Chatoe Rogue First Growth Creek Ale - Rogue Ales
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Reviews by monkeylovebeer:
3.35/5 rDev -0.3%
The DIY ethic runs deep in brewers. I think it would be safe to say that most folks that get into the craft beer business arrive there through their own home brewing experience. What else could be the logical extension of wanting to brew your own beer than growing all your own ingredients?
Sierra Nevada's Estate Homegrown Ale could be seen as a forerunner to this "revolution." Whether this becomes a trend probably will depend on the continued ability for hops and grains to be transported affordably and reliably. With pundits predicting gas shooting up past five bucks a gallon next year, it might just be time to start jack hammering that parking lot. But I digress.
This Creek, or more succinctly, "Kriek" Ale pours murky reddish brown and throws a healthy whipped cream-thick eggshell-colored head with excellent retention and very little lacing. The first sip delivers sour Montmorency cherries and a sweet malt profile based on two homegrown malts, Dare and Risk, in the mash. Rogue is pitching their proprietary Pacman yeast strain, which is pretty neutral, along with a Belgian, which contributes some mild clove, banana, and spice notes.
This brew has almost no hop profile, which is a shame, as they went to the trouble of growing their own Revolution hops. The few distributors that offer a description of this strain, seem to place Revolution in the mild, "where a refined and 'noble' hop character is desired," category.
Personally, I would have liked to see Rogue use a little more aggressive hop, but that's just me, I'm sick that way. As it stands, Rogue's baby isn't bad, just ill defined. Not sour enough to be a sour, not yeasty enough for a Belgian; the mouthfeel is watery and non-descript, lacking the strident carbonation usually associated with the Belgian styles.
The trouble with blazing a trail is that you get to do all the heavy lifting: slogging through the swamps and stumbling into the sinkholes that followers will take for granted. I don't mean to imply that Rogue's Creek Ale tastes in anyway like, well ... creek, it just that pioneer cookin' isn't going to make Zagat's list anytime soon.
03-26-2011 03:23:09 | More by monkeylovebeer
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3.9/5 rDev +16.1%
In a goblet the beer was a garnet color with a thin tan head.
Chocolate aroma, alcohol, and a little bit of cherry.
It tasted like one of those cherry candies, where there's a cherry inside of a chocolate with some kind of sweet liquer, just in a more understated manner.
Despite the sweet taste, I thought this was on the dry side.
11-15-2010 01:32:19 | More by lordofthewiens
3.43/5 rDev +2.1%
Bomber pours a dark chestnut body with a medium offwhite head that lasts quite a while. Creamy lace sticks to the glass.
Aroma is very subdued. Malty caramel and a hint of tart cherries, nothing else.
Medium body and carbonation.
Taste is dominated by malty caramel that borders on chewy, imparting a lasting sweetness. No significant hop presence but for an earthy bittering balance. Cherry tartness is very subtle, not lending enough character for this to be called a fruit beer. Yeast presence is more Pacman than Belgian, making it hard for me to think of this as a dubbel. A hint of cocoa adds some interest midway through but quickly fades. No hint of alcohol.
Not bad, but not one I would revisit. Not sure what Rogue was aiming for with this one.
12-30-2010 14:42:04 | More by merlin48
3.68/5 rDev +9.5%
Thanks to barzigkin for sharing this bottle.
The beer pours a reddish-amber color with a white head. The aroma is heavy on the toffee and cherries, but other than that, I don't get anything.
The flavor is more of the same. I get a lot of cherries, roasted malt and chocolate. Fairly straightforward, but still drinkable and enjoyable.
Medium mouthfeel and medium carbonation.
Glad I got to try this one.
