Chatoe Rogue First Growth Creek Ale - Rogue Ales

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Chatoe Rogue First Growth Creek AleChatoe Rogue First Growth Creek Ale

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Ratings: 163
Reviews: 108
rAvg: 3.34
pDev: 19.16%
Wants: 2
Gots: 8 | FT: 0
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Oregon, United States

Style | ABV
Dubbel |  6.00% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: CampusCrew on 08-21-2010

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

Brewed using 8 ingredients: Wheat, Rogue Barley Farm Dare and Risk Malts, Rogue Hopyard Revolution Hops, Montmorency Cherries, Pacman and Belgian Yeast and Free Range Coastal Water.

15º PLATO
25 IBU
77 AA
75º Lovibond
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Ratings: 163 | Reviews: 108
Photo of palma
3.99/5  rDev +19.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Not sure why the rip on this beer.

It's a very ripe black cherry flavor rather than sour. Excellent malt backbone. Bread, chocolate notes at the end. Significantly maltier than other fruit cherry beers I.e Sam smith, New glarus, etc.

Very drinkable if you like fruit beers. If you don't then why diss it?

Well made and the quality malt profile makes this beer.

Photo of Brenden
3.17/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Still on shelves at Joseph's, it's not out of date according to the bottle.

It's a pretty orange-brown with some fire in it, translucent due solely to being fairly dark. The tan head starts off at half a finger and shows fair retention, though lacing actually ends up sticking very well.
A mix of sweet and tart on the nose, it offers caramel and brown sugar along with something like Michigan cherries. It's a bit earthy with something like kitchen spices, fairly nondescript. There seems to be an odd note to the grains or malts, difficult to describe.
Cherries are up front along with caramel. The malts are also a little bready, and some woody sort of something comes out with it. I'm not really getting much of the yeast, though a bit of something like clove peeks through. Overall, the flavor's a little subdued, and it seems almost to be all over the place and not meshing especially well.
The medium body leans toward full. It doesn't have much depth and seems to fade off at the end of every sip. It's got moderate crispness and is pretty smooth. It does lack the character that makes the great Belgians what they are. The end dries up a little with some acidic sort of character.

Photo of twiggamortis420
4.06/5  rDev +21.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Review from old notes, drank fresh. 22 oz bottle pours a reddish, copper color with a fine-bubbled tan head. Decent lacing, average retention.

Signature Pacman yeast pervades the nose along with an equally identifiable smooth maltiness. Light hint of cherries...pretty faint overall but Id like to think I could identify this as a Rogue beer blinded.

Taste has more cherries than the nose would indicate. Base beer seems like a basic brown ale but showcases the cherries pretty well. This is one of the better offerings from Rogue, I rather liked this one.

Photo of Beer_Seer
2.7/5  rDev -19.2%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

The first thing that I noticed was the head. It had a big bubble rice crispy treat head that quickly vanished (not the "dense creamy head" advertised on the bottle.) leaving behind a funky nose that smelled of grandma's stale cherry potpourri at the bottom of a cardboard box. While some have described it as having a sweet malt taste my bottle was mostly the Montmorency cherries which I believe also contributed the the very cloudy appearance. The one thing that I can say that I enjoyed a little with this beer was the mouthfeel. While I was expecting a heavier mouthfeel the medium weight was okay with me.

Beer should be enjoyable. Maybe to someone this would be but not to me. Generally I am easy to please and it is rare than I come across a craft beer that doesn't have some appeal to me. This however had very little if any.

If I were to revamp this beer the the first thing that I would do is cut back on the cherries. Secondly, I'd go ahead and try to make it darker. With the cloudy appearance you might as well. Thirdly, I'd fix that head somehow. It was most disappointing.

Overall rating on this beer is a 2.5 in my book.

Photo of mwilbur
3.43/5  rDev +2.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Poured from 22 oz bottle into shaker pint glass.
A: Pours a murky mahogany with a thin light tan head that quickly dissipates.
S: Bready yeast, light dried fruit, cherries, and sweet malt.
T: Tart cherries, sweet caramel malt, and a fresh yeast note.
M: Light body. Softly sweet.
D: Meh. Not a ton here...coulda been better.

Photo of brock146
3.59/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

A: Brown/Mahogany beer with bubbly tan head that quickly dissipates. Very murky.

S: There really isn't that strong of a smell. Kind of smells sweet and sugary.

T: Sweet and tart cherries with a hint of brown sugar

M: Light and smooth.

O: I was expecting more.... but its a decent beer.

Photo of superspak
3.48/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

22 ounce bottle into signature pint glass, no bottle dating. Pours hazy reddish brown color with a 1 finger dense off white head with good retention, that reduces to a thin cap that lingers. Light soapy lacing clings down the glass. Aromas of caramel, raisin, cherry, cherry skin, toast, toffee, dark bread, brown sugar, earth, and light herbal hops. Nice and pleasant aromas with good strength and balance of malty notes; decent complexity. Taste of cherry, raisin, cherry skin, fig, caramel, toast, brown sugar, dark bread, herbal, and lightly earthy yeast esters. Some light earthy fruit tartness on the finish; with lingering notes of cherry, raisin, fig, caramel, toast, brown sugar, dark bread, herbal, and earthiness on the finish for a bit. Very solid balance of malty and fruity flavors; with minimal cloying flavors present after the finish. Light-medium carbonation and medium bodied; with a slick and fairly syrupy mouthfeel that is ok. Alcohol is well hidden with only a small warming noticed after the finish. Overall this is a very solid Belgian style fruit beer. Good flavor balance of dark maltiness and fruits with decent complexity; and quite smooth to drink. A fairly enjoyable offering.

Photo of brethartt
3.38/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Came across this bottle in Oregon a year ago, I have never seen it southern California where I live, the distribution was limited. This is part of the chatoe rogue line and is a GYO, grow your own, meaning the hops and barley were grown by rogue but not technically an estate beer.

This beer was around a year and a half old. It poured a dark brown reddish color, cloudy appearance. There was little head and did not linger. The smell was light with no strong characters other then malt.

The taste was mildly malt forward with some light cherries at the end. This was not overly sweet and had a faint tartness to the finish. The beer seemed more exciting then it was, but I did like how it drank.

overall not worth seeking out, but worth trying if you come across it.

Photo of Kegatron
3.13/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

22 oz bottle into a couple of goblets. I didn’t realize that this one was retired. I’ve had it sitting in the fridge for a while now.

Pours a clear dark ruby, with a finger of rich off-white head. This retains with a smooth foaminess and a rich cascade that hangs spotty swathes of lace down the sides of the glass. The aroma smells of tart cherries, some light earthy hops, a touch of mineral notes and some sweet sugars on the edges.

The taste is cherry flavor, which has a definite bitter pithiness to it that mingle with some light earthy citrus notes and a sweet sugary feel that lingers on the edges. The overall profile here though is mostly about the cherries, which are what linger the most here with a dry and pithy feel on the finish. The mouthfeel is medium bodied, with a soft crispness in the mouth that firms up more the longer it sits on the tongue. This is actually pretty lively feeling overall.

This was interesting. I really don’t think that I would call it a Dubbel but it was at least a decently flavored Cherry Ale that drank well. Unfortunately, nothing really stood about out though besides the cherries. Could be why it isn’t brewed anymore.

Photo of Phyl21ca
1.72/5  rDev -48.5%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 1 | overall: 1.5

Bottle: Poured a deep cloudy reddish color ale with a large foamy head with average retention and minimal lacing. Aroma consists of cherries with clear cough syrup notes and lightly sweet malt notes. Taste is also dominated by sweet cherries with some definite notes of cough syrup which are not that easily discernable. Body is full with light filtration and good carbonation. I really couldn’t get the cough syrup notes out of my mouth and I finally drain poured the reminder of my glass.

Photo of vette2006c5r
3.24/5  rDev -3%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Creek ale pours a redish color, with almost no head. There was a sweet candy like smell, with lots of cheeries. The taste is rather strong, and very sweet, lots of sugar flavors, with hints of cheeries. While there was a nice full flavor, it was a bit too sweet. Overall not horrible, the cherry flavors made it interesting and novel.

Photo of tvv375ia
2.83/5  rDev -15.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

poured from 22oz bottle into imperial pint glass

A-cloudy mahogany with about 2 finger head that fades to a small cap leaving a little lacing behind

S-a little carmel malt and some dark fruit

T-dark fruit is all cherry in the taste and some sweet brown sugar

M-highly carbonationed and fizzy

O-more of a cherry soda than beer because it is so fizzy and cherry flavored

Photo of Kromes
3.4/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

A: An opaque reddish brown with a thin tan colored head.

S: Of course it resembles a Kriek lambic in smell. There is a touch of brown sugar and fig also.

T: A somewhat tart cherry flavor up front that mixes with a slight brown sugar flavor. The cherry really takes over the beer all the way into the finish which is tart and dry.

M: Good feel, light and has good carbonation that makes the beer refreshing.

O: Pretty good. Judging it as a dubbel, it's average.

Photo of avalon07
3.58/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: Poured from a bottle to a snifter. Had a brown color and a cloudy consistency. There was an inch of creamy, fairly long-lasting head. Not much lacing.

S: Smelled of cherries, but not a whole lot else. A little one-dimensional.

T: Like the aroma, the taste was dominated by cherries, but it also had some malt and yeast as well. A little thin, especially in the finish. Not a terrible flavor, but seems a bit slapdash.

M: A good amount of carbonation with a smooth finish. Medium-bodied.

O: I don't know if I'd call this beer a Dubbel - it seems more like a fruit beer to me. No matter what you call it, it seems very uneven.

Photo of tlazaroff
2.96/5  rDev -11.4%
look: 2 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

A: Pours out a murky brown color with an almost-white head. Not all that much to look at.

S: A lot of sweetness coming off on the nose on this beer: caramel, and maraschino cherries. I get no hops on the nose at all.

T: I get some puckering effect from the tartness of the cherries which tells me, though, that this beer isn't sweet. There is nothing wrong with this beer, I just don't care for it. Rogue lists it on their website as a Pale Ale, BA lists it as a Dubbel - it is neither. It's identity is lost somewhere.

M: Big carbonation and a medium body.

D: It's quite drinkable, however, put everything together and it's just not a good beer for me.

Photo of StaveHooks
2.48/5  rDev -25.7%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

A - Rusty brown body with an off-white head.

S - Tart cherries, brown sugar, raisins.

T - Acidic and tart cherries up front. Some burnt brown sugar, raisins, hints of caramel malt. Finishes semi dry. Aftertaste is like cherry NyQuil.

M - Moderate fizzy carbonation, thin body.

The tart cherry flavor is the only thing going for this beer. It just falls flat and halfway through I had no desire to continue.

Photo of litheum94
3.85/5  rDev +15.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22 oz bottle. No dates.

Weirdly colored body, not quite red, not quite brown. The bottle says mahogany, so we'll go with that. Looks like brackish water. 2 finger tan head that fizzles out to a faint cover.

Black cherry sweetness with a slight medicinal essence. It reminds me of a Luden's cough drop. Not getting much more than the cherries.

Dry and malty. Very grainy. Cooked cherries, more sweet than tart, but just right. Some earthy yeast tones give this a doughy, cherry pie feeling.

Fairly one dimensional, but still a nice beer. Good cherry flavors.

Photo of ckollias
3.88/5  rDev +16.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Enjoyed this 22oz bottle out of a large snifter glass.

A: Very hazy brown-amber hue with a thin ½-finger head that quickly dissipates leaving only a trace of a trail on the glass and ending in a wispy lace.

S: Sweet malty aroma with hints of cherries and fruits.

T: Starts out very sweet ale with solid malt background. Cherries and dark fruits dominate the palate with every sip, but aren’t overwhelming like a lambic brew.

M: Medium body and minimal carbonation

O: Interesting brew – surprised to find out it was discontinued since my looking beer store had three or four of these left. My wife wanted to try it and we both rather enjoyed it – although I think she was looking for more of a fruity beer. I like the way the cherries were blended in nicely for enjoyable brew.

Photo of mrfrancis
2.81/5  rDev -15.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

A: Pours a dark fuchsia with a creamy beige head. The color is definitely eye-catching. Very interesting.

S: Faint aromas of bread, yeast, tart cherries, and nutty malt. The nose is a bit underwhelming. I was hoping for a bit more cohesion.

T: Opens tart and fruity with notes of tart cherry skin, heavy cream, almonds, nougat, yeast, and grassy, herbal hops. The finish is slight with fleeting notes of tart cherries and herbal hops.

M: Oily in the mouth and it never seems to dry out. Much lighter in body than I would have liked it to be.

O: This one simply does not do a thing for me. I don't know where Rogue was going with this one.

Photo of rhoadsrage
3.58/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

(Served in a chalice)

A- This beer pours a dense brown body with a glowing dark cherry glow at the base of the glass. There is a lumpy beige head that is supported by a slow motion carbonation of microbubbles.

S- The nose has a touch of dark cherries with some dark jammy notes in the finish. The nose gets a bit stronger as the beer opens but not much depth.

T- The dry tart cherries taste cooked like pie filling with some green unripe fruit notes underneath. There is a doughy pie crust note with a hint of malt in the finish.

M- This beer has a medium mouthfeel with no alcohol heat noticed.

O- This beer does have some full cherry flavors but they are a bit one dimensional and taste more cooked than fresh. There wasn't really any malt to support the fruit flavor.

Photo of GrumpyJunglist
4/5  rDev +19.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Poured out a muddy brown color. Mild head from the poor that disappears very quickly. The head was a off white color which was gone within 10/15 seconds.

S: Aromas of bread and biscuit, with some major tones of carame. There is a faint scent of cherry at the end.

T: Flavors of up front citrus and cherries, followed up by some bread and caramel.

M: Fair amount of carbonation, very smooth i thought.

O: I dig this, it is essentially a nice creaminess with some sour cherry aspects.

Photo of DCon
4.85/5  rDev +45.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Bought a 1 PT. 6 FL.OZ. bottle @ Adam Fine Wine & Liquor in Redondo Beach, CA for $14.99 and shared w/ GeoffTheAleMan. Poured from the what looks like Grape infused bottle but clearly states Cherries on the front of the bottle, into a Samuel Adams Imperial Pint Glass. Does not have a freshness date.

Aroma- Complexed as hell! Has a strong cherry aroma that is prominent but then the high fruitness/malt aroma is strong as well. Very complexed!

Appearance- Pours a 2 finger head that is off-white and last for good time. Dark amber body and looks like the body is full of ingredient. Has nice sudsy, thick lacing.

Flavor- Very pure! Not sure I've ever tasted a higher malted beer like this! Tons of cherries and has the wine attributes. Well balanced too.

Mouthfeel- Medium-Full Body, Medium-High Carbonation, Has more strength, power, and intensity then anything I've ever had! My mouth cannot even take everything happening! Leaves tons of sweetness in the mouth afterwards. Can't get any better than this!

Overall Impression- I can't believe whats happening in this brew! Starts like a cool, red wine and then hits with the most interesting, rarest mouthfeel that I've ever experience. I'm very happy that I buy brews when I'm in different states that look rare or limited while I don't know if they're rated good or not. I am going to be looking to trade for this beer even! A+ I Recommend for ANYONE! Your next beer to buy in OR/CA.

Photo of mactrail
2.68/5  rDev -19.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

Disturbing murky taste at first sip. Flat flavor with a touch of canned plums. Pours a cloudy brownish amber in the wine glass, though it has nice lacing. Maybe they had something in mind when they made this, but it's more of a stew than a style. Reminds me of old, oxidized Cold Duck champagne. Somehow manages to be both insipid and overly acidic. Metallic aftertaste.

Bought this out of the cooler at Rogue taproom in San Francisco.

Photo of jsled
2.52/5  rDev -24.6%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

P: 2/5. Boysenberry purple. Dark. Very cloudy. Nearly opaque. No head.

A: 3/5. Deep stone fruit. Cherries. Fig. Caramel. No hop aroma.

F: 5/10. Initially tart, but quickly goes away. Cherry, caramel. Some bitterness.

M: 2/5. Medium body. Some lingering, but not overwhelming. Pleasant cherry aftertaste.

O: 4/10. Okay. Not great, but fine.

Photo of Rhettroactive
2.37/5  rDev -29%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 2.5

From 22oz bomber to Jackie's O's tulip on 7/14/11
*From notes

A: Lovely presentation. Unfiltered pinkish-red radish in color, with a touch of warm amber at the edges. Solid 2.75 finger head on a good pour. The head dies quite quickly, leaving just a bit of lacing.

S: Medicinal, processed prune juice. As it warms, it's got a stagnant metallic quality to it that's extremely off-putting.

T: The taste is a touch better then the nose, but it sure isn't gonna win Rogue any awards. Cloyingly acicic, with an odd and salty rotting red fruit flavor. Mild malt hits the mid. The backbone of this beer should be the concentration of fruit, but instead they seem to have bastardized it, as it's flimsy and thin. Dissapointing.

M: Really? We're calling this a Dubbel? EPIC FAIL. It's all soft carbonation up front and awkwardly oily and sinfully thin on the back of the palate.

D: Rogue's Chatoe Rogue First Frowth Creek Ale is yet another dissapointment from the crew at Rogue. To call it a Dubbel is insulting to real, well produced Dubbels like St. Bernardus Prior 8 and Westmalle's Dubbel.

In the future I'll most certainly be avoiding this, and I heartily recommend that you do the same.

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Chatoe Rogue First Growth Creek Ale from Rogue Ales
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