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Chatoe Rogue First Growth Creek Ale - Rogue Ales

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Chatoe Rogue First Growth Creek AleChatoe Rogue First Growth Creek Ale

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BA SCORE
77
okay

157 Ratings
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Ratings: 157
Reviews: 108
rAvg: 3.36
pDev: 18.75%
Wants: 2
Gots: 8 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Rogue Ales visit their website
Oregon, United States

Style | ABV
Dubbel |  6.00% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

Brewed using 8 ingredients: Wheat, Rogue Barley Farm Dare and Risk Malts, Rogue Hopyard Revolution Hops, Montmorency Cherries, Pacman and Belgian Yeast and Free Range Coastal Water.

15º PLATO
25 IBU
77 AA
75º Lovibond

(Beer added by: CampusCrew on 08-21-2010)
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Photo of lilnicky068
3.5/5  rDev +4.2%

lilnicky068, Jan 27, 2012
Photo of avalon07
3.58/5  rDev +6.5%

A: Poured from a bottle to a snifter. Had a brown color and a cloudy consistency. There was an inch of creamy, fairly long-lasting head. Not much lacing.

S: Smelled of cherries, but not a whole lot else. A little one-dimensional.

T: Like the aroma, the taste was dominated by cherries, but it also had some malt and yeast as well. A little thin, especially in the finish. Not a terrible flavor, but seems a bit slapdash.

M: A good amount of carbonation with a smooth finish. Medium-bodied.

O: I don't know if I'd call this beer a Dubbel - it seems more like a fruit beer to me. No matter what you call it, it seems very uneven.

avalon07, Jan 27, 2012
Photo of rogueleonardi
4.5/5  rDev +33.9%

rogueleonardi, Jan 10, 2012
Photo of towlea25
3.5/5  rDev +4.2%

towlea25, Jan 07, 2012
Photo of Telestic
3.5/5  rDev +4.2%

Telestic, Jan 03, 2012
Photo of NvMyBeer
1.5/5  rDev -55.4%

NvMyBeer, Dec 23, 2011
Photo of TasteTester
3/5  rDev -10.7%

TasteTester, Dec 17, 2011
Photo of tbeq00
4/5  rDev +19%

tbeq00, Dec 12, 2011
Photo of mhenson42
4/5  rDev +19%

mhenson42, Dec 03, 2011
Photo of Beertracker
4/5  rDev +19%

Beertracker, Dec 01, 2011
Photo of tlazaroff
2.93/5  rDev -12.8%

A: Pours out a murky brown color with an almost-white head. Not all that much to look at.

S: A lot of sweetness coming off on the nose on this beer: caramel, and maraschino cherries. I get no hops on the nose at all.

T: I get some puckering effect from the tartness of the cherries which tells me, though, that this beer isn't sweet. There is nothing wrong with this beer, I just don't care for it. Rogue lists it on their website as a Pale Ale, BA lists it as a Dubbel - it is neither. It's identity is lost somewhere.

M: Big carbonation and a medium body.

D: It's quite drinkable, however, put everything together and it's just not a good beer for me.

tlazaroff, Dec 01, 2011
Photo of brandoman63
4/5  rDev +19%

brandoman63, Nov 29, 2011
Photo of schnarr84
4/5  rDev +19%

schnarr84, Nov 27, 2011
Photo of StaveHooks
2.48/5  rDev -26.2%

A - Rusty brown body with an off-white head.

S - Tart cherries, brown sugar, raisins.

T - Acidic and tart cherries up front. Some burnt brown sugar, raisins, hints of caramel malt. Finishes semi dry. Aftertaste is like cherry NyQuil.

M - Moderate fizzy carbonation, thin body.

The tart cherry flavor is the only thing going for this beer. It just falls flat and halfway through I had no desire to continue.

StaveHooks, Nov 24, 2011
Photo of bob727
4/5  rDev +19%

bob727, Nov 22, 2011
Photo of litheum94
3.88/5  rDev +15.5%

22 oz bottle. No dates.

Weirdly colored body, not quite red, not quite brown. The bottle says mahogany, so we'll go with that. Looks like brackish water. 2 finger tan head that fizzles out to a faint cover.

Black cherry sweetness with a slight medicinal essence. It reminds me of a Luden's cough drop. Not getting much more than the cherries.

Dry and malty. Very grainy. Cooked cherries, more sweet than tart, but just right. Some earthy yeast tones give this a doughy, cherry pie feeling.

Fairly one dimensional, but still a nice beer. Good cherry flavors.

litheum94, Nov 20, 2011
Photo of ckollias
3.9/5  rDev +16.1%

Enjoyed this 22oz bottle out of a large snifter glass.

A: Very hazy brown-amber hue with a thin ½-finger head that quickly dissipates leaving only a trace of a trail on the glass and ending in a wispy lace.

S: Sweet malty aroma with hints of cherries and fruits.

T: Starts out very sweet ale with solid malt background. Cherries and dark fruits dominate the palate with every sip, but aren’t overwhelming like a lambic brew.

M: Medium body and minimal carbonation

O: Interesting brew – surprised to find out it was discontinued since my looking beer store had three or four of these left. My wife wanted to try it and we both rather enjoyed it – although I think she was looking for more of a fruity beer. I like the way the cherries were blended in nicely for enjoyable brew.

ckollias, Nov 06, 2011
Photo of mrfrancis
2.78/5  rDev -17.3%

A: Pours a dark fuchsia with a creamy beige head. The color is definitely eye-catching. Very interesting.

S: Faint aromas of bread, yeast, tart cherries, and nutty malt. The nose is a bit underwhelming. I was hoping for a bit more cohesion.

T: Opens tart and fruity with notes of tart cherry skin, heavy cream, almonds, nougat, yeast, and grassy, herbal hops. The finish is slight with fleeting notes of tart cherries and herbal hops.

M: Oily in the mouth and it never seems to dry out. Much lighter in body than I would have liked it to be.

O: This one simply does not do a thing for me. I don't know where Rogue was going with this one.

mrfrancis, Oct 11, 2011
Photo of rhoadsrage
3.58/5  rDev +6.5%

(Served in a chalice)

A- This beer pours a dense brown body with a glowing dark cherry glow at the base of the glass. There is a lumpy beige head that is supported by a slow motion carbonation of microbubbles.

S- The nose has a touch of dark cherries with some dark jammy notes in the finish. The nose gets a bit stronger as the beer opens but not much depth.

T- The dry tart cherries taste cooked like pie filling with some green unripe fruit notes underneath. There is a doughy pie crust note with a hint of malt in the finish.

M- This beer has a medium mouthfeel with no alcohol heat noticed.

O- This beer does have some full cherry flavors but they are a bit one dimensional and taste more cooked than fresh. There wasn't really any malt to support the fruit flavor.

rhoadsrage, Sep 27, 2011
Photo of GrumpyJunglist
4/5  rDev +19%

A: Poured out a muddy brown color. Mild head from the poor that disappears very quickly. The head was a off white color which was gone within 10/15 seconds.

S: Aromas of bread and biscuit, with some major tones of carame. There is a faint scent of cherry at the end.

T: Flavors of up front citrus and cherries, followed up by some bread and caramel.

M: Fair amount of carbonation, very smooth i thought.

O: I dig this, it is essentially a nice creaminess with some sour cherry aspects.

GrumpyJunglist, Sep 17, 2011
Photo of DCon
4.88/5  rDev +45.2%

Bought a 1 PT. 6 FL.OZ. bottle @ Adam Fine Wine & Liquor in Redondo Beach, CA for $14.99 and shared w/ GeoffTheAleMan. Poured from the what looks like Grape infused bottle but clearly states Cherries on the front of the bottle, into a Samuel Adams Imperial Pint Glass. Does not have a freshness date.

Aroma- Complexed as hell! Has a strong cherry aroma that is prominent but then the high fruitness/malt aroma is strong as well. Very complexed!

Appearance- Pours a 2 finger head that is off-white and last for good time. Dark amber body and looks like the body is full of ingredient. Has nice sudsy, thick lacing.

Flavor- Very pure! Not sure I've ever tasted a higher malted beer like this! Tons of cherries and has the wine attributes. Well balanced too.

Mouthfeel- Medium-Full Body, Medium-High Carbonation, Has more strength, power, and intensity then anything I've ever had! My mouth cannot even take everything happening! Leaves tons of sweetness in the mouth afterwards. Can't get any better than this!

Overall Impression- I can't believe whats happening in this brew! Starts like a cool, red wine and then hits with the most interesting, rarest mouthfeel that I've ever experience. I'm very happy that I buy brews when I'm in different states that look rare or limited while I don't know if they're rated good or not. I am going to be looking to trade for this beer even! A+ I Recommend for ANYONE! Your next beer to buy in OR/CA.

DCon, Sep 07, 2011
Photo of mactrail
2.65/5  rDev -21.1%

Disturbing murky taste at first sip. Flat flavor with a touch of canned plums. Pours a cloudy brownish amber in the wine glass, though it has nice lacing. Maybe they had something in mind when they made this, but it's more of a stew than a style. Reminds me of old, oxidized Cold Duck champagne. Somehow manages to be both insipid and overly acidic. Metallic aftertaste.

Bought this out of the cooler at Rogue taproom in San Francisco.

mactrail, Aug 31, 2011
Photo of jsled
2.5/5  rDev -25.6%

P: 2/5. Boysenberry purple. Dark. Very cloudy. Nearly opaque. No head.

A: 3/5. Deep stone fruit. Cherries. Fig. Caramel. No hop aroma.

F: 5/10. Initially tart, but quickly goes away. Cherry, caramel. Some bitterness.

M: 2/5. Medium body. Some lingering, but not overwhelming. Pleasant cherry aftertaste.

O: 4/10. Okay. Not great, but fine.

jsled, Aug 20, 2011
Photo of Rhettroactive
2.38/5  rDev -29.2%

From 22oz bomber to Jackie's O's tulip on 7/14/11
*From notes

A: Lovely presentation. Unfiltered pinkish-red radish in color, with a touch of warm amber at the edges. Solid 2.75 finger head on a good pour. The head dies quite quickly, leaving just a bit of lacing.

S: Medicinal, processed prune juice. As it warms, it's got a stagnant metallic quality to it that's extremely off-putting.

T: The taste is a touch better then the nose, but it sure isn't gonna win Rogue any awards. Cloyingly acicic, with an odd and salty rotting red fruit flavor. Mild malt hits the mid. The backbone of this beer should be the concentration of fruit, but instead they seem to have bastardized it, as it's flimsy and thin. Dissapointing.

M: Really? We're calling this a Dubbel? EPIC FAIL. It's all soft carbonation up front and awkwardly oily and sinfully thin on the back of the palate.

D: Rogue's Chatoe Rogue First Frowth Creek Ale is yet another dissapointment from the crew at Rogue. To call it a Dubbel is insulting to real, well produced Dubbels like St. Bernardus Prior 8 and Westmalle's Dubbel.

In the future I'll most certainly be avoiding this, and I heartily recommend that you do the same.

Rhettroactive, Aug 07, 2011
Photo of BEERchitect
3.23/5  rDev -3.9%

The home grown beers of Rogue continue with an oddly appealing Belgian style Dubbel Ale with cherries added, that in combination seem as much like prunes as it does cherries.

Pouring a rusty amber color, the beer forms a lightly tanned head, stained from barley malts and while building a creamy head of foam and lace. A medium haze gives a good amount of visual weight. A fairly standard Dubbel look except for the texture of the foam.

Malty and tart aromas seem of brown sugar, sorghum, and with cherries and maybe green apples- a non-descript tartness, really. Farily simplistic, the beer only carries a mild corriander and earthy spice that accompany the fruity tartness in balance.

The odd flavors of Dare and Risk malts provide a base that seems partly of caramelized, plump varieties, void of the grainy confectioner's sugar taste of authentic Belgian varieties. A counterpart of the brown sugar and sorghum brings a lot of heaft in taste, but only moderate in sweetness, seemingly somewhat of Gluten Free sorghum based beers. Cherry flavored tartness helps in balance, but seems to substitute the yeasty spice and estery fruitiness that's exhibited in traditional Dubbels. A very simple flavor spread, except for the distraction of cherry flavor.

Medium-full in body, the early carbonation is tossed aside for the full tartness of cherries, causing acidic bite and astringency on the corners of the mouth in the same vein of grape skins. Light in finish, the beer actually looses its structure and weakens considerable, never allowing for the malty-dry or warming finish that Belgian Ales deserve.

Tasty enough, this Dubbel acheives satisfactory status with a cleaner, less earthy Belgian character while the fruit additions distract from the base beer while adding complexity.

BEERchitect, Jul 21, 2011
Chatoe Rogue First Growth Creek Ale from Rogue Ales
77 out of 100 based on 157 ratings.