12-22-2010 06:13:07 | More by Mora2000
4.33/5 rDev +28.9%
Deep dark cherry tinted brown body with a hint of tannish pink tinted head forming thick and dwindling even quicker thin speckled lacing surrounds the sides of my glass. Aroma has a tart cherry deep roasted malt combo going on. The tart cherries rule this brew, but especially in the nose. Strong tart cherry nose this doesn't smell like a typical dubbel, and after tasting it I would call it a weak sour ale. Flavor is full on tart cherries with touch of powdered spicy yeast noted and sliced bread. Malts don't bring out much sweetness that can be detected amongst the earthy sour yet sweet Montmorency cherries added. Finishes bone dry with hints of lactic acid, quite enjoyable even seems like there's a hint of oak barrel aging. I'm not sure if this one has that going for it but with the malts and the cherries I'm getting that vibe. Mouthfeel is medium bodied evenly carbonated nothing cloying on the palate, leaves me feeling good. I like the tart/sour drying finish between each sip, burps send alcohol and a fruit tartness up your nares that just makes me like the beer that much more. Overall drinkability I'm in cruise control, this one satisfies me in a couple ways cherry fruit/tartness/hints of bitter slightly spiced yeast components and gives me the vibe that it's been barrel aged whether or not it has I don't really care. I like the overall experience.
12-25-2010 04:58:54 | More by WVbeergeek
2.83/5 rDev -15.8%
ST: 22oz bomber poured into a chalice. The bottle does not have a fresh by date or the alcohol percentage listed.
A: Dense and cloudy mahogany with a thin head that lacks retention: it settles in to a slight mist in the center of the glass.
S: Sweet malt, caramel, lots of dark cherry, mild alcohol, and cake.
T: Lots of sweet cherry, watered down malt, and some caramel. Very little hops for balance. Not very sour as the creek implies (but there is slight sour).
M: Medium and watery.
O: This beer is disappointing in many ways. It lacks the dense head the bottle promises and does not have the carbonation the style requires. The flavors and mouthfeel are watery and the hops are not very present for balance. Further is does not totally deliver on the sour nature of a creek (kriek). I have never had a Rogue beer I thought was bad, but this beer comes close to that thought. To be honest, I am afraid that I might have bought a beer that was simply past its prime (too old) or might have been damaged by elements somehow. The beer seems too off. Still, I have no idea if it is past its prime since Rogue does not have a fresh date on the bottle. Since I am unsure I am going to give this an overall 3.0. If I ever get my hands on another bottle I'll make sure to update this.
07-14-2011 21:23:49 | More by ianjsullivan
3.58/5 rDev +6.5%
(Served in a chalice)
A- This beer pours a dense brown body with a glowing dark cherry glow at the base of the glass. There is a lumpy beige head that is supported by a slow motion carbonation of microbubbles.
S- The nose has a touch of dark cherries with some dark jammy notes in the finish. The nose gets a bit stronger as the beer opens but not much depth.
T- The dry tart cherries taste cooked like pie filling with some green unripe fruit notes underneath. There is a doughy pie crust note with a hint of malt in the finish.
M- This beer has a medium mouthfeel with no alcohol heat noticed.
O- This beer does have some full cherry flavors but they are a bit one dimensional and taste more cooked than fresh. There wasn't really any malt to support the fruit flavor.
09-27-2011 20:54:20 | More by rhoadsrage
3.15/5 rDev -6.3%
Still on shelves at Joseph's, it's not out of date according to the bottle.
It's a pretty orange-brown with some fire in it, translucent due solely to being fairly dark. The tan head starts off at half a finger and shows fair retention, though lacing actually ends up sticking very well.
A mix of sweet and tart on the nose, it offers caramel and brown sugar along with something like Michigan cherries. It's a bit earthy with something like kitchen spices, fairly nondescript. There seems to be an odd note to the grains or malts, difficult to describe.
Cherries are up front along with caramel. The malts are also a little bready, and some woody sort of something comes out with it. I'm not really getting much of the yeast, though a bit of something like clove peeks through. Overall, the flavor's a little subdued, and it seems almost to be all over the place and not meshing especially well.
The medium body leans toward full. It doesn't have much depth and seems to fade off at the end of every sip. It's got moderate crispness and is pretty smooth. It does lack the character that makes the great Belgians what they are. The end dries up a little with some acidic sort of character.
12-11-2013 21:08:38 | More by Brenden
3.5/5 rDev +4.2%
Another 22oz 'power to the people', DIYFS from Farmer Rogue.
This beer pours a murky orange-tinted brown, with some anemic floaties, and one finger of foamy off-white head, which leaves some very sparse lace around the glass as it falls away. It smells of ashy, biscuity grain, a slight acidic fruitiness, and earthy hops. The taste is somewhat yeasty, sugary, boozy dubbel-dabbling, and sour cherry acid reflux. A bit harsh a first, but you get used to it. The carbonation is moderate, the body medium-light, tangy, and smooth as that could be. It finishes tartly fruity, with only a small underlying grain maltiness holding up the beer side of things.
A decent enough venture, done well before, albeit leagues away in Belgium; however, here it just seems forced, unfortunately off-putting, and really just a one-off forgettable semi-indulgence.
11-28-2010 00:37:10 | More by biboergosum
3.13/5 rDev -6.8%
Picked up at the brewery for less than $7
Poured into a wine goblet, a ruddy brownish with a small pink tinged head that quickly dissipates, aroma is slight belgian yeast spice and a sourish cherry cough drop smell,
Tastes follows suit a mild belgian yeast spicyness with subtle maltiness then a whollop of vicks formula 44 cough syrup, not up to what I had hoped, the flavor did mellow somewhat as the beer warmed up.
Perhaps this need to age a little, seems rough and unbalanced right now.
10-01-2010 18:39:20 | More by mudbug
3.73/5 rDev +11%
My first Rogue GYO beer.
Pours a reddish brown with a quickly dissipating beige head. Faint aroma of cherries, not much else. Taste is very subtle - some cherry, a little tartness, and a clean but kind of watery finish.
Not a lot going on here. Mildly pleasant and easy drinking, but leaves me wanting more.
10-24-2010 01:34:35 | More by RockyTopHeel
4/5 rDev +19%
Chatoe Rogue First Growth Creek Ale
I like the play on words - "Chatoe" (not a word) vs. chateau, and "Creek" vs. kriek - and I love what they're doing with their hopyard and barley farm. Will I like the beer?
It smells moderately of cherries. Good. I don't like it over-done. There's just enough there. It only hints at cherry, and if you hadn't read the label you might just think that was yeasty fruitiness.
The same is true of the flavor. There's a bit of cherry, but it's not a lot. Unlike the aroma, however, it is clear. It rises up above the soft, lightly caramelish, wheaty maltiness. It's subtly grassy, but I can't tell if that's from the malt or hops. I find fruit at the front, followed by a rising maltiness, and then they both drop out slowly in the short-lingering finish. Interestingly enough, some clove and spice appear. Hmmm. Double hmmmm. It's a touch malty for the limited 25 BU's, and I find it a little bit out of balance. It's a touch full, but certainly not sticky... the slight tartness of the cherry helps cut through that. So I wonder, would I like it better with a little less malt? Would there be enough left for it to be a Rogue beer? I certainly don't think they should bump the bitterness - that would be a move in the wrong direction. And going more Belgian yeast wouldn't help. Hmmm???
So I'm reminded of a conversation with Michael Jackson about hedonistic tasting versus stylistic tasting, and he said something along the lines of "Well really, it's all hedonistic. But when it's hedonistic as opposed to 'does it fit the style', that's the best way to enjoy a beer". So, not that I was on about style anyway, but, did I enjoy it? - yes. Would I have another? - yes. OK then.
04-28-2011 19:14:17 | More by NeroFiddled
3.55/5 rDev +5.7%
Pours an effervescent & somewhat opaque orange tinged chestnut with a finger of tan head. Good lacing & average head retention
S: Orchard fruit, phenols & a touch of barnyard
T: Earthy with slight raspberry notes, plus black & tart cherries up front, slight iron flavor as well. The cherry flavor really settles as this warms, along with more iron notes (a slight detractor) & a slight tartness. Finishes somewhat tart, with a slight cherry sweetness & a touch of pear
MF: Medium bodied, pretty assertive carbonation that falls off a bit over time
Pretty drinkable, not as complex as I hoped, but still a pretty nice offering, I am liking many of these newer offerings from Rogue...
01-04-2011 04:36:17 | More by russpowell
3.13/5 rDev -6.8%
22 oz bottle into a couple of goblets. I didn’t realize that this one was retired. I’ve had it sitting in the fridge for a while now.
Pours a clear dark ruby, with a finger of rich off-white head. This retains with a smooth foaminess and a rich cascade that hangs spotty swathes of lace down the sides of the glass. The aroma smells of tart cherries, some light earthy hops, a touch of mineral notes and some sweet sugars on the edges.
The taste is cherry flavor, which has a definite bitter pithiness to it that mingle with some light earthy citrus notes and a sweet sugary feel that lingers on the edges. The overall profile here though is mostly about the cherries, which are what linger the most here with a dry and pithy feel on the finish. The mouthfeel is medium bodied, with a soft crispness in the mouth that firms up more the longer it sits on the tongue. This is actually pretty lively feeling overall.
This was interesting. I really don’t think that I would call it a Dubbel but it was at least a decently flavored Cherry Ale that drank well. Unfortunately, nothing really stood about out though besides the cherries. Could be why it isn’t brewed anymore.
09-20-2012 17:05:26 | More by Kegatron
4.05/5 rDev +20.5%
A - slightly hazy copper red, solid tan head retained very well, not much lacing
S - cloves and fruity yeast esters, leafy hops, somewhat musty, with a candied fruit overtone
T - up front it has a very hefe like taste of cloves and fruity yeast, then comes the sweet cherry and somewhat phenolic taste, with some leafy hops and caramel malt in the background
M - well carbonated, syrupy moving to a tangy medicinal feel
T - seemingly a mix of a a few different styles, but it defintely works with the cherry flavour being present but in a nice addition to a solid brew instead of an in your face feature, refreshing and sweet at the same time
01-29-2011 07:11:24 | More by joemcgrath27
4.45/5 rDev +32.4%
Enjoying this beer right now. Pours amberish like natural color of cherry juice with an off white color. Smells of hopps and cherries. Is sort of tart with a hoppy finish. It is veru smooth and easy to drink. I could easily drink a couple of these over an evening.
10-28-2010 01:13:41 | More by hdofu
4.08/5 rDev +21.4%
Poured into a small wine glass from a 22 oz bottle. Small 1/2 finger of head, medium brown/amberish color. Head dies with very little lacing. Smells of Belgian yeast, spice, and tart cherry. Flavor borders on a barrel aged sour. A little bit more mellow than some, but quite impressive given the price. Definitely getting that Belgian Dubbel flavor as well as sour cherry. A light sweetness and a good medium length finish. One of the more impressive Rogue beers I've tried. Mouthfeel is quite fluffy, especially given the lack of head. Quite quaffable.
09-19-2010 22:16:33 | More by WestValleyIPA
3/5 rDev -10.7%
A - ruddy brown color. small offwhite head limps to the top and fades quickly leaving no lacing.
S - cherry is present in the nose but the rest in muddled. Nose real distiguishable hop, malt, or yeast notes.
T - sour notes through and though. Finishes with a bit of cherry. Slightly syrupy with little to no aftertaste.
O - while the GYO is a noble attempt it falls short.
05-19-2011 01:31:52 | More by drcarver
Chatoe Rogue First Growth Creek Ale from Rogue Ales
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