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Chatoe Rogue First Growth Creek Ale - Rogue Ales

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162 Ratings
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Ratings: 162
Reviews: 108
rAvg: 3.34
pDev: 19.16%
Wants: 2
Gots: 8 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
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Oregon, United States

Style | ABV
Dubbel |  6.00% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

Brewed using 8 ingredients: Wheat, Rogue Barley Farm Dare and Risk Malts, Rogue Hopyard Revolution Hops, Montmorency Cherries, Pacman and Belgian Yeast and Free Range Coastal Water.

15º PLATO
25 IBU
77 AA
75º Lovibond

(Beer added by: CampusCrew on 08-21-2010)
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Photo of t0rin0
2/5  rDev -40.1%

Photo of zestar
3/5  rDev -10.2%

Photo of Thorpe429
3.23/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Pours a light copper color with a bit if a reddish huem. Nose is faint, light cherries and a bit of sweet malt. The flavor is mainly comprised of might cherries with mild bread. Thin and slightly sweet with low carbonaion. Drinks okay, but doesn't represent the cherry flavor all that well.

Photo of GRG1313
3/5  rDev -10.2%

Photo of BEERchitect
3.23/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

The home grown beers of Rogue continue with an oddly appealing Belgian style Dubbel Ale with cherries added, that in combination seem as much like prunes as it does cherries.

Pouring a rusty amber color, the beer forms a lightly tanned head, stained from barley malts and while building a creamy head of foam and lace. A medium haze gives a good amount of visual weight. A fairly standard Dubbel look except for the texture of the foam.

Malty and tart aromas seem of brown sugar, sorghum, and with cherries and maybe green apples- a non-descript tartness, really. Farily simplistic, the beer only carries a mild corriander and earthy spice that accompany the fruity tartness in balance.

The odd flavors of Dare and Risk malts provide a base that seems partly of caramelized, plump varieties, void of the grainy confectioner's sugar taste of authentic Belgian varieties. A counterpart of the brown sugar and sorghum brings a lot of heaft in taste, but only moderate in sweetness, seemingly somewhat of Gluten Free sorghum based beers. Cherry flavored tartness helps in balance, but seems to substitute the yeasty spice and estery fruitiness that's exhibited in traditional Dubbels. A very simple flavor spread, except for the distraction of cherry flavor.

Medium-full in body, the early carbonation is tossed aside for the full tartness of cherries, causing acidic bite and astringency on the corners of the mouth in the same vein of grape skins. Light in finish, the beer actually looses its structure and weakens considerable, never allowing for the malty-dry or warming finish that Belgian Ales deserve.

Tasty enough, this Dubbel acheives satisfactory status with a cleaner, less earthy Belgian character while the fruit additions distract from the base beer while adding complexity.

Photo of Phyl21ca
1.68/5  rDev -49.7%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 1 | overall: 1.5

Bottle: Poured a deep cloudy reddish color ale with a large foamy head with average retention and minimal lacing. Aroma consists of cherries with clear cough syrup notes and lightly sweet malt notes. Taste is also dominated by sweet cherries with some definite notes of cough syrup which are not that easily discernable. Body is full with light filtration and good carbonation. I really couldn’t get the cough syrup notes out of my mouth and I finally drain poured the reminder of my glass.

Photo of BuckeyeNation
3.68/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

"Don't taunt the alligator until after you've crossed the creek."

--anonymous

Caramel brown with generous orange accents and a good looking crown of golden brown sugar colored foam. Although the head doesn't possess the usual Rogue excellence, it looks good enough and is doing a more than acceptable job festooning the glass.

The beer smells decently dubbel-like, so points for that. Brown malt and clove spicy yeast occupy the driver's seat, relegating the Montmorency cherries to the back seat. Given this brewery's extremely short and rather unimpressive track record with Belgian-style beer, the nose is a pleasant surprise.

The dubbel and the sour cherries share palate duty 50:50. Neither one impresses on an individual basis, but they work well together if you like this sort of thing. The flavor is oddly muted, however, and isn't intensifying much with warming. Looks like the taste score will be rounded down rather than up.

Specifics flavors include brown bread, an overripe apple and sour cherry fruitiness, and less clove than expected after the sniff test. Rogue should bump the ABV a little, add more malt, use a more estery yeast strain, and jettison the cherries. In other words, they should have concentrated on brewing a kick-ass dubbel... period.

No complaints about the mouthfeel. It's big enough, the bubbles are well-incorporated, and it develops a lightly creamy smoothness over time. Not outstanding for these guys, but enjoyable all the same.

Even though the scores are similar to those for Wet Hop Ale and OREgasmic Ale, Creek Ale is my second favorite of the five offerings in the Chatoe Rogue First Growth Series, behind only Dirtoir Black Lager. Not a bad effort at all, but don't expect the moon and stars if you're a Belgian (and Belgian-style) ale aficionado.

Photo of kylehay2004
3.25/5  rDev -2.7%

Photo of jaydoc
3.25/5  rDev -2.7%

Photo of womencantsail
1.53/5  rDev -54.2%
look: 3 | smell: 1 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 1

A: The pour is an amber color with a thin tan head.

S: The nose is not a good start to this beer. Smells like plastic and urinal cake. Mmm port-o-potty. Also some alcohol, puke, and sulfur. Man, what a winner.

T: A slight improvement on the flavor, but really bad, still. A bit of sweet caramel, cough syrup, a touch of sour cherries, and wood give this some redeeming flavors. But, there's still a lot of puke, alcohol, and plastic.

M: The body is medium with a low to medium carbonation.

D: Oh goodness. This was just awful. In no way would I want to drink this beer again.

Photo of ChainGangGuy
3.6/5  rDev +7.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

22 ounce bottle - $5.99 at Total Wine & More in Kennesaw, Georgia.

Appearance: Pours a murky, admittedly dirty-looking, dark brown body with a medium-sized,

Smell: Sweetish, tart-accented aroma of undertoasted dark bread soaked with a small portion of cherry cordial and sweetened right up with a pinch of dark brown sugar and a touch of caramel. Light clove note. Subtle earthiness underneath. I found the nose to be a bit more well-rounded and pleasing than the taste.

Taste: Initial dark breadiness hinting at thinly sliced pumpernickel given a very light dusting of unsweetened chocolate powder and brown sugar. Fruity taste of cherries, including their tart cherry skins, mingles with the modest sweetness and, for a quick moment, reminds me of a drop or two of that red sweet-n-sour sauce you get down at the local Chinese restaurant joint. Small amount of phenolic spiciness and a light bitterness. Crackle of acidity. As it warms, some caramel comes out though, all in all, there's not that much to it, really. Luden's cherry cough drops on the drying finish.

Mouthfeel: Medium-bodied. Medium-plus carbonation.

Drinkability: Soundly satisfactory. Considering the series, it's no Dirtoir. Overall, it's pretty OK for a fruit-infused Belgian-y brew.

Photo of biboergosum
3.5/5  rDev +4.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Another 22oz 'power to the people', DIYFS from Farmer Rogue.

This beer pours a murky orange-tinted brown, with some anemic floaties, and one finger of foamy off-white head, which leaves some very sparse lace around the glass as it falls away. It smells of ashy, biscuity grain, a slight acidic fruitiness, and earthy hops. The taste is somewhat yeasty, sugary, boozy dubbel-dabbling, and sour cherry acid reflux. A bit harsh a first, but you get used to it. The carbonation is moderate, the body medium-light, tangy, and smooth as that could be. It finishes tartly fruity, with only a small underlying grain maltiness holding up the beer side of things.

A decent enough venture, done well before, albeit leagues away in Belgium; however, here it just seems forced, unfortunately off-putting, and really just a one-off forgettable semi-indulgence.

Photo of NeroFiddled
4/5  rDev +19.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Chatoe Rogue First Growth Creek Ale

I like the play on words - "Chatoe" (not a word) vs. chateau, and "Creek" vs. kriek - and I love what they're doing with their hopyard and barley farm. Will I like the beer?

It smells moderately of cherries. Good. I don't like it over-done. There's just enough there. It only hints at cherry, and if you hadn't read the label you might just think that was yeasty fruitiness.

The same is true of the flavor. There's a bit of cherry, but it's not a lot. Unlike the aroma, however, it is clear. It rises up above the soft, lightly caramelish, wheaty maltiness. It's subtly grassy, but I can't tell if that's from the malt or hops. I find fruit at the front, followed by a rising maltiness, and then they both drop out slowly in the short-lingering finish. Interestingly enough, some clove and spice appear. Hmmm. Double hmmmm. It's a touch malty for the limited 25 BU's, and I find it a little bit out of balance. It's a touch full, but certainly not sticky... the slight tartness of the cherry helps cut through that. So I wonder, would I like it better with a little less malt? Would there be enough left for it to be a Rogue beer? I certainly don't think they should bump the bitterness - that would be a move in the wrong direction. And going more Belgian yeast wouldn't help. Hmmm???

So I'm reminded of a conversation with Michael Jackson about hedonistic tasting versus stylistic tasting, and he said something along the lines of "Well really, it's all hedonistic. But when it's hedonistic as opposed to 'does it fit the style', that's the best way to enjoy a beer". So, not that I was on about style anyway, but, did I enjoy it? - yes. Would I have another? - yes. OK then.

Photo of WVbeergeek
4.33/5  rDev +29.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Deep dark cherry tinted brown body with a hint of tannish pink tinted head forming thick and dwindling even quicker thin speckled lacing surrounds the sides of my glass. Aroma has a tart cherry deep roasted malt combo going on. The tart cherries rule this brew, but especially in the nose. Strong tart cherry nose this doesn't smell like a typical dubbel, and after tasting it I would call it a weak sour ale. Flavor is full on tart cherries with touch of powdered spicy yeast noted and sliced bread. Malts don't bring out much sweetness that can be detected amongst the earthy sour yet sweet Montmorency cherries added. Finishes bone dry with hints of lactic acid, quite enjoyable even seems like there's a hint of oak barrel aging. I'm not sure if this one has that going for it but with the malts and the cherries I'm getting that vibe. Mouthfeel is medium bodied evenly carbonated nothing cloying on the palate, leaves me feeling good. I like the tart/sour drying finish between each sip, burps send alcohol and a fruit tartness up your nares that just makes me like the beer that much more. Overall drinkability I'm in cruise control, this one satisfies me in a couple ways cherry fruit/tartness/hints of bitter slightly spiced yeast components and gives me the vibe that it's been barrel aged whether or not it has I don't really care. I like the overall experience.

Photo of nickfl
3.88/5  rDev +16.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Pours with one finger of light brown foam on top of a hazy, dark brown body. The foam settles rapidly and leaves only minor lace.

S - Toasty brown malt aromas with a little bit of caramel. Some light fruit juice notes and spicy hops in the background.

T - Creamy malt notes with some light toffee and caramel. The cherry notes come out in the middle with a lightly sweet fruit character that works well with the malt. The fruit character continues through the finish with sweet caramel and a bit of brown sugar.

M - Medium body, moderate carbonation, and a slightly sweet finish.

D - This is not a particularly complex or interesting beer, but for some reason it is extremely drinkable. Something about the way that the light cherry flavor interacts with the caramel and toffee malt flavors makes the beer extremely quaffable.

Photo of Kegatron
3.13/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

22 oz bottle into a couple of goblets. I didn’t realize that this one was retired. I’ve had it sitting in the fridge for a while now.

Pours a clear dark ruby, with a finger of rich off-white head. This retains with a smooth foaminess and a rich cascade that hangs spotty swathes of lace down the sides of the glass. The aroma smells of tart cherries, some light earthy hops, a touch of mineral notes and some sweet sugars on the edges.

The taste is cherry flavor, which has a definite bitter pithiness to it that mingle with some light earthy citrus notes and a sweet sugary feel that lingers on the edges. The overall profile here though is mostly about the cherries, which are what linger the most here with a dry and pithy feel on the finish. The mouthfeel is medium bodied, with a soft crispness in the mouth that firms up more the longer it sits on the tongue. This is actually pretty lively feeling overall.

This was interesting. I really don’t think that I would call it a Dubbel but it was at least a decently flavored Cherry Ale that drank well. Unfortunately, nothing really stood about out though besides the cherries. Could be why it isn’t brewed anymore.

Photo of russpowell
3.55/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Pours an effervescent & somewhat opaque orange tinged chestnut with a finger of tan head. Good lacing & average head retention

S: Orchard fruit, phenols & a touch of barnyard

T: Earthy with slight raspberry notes, plus black & tart cherries up front, slight iron flavor as well. The cherry flavor really settles as this warms, along with more iron notes (a slight detractor) & a slight tartness. Finishes somewhat tart, with a slight cherry sweetness & a touch of pear

MF: Medium bodied, pretty assertive carbonation that falls off a bit over time

Pretty drinkable, not as complex as I hoped, but still a pretty nice offering, I am liking many of these newer offerings from Rogue...

Photo of drabmuh
3.48/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Shared by the other Matt recently in his pad. Thanks! Beer is brownish reddish hazy with a lazy head and moderate carbonation.

Beer smells sweet with a mild cherry fruit flavor, mild yeast character, bready.

Beer is sweet and minor fruit; wet beer on the finish. The overall beer is fine but plain and drinkable. We dank the whole thing but I doubt I'd have it again.

Photo of mactrail
2.65/5  rDev -20.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

Disturbing murky taste at first sip. Flat flavor with a touch of canned plums. Pours a cloudy brownish amber in the wine glass, though it has nice lacing. Maybe they had something in mind when they made this, but it's more of a stew than a style. Reminds me of old, oxidized Cold Duck champagne. Somehow manages to be both insipid and overly acidic. Metallic aftertaste.

Bought this out of the cooler at Rogue taproom in San Francisco.

Photo of WesWes
3.6/5  rDev +7.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

The beer pours a cloudy dark amber/red color with a 1/2" white head that fades to lacing. The aroma is decent. It has a light and fruity scent that boasts of crystal malts and cherries along with a mild Belgian yeast character. The taste is decent as well. It has a smooth, crystal malt sweetness that goes down easy with a moderate Belgian yeast fruitiness. The addition of cherries elevates the taste and compliments the yeast esters. The mouthfeel is fine. It is a medium bodied beer with adequate carbonation. This is a good drinking beer, although it falls short for the Dubbel style.

Photo of Mora2000
3.68/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to barzigkin for sharing this bottle.

The beer pours a reddish-amber color with a white head. The aroma is heavy on the toffee and cherries, but other than that, I don't get anything.

The flavor is more of the same. I get a lot of cherries, roasted malt and chocolate. Fairly straightforward, but still drinkable and enjoyable.

Medium mouthfeel and medium carbonation.

Glad I got to try this one.

Photo of wrightst
3.5/5  rDev +4.8%

Photo of woodychandler
4.43/5  rDev +32.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

More proof that I may be aging at a faster rate than my 46+ calendar years might suggest - I nap in the afternoon and am awake at odd hours, much like my grandfathers. At least I can have a beer at this hour (0411, Local, EDT) without the worry/guilt of going into school later. Frankly, I hate to go in to school in any state other than sober as it is an inter-urban environment and the b.s. just intensifies if I am hung over.

I am setting myself up for a marathon of beer this weekend, drinking some room in my refrigerator and enjoying myself all the while. This will segue into some Sam Smith's fruit beers later.

From the bottle: "Dedicated to Farmers and Fermenters"; "GYO is a Rogue Ales term for Grow Your Own, We made this ale with our own hops and barley."; "Malty aroma, dark mahogany brown in color with a dense creamy head. Medium bodied with a rich, malty sweetness and dry cherry finish." They also include the Lat & Long for their Hopyard and Barley Farm. Har!

My intent was to not stir up any extant lees, so my gentle pour created only deep-tan wisps. Mahogany brown, eh? Good to know! Accompanied by NE-quality clarity and ruby highlights. Nose was rich with a dried dark fruit sweetness. Usually, I can recognize Rogue beers by their scent, but not in this case. I was reminded of cherry preserves, frankly. Mouthfeel was medium with a veddy dry tartness on the tongue. When I say dry, I am talking alum or desiccant territory! Man, this was drinking like some of my uncle's better cherry wines from ~ 20 years ago. Finish evinced some banana esters, no doubt the Belgian yeast poking through. Great gooddam, but this was goood! I would have this with Easter ham or on a picnic with ham sammiches. It was not sour, but more tart and dry, aligned with what I would expect from Montmorency cherries.

Photo of weeare138
3.28/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Appears a red toned amber with a small white head that quickly fades into a small cap. Spotty bits of lacing are left around the glass.
Smell is caramel, tart cherries, freshly baked bread, and a dash of cocoa powder.
Taste is of the aromas with a pronunced cherry flavor that takes over with a sweet tart candy flavor in there.
Mouthfeel is medium bodied, sweet, mildly tart in the finish, semi-dry.

Photo of superspak
3.48/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

22 ounce bottle into signature pint glass, no bottle dating. Pours hazy reddish brown color with a 1 finger dense off white head with good retention, that reduces to a thin cap that lingers. Light soapy lacing clings down the glass. Aromas of caramel, raisin, cherry, cherry skin, toast, toffee, dark bread, brown sugar, earth, and light herbal hops. Nice and pleasant aromas with good strength and balance of malty notes; decent complexity. Taste of cherry, raisin, cherry skin, fig, caramel, toast, brown sugar, dark bread, herbal, and lightly earthy yeast esters. Some light earthy fruit tartness on the finish; with lingering notes of cherry, raisin, fig, caramel, toast, brown sugar, dark bread, herbal, and earthiness on the finish for a bit. Very solid balance of malty and fruity flavors; with minimal cloying flavors present after the finish. Light-medium carbonation and medium bodied; with a slick and fairly syrupy mouthfeel that is ok. Alcohol is well hidden with only a small warming noticed after the finish. Overall this is a very solid Belgian style fruit beer. Good flavor balance of dark maltiness and fruits with decent complexity; and quite smooth to drink. A fairly enjoyable offering.

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Chatoe Rogue First Growth Creek Ale from Rogue Ales
77 out of 100 based on 162 ratings.