

S: Rich mocha aroma with a touch of anise.

T: A strong taste of anise - more than in any other beer that I've had. Plenty of roasted character with a perfect harmony of malt and hops.

M: Medium-light bodied and highly carbonated. Crisp and clean.

D: Although the pac-man yeast puts that good 'ol Rogue stamp on this one, it's as good as any German schwarz out there. Another great beer by Rogue.

klewis, Feb 18, 2010
Photo of jera1350
3.7/5  rDev -8%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

My first ever Schwarzbier. I would have guessed it was a stout.

Rich black color with deep brown head of fluff with lots of lacing.

A rather unappealing smell. The nose is dominated by a funky, earthy compost scent. It improves with time. There are large notes of chocolate and coffee malt as well.

The taste is a marked improvement over the nose. Very earthy. Loads of chocolate malt, coffee and a nice amount of hop bitterness.

Fluffy and creamy suds feel. Clean and extremely dry finish. Not full bodied, but approaches it.

A very drinkable stout, I mean, schwarzbier. Honestly it's hard to find much of a difference between the two with this beer. Very drinkable. The nose is a big downer for me though. Everything else about this beer is right on, but their is something going on with the scent. This beer would still appeal to a lot of people.

jera1350, Feb 18, 2010
Photo of brownbeer
4.38/5  rDev +9%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours more like an imperial stout than any sort of lager, black or otherwise. Black and oily with a dark brown head and good lacing.

Very nice roasty nose (coffee bean), cookie, dark chocolate. I would never guess this could be anything other than a stout.

The taste isn't as intense as the nose, but still pretty dark and roasty, bitter more from the malt than the hops, chocolaty fade. The mouthfeel is a little lighter than it looks from the pour. Very easy to drink.

This has to be one of the best examples of the style, if not the best.

brownbeer, Feb 16, 2010
Photo of bbeane
4.03/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A- Poured into a... looks like motor oil coming out of the bottle. A nice finger thick brown head erupts and slowly disappates leaving some clumps of brown lacing behind. As I said, beer is black in color and shows little if any light coming through when held up to the ceiling

S- Actually, the guy that reviewed it before me nailed it on the head... strong of coffee with a hint of leather

T- Starts with a burnt coffee and malt taste with a bit of hop bitterness coming through in the finish

M- Somewhat lighter in body then you'd expect from the color with light/medium carbonation

D- I know it was very limitted in my area, but if it were more available I would more than likely be inclined to buy it again

CHEERS!!

bbeane, Feb 15, 2010
Photo of dcajero
3.9/5  rDev -3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Black. Ain't nothing shining through held to the light. Head comes up with tight, tiny bubbles like a spray on insulation.

S - Coffee with a hint of leather.

T - More coffee with a hint of...beef? There's an almost sour saltiness in the after taste. Almost like a soy sauce.

M - Really lays across the tongue, not oily but definitely viscous. Not a big carbonation but what's there has a little bite.

D - A nice drinking beer here in the cold snowy night. I can't say I've tried many black lagers but I'm afraid my plebeian palate can't taste a big difference between this and porters in general.

dcajero, Feb 13, 2010
Photo of wagenvolks
3.95/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

22oz. bottle from the Whip-In, poured into a Löwenbräu mug.

A rich, stout-like liquid fills the glass with an opaque, jet black body and capped by an immense head the color of chocolate chip cookies. Good retention and lacing, but the appearance of Dirtoir strikes me more as a dark ale than a lager. Similar phenomenon to the aroma, as roast from black and chocolate malts, paired with an earthy hop profile, reminds me of Rogue's Shakespeare Stout. Yeasty, with hints of cookie dough and soil.

So the appearance, aroma, and NOW the flavor all suggest very little "Schwarzbier" and much more "Porter". Not saying Dirtoir is a bad beer (quite the opposite), but don't advertise a Lager and give me something that looks, smells, and tastes like an Ale. Roasted black chocolate malts add a healthy dose of perceived bitterness; hops are earthy...soil and coffee grounds in the finish. Decent mouthfeel, a bit on the thin side but nicely carbonated and smooth across the palate. All in all, a tasty entry into Rogue's catalogue. Looking forward to the "Second Growth" series...I wonder if they'll make a hop-forward beer with the first generation of their hop plants?

wagenvolks, Feb 13, 2010
Photo of Bitterbill
4.25/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This one pours a pitch black with a 2 finger creamy head of tan foam. Sheets of lacing are sticking to my glass. Well, it certainly looks the part and is a dandy to look at.

The smell is a bit weak; a dark and milk chocolate mix is all that my nose senses. Not bad in any way, just weak.

The taste is light on the chocolate when it comes to sweet and heavy on the chocolate when it comes to dark/bitter. A light roastiness lingers in the background. Hey, this is pretty darned tasty and I don't get a sense of any hop bitterness, it's all from the chocolate imho, and that's what I was hoping for.

Wow. The more I sip, the more I like! There's no abv listed on the label, the usual M.O. for Rogue, and I doubt I'd find it on their website but I'd *guess* this would be right around and about 5%abv, maybe less.

The mouthfeel, surprising for a beer of this style, is on the higher end of medium and the carbonation is medium. That makes it very smooth for me.

Drinkability? Hell this is an easy drinker. I know I'll be picking up more. Well done, Rogue.

Bitterbill, Feb 12, 2010
Photo of jdmcel
4.28/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22 oz Bomber poured into a Smuttynose Big Beer Tulip.

A: Poured a oil black colored with a tan head about 1/4 of an inch thick.

S: Sweet roasted malts.

T: A sweet lightly smoked molasses with a hint of cream.

M: A very smooth medium bodied beer.

D: Very drinkable, sessionable brew. I really enjoyed this beer. I look forward to some more of the GYO's from Rogue

jdmcel, Feb 12, 2010
Photo of MrHungryMonkey
4.08/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Nose is rich and roasty, dark and sweet, yet dry and woody. Smells good.

Pours jet black with very large light brown head. Looks very nice.

Tastes also rich and roasty, dark and sweet, and nicely dry and woody. Thick and malty. Significantly bitter. Dark chocolaty. Lightly grassy.

Significantly richer, thicker, and maltier than a typical Schwarzbier. Delightful.

MrHungryMonkey, Feb 12, 2010
Rogue Farms Dirtoir Black Lager from Rogue Ales
90 out of 100 based on 591 ratings